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9:00 PM
:P
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ reload?
 
I think the US would deny that France is one of their parents
 
@Maltysen I did, and it re-sorted itself
 
You know, the whole "freedom fries" and "freedom toast" thing...
 
@Maltysen It really was at -2 and now it's at -3. I loaded the page again to see the -3.
 
9:00 PM
french toast and french fries are not even french though
 
Freedom fries is a political euphemism for French fries in the United States. The term came to prominence in 2003 when the then Republican Chairman of the Committee on House Administration, Bob Ney, renamed the menu item in three Congressional cafeterias in response to France's opposition to the proposed invasion of Iraq. Although originally supported with several restaurants changing their menus as well, the term fell out of use due to declining support for the Iraq War. Following Ney's resignation as Chairman in 2006, it was quietly reverted. == Background == === French war opposition...
 
The deletion date is still Feb 16, so it wasn't undeleted and then redeleted.
 
nor is french kissing
 
My life is a lie
 
@El'endiaStarman is it like that thing with closed questions where its only enforced client side for a few hours?
 
9:01 PM
@Fatalize nor are french
 
(Pretty sure the French kiss is older than France)
 
apparently
 
Well, the answer has been deleted for a couple months, so...
 
Nevermind the scores. Why is my diamond golden?
 
idk then :/
@Dennis userscript
blame downgoat
 
9:02 PM
@El'endiaStarman Someone kept the browser open for a while just to mess with you.
 
Taken from that "30 reason we hate the French": 5. Because they make love more than anyone else
On average, that's 137 times a year; we only manage 119 times.
See what we have to deal with
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I know, but why?
 
stupid reasons
 
30 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
blame downgoat
 
@Dennis golden diamonds
 
9:02 PM
idk :|
 
are a thing
 
Man, @Fatalize is salty today. :P
 
Nah. We'll whoop their ass in this year's football euro anyway
 
I'll be disappointed if you don't. >_>
 
9:07 PM
@Fatalize I don't expect newspapers to make sense in any country...
@MartinBüttner Now that we've graduated, I'm impressed with the maturity of the chatroom in not starring that.
 
I actually kept watching it in case I might have to delete it...
 
@trichoplax now some wisewad will
 
@MartinBüttner lol
 
@trichoplax Americans don't understand what it means :p
 
@HelkaHomba Have more faith in us!
@Fatalize OK, I'm still impressed with everyone who does... :P
 
9:11 PM
Woo, first math.se gold badge!
2
 
electorate? :P
 
Nice Phil Votpi!
 
@PhiNotPi and congrats on 1k
 
a question about optimal procrastination... and he's proud
 
9:13 PM
@PhiNotPi I was looking for a multiplayer browser cookie clicker we could have running just for PPCG
 
I wonder if it would work as a KotH if there are a limited number of each upgrade
So delaying buying means you may miss your opportunity
 
I'm collecting the meta posts regarding
 
@mınxomaτ ಠ_ಠ
 
23.5% of my math.se answers are accepted, versus 1.88% here
 
Any suggestions?
 
9:16 PM
@Downgoat You actually woke me up.
(11pm here)
 
Wow that's a strong glare
 
If I set my laptop to sleep when closed, my mouse driver mysteriously uninstalls itself.
 
@mınxomaτ you should probably check that out
 
@mınxomaτ oh ._. Sorry about that
 
No, HP has to get their s*t together. Their "low-budget" business level notebooks are unusable cr*p. So many weird driver issues. Like it is specifically engineered to fail.
 
9:23 PM
@mınxomaτ that's toshiba, except I don't really mind, cuz their cheap laptops are actually really, really cheap
and really hard to break (physically)
 
Anyone want to review my meta-post regarding the pop-con?
 
I'm going to sleep now. Bai!
 
bay
 
^ this is true, right?
(\ = setminus)
 
Nope this is not true
 
9:30 PM
why?
 
Consider A=C={1,2} and B = {1}, D={2}
 
oh yeah
how about A != B != C != D (they are all not equal)
 
or A = D = {1}, B = C = {2}
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ not equal or disjoint?
 
well take my example and add 3, 4, 5, 6 to A, B, C, D, respectively. that won't affect the 1s and 2s in the result
 
9:33 PM
A={1,2,3},B={1,2},C={1},D={2}
 
oh true
hm
okay, scrapping the proof :P
 
lol maths
Wish I understood any of it
I also wish this laptop had a bigger space bar
 
A is a set. There, you understand some of it :P
 
B is a set too.
 
What is this U-looking symbol?
 
9:35 PM
the union
 
Set union that joins the members of sets together into a new set
 
Oh, that's just like SQL :D
 
@Phrancis the \ setwise difference
 
cool! does SQL have a union operator?
 
@MartinBüttner I discussed this with Alex before: I want to make a meta post for gathering drafts for a new tag description of . Can I ask you to review it before I post it?
 
9:36 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ UNION
 
@Maltysen it won't work :(
 
:P
 
@Maltysen FTFY
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what won't work?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yes it has union, and union all
 
9:36 PM
Hmm, I thought of an interesting idea for a conlang grammar but I have no idea how people build up the vocabulary in conlangs...
 
@flawr uh sure
 
@Phrancis wait you don't do all-caps when you write SQL?
blasphemy
 
(difference being that union all allows duplicate values)
 
@quartata @Doorknob can probably tell you
 
@Maltysen lol no, I hate all-caps code
 
do you hate BATCH?
 
@Phrancis heretic
 
I don't BATCH
 
9:38 PM
@MartinBüttner @quartata I have no idea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I think the only acceptable all-caps code is LOLCODE
 
@flawr * List item? :P
 
Uhm, that is not supposed to be there=)
 
@quartata See the sidebar here
 
Do you think it is a good idea to ask for (complete) drafts?
 
9:39 PM
"should/should" looks a bit weird just make it "should (not) be"
 
@MartinBüttner what if A and C are disjoint and B and D are disjoint?
 
@flawr probably.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no
 
in PPCG Minecraft Server, 7 secs ago, by Helka Homba
Anyone want to get on for some explosive fun?
 
@HelkaHomba yes
@MartinBüttner oh, nvm
 
@MartinBüttner I think there was another discussion on meta that I did not include, but I cannot find it right now. Is it grammar/language wise acceptable?
 
9:43 PM
sure
 
Is there anything else I should add/change?
 
lol I made some things on Minecraft before
Quit playing it several years ago though
 
@flawr Nothing I can think of right, now but I haven't been part of the conversation that led to the idea of posting it :P
 
Well the discussion mostly took place in meta, and I just asked Alex whether he too would agree on such a meta-post.
 
@Doorknob So I should just generate random words and assign meanings?
 
9:49 PM
Are bug debugging help on-topic on SO?
 
wow o key pls
 
@quartata I guess. Or you could make it based on an existing langauge
 
Yes could:use-just I words-English
But it would be cooler to have its own vocabulary
 
so VSO?
 
Yeah.
- combines verbs and adverbs or nouns/adjectives into compound nouns.
 
9:54 PM
An agglutinative language is a type of synthetic language with morphology that primarily uses agglutination: words may contain different morphemes to determine their meaning, but each of these morphemes (including stems and affixes) remains in every aspect unchanged after their union, thus resulting in generally easier deducible word meanings if compared to fusional languages, which allow modifications in either or both the phonetics or spelling of one or more morphemes within a word, generally for shortening the word on behalf of an easier pronunciation. The term was introduced by Wilhelm von...
 
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Q: Find the shortest variable length encoding

SolverThere is an algorithm, which, given the probabilities of certain outcomes, returns the optimal variable length encoding. Say we have a five character alphabet, with these letter probabilites: A | 0.2 B | 0.4 C | 0.1 D | 0.15 E | 0.15 Find the characters with the two smallest probabilities - i...

 
@Doorknob and/or polysynthetic?
 
Hmm I actually don't think I need the :
I'll need to think about this some more.
Are there any other VSO languages I could check out?
 
Irish and Welsh IIRC
(which are both Celtic, so maybe some others there too)
 
Thank I you
 
10:02 PM
In linguistic typology, a verb–subject–object (VSO) language is one in which the most typical sentences arrange their elements in that order, as in Ate Sam oranges (Sam ate oranges). VSO is the third-most common word order, after SVO (as in English and Mandarin) and SOV (as in Latin and Japanese). Examples of languages with VSO word order include Semitic languages (including Arabic, Classical Hebrew, and Ge'ez (Classical Ethiopic)), and Celtic languages (including Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Manx, Welsh, Cornish and Breton), and many Mesoamerican languages. Other families where all or many of t...
 
...hmm I could have a modifier for imperative. Maybe Thank! you :P
 
is "thank you" really an imperative as opposed to an ellipsis?
 
Oh oops i'm stupid
I'm not commanding myself to thank you....
 
10:32 PM
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@AlexA. ^
 
10:51 PM
Are we interested in working on problems? For example, solving subset-sum for n integers with target k requires O(2^n) for brute force, but simple dynamic programming can perform in O(n*k) in pseudopolynomial time. Then there are the more difficult solutions which can achieve values like O(sqrt(n) * k * log n) in pseudopolynomial time also. I don't think any of the more involved algorithms would be easily golfable.
 
11:03 PM
every program can be golfed
@miles Please answer my question: what is the generator polynomial?
 
You already know it, the standard CRC32
 
A cyclic redundancy check (CRC) is an error-detecting code commonly used in digital networks and storage devices to detect accidental changes to raw data. Blocks of data entering these systems get a short check value attached, based on the remainder of a polynomial division of their contents. On retrieval, the calculation is repeated and, in the event the check values do not match, corrective action can be taken against data corruption. CRCs are so called because the check (data verification) value is a redundancy (it expands the message without adding information) and the algorithm is based on...
> The number of distinct CRCs in use has confused developers, a situation which authors have sought to address.[5] There are three polynomials reported for CRC-12,[7] sixteen conflicting definitions of CRC-16, and six of CRC-32.[8]
 
These are polynomial representations of cyclic redundancy checks CRCs. == See also == General category Error correcting code List of checksum algorithms Polynomial Representations of CRCs Parity Specific technological references Adler-32 Fletcher's checksum == External links == Catalogue of parametrised CRC algorithms CRC Polynomial Zoo == References... ==
 
0x04C11DB7, 0x1EDC6F41, 0x741B8CD7, 0x32583499, 0x814141AB
ok
 
The first one is forward and the second one is its reversed form if I recall
Well specifically 0x04C11DB7 is what most use
 
11:10 PM
ok
I take it as 0xEDB88320
 
Yeah thats the reversed bit repr for it
 
ok
 
Hmm, experimenting with this word generator
I'm not sure quite what I want the patterns for words to be or what should be consonants/vowels/etc
Right now I have it on C=bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwxz and V=aeiouy with CVCCV as a pattern
It generates some cool words and some.... weird ones
 
try CVC and CV
instead of together
 
I was doing monosyllables
 
11:18 PM
well, CVC and CV can still generate polysyllables
 
Right
best part is at 0:56
 
11:33 PM
how dafuq would this be pronounced: fywki
 
@quartata what was your input?
 
C=bcdfghlmnpqrstw
W=jkvxz
V=aeiouy
CVCWV
I like the way the words look... but I don't know how I would pronounce them
 
wait those are your words and not filler
 
(oh and monosyllables always)
 
@quartata PHI - UH - KEE
 
11:38 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That's welsh lol
 
oh lol
really?
 
no?
 
Welsh orthography uses 29 letters (including eight digraphs) of the Latin script to write native Welsh words as well as established loanwords. The acute accent (Welsh: acen ddyrchafedig), the grave accent (Welsh: acen ddisgynedig), the circumflex (Welsh: acen grom/to bach/hirnod) and the diaeresis mark (Welsh: didolnod) are also used on vowels, but accented letters are not regarded as part of the alphabet. The letter j was only relatively recently accepted into Welsh orthography for those words borrowed from English in which the /dʒ/ sound is retained in Welsh, even where that sound is not ...
 
@KennyLau fywki? I hope it's not an actual Welsh word
 
11:39 PM
In welsh "y" is a vowel
no i mean
 
Wow, I just picked y as a vowel randomly.
And this is VSO too...
 
"phi-uh-kee"
 
Am I just recreating Welsh?
 
@quartata maybe further divide your C
 
@quartata recreating the whell
(wheel)
 
11:42 PM
@quartata see this
Like many other languages, English has wide variation in pronunciation, both historically and from dialect to dialect. In general, however, the regional dialects of English share a largely similar (but not identical) phonological system. Phonological analysis of English often concentrates on or uses, as a reference point, one or more of the prestige or standard accents, such as Received Pronunciation for England, General American for the United States, and General Australian for Australia. Nevertheless, many other dialects of English are spoken, which do not necessarily descend from any of these...
 
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ sorry, hw questions are on-topic.
OHAI
 
@quartata What does W=jkvxz mean?
 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE :D welcome.
 
@KennyLau In Pyth?
 
@KennyLau sets W to jkvxz in most sane languages.
 
11:45 PM
Or what?
 
note pyth is not sane.
 
@quartata in your filter
 
Oh, each one is a category of letter.
C is consonants, V is vowels and W is "weird letters"
 
I see
not a good division I would say
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 6/10 #goodishpun
 
11:49 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ thanks an hai
 
ᴡᴇʟᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ʜᴀɪ :ᴅ
@quartata looks like lojban. no offense lojbaners
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ mind if I work on FOG online before oration? oration is more complicated
 
@KennyLau I'm just playing around.
I have no real idea what I want my words to look like
 
@quartata try this
A=aeiou
P=cptk
F=bdgptkfhjlmnstvwxyz
R=r
S=s
T=ptkflmnst
FA
FRA
SPRA
FAT
FRAT
SPRAT
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ go ahead
 
What's the monosyllable setting? Less frequent?
 
11:55 PM
I just used default lol
you can adjust that
 
That generates some interesting words.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ thanks
 
Kinda reminds me of a West Slavic language
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ no prob :)
 
:3 :) :ᴘ :ᴅ <3
 
11:56 PM
lol
 
ᴀʟʟ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴏsᴇ ᴀᴘᴘʟʏ
>.< brython apparently lost the server files, on their side (not mine)
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ current (non-functioning) oration interpreter is at rikerw.github.io/oration.html
 

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