The Nineteenth Byte

@QPaysTaxes I downgraded to 1.9 to run a koth entry and I don't use it enough to remember how to change it back easily. I'd google, but too lazy right now.

Kenny Lau

@Downgoat How would you write $1 and 0 together?

Downgoat

@KennyLau what do you mean by that?

El'endia Starman

@Lembik I see it more as that question is not particularly interesting. People who solve it are just implementing a known formula. There have been many really hard math questions that drew a lot of interest because they explored something that was previously unknown or little-known. For instance, those diamond tiling questions.

Kenny Lau

4:14 AM

Well, $10 produces the 10th capture group.

Lembik

@El'endiaStarman How can it now be interesting!?! :)

Downgoat

^^

Kenny Lau

I see. Never thought of that.

Nope.

Lembik

@El'endiaStarman Maybe I didn't motivate it well enough.

Kenny Lau

+`(#+)\1
$1 0
(^|0)#
1
(space)
(newline)

########### produces 1011

El'endia Starman

4:17 AM

@Lembik It's hard to take something known and make a really interesting challenge centered around it. Far better to go "Hmm, what if I tried this..." and base a challenge on that.

Lembik

@El'endiaStarman the reason why it is interesting for me is that there is no existing fast method

Kenny Lau

(by the way, $\n0 to multiply a binary number by 2)

El'endia Starman

That's how I came up with the electrons bouncing in a wire question.

Lembik

@El'endiaStarman so there is an opportunity to be the first/best

and the code that does exist is slooooooow

Downgoat

@Lembik first is not the best

Lembik

4:18 AM

@Downgoat :) First fast code I meant

Downgoat

remember: First is the worst, second is the best, third is the one with the treasure chest

Sherlock9

@QPaysTaxes Yep

Downgoat

I sure for one want a treasure chest

El'endia Starman

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Q: Electrons bouncing in a wire

Imagine a "wire" that has n spaces. Imagine further that there are "electrons" in that wire. These electrons only live for one unit of time. Any spaces in the wire that are adjacent to exactly one electron become an electron. In Game of Life terminology, this is B1/S. For example, this is a wire...

The sequence from that question was approved as an OEIS sequence today! :D

Downgoat

Should all objects be classes in Cheddar?

Geobits

4:19 AM

@Lembik The problem with that is that it's also a well-studied problem IIRC. If it's that well studied and nothing exists yet, the odds are slim we're going to find it here. There's always a chance, but it's more likely to find something interesting on a problem that hasn't been studied by people who do it for a living.

Lembik

@El'endiaStarman that is very cool

Sherlock9

@QPaysTaxes XD I hope that explains it, then

Lembik

@Geobits but Ton Hospel's answer is already an improvement

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman That is awesome! link?

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Hmm. How do you mean, and what other options are there?

Geobits

4:20 AM

@Lembik So why do you sound disappointed with the answers?

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman like everything is a class

Lembik

@Geobits There have been none since I put the bounty on :)

El'endia Starman

11 hours ago, by El'endia Starman

A268754 (from Electrons bouncing in a wire) was just published!!! :D

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes the question not the OEIS

Lembik

@Geobits I am just hoping there will be at least one more. In fact Ton Hospel's answer can be made multi-core easily by any good coder :)

Downgoat

4:22 AM

> Rule: B/S

Lembik

so there is a cheap win for those who like writing that sort of code.. it would help a lot if he documented his answer though!

Downgoat

the rule is BS?? :P

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Lawl. :P

Geobits

@Lembik I would feel terrible accepting a bounty for doing that.

Lembik

@Geobits it would be better of TH did it, you are right.

his answer is very nice :)

Kenny Lau

4:23 AM

@Downgoat
T`d`02468acegi
T`dl`1-9l`.(?=[a-i])
T`l`d

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Also, does it actually say that anywhere? I only see B1/S but I might've missed something...?

Downgoat

in the link on your website

Kenny Lau

1547614 -> 3095228

Lembik

@AlexA. thanks!

Kenny Lau

@Downgoat Care to golf this?

Lembik

4:24 AM

also.. people should upvote his answer more!

imho

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Oh, I see. Lolz.

Alex A.

@Lembik ?

Lembik

@AlexA. didn't you just edit TH's answer?

Alex A.

I just added syntax highlighting

Downgoat

Hi @Doorknob

Alex A.

4:25 AM

I had seen the question but not the answers

Lembik

right.. I was just saying thank you

@AlexA. aha

Alex A.

Oh. No problem. :P

Lembik

it's worth running TH's answer just to appreciate its awesomeness

Downgoat

@KennyLau unfortunately I only know regex, not retina regex.

Kenny Lau

@Downgoat I thought you speak Retina.

@Downgoat Anyway, d is 0-9 and l is a-z

Downgoat

4:26 AM

@KennyLau I speak English, JavaScript, Regex, and a little bit of French

Kenny Lau

alright

Lembik

@Downgoat how do you ask someone on a date in JS?

Kenny Lau

ask someone out for a date?

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes Pourquoi est cela dans /s?

Lembik

@KennyLau I was wondering about that :)

@QPaysTaxes :)

Geobits

4:28 AM

@Lembik Surely this: developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/…

El'endia Starman

@KennyLau "on" is correct too.

Kenny Lau

I see. Thanks @El'endiaStarman

Lembik

@Geobits thanks!

Downgoat

 O -- I have a question
\|/
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/\
-----------
new Date();

Lembik

but it would be a great reaction to a date proposal :)

Downgoat

4:28 AM

that's how you ask someone, on a date

Lembik

I would love to date you, but not until you correct your grammar

Kenny Lau

Anyone speaks Retina care to golf this?
T`d`02468acegi
T`dl`1-9l`.(?=[a-j])
T`l`d

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes Pourquoi pas?

@KennyLau @MartinBüttner ^^

@QPaysTaxes oh

Kenny Lau

Tried.

Anyone speaks Retina care to golf this?
T`d`02468acegi
T`dl`1-9l`.(?=[a-j])
T`l`d

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes There are no indents in Retina.

But I see you really just meant code formatting.

Helka Homba

4:31 AM

@Downgoat Martin is not a trained seal, forced to golf everything he sees :I

Kenny Lau

But Martin's not here

Downgoat

@HelkaHomba No, I'm just asking him if he might know how to golf it

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba Of course not, he's a scarfed German! :P

Kenny Lau

@DigitalTrauma do you speak retina?

Downgoat

Hi @DigitalTrauma

ninja'd

Jester Tran

4:32 AM

Hi

Downgoat

Hello @JesterTran

Kenny Lau

@JesterTran do you speak retina?

Jester Tran

@KennyLau Sorry, I don't

Digital Trauma

verbosely, yes, though there are much better Retina golfers

Kenny Lau

it's alright, have a nice day

@DigitalTrauma Please attempt.

Geobits

4:33 AM

Surely there are better ways to ask, no?

3

Jester Tran

I have a question about bots. If anyone were to make a bot which sends "hello, everyone" to every single chat room in chatstackexchange, then what is the expected time the bot will finish?

Downgoat

does anyone know scopes should work?

^^

Jester Tran

@QPaysTaxes How does one make a bot?

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes tried. JavaScript breaks on Magic beans

@JesterTran you use a library. I'll link

Alex A.

@JesterTran I don't know why but I could have sworn you said "I have a question about tacos."

Downgoat

4:34 AM

@JesterTran github.com/vihanb/SEChatbot

Jester Tran

@Downgoat Thanks

Alex A.

@QPaysTaxes Don't question it

Geobits

@JesterTran I doubt it would take too long. If it were already in each room, it should be very fast. Though I'm sure the ban won't take long to come either.

Downgoat

@JesterTran np, just don't abuse it.

Jester Tran

@Downgoat No problem. Really curious about the procedures of constructing a bot

@QPaysTaxes hahahah

Downgoat

4:35 AM

hello

Alex A.

Just a heads up, we generally don't allow bots in The Nineteenth Byte.

You can test out your bot in the chat sandbox or in Beep Boop Maggot.

Geobits

♦ Beep Boop Bingus Bin

VITRIFICATION ORDER (1947) CONDEMNED DO NOT ENTER

Downgoat

you can test your bot in Beep Boot Mattoe

hi @Dennis

Geobits

Dennis must've sensed there was talk of bots in TNB.

Alex A.

His mod senses were tingling

Digital Trauma

4:37 AM

@KennyLau what is the intent?

Kenny Lau

To multiply a decimal (base-10) number by 2

Dennis

@JesterTran Right before it gets suspended.

Jester Tran

How does the bot work? What are the basic procedures it would need to take to get from each room and write the message? Or does the bot do this all in one go, somehow?

Dennis

Hello, @QPaysTaxes and @Downgoat!

Downgoat

@JesterTran you paste the code in your console. and you watch your magic beans grow

Geobits

4:38 AM

@JesterTran That particular bot uses a config file and only goes into one room per instance. You'd need to modify it a bit to do otherwise.

Jester Tran

@Geobits Ok

Geobits

Oh wait... that isn't the chatbot I thought it was.

Alex A.

This is not the chatbot you're looking for

Dennis

@QPaysTaxes Not even a bit. Sorry.

Downgoat

@Geobits it's the one coded in a much superior language :P

El'endia Starman

4:39 AM

@Downgoat I'll be figuring that out for Pytek soon as well. :P

Geobits

I thought it was the python one I use for Marky, SE-Chatbot. Not the js one SEChatbot

@Downgoat eww gross

Downgoat

ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

JS = Jam Slammin'

Digital Trauma

@KennyLau Is unary conversion an option?

Kenny Lau

That would make the code longer

Geobits

4:40 AM

@AlexA. Jaded Sycophant

Alex A.

hahaha

nice vocab

Geobits

It's a blessing and a curse :P

Downgoat

Does anyone here happen to know how to do any of these things:

Define class structure
 Define basic runtime enviorment
 Token linking
 Call stack handling
 Define namespaces
 Handle loopups
 Define primitive classes
 Call stack optimization
 Conditional expression handling

Geobits

homework question alert!

Actually it was a joke

Downgoat

Actually wat.

Sherlock9

4:42 AM

@QPaysTaxes I'll give it a shot

Jester Tran

Say I want to make a bot that spams a particular picture of a coconut on The Nineteenth Bye and Mathematics chatrooms. Can someone explain to me how the journey would look like for the bot? (don't need code.)

Initial position is the main page of all rooms: https://chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=all&sort=active&host=chat.stackexchange.com

Geobits

@Downgoat Those things would all be easier in lisp. You should do that.

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat If it's any consolation, I'm figuring basically everything out as I go. :P

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman I thought that would work for me but it does not work.

Alex A.

@JesterTran It would be an arduous journey for the bot, as it would spend most of its time in suspension. :P

Helka Homba

4:43 AM

@JesterTran It would be suspended anyway

Doorknob

1. Think about it.
2. Think about it harder.
3. Abandon bot idea.

Geobits

@JesterTran You might want to word that differently if you want actual help ;)

Downgoat

@JesterTran It might have a smaller chance of getting banned if it spammed avocads rather than coconuts

Digital Trauma

:28853070

Downgoat

(though don't do that)

Digital Trauma

4:44 AM

`\d+
$*1$&$*
1+
$.&`

Jester Tran

My intention is not make a bot and implement it, it's to understand it's function...

Digital Trauma

\d+
$*1$&$*
1+
$.&

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman does Pytek have a github?

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat There's a chance you're trying to do too much all at once.

Geobits

@JesterTran You might consider playing with the existing chatbots and looking at their code, rather than asking specifics about bannable offenses. It looks shady, ya know?

El'endia Starman

4:45 AM

@Downgoat Not yet. I think I'll put one up once I finish the parser/executor framework.

Downgoat

ok

El'endia Starman

Which should be any day now.

Geobits

6-8 weeks?

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman so in 6-8 weeks?

ninja'd to the bad joke

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat ;)

Downgoat

4:46 AM

@QPaysTaxes Yes

I have a lot of issues posted on Github

):<

Geobits

@QPaysTaxes That's a yes from everyone unless you're more specific.

Helka Homba

@JesterTran For python you could use mechanize or Selenium. You can make also make some basic bots with just JavaScript. But again, only put bots in chatrooms where they are acceptable.

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Bahaha :P

Sherlock9

@Downgoat with, not on

Jester Tran

@Geobits I only know C.

Geobits

4:47 AM

@JesterTran Reading and tinkering with existing code is a great way to learn.

Downgoat

@Sherlock9 it was a joke! :P

Geobits

No

El'endia Starman

No, GitHub loaded fine for me.

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes no

try doing a traceroute and see where it ends up

Alex A.

GitHub loads fine for me

Helka Homba

4:47 AM

^

Sherlock9

^^ Same

Kenny Lau

@DigitalTrauma Apparently my code can deal with 123456789 while your code cannot, although it works.

Geobits

We'll need 30 seconds to pin down the location. Keep him on the line.

Jester Tran

@HelkaHomba That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking what the bot does to achieve it's goal in spamming two particular rooms? Does it load both links and spams in one go?

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes run a traceroute not a trace

@QPaysTaxes Tra Cert!

Jester Tran

4:49 AM

It's like asking how conditional statements work under the hood and the answer that will satisfy me is machine language

Geobits

I'd hesitate to answer that even if asked by a user I see in here all the time. Someone without an account on PPCG who just dropped in to ask how to write a spambot seems.... off.

Jester Tran

@QPaysTaxes I can google myself a spambot and give it a go right now... but how will that give me more understanding of what's happening under-the-hood? Ok, whatever bots. Let's say, a bot that searches all chats to find a particular expletive. How would that work?

Geobits

You'd probably just use the search page (for each room) and parse the results for that.

Jester Tran

@Geobits How does the bot go to each search page?

Load room?

Geobits

@JesterTran Nah. There's a room list page you could scrape. Then it's just a direct link to the search pages.

Jester Tran

4:53 AM

Then mess around with html/JS?

Helka Homba

@JesterTran Yes (well that's one option). You can make a bot that literally does what you would do in the browser - clicking buttons, filling in text boxes, etc.

Jester Tran

@Geobits Ooh, ok