The Nineteenth Byte

Helka Homba

4:00 AM

√∫λⁿdλ = ?

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@HelkaHomba I finally figured it out.

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba Isn't it like sqrt(λ^(n+1) / n)?

GitHub changed the way they display tabs: now they're 4-space width equivalent, whereas they used to be 8. :( I prefer 8 so I know when I'm looking at garbage.

Helka Homba

+ c in there

Alex A.

eh whatevs

GamrCorps

@AlexA. NOOOOOOO WHYYYYY

Dennis

4:07 AM

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

Tabs make software bad

Dennis

s/bad/beautiful/

Alex A.

Edit rejected

Dennis

I'll just eleven it in. :P

Quill

we need a new type of whitespace that's a mix of tabs and spaces

Four newline indentation lol

Sp3000

4:11 AM

@AlexA. Also /(n+1)

Dennis

@QPaysTaxes Ew, basic regular expressions are worse than spaces.

Alex A.

@Sp3000 Ah right. It's been too long. u_u

Downgoat

@Quill newlines? Everyone knows carriage returns are where it's at.

Dennis

Nice try, Astley.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

I love ERB

Alex A.

4:12 AM

@Quill CRLF/LF FLAME WAR

Dennis

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Is that HERB with a silent H?

Sp3000

@Dennis History of Epic Rap Battles, clearly

Quill

Hey @Mods, whatever happened with the site renaming proposal? Was that status-declined or status-deferred?

Alex A.

Status we graduated we shouldn't change our name afterward

2

@Dennis Rolled back then locked for content dispute

Quill

@AlexA. That's a long tag

Alex A.

4:15 AM

I've seen longer

Apparently

Sp3000

@Dennis Side note: can you think of any other challenges other than CRC32 which required a 5-10 digit integer constant in CJam?

I'm having fun with the hard problem of golfing CJam constants

Dennis

Not right now, no.

Downgoat

I wrote docs on Cheddar's functions:

> functions are liek avocad. they are great but you tri fo thritee minut an they dont work

Alex A.

Microsoft made something interesting that may not be garbage

Dennis

@Downgoat Sounds cheesy.

Sp3000

4:19 AM

@AlexA. That clickbait

@Dennis No worries, thanks

Downgoat

@AlexA. that's obviously most probably not possible so I'm assuming rickroll

Quill

@AlexA. Apparently they did a IFTTT style thing as well

Alex A.

IFTTT == If Firefox Told Theresa Things?

@Downgoat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's a link to GitHub so idk what to say

@Sp3000 I should have prefaced it with "breaking news."

Quill

@AlexA. Breaking News: Forget everything you know about X... and learn Y in ten easy steps! You won't believe number 6!

Alex A.

XD

Downgoat

4:21 AM

@AlexA. so is this: gifsharer.github.io

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. please update julia showcase your language ._.

Cyoce

!UPDATE!: ಠ is now an officially recognized character in pretzel's codepage.

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I will eventually

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. okai :3

Alex A.

@Cyoce ಠ_ಠ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:23 AM

@Cyoce ಠ_

Downgoat

@Cyoce ಠ

Cyoce

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Helka Homba

Too tired to argue but maybe others can give input on codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/79200/rainbowlify-an-image/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

kk

xnor

this minimizing 1's challenge is turning out surprisingly hard to solve directly

i.e. to come up with a direct expression without searching

Quill

4:24 AM

I've always wondered why there's a noredirect query parameter on a comment link

Downgoat

I want my barn to be here

Sp3000

@xnor Oh? Any particularly interesting cases?

Alex A.

@xnor Yeah, I was thinking that earlier. I haven't thought of a good way to do it yet.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I just realized. Helka's challenge is pyrovision

@HelkaHomba status-complete

kk g2g bai

Downgoat

@HelkaHomba are you going to allow RGB arrays? I want to know if I should make my JS solution use canvas or be able to take an RGB array

orlp

4:28 AM

@HelkaHomba how is @DrGreenEggsandHamDJ answer ok?

it literally requires some Image object as input

why is that Image object OK, but a simple array of pixel values isn't?

Downgoat

Also, @HelkaHomba can I take a URL for input?

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

>Write a program or function that takes in two non-negative integers and an image in any common image file format

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'd argue that a pixel array is a pretty common image file format on this site

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

If that isn't acceptable, I can make it take a string and load it instead.

orlp

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ yes, you don't take an image file format, you take a PIL image object

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:30 AM

(Also, s/>/> /)

Helka Homba

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ that's what should be done, yes

@Downgoat I suppose. it's essentially a file path

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

now bai for real

Helka Homba

@Downgoat I'm trying to enforce "common image file format" but I'm not sure it's working...

Alex A.

Personally I thought "common image file format" was pretty unambiguous

Downgoat

perhaps just specify "png", "jpg", "tiff", or "gif",

Helka Homba

4:33 AM

Yeah. I mean bmp or jpg or png or w/e (just like many other image challenges where this problem has not come up)

Alex A.

I don't see why an RGB array would be acceptable under that terminology.

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ಥ_ಥ

orlp

I don't see why image-processing is exempt from imposing useless I/O requirements that do not pertain to the challenge

that's a reason that many other challenges are often downvoted

Alex A.

It might be worth a meta discussion as to what constitutes an image. It sounds incredibly pedantic but it would provide guidance in this situation.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Okay, I'll edit that in.

That's some trippy shit right there.

orlp

4:37 AM

also, could people use thumbnails for that question?

Alex A.

^ Please

Downgoat

@orlp you should probably leave a comment on the posts. I doubt everyone who posted will see your chat message

Helka Homba

@orlp to be fair, a plain array does not specify the image dimensions, which are important for displaying it

orlp

@HelkaHomba correct, my proposal is to allow a pixel array with dimensions, or a pixel matrix as an input format

it just happens that the dimensions are not necessary for your challenge

although I'd be willing to add two more (unused) parameters to my function for the width/height

Cyoce

What character makes sense for a no-op?

orlp

4:40 AM

@AlexA. I will generalize this and post to meta

@Cyoce the space?

underscore

Helka Homba

@Cyoce ø

Alex A.

Yeah, space or semicolon

orlp

@HelkaHomba no that's the empty set

IMO

Helka Homba

ᴓ

Alex A.

My preferred no-op operator: NOOP

Cyoce

4:41 AM

@HelkaHomba I like that. I already use ø, but I can use Ø

Helka Homba

°ᴗ°

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Cyoce

Is there a language that SE syntax highlighting supports which uses ; as comment?

Alex A.

(I'm dead inside)Oo.. (╯°ᴗ°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Helka Homba

●‗●

Alex A.

@Cyoce Scheme

/lisp

Cyoce

4:44 AM

Ok then I'm using ; as nop. sorry @HelkaHomba

Helka Homba

¤ᴖ¤

Cyoce

What can I say? I like pretty colors.

Alex A.

( ͡★ ͜ʖ ͡★)

Cyoce

What should ← do? (→ is map, can't figure out how to relate that to ←, but I can't have unmatched arrows in my codepage)

xnor

@Sp3000 for the number 6105000, at first it looks like it's optimal to do [0, 0, 5, 4, -1, -5, -4, 1] (coefficients of 1, 11, ...), but [0, 0, -5, -5, 0, 5, 5, 0] has smaller cost (100 rather than 102)

Downgoat

4:51 AM

Does anyone know what this means:

[ { [Error: EACCES: permission denied, mkdir '/usr/local/lib/cpml']

how can an array be in an object??

Cyoce

Language?

Downgoat

@Cyoce javascript/node.js

Sp3000

@xnor Hmmm

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce "reduce"?

Downgoat

@Cyoce asm

^^

Cyoce

4:52 AM

@Downgoat Node uses brackets to show certain types of objects. For example entering in (function(){}) will print back out [Function] in the REPL. Is that it?

Helka Homba

@AlexA. ▼☉ᴥ☉▼

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce any programming language that does this is pretty much good

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ / and \ are reduce

Helka Homba

filter?

Downgoat

@Cyoce hm... but do you have any idea how I would access the message in the above?

@Cyoce maybe split/spread?

Cyoce

4:54 AM

@Downgoat Spread?

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba Aw it looks like a pup

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce how about filter (like helka said) or perhaps reduce, keeping results?

e.g. +/\ 1 2 3 = 1 3 6

so +←1 2 3 = 1 3 6

xnor

@Sp3000 i think I can show that you should never have any coeffs with abs of 6 or higher except in the 1's digit place (where it's 7 or higher), and that no 5 should ever precede a negative and no -5 should precede a positive

Downgoat

@Quill are you there?

Quill

Yeah, wassup

Downgoat

4:56 AM

5 mins ago, by Downgoat

[ { [Error: EACCES: permission denied, mkdir '/usr/local/lib/cpml']

@Quill do you know what that means?

what is { [Error:

Quill

Try running it in sudo; you can't make a folder. Error handlers are built to return multiple errors, the braces are just in a few levels of error handling

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yeah, I like that. BTW "reduce keeping results" would be called "scan"

Helka Homba

@Cyoce better yet reverse

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce TIL. I need to learn haskell

Downgoat

@Quill I am not trying to fix the error. I am trying to figure out what [Error: means

how is an array directly in an object without the key?

How can I access the error message?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:57 AM

BTW wtf is hoogle

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ google for haskell

Quill

@Downgoat It's probably being assigned the 0 key like an array, that's weird though

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you really should it's quite fun.

Quill

Error handlers are built to return multiple errors, the braces are just in a few levels of error handling

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat oic

@Cyoce So your golfing lang is akin to jelly?

Cyoce

4:58 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ???

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

is it tacit

implicit input

stuff like that

hooks chains dyads

Cyoce

God no.

2

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

so it's just infix?

Cyoce

Trying to understand Jelly makes my brain explode.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Does it make it turn to jelly?

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