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12:08 AM
Is it okay for an answer to generate error messages during normal operation?
 
i don't remember if there's an official rule on that, but I think it's okay.
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A: Should submissions be allowed to exit with an error?

Martin EnderThere are a few different issues and cases to be considered here. I think most of what I wrote below is based on the unwritten rules we're currently applying (as far as I'm aware of them). But a few things are also my own opinion, so let the votes show what you think. Ignoring STDERR As far as ...

 
Perfect, thanks!
 
That moment when you walk by two kids on their tablets in a shopping mall and one of them starts shouting "I CAUGHT IT I CAUGHT IT QUICK WHAT'S ITS LEVEL" at the top of their lungs
 
o_o -_- (blergh)
 
12:16 AM
@quartata any suggestions for resources for learning TI-ASM?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Well it's a Z80 so just go find yourself a manual on that
I doubt there's very many other special things on top of that
 
yeppers
 
coolio, thanks!
I have expression compiling down, I just need to figure out what they compile to.
 
Pretty much all microprocessors will have manuals like that. Very handy
 
12:19 AM
will I be able to use TI-84's math functions?
or should I just shut up and read
 
I dunno.
 
Usually when you want to call a C function from assembly you push the parameters on to the stack and jump to it, but I don't know how it works here.
You're probably a bit of a trailblazer :P Anyways, if you can figure out how the inline assembly works here that'll help
Usually they have things that let you get the value of a register after its executed or something
 
do I need any prior knowledge on assembly?
 
Depends on how good the manual is
 
12:21 AM
alright
 
It'll probably explain most of it
 
thanks a lot!
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You able to/already released it yet?
 
@LegionMammal978 oh shoot brb releasing
what should it be called
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What does it do, exactly?
 
12:29 AM
@LegionMammal978 it's a language geared towards drawing
on svg's
 
._.
I can't think of anything off the top of my head
 
Easel?
 
not a bad idea
 
Easel it is
erm
it's currently es6 only
 
12:35 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ GOOD ENOUGH JUST GIMME DA CODEZZZ
 
I just named a langauge eacal that's completely unrelated
easal
eacal
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ When I saw it I thought it was your SVG language at first
 
should I still go for it?
 
12:36 AM
because I misread eacal as easal
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ea5al might work, but it just sounds/looks strange
 
hrm
how about "mount"?
 
How about "Unnameable"
 
but then it would be a contradiction :p
 
12:39 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ mount /dev/sda0 out.svg # should write to out.svg
 
@LegionMammal978 it's a web thing
not command line
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ik
 
@LegionMammal978 i don't even want to scroll up to find context for that
 
@HelkaHomba Totally agree!
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It up yet?
 
12:49 AM
@LegionMammal978 I haven't decided on a name yet
 
1:13 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ well if it's a web thing just use the established naming scheme: take a verb and add an "r" to the end
2
don't forget the .io
 
paintr.io
i mean the domain's taken but it's just a 404 page lmao
 
1:41 AM
0
Q: Write a basic REPL (command interpreter)

Dmitry KudriavtsevChallenge Write a REPL (command interpreter). This is similar to a shell, and allows executing commands in scripting languages. REPL stands for Read-Eval-Print-Loop. Here is an example session in Ruby: > puts "Hello" Hello > 5.times { |i| puts i } 0 1 2 3 4 > You do NOT have to print a prom...

 
In a language where block-scope variables need a modifier (like Perl's my), will something like this need to be supported:
 
Like what?
 
my $x = 3;<enter>
print $x
In other words can each expression have its own scope
 
Um. Do you have a Ruby interpreter?
 
1:50 AM
Yes, of course.
 
Try running the program loop{puts eval gets}
That's my reference implementation
 
That wouldn't support what I'm suggesting for instance
irb(main):001:0> loop{puts eval gets}
a = 3;
3
print a
NameError: undefined local variable or method `a' for main:Object
	from (irb):1:in `eval'
	from (irb):1:in `eval'
	from (irb):1:in `block in irb_binding'
	from (irb):1:in `loop'
	from (irb):1
	from /usr/bin/irb:12:in `<main>'
Since a exits scope
 
@Downgoat this is adorable
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev I'd personally suggest posting your challenge in our sandbox first so that the community can help you iron out the details. While I'm fairly certain I can know what you have in mind for a Python 2 submission, I can only guess for Jelly or brainfuck.
 
@Dennis A brainfuck interpreter has been writtern in brainfuck... Just enclose it in a loop
 
1:54 AM
That'll leave things on the tape
 
I don't know, there's definitely a way. Brainfuck is turing complete
 
His point is that it's tough to make a spec that covers all of a language's quirks in this case
 
i hate captchas
i always fail them
and i'm not even a bot like Geobits
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev Brainfuck doesn't work like Ruby in the sense that all commands modify the tape rather than accepting arguments and returning results. How would this be represented in a REPL?
 
I honestly don't know, scratch that idea. This challenge would be as infeasible in Brainfuck as in something like C++
Although I could probably write a basic C++ JIT compilation REPL thingy
 
1:59 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ hahaha this edit suggestion: codegolf.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/31893
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I've never understood why people like to use those small caps characters in their usernames
 
^ +1 :P
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev sorry
but seriously, people need to check the actual name first. >_>
i mean it was even linked
 
2:12 AM
i literally was the one who posted that in here earlier
@PhiNotPi >_> yes? :P
 
oh, nevermind
I feel like I saw somewhere on reddit or something.
shrugs (edit: yeah I think it was your link I actually clicked)
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ikr
 
Are there words that end in a non-y consonant with y as the last of multiple vowels?
like "hymn" but with a vowel before the y
 
2:25 AM
"Analyze" doesn't count since it ends with a vowel?
 
right
 
Oh wait, "analysis".
 
though close
@El'endiaStarman y is not the last vowel
 
Oh right. Hmm.
Lymphocyst?
 
er, ok
not a very common word :P
 
2:29 AM
Haha, no it's not.
 
I was assuming you were requiring that the vowels be in a row.
 
Since "ou" and "ai" and "ea" etc. are very common but less so with "ay" with the y being a vowel.
 
There's things like "Sally's" but that's borderline
 
Oh lookie what we have here... visca.com/regexdict
 
2:30 AM
"like "hymn" but with a vowel before the y" you were't really specific enough with that example
 
Like antonym?
 
If I have a programming language that consists of strings of continuous ones and zeros, can I count each 1 and 0 as a bit (and so a group of 8 characters as a byte)?
 
@NinjaBearMonkey Yes!
 
always encrypt martyr...
 
@DestructibleWatermelon Yes. Accordingly, a string of 11 bits would be 1.375 bytes.
 
2:32 AM
well done
 
Using the pattern [aeiou].*y[^aeiouy]+$ on El'endia's link
 
@DestructibleWatermelon Idk, we might fuss at you. You could map ascii bytes to groups of 8 bits and have nearly the same language after a trivial translation
 
user214599
Uhh IDK why but my recent questions have all been too good for me
 
user214599
http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/85619/hashtag-or-not -> mine, 20 likes
http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/84735/golf-to-find-boring-numbers -> mine, 20 likes
 
user214599
 
2:36 AM
@HelkaHomba, I was thinking about an extension of stackylogic. Perhaps TC
 
also somehow we all missed the obvious word ways
 
@DestructibleWatermelon And days.
 
@DestructibleWatermelon A language like that will never be able to compete with golfing langs anyway, so I wouldn't worry about byte counts
 
hi everyone
 
user214599
2:38 AM
uhh hellllo?
 
user214599
oh ur back leaky
 
user214599
:3
 
7 mins ago, by Helka Homba
There's things like "Sally's" but that's borderline
 
I didn't mean for it to compete with golfing langs, but more about competeing with regular ones
 
@MatthewRoh hi
 
2:39 AM
trays
plays
 
@MatthewRoh Are you going to answer our questions?
 
user214599
@Leaky What question?
 
i removed all the possessives
 
2:39 AM
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Q: Bring ASCII art to the 3rd dimension

Matthew RohIn this challenge, You have to bring ASCII art (which are usually 2D) to 3D! How? like this, X X DD X D D X X DD to... X X DD X X DD D X X DDDD X XDDD X X DD Then How do we do that? Given the ascii art and N, repeat this N times. for every character (we will call this A): let B b...

 
user214599
sure, what do you want to question me for it?
 
user214599
(btw im makin a challeng naw)
 
@MatthewRoh just answer all the questions we posted in the comments
@MatthewRoh nice
 
maybe I would huffman code the binary...
 
@DestructibleWatermelon what are you referring to?
 
user214599
2:45 AM
@Leak what do you mean by "Can I take the second input one higher?"
 
@MatthewRoh in my previous approach it would be shorter to have "###\n###",2 instead of "###\n###",1
but I don't need it now
 
user214599
oh good
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you there?
question: String:substring :: Array:?
 
user214599
feo6umo(]
 
Subarray?
Or sublist.
 
user214599
2:51 AM
@Down (downgoat upside down) feo6umo(]
 
@El'endiaStarman I'm wanna know for the name of the function to split an array from index A to B. [1,2,3].subarray(2,3) just doesn't sound right
 
@Downgoat Oh, slice?
 
user214599
Oh guys I now have 499 rep only one left for another privilege XD
 
@El'endiaStarman yeah that's what I was going for but I'm using substring for strings and i want it do be consistent and i dont like string.slice
 
@MatthewRoh here
 
2:57 AM
@MatthewRoh nice. I'm 5000 rep away ;___;
 
user214599
oh
 
wait nvm i have all privledges
 
@Downgoat Uhhhh....subseq or subsequence?
 
subseq is hard to type >_>
 
You can't develop only for goats with hooves, ya know...
 
user214599
2:58 AM
@Downgoat do you mean -5000 rep away?
 
@El'endiaStarman ;_;
 
user214599
@Downgoat I'm gonna make a programming language for goats lol
 
@MatthewRoh :D \o/
 
user214599
You can just use speech to text to program
 
@MatthewRoh here lemme try it:
 
3:09 AM
@MatthewRoh I'm not sure if that would be more or less accurate.
 
user214599
because all the commands will be ba, baa, baaa, etc
 
bleeeeeeeeeeeet bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet bleet
 
user214599
lol
 
@MatthewRoh WAT
THAT IS SHEEP
HOW DARE YOU
 
3:09 AM
^^
 
user214599
uhh
 
HOW DARE YOU COMPARE SHEEP TO GOATS
 
THAT'S LIKE COMPARING PYTHON TO CHEDDAR
 
3:10 AM
@Downgoat Error: Illegal syntax at 1:1
 
IT'S BLASPHEMY
 
>_> when you want to caret with emphasis but you can't do ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Yeah, Python > Cheddar and Sheep > Goats, obviously.
 
@Downgoat I don't think it's working
 
@El'endiaStarman wat. there is so much wrong with that
 
3:10 AM
@El'endiaStarman ...
Q______Q
 
@El'endiaStarman Y U DO DIS.
 
> like sheep to the slaughter
 
user214599
@Downgoat species.Sheep = Get_ancestor(species.Goat);
 
Y U SO MAEN TO GAOT
 
3:11 AM
> like goats dressed for war to the slaughter of unbelievers
 
vrey offensive 0/10
@El'endiaStarman brb flagging as offensive
 
@Dennis Feature request: debug (prints whole tape)
@LeakyNun What?
 
user214599
not gr8 m8 i r8 -88888888888/8
 
@LeakyNun lel the self reply
 
user214599
@MatthewRoh lel
 
3:13 AM
Alright, enough with the crazy eights.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ lol
 
@MatthewRoh ಠ_ಠ
 
@El'endiaStarman eights aren't crazy this is crazy
 
@LeakyNun ಥ_ಥ
@MatthewRoh @LeakyNun can you quit it please?
 
user214599
@Eᴀs ok
 
3:14 AM
that doesn't ping me btw, you need at least 3 characters
@Eᴀs does though.
 
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@LeakyNun -1 for unoriginal joke
 
8 hours ago, by Downgoat
:/ Leaky Nun just sounds too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Downgoat -1 for personal attack
 
Now I want to make an interestingness graph to accompany an activity graph...
 
@LeakyNun that wasn't really a personal attack
 
3:16 AM
@LeakyNun That's not the first time someone has said that
 
@MatthewRoh seriously, stop it now. I'm flagging next time.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ i was joking
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ what did he do?
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ lol
 
user214599
@LeakyNun -1 for personal attacking a personal attack
 
@LeakyNun he's deleting every message he says, for the most part
@El'endiaStarman is viewing deleted messages a mod power only, or can they share a link?
with non-mods
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Viewing deleted messages is mod-only.
 
@LeakyNun Do you mean as an instruction or a command-line flag? Instruction would be tricky.
 
i don't care, just wondering how it works
 
@Dennis eh, as you like lol
 
But if it's a flag, at which point should it print the tape?
 
@Dennis every
 
3:21 AM
OK, that makes it easier.
 
@HelkaHomba Can I have your permission to create an extension of stackylogic?
 
@Dennis because I'm still having a hard time debugging by head
 
@DestructibleWatermelon Yes
 
Calling all CJam-ers, in your opinion, which would be more useful: having N and S default to '\n and ' , or having them default to "\n" and ' '? I am currently re-writing Convex in Python and I want to see if switching them to chars is a better idea.
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ halpm wat is happening:
cheddar> var sqrt = 4
Runtime Error: `VariableToken
 ├'sqrt'` is a reserved keyword
 
3:26 AM
@Downgoat that means sqrt is still an operator
or still in the reserved word list
 
@Downgoat Oooh, did you implement a tree printing function?
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I mean what is up with:
VariableToken
 ├
 
@Downgoat crap
brb, fixing
 
@El'endiaStarman @MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ did all of it. though it's not supposed to be printing a tree here :|
 
@Downgoat i overrode tostring, need to change it to amother method
 
3:28 AM
maybe fromCST?
 
@Downgoat yeah (btw where is the c9 now?)
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ ide.c9.io/vihanb/cheddar1
idk what happened to the old C9, it borked
 
@LeakyNun Yeah, debugging BF (and, by extension, Sesos) can be a royal pain. A debugger should be even more useful for Sesos, since there are fewer commands to achieve the same task.
 
@Dennis what does "royal" mean there?
English is not my first language
 
@LeakyNun big pain
 
3:31 AM
@LeakyNun ...I'm not entirely sure how it came to be that way, but it's an intensifier. "royal pain in the neck" and "big pain in the neck" are basically the same.
 
@El'endiaStarman I see
 
First time I've read that phrase with neck.
 
1
Q: low pass filter

helloworld922The goal of this challenge is to implement a digital low-pass filter. You are free to implement any type of digital filter you want, however whatever results produced must pass the validation script below. Here's a general description of what the validation script expects: When an FFT is take...

 
@Dennis For what it's worth, "pain in the neck" and "pain in the butt" are the two variations I've seen.
 
@Dennis \o/
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A: Divisibility test

Leaky NunSesos, 16 bytes Hexdump: 0000000: d6659c af71e7 a0fbf8 70cedc ae8de7 1e .e..q....p...... Try it online! Assembler: set numin set numout get,fwd 1,get,rwd 1 jmp fwd 1,sub 1,fwd 1,add 1,rwd 1 jmp fwd 2 jnz fwd 1 jmp sub 1,rwd 1,add 1,fwd 1 jnz rwd 3 jmp ...

 
3:35 AM
@El'endiaStarman I hadn't read it with butt either. Probably because all contact I have with the English language is either TV or the Internet.
 
@Dennis What's your first language?
 
@LeakyNun Nice!
 
@Dennis I'm sure it can be shorter
the prime algorithm has been golfed twice already
 
That multiple commands per line syntax sure makes things more readable.
@LeakyNun Technically German, but I talk in Spanish 99% of the time.
 
@Dennis por que?
 
3:38 AM
Porque vivo en América del Sur.
 
\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ signals/breaks in Cheddar work!!!
cheddar> for (i = 0; i < 5; i += 1) { print i; if (i > 2) { break } }
0
1
2
3
 
You got it to break and you're happy?
 
@Dennis y naciste en alemania?
 
@Downgoat Next feature: fix.
 
3:40 AM
@LeakyNun Sí, me mudé aquí cuando tenía 17 años.
 
@Dennis yes, breaking it up means I can eat it. You don't think goats eat tin cans whole do you?
 
I've certainly seen them try.
 
user214599
ok
 
._.
 
@Dennis interesante
@Dennis Espanol Mexicano?
 
3:41 AM
So, I'm going to make an extension of stackylogic. What should the name be?
 
@El'endiaStarman what would that do, jump back to the break when written outside the loop?
 
@LeakyNun Paraguayo.
 
This is quite obviously the most important part
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Ah-haha that would be funny.
 
@El'endiaStarman or would that turn python syntax on?
 
3:42 AM
>
Like all American dialects of Spanish, Paraguayan Spanish has seseo: the traditional phoneme /θ/ merges with /s/.
Syllable-final /r/ is pronounced as [ɹ] (as in American English red) before /l/ or /s/, influenced by a substrate from Native American languages; perla ('pearl') and verso ("verse") are pronounced [ˈpe̞ɹla] and [ˈbe̞ɹso].
Yeísmo, the historical merger of the phoneme /ʎ/ (spelled <ll>) with /ʝ ~ j/ (spelled <y>). For speakers with yeísmo, the verbs cayó 's/he fell' and calló 's/he fell silent' are homophones, both pronounced [kaˈʝo ~ kaˈjo]. (In dialects that lack yeísmo, maint
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Oooh, that would be fantastic.
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ .........
;_____;
Q____Q
ಠ______ಠ
31 mins ago, by Downgoat
vrey offensive 0/10
 
@DestructibleWatermelon Stickylogic
 
user214599
;_;
 
@Downgoat If you don't like it, just do a throw new Error('Not a chance')
 
3:43 AM
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ though perhaps I could have a --ugly option. Which allows python syntax:
 
@Dennis Podes ensenarme aleman?
 
user214599
@Des Queueylogic
 
if goats > sheep:
    print "yaasssss"
else:
    print "universe is borked"
 
user214599
@DestructibleWatermelon Queueylogic?
 
user214599
@Downgoat since then, the universe got borked.
 
3:46 AM
@LeakyNun OK, the part about yeísmo is a bit anti-climactic. The notable thing about Paraguayan Spanish in this aspect is that it does not have yeísmo.
 
@Downgoat Gee, everything gets your goat
 
@Dennis so wiki is wrong?
 
@LeakyNun I'm terrible at teaching languages, and I've tried on multiple occasions. I also don't know why somebody would want to learn German. :P
 
user214599
NEIN
 
@LeakyNun It's not wrong. It neither says that Paraguayan Spanish has yeísmo, nor that it doesn't.
 
3:48 AM
@Dennis para ensenarme todo lo que hacerias es hablarme en aleman xd
Paraguayan Spanish (Spanish: español paraguayo) is a version of the Spanish language spoken in Paraguay. In addition, it influences the speech of the Argentine provinces of Misiones, Corrientes, Formosa, and, to a lesser extent, Chaco. The Guarani language is co-official with Spanish in Paraguay, and most Paraguayans speak both languages. Guaraní is the home language of more than half the population of Paraguay, with higher proportions of its use in rural areas, and those who speak Spanish at home slightly in the majority in the cities. The Swedish linguist Bertil Malmberg visited Paraguay in 1946...
 
*harías
 
@Dennis right
 
I think we'll annoy more than a handful of people if we start writing in foreign languages here.
 
@Dennis lol, i do that all the time
 
@Downgoat break n; to break out of n loops
 
3:50 AM
@Dennis ich immer tue es
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ already working on that
 
user214599
._.
 
@MatthewRoh HERESY
 
@Downgoat BTW, I think the error display should be fixed now
 
\o/
 
3:54 AM
@LeakyNun tue es immer Although immer sounds a bit weird here. andauernd would be a better choice.
 
@Dennis danke
@Dennis und das ist wie du mich lehrst xd
 

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