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6:00 AM
Which makes me wonder why he does dislike it.
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just doesn't appeal to me
I don't hate it
 
@El'endiaStarman Well, you know what they say
 
@somebody Yeah. NeoVim is great.
 
@AlexA. except for the fact that instead of 'Neovim', a description shows in Ubuntu Software updater
they should probably fix that
 
6:02 AM
Man, I keep feeling like I'm missing the right one...
@AlexA., mind helping me out? :P
 
As a vim fanatic that hasn't used neovim, what's the advantage of it?
 
Say, could we get a new name/url during graduation if we wanted?
 
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
o_O
I don't like you looking at me that way....
 
( ͡- ͜ʖ ͡-)
I closed my eyes
 
6:03 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies yes iirc
 
@Calvin'sHobbies No
 
Thanks for clearing that up..
Not that I really want to, just wondering if it's a thing that happens.
(Also, does our SE site have the longest official name?)
 
We've had a number of name change discussions throughout our history as a site and the result is always "don't change," so even if we could I don't think there'd be community support.
 
6 years old, idk if still relevant
 
Still applies, but that says "before launch."
At this point, the site has graduated, which means it has launched.
 
6:07 AM
but we have no top level domain yet
 
Yeah, but we don't have a top level domain yet.
 
We won't.
 
why not?
 
Anonymous
Pretty sure SE sites don't get TLDs anymore except for those half-SE sites like Ask Different and Ask Ubuntu
 
Only Stack Overflow, Server Fault, Ask Ubuntu, etc. get top level names. The rest of the sites are sitename.stackexchange.com.
 
6:09 AM
I think "Programming Puzzles & Code Golf" has the third longest name after "Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair" and "Software Quality Assurance & Testing". The irony.
 
That is ironic. We should change it to just "p".
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. And all but SO are because they're not technically owned by SE, right?
 
then
 
@Mego No, they're all owned by SE.
 
tries to find who owns ppcg.lol
 
6:10 AM
@somebody It's @Quill.
 
cd src
Oh, whoops, I typed that in the browser, not my terminal.
 
Anonymous
Oh wait it's PO that's owned by different people
 
@Mego I though it was just because they existed before "Stack Exchange" officially did? (And they're big sites)
 
Anonymous
Yeah that's probably it
 
Anonymous
6:10 AM
PhysicsOverflow
 
Anonymous
They broke off from SE, but use the SE software
 
@somebody that'd be me
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I don't think so.
 
Bonus level: chat.ppcg.lol
Boss level: avocad.ppcg.lol
 
@Quill i think you should add a router if you can
 
6:12 AM
Wat
 
i.e. redirect /m to meta, /q/<q_id> to /questions/<q_id> etc
 
It's done at a DNS level redirect
You can't have subdomains like that with a dns redirect
 
Still partying?
 
2ndmonitor.lol
 
@DJMcGoathem 2 or 3 letters might be acceptable. Then we'd tie with Tor and Law
 
6:14 AM
Well, 2 letters is a bad idea, since I don't think anyone here would like the name "pp".
 
i don't think 'PPCG' can be golfed down any further
 
Anonymous
We could just be CG
 
lol, needs to be in retina
 
PCG, as appears on our favicon, hurts my life.
 
Anonymous
Most people refer to us as Code Golf and not the full PPCG (regulars aside)
 
6:15 AM
PCG = Puzzling Code Golf
 
@Mego computer graphics
 
@somebody I guess tying with beer and pets isn't so bad
 
@Mego but it's inaccurate D:
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. Luckily we only have to put up with it for 6-8 more weeks
 
@somebody There's probably a Mathematica builtin that beats it.
 
6:16 AM
@somebody Not really
 
Anonymous
We could be Code Puzzles, and be cp.stackexchange.com! Wait... Nevermind.
 
@AlexA. well, it's not entirely accurate
 
It's no more inaccurate than "Programming Puzzles & Code Golf," which will close any programming puzzle as off topic and downvote it into the depths of hell.
 
@Mego MODS!
 
What do you define as a "programming puzzle"?
 
Anonymous
6:17 AM
See I was actually serious about the suggestion until I saw the URL
 
Anonymous
And then thought better about it
 
I'm glad you did think better about it.
 
@Hosch250 a programming challenge with a clearly defined goal and scoring system
 
You could get CodeFatBlasters
 
What was that super starred message @Doo made once? No offence but I'm hoping the graduation message beats it.
 
@somebody No, that's a code challenge.
 
oh
then we should be cccg?
 
Nov 12 '15 at 22:26, by Doorknob
okay seriously stop abusing stars
 
I don't even know what a "programming puzzle" is (it was a tag once that meant something special)
 
6:18 AM
75 stars
 
@AlexA. yeesh
 
Cops and robbers was killed?
 
Nope
 
@AlexA. Wait, isn't that the record for the SO chat?
 
We beat their record
 
Anonymous
6:19 AM
@Quill You mean this beta site with terrible stats, or the 2 closed versions before it?
 
@Hosch250 It wasn't killed, it kinda...just...starved.
 
Holy smokes, how did that get 75 stars?
 
Star abuse
 
Anonymous
@Calvin'sHobbies The Tetris GOL one would be the best example
 
Irony
 
6:20 AM
Remember, I was going to post the cops and robbers Trumps and Immigrants.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies It still is a tag and its meaning hasn't changed
 
Except I was told I couldn't reference the Trumps.
 
@Mego tetris gol one?
 
@Hosch250 Why not? When was this?
 
Anonymous
@Hosch250 The issue with that one was not because of CnR being dead, but because ಠ_ಠ
 
6:21 AM
A while back.
 
Anonymous
@somebody highest voted unanswered
 
@Mego Cause of what?
 
@somebody ...you contributed to solving that one.
 
Anonymous
49
Q: Build a working game of Tetris in Conway's Game of Life

Joe Z.Here is a theoretical question - one that doesn't afford an easy answer in any case, not even the trivial one. In Conway's Game of Life, there exist constructs such as the metapixel which allow the Game of Life to simulate any other Game-of-Life rule system as well. In addition, it is known that...

 
Anonymous
@Hosch250 It was very politically-charged and not a good fit for our politically-unaffiliated site
 
6:22 AM
oh
 
Oh, I know that.
I thought you were referring to a certain user related to cops and robbers in general.
 
Anonymous
@DJMcGoathem In my defense, I downvoted that one in the sandbox
 
Someone should invent a language called "trump" that prints random ignorant quotes during runtime and ignores half the input of functions. — Jean-Paul Dec 25 '15 at 21:46
hahahahaha
 
@El'endiaStarman progress kinda stopped
 
Anonymous
6:23 AM
@phase man fix your online ide
 
@Mego commands.md has an outline of what you need
 
@somebody It's only temporary.
 
@AquaTart I believe it is already implemented
 
@Mego I wouldn't have minded, as long as it's a valid challenge and all. Bringing up politics might get Hosch lots of downvotes but that's their decision
 
Anonymous
@phase I found that after trawling through o.c and posting my answer
 
Anonymous
6:25 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies It could have easily been completely unrelated to politics
 
@Mego wait why is my language relevant after 5 months?
 
@Mego No, I meant the 102 year old turtle living in Singapore Zoo with the same name.
 
Anonymous
@phase Because it's always relevant <3 also there was a trivial challenge and I wanted to post a bunch of answers for the silver code golf badge (which I got thanks to O)
 
Anonymous
@Quill Oh neat I should go to Singapore
 
@Mego O, you're whalecone.
 
Anonymous
6:26 AM
But seriously fix your IDE
 
> whalecone
 
Yeah, they're a cool species but they're going extinct
 
Anonymous
Or better, make an internet-safe version of O and have Dennis add it to TIO
 
SAVE THE WHALECONES.
 
internet-safe?
 
6:27 AM
@Mego it works
 
Anonymous
No file I/O, no network access, no eval/execing user code in the mother language unless it is also safe
 
@phase presumably that means one that can be run via python/command-line
 
@somebody What are you responding to? (You know you can respond to individual messages by clicking the little arrow on the far right of them)
 
Anonymous
@phase Try j.1\/^ with input 5 in the IDE
 
@somebody um... what...? It's written in C and anyone could have been able to run it for like 8 months.
 
Anonymous
6:29 AM
It's easy enough to run
 
Anonymous
It's just not safe because file I/O (unless that's disabled in oide and I missed it)
 
@Mego ^ was never reimplemented when we switch to the C interpreter. I think the issue's still open.
 
Anonymous
@phase It worked in the REPL
 
@Mego I think it is
ohhhhh
It's not updated
 
Anonymous
y u no automatic pull and build
 
6:31 AM
because Heroku won't pull submodules unless you manually push
 
Anonymous
Oh that's lame
 
I had a big fight with Heroku support on that one
 
@Quill Just like crusty Fortran programmers.
 
Anonymous
Couldn't you just add something like os.system('git submodule init && git submodule update') in the flask script?
 
@phase Did you end up sleeping on the couch or were you able to reconsile and cuddle?
 
6:32 AM
@Mego -__________________________-
 
@AlexA. just like PHP
 
Anonymous
if not os.listdir('libregexp'): os.system('git submodule init && git submodule update')
 
@AlexA. I said "hey cn u do dis" and they said "no bro we cnt"
@Mego why couldn't you do that last year ;-;
 
ll
 
@Quill \\
 
6:33 AM
@Quill I want to see PHP burned in effigy
 
Anonymous
@phase I didn't know you were having the issue
 
@phase #tragic
 
@Mego I told you like twice c'mmmon man get it together you delicious albino penguin
 
haha wtf
 
@AlexA. I have the php bronze bagel on CR, i feel privileged enough to hate on php X)
 
6:34 AM
why use #tags we we have
 
Anonymous
I do not recall this
 
Anonymous
Because Alex is lazy
 
^
 
@Quill I tried to learn PHP but it was such garbage that I stopped trying and decided I'd rather not know.
 
Anonymous
Also @phase I'm finally making Seriously v2.0
 
Anonymous
6:35 AM
And I don't give a damn about backwards compatibility and it's great
 
But seriously, C++ is gotta be the new emerging web technology
 
Duality
 
By PHP, you don't mean the language, do you? I thought that thing was banished to hell with the rest of languages that cost companies billions of sheckles.
 
@⌨🔥 (testing alternate ping system)
5
 
6:36 AM
@Mego Seriously 2: Seriouser
 
@Mego you sound like Sony and Microsoft
 
2 Golfed 2 Seriously
 
Anonymous
Nah Python is the new web tech. It can be used for both front-end and back-end
 
@AlexA. Geobits + DJMcGoathem = duality
 
Seriously 2.0: Actually not compatible, update your code plebs.
 
6:37 AM
@Quill what about webassembly?
 
Anonymous
Brython on the front, Flask on the back, it's amazing
 
@somebody He uses the fancy fake icon though :P
 
@somebody what about it?
 
wut is this "Brython"?
 
Anonymous
 
6:37 AM
Bro python
 
I would google it, but I've got like 20 tabs open on stack overflow
 
Anonymous
 
hopes webassembly > c++ as emerging web technology
 
Wait is Jelly an actual code page?
 
Anonymous
Sort of
 
Anonymous
6:38 AM
It uses a unique code page, which I manually added
 
I want to use the Jolteon stack sometime
 
What is that
 
A pokemon iirc
 
gotta catch them all, swine flue!
 
It's the electric Eevee... geez
 
@Mego D: you can't manually edit output?
 
Anonymous
@somebody Nah, I disabled that for some dumb reason
 
On another Pokemon note: Blue, Red and Yellow are available on the 3DS eShop now
 
@Quill Looks pretty neat but surely the name Jolteon is under copyright...
 
Where does one get their usercard image?
 
6:41 AM
@AlexA. meh
 
Anytime I don't know an answer on a test I always resort to Pokemon answers. What did ancient artists call humans, and what did it mean? ____: ____ ____Pokemon: Pocket Monster
 
@Calvin'sHobbies stackexchange profile, flair tab
 
@Quill I'm tempted... I'll probably wait until my kid's off his electronics ban, though. That would be kinda like rubbing salt in the wound.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Office Depot
@Geobits Uh oh. What'd Minibits do?
 
@Quill Thanks!
 
6:42 AM
He finally figured it was time to try lying about schoolwork. It had to happen at some point ;)
 
Anonymous
@somebody There now you can edit the output
 
@phase I'm still trying to figure out what the answer should be.
 
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman Digimon: Digital Monsters
 
Assuming that was an actual test question...
 
@El'endiaStarman I forget, and the question was a little more specific.
yeah, I took it yesterday. Let's just say I didn't get an A... or a B..... or a C......
 
6:45 AM
@Mego Every four years or so I get the theme song stuck in my head for a full week. On a related note, dammit.
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. <3
 
@Mego Poke >> Digi
 
Anonymous
@Calvin'sHobbies I agree. But I was making a joek
 
@AlexA. Every four years?? I get that at least once a month.
 
Anonymous
6:46 AM
@Geobits He also doesn't have children
 
@phase Ooh, that's cool.
 
I don't remember it but I'm super scared to look it up now.
 
@Mego No, I can't blame the mini for this one. It's been happening since long before he came around :)
 
Anonymous
Lol, I used to be super into Digimon
 
Not the Digi song in particular, just some song. I guess I should've clarified...
 
Anonymous
6:47 AM
But that was 15 years ago
 
Anonymous
OG4life
 
Anonymous
I constantly have a song stuck in my head
 
I never got into digi. Pokelife
 
Anonymous
The only way to get it out is to listen to it repeatedly until I hate it
 
I basically never notice when I don't have a song in my head. :P
 
Anonymous
6:48 AM
Same
 
Anonymous
My brain is just constantly playing music
 
I'm trying to figure out what it is now...
 
The worst part is when someone asks what you were humming (or sub whatever noises you make) and you have no idea.
 
I know it's a Two Steps from Hell song, but which album and song?!
 
Anonymous
It's really strange when it's February and I have Christmas music stuck in my head
 
6:49 AM
I had Jingle Bell Rock the other day for some reason.
 
Anonymous
Which is why I'm listening to Trans-Siberian Orchestra at 1 AM on February 24th
 
To the heathens who indent JavaScript with tabs, I give you standardjs.com
 
Doing anything in JS is heathenistic, though, so why not go all out?
 
 
Anonymous
> No semicolons
 
6:50 AM
Ooooh IR pic
 
Anonymous
ಠ_ಠ
 
tree in infrared
 
I modded a camera for IR pics once. Much fun.
 
Such amuse
 
9 hours ago, by El'endia Starman
TIL about the Wood effect.
 
6:52 AM
14
Q: Is it possible that by mutation human could see infrared or other 'colours'?

Marijn Incoming light reacts with the several types of cone cells in the eye. In humans, there are three types of cones sensitive to three different spectra, resulting in trichromatic color vision. Each individual cone contains pigments composed of opsin apoprotein, which is covalently linked to eithe...

 
TIL there's a name for that thing I did.
 
@El'endiaStarman this was in my hot question list
I assume we followed the same path?
 
Yep, that's how I saw it.
 
^^
 
:D
Notation/syntax question: how would you denote that one variable is linked to another, such that when one variable changes, the other does too?
 
6:53 AM
=
 
I.e., let's say I \link(a,b=3*a). Then if I set a=5, b is 15 automatically.
 
by the way
I think pytek is a unfortunate name IMO
 
Oh, that's not the case I had in mind.
 
any project starting with py people will associate with python
 
Well, it is written in Python...and borrows a number of ideas...
And I like Python... :P
 
6:55 AM
for example, let's say I want to make a Python library to manage prostitutes, I'd name it pymp
6
 
@El'endiaStarman b seems more like a function in this case. Maybe borrow some math notation?
 
@orlp ಠ_ಠ
 
@AlexA. Oh come on, that wasn't deserved :P
 
@Geobits How do you mean?
 
edited the joke into one line
 
6:56 AM
@Geobits Lenny faces, disapproval faces, and shrugs are always warranted.
 
I really should rename to ಠrlp
 
@El'endiaStarman I don't know math notation very well, but I assume they have something for it. Because it's essentially b=f(3*a) imo.
 
@orlp so the file would by pymp.py ?
 
@Geobits Well, yes. Programming languages treat functions a little differently though.
 
@Optimizer yeah, like pyth.py, and pl.pl
 
6:58 AM
What about something to hack our network? It could be python.
@El'endiaStarman Do they? In most I'm familiar with, you'd make b point to a function to "link" it like that.
 
I could do b := a*3, but I worry that people will read := wrong because it's the equivalent of = in most languages.
 
@El'endiaStarman the 'link' you say is something that has no place in a programming language IMO
 
@Geobits And I'd have to call that function every time I needed it.
 
Well, yes, basically.
 
it's magical and there's no guarantee that it's satisfiable
 
Anonymous
6:59 AM
@El'endiaStarman Maybe a -> b?
 

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