The Nineteenth Byte

did you name the mask blaze_it?

quartata

> mkdir "config", 420 or die

@Maltysen No but I should.

x & blaze_it

lel

quartata

sub blaze_it { die if $! }
mkdir "config", 420; blaze_it

much better

12:10 AM

should newlines in cheddar be optional?

@Downgoat does it have semicolons or something?

semicolons exist

@Downgoat I think so. I was thinking about whitespace, and code is good if it can be minified

but should it be like python where they are optional?

@NathanMerrill of course! we are code golf.SE

I don't mean golfed

I mean minified (which a step, sure)

12:11 AM

In python they are both functional and optional. Do you want them to be completely ignored, or to have an effect which you don't have to use?

golfed === minified?

@trichoplax how are semicolons functional?

@Downgoat minified = minus whitespace, etc.

minified is part of golfing, but its more of an automated purpose

@Downgoat I meant newlines

oh ok

12:12 AM

When I see "minified" I assume it means the part of golfing that doesn't significantly increase runtime or memory usage

anyways, imagine if JS or CSS couldn't be minified

there's a new what if!

\o/

ಠ_ಠ who named rainbows, rainbows instead of sunbows

because the occur after rain?

I think they make more sense as rainbows than sunbows

then why are moonbows called moonbows

and they are not in the shape of a bow, they should be rainarcs

12:20 AM

cuz the special part about them is the moon. you can't call them rainbows again

I do agree with the bows criticism

refraction arcs

moon induced refraction arcs > moonbow

definitely

although, bow is still a shape

though, it implies "supposed to be straight"

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Q: The Nine Pattern

Introduction I stumbled across this (useless) pattern the other day while I was watching TV. I named it "the 9 pattern" because the first number to use it was 9. The gist of it is, you enter a number (let's say x), and then you get back: - x - x + (x / 3) [let's call this y] - two-thirds of y [l...

12:39 AM

halp, how retract deleition voet

As long as no one else votes, your vote will expire after a while

You might be able to retract it by pressing delete again. Or maybe something worse will happen. Only one way to find out...

@trichoplax I already tried that

Huh, I thought the ability to retract delete votes was added recently. Or maybe I'm thinking of the ability to retract close votes...

I'm trying to figure out the exact RGB value of the color purple in my avatar.

If you're talking about the answer to The Nine Pattern, it doesn't appear to have any downvotes or delete votes anymore

12:45 AM

@PhiNotPi (190, 35, 177)

Screenshot -> MS Paint -> Dropper -> Edit colors

I've taken a few samples that tend to vary by a little bit.

@El'endiaStarman, you know things. Do delete votes on an answer disappear when the downvotes are all retracted? Or when the score is no longer negative?

Nope.

When it is edited...?

Uhh...I don't think so in that case either.

I would've thought you could retract delete votes. Lemme look that up.

12:47 AM

Hmm. Mysterious disappearing delete votes

@PhiNotPi Sip says: #BD2DB0

Q: Ability to retract reopen/delete votes

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It seems that now we can retract close votes but we cannot retract reopen votes or delete votes. I am trying to retract my reopen vote here but it does not allow me to. Can we have that ability?

feature-request vote-to-delete vote-to-reopen

That's slightly different.

@trichoplax Oh, wait, what's going on? I thought you guys were trying to retract delete votes.

@El'endiaStarman Thanks - I guess it must be an automatic expiry then. Whether on editing or vote count changing I don't know

@El'endiaStarman This answer had 2 delete votes and 2 downvotes. Then the 2 downvotes were retracted following an improving edit, and now the delete votes don't show, but neither is there the option to delete vote anymore. I can't recall if only downvoted posts can be delete voted, or whether only negative net score posts can be delete voted.

12:53 AM

negative net

(except for mods)

Ah thanks.

Okay, I'm taking #BE23B1 as the accurate value, based on the percentage of the purple that is that color.

Yeah, I'll bet that's it. You just can't see the delete votes that are already there.

Oh - so they might show again if the score goes negative again?

I'll bet that's what'll happen.

I think mods are always able to see delete votes.

12:56 AM

How many times do I need to downvote it to find out? ;)

Right now it's at +1/-0, so only two downvotes are needed, but that's not exactly the best course of action. :P

Yea yea, I know you have to speak in mod-voice >_>

@Geobits time to break out the socks ;P

What's up with the controversy on your answer, anyway?

@Geobits If we both downvote it for just a second to see, I can't see the harm...

1:18 AM

I decided to downvote the question instead.

For insisting on a function?

...and an array

That and the array v output thing, yea.

The post clearly says 'output', but in comments is insistent on return value.

It's a first post, and the author seemed to welcome feedback when I edited the formatting, so hopefully it just takes getting used to the site

Not to mention it's just boring. Unless I'm not seeing something hidden, it's just "do basic arithmetic".

I know, and I usually try to be more sympathetic to first posts. I'm Meanbits today though.

I'm not a golfer, so I wasn't sure if there was some redundancy that would allow reusing bits of calculation, but the answers so far seem to be just performing the separate simple tasks so maybe I was being optimistic...

@Geobits Careful or that'll stick ;)

1:23 AM

I'm sure that's not the last I'll hear of it either way :P

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

I think it can handle a downvote anyway - it has 4 answers in an hour and is on HNQ...

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