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6:01 PM
TIL what a wovel is.
 
I think I just messed up a review.
I forgot about that 1k user thing
 
@PhiNotPi That ... that is actually really cool.
 
@MartinBüttner haha, you knew what I was doing XD
Does anyone know where there is a daily vote limit?
*why
 
Mainly to limit vote spam and stuff.
Otherwise somebody'll write an auto-downvote-everything script.
 
That's what I thought. Anyone think that it should be increased due to the amount of answers per question?
@StewieGriffin You say "no input"; does this mean I can ask for input and that effectively stops the program?
 
6:14 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ, no. :/ I'm sorry...
 
hehe :)
 
That makes a BF solution that much harder XD
hiya @Cyoce
 
That was part of the reason for the 15 limit. I figured an infinite printer would be trivial in some languages (I'm not sure which, but I guess there are some).
 
Lenguage, of course :P
 
6:20 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ hi @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ
 
@StewieGriffin I'm working on a pure BF solution :P
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Good luck with that! =)
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That's interesting.
 
Thanks!
Nice job on the original win
BF code grows exponentially
sad
 
6:36 PM
@PhiNotPi TILT (today I learned too). Cool!
 
@ThomasKwa That's a really sneaky solution. Nice.
 
Challenge idea: given an input number n, output the number of cells used in the optimal BF representation of that number.
 
"optimal BF representain" = shortest BF program outputting that number?
 
hey all!
 
6:41 PM
hiya!
 
Bah, optimal is a pain in the button for any classical computer. The problem is always the same, too many representation possibilities, though this is mitigated in BF
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ This could be an interesting one. Sandbox it!
 
how many answers to a challenge is good?
 
Hey @TanMath
 
@El'endiaStarman \o/
 
6:41 PM
@Sherlock9 hey! long time no see!
 
@TanMath My challenges have gotten anywhere from a few to several dozen answers.
 
@Sherlock9 Yeah, true.
 
Harder challenges usually have fewer answers, and vice versa.
 
@El'endiaStarman what is few? like 3?
 
You should really update your old Bernoulli answer @TanMath. I've long since beaten it ;)
 
6:42 PM
Yeah, thereabouts.
 
ok... I thought three is too little...
@Sherlock9 what is there to update it?
 
@TanMath Three good answers is enough for a difficult challenge.
 
@TanMath @MartinBüttner 's challenge about the Forgotten Realms still has only one answer so far; mine
 
@ThomasKwa I do not think it os difficult
 
An easy challenge will have a votes-to-answer ratio (VtA) with VtA < 1.
Medium challenges have VtA in [2,4)
Hard challenges have VtA close to V.
2
Estimating.
 
6:44 PM
@TanMath There's a number of good suggestions in the comments of your answer to start
 
oh...
@Sherlock9 you are wrong, it works
 
@TimmyD Thanks.
 
the decimal amount is correct at least...
 
It works, but it could be better, is all I'm saying
But never mind all that. How have you been
 
@Sherlock9 but not better than yours!
 
6:46 PM
Fair enough :P
 
I might update if I have the time...
Here is a shameless advertisement to those who might be looking to please answers this question:
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Q: Play the word chain

TanMathWhen I was younger, I use to play a word game called Word chain. It was very simple. The first player chooses a word; the next player says another word that starts with the same letter the previous word ended with. This goes on forever until somebody gives up! Trick is, you cannot use the same wo...

 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ does it work now? please please please
 
I wouldn't have noticed the link if it didn't die XD
Give me an example program?
I forgot PlatyPar :I
 
I'm talking about the markdown button
you said it didn't work on your computer
 
Oh
It doesn't work on IE.
 
6:52 PM
nothing works on IE
 
yeah
I use IE, and that's why doesn't work :P
*on my school tablet
 
ok
great life advice: don't use IE
 
I signed a contract.
There's the anti-modification clause >_<
 
that makes you use IE? how cruel
 
It makes me not download alternate browsers, and I'm on windows.
If someone makes a fully functional, ES6 compatible, javascript-based browser that works in IE, I will love you >_<
 
6:55 PM
But IE is the #1 browser for download another browser! A contract saying you can't download another is blasphemous!
 
so some guy just basically golfed my answer and posted it for the atbash challenge...what should I do?
 
*that I can't modify it.
@TanMath lemme look
'tis my challenge
 
@TanMath hunt him down
 
@TanMath: Here is my shotgun. Use it well. You are read. reloads shotgun
 
thanks!
no seriously, what can I do?
 
6:57 PM
I don't think there is anything you can do.
 
I was just about to write it down after confirming it is a valid python statement and test it. But he already did it.
 
Oh, hm...
Recruit Dennis?
Outgolf him!
 
I just feel sad that I just lost the opportunity to beat a language and now somebody who wrote almost just what I was going to write beat me in my language
so there is seriously nothing I can do...huh?
whatever...
 
You could point at that there is already a similar answer, but I think that claim would only be valid in the case that his code was longer.
Let's ask @PeterTaylor.
He's very insightful in these subjects.
 
But do you really think that a golfed down version of my program is fair to be posted, that too mot as a community wiki? he should have just told me how to golf down my language...
 
7:01 PM
He is a new user
ish
 
he is...
I just reviewed that post as his first post...
 
o_O How does he have 103 rep, then?
*had
 
because of an association bonus and he probably edited a post.
 
Good job, he deleted his post o-o
 
When I joined, I was at 103 for a long time. Then, just two-three months ago, I started posting answers.
 
7:03 PM
For future reference, you should a) link the relevant post and b) Be a little less... blunt, to the new users.
@TanMath huh!
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ok...i was too blunt? was I scary or what?
 
Blunt, yes. Scary? Maybe to a new user to the SE network. I know I wouldn't have been offended/scared, merely "Oh god whoops".
I have a friend who didn't like this site because he got such a comment.
I forgot from whom, but he deleted his account.
 
oh... Then I wish I could say sorry... I didn't mean to scare anybody...
And I was just trying to be straightforward
 
You were.
And I'm not shaming you or anything, you didn't necessarily scare anyone, it's just that it had the potential of.
 
so I was supposed to be more indirect?
 
7:07 PM
Perhaps a "Welcome to PPCG" or something :P
o_o
He just posted 3 answers 20 hours ago
on SO
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ oh... I totally forgot about that. Next I comd across a new post of his, I will do so for sure.
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴNumber of cells used in optimal BF representation of a constant Relavent. Your task is deceptively simple. Given a number n (or a character C with char code value n in your encoding), output the number of cells utilized in the optimal representation of that number n in a standard Brainf*** inte...

 
7:24 PM
@TanMath That answer was a whopping 30% shorter than yours, making it IMO sufficiently different to warrant a separate answer.
 
peace out y'all
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ bye...
@Dennis oh, i did not know that...
@Dennis now, what if the change is 3%?
 
I think this is rather difficult to quantify. If the 3% stems from replacing a tiny part of the code with a slightly shorter part, it's probably too similar. If the whole code is different, even 1 byte can be a significant improvement.
 
Really @Dennis?
I don't think that counts as spam.
 
What? I didn't do anything.
 
7:36 PM
A Pyth deminifier would be great
Something like
 
Then why were you the most recently active user in this room, and why was my message deleted???
:P
 
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'Fess up @Dennis.
 
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A: Atbash Self Palindromes

TanMathPython, 156 112 bytes a=map(chr,range(65,91)) s=raw_input().upper() print ''.join([dict(zip(a,a[::-1])).get(i,i) for i in s])==s[::-1] Basically, it makes a dictionary of the translation with uppercase letters and the input is capitalized (if everything were lowercase instead, that would add 5...

 
whoops, I forgot the spaces between the first tokens
 
7:38 PM
@RikerW Weird coincidence.
 
I do not know how to get 108, but I am close... I will figure it out
 
Is it just me, because I can't see any identicons, not @TanMath or @ThomasKwa's ???
 
@RikerW just you
 
Okay.
 
what are you using? IE??
 
7:39 PM
Maybe the PPCG userscipr thing???
Chrome 47 on OS X 10.8.5.
 
Oh... I bet it would be worse on IE!
 
lol
 
even safari is better! I am currently using safari
 
Yeah, it seems to be on the fritz. it isn't working for question pages, only for the main page.
The userscript i mean.
 
there were some oldies who used to be here...like feersum and VisualMelon...Out of the original gang, mainly trichoplax and Martin have stayed
 
7:45 PM
@RikerW The userscript has been fixed, try getting the latest version.
 
Okay.
 
nostalgia
 
Wow, can't see yours either. :P
brb
Nope, not fixed.
Yeah, still not fixed.
Oh, the question pages are fixed, but still not the identicons.
 
@TanMath In addition to the comment I left on your answer, please consider treating the (completely valid) first post of a new user a bit friendlier next time. You can't know if they came up with the same approach independently, and even if they didn't, neither of your answers is competitive enough to win.
Also I'd probably personally consider a 33% improvement substantial enough to warrant a separate answer in any case (unless those 33% come from improving the compression of a single string, say).
In any case, I think there's more harm done in putting off a new user than in getting beaten with your own idea once.
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@MartinBüttner so what are you working on these days in esolang land
 
7:58 PM
triangles
it's going slow though
 
Whee!!!
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A: Print 1 to 15, using different printers

RikerWPython 2, 202 - 10 = 192 bytes a= ['if num==15:print"STOP!!!";exit()','print num','print"a=",a','print"num=",num+1', 'for s in a:print s'] num= 1 print num if num==15:print"STOP!!!";exit() print"a=",a print"num=",num+1 for s in a:print s Never going to win, but fun. :P Without the bonus: 176 ...

 
I spent the last few days on some long-needed Retina features
 
Shameless self promotion. :P
 
@MartinBüttner I read one of your answers demonstrating said features. seems p cool. what is triangles?
 
polygons with three vertices.
 
8:00 PM
lol
 
and three sides and three angles, always convex, 2-simplices
and...usually unrelated to esolangs
 
well, it's all still very much on paper. and probably slightly too ambitious which is why I'm not making much progress. anyway, I don't want to spill too many details at this stage. so triangles ;)
 
does the paper its on include lots of doodles of triangles or triangular grids?
because you really should scan said paper just for our amusement :P
 
a few, but it's mostly words.
 
Are polyiamond tilings turing-complete?
 
8:05 PM
@RikerW What identicons are you talking about?
 
@quintopia I have no clue.
 
@MartinBüttner Are you making triagony?
 
not quite (and I wish people started giving me more credit for the diversity of the names of my languages :P)
although both this language and Hexagony came out of the realisation that there are (were) neither languages on hexagonal nor on triangular grids
I just tackled hexagonal grids first.
 
@MartinBüttner Retagony ;-)
 
How would a tiling be Turing complete?
 
8:10 PM
@PhiNotPi Wang tilings are, I think
 
Briagony & Chuck
 
@MartinBüttner please see my comment
 
Lagonyrinth
 
@MartinBüttner I officially give you credit.
Wait, now I can't see any icons but mine and quintopia's. WTF?
Oh, and Dennis and blockcoder.
 
IDK what is wrong with you
 
8:18 PM
Me neither.
Maybe thanking the bots has something to do with it?
/s
Hey, its back!!!
 
@quartata 100% paper mario (3hr run) in 8 hrs
until then we get mirror's edge and halo 4
 
@PhiNotPi I can see your icon, and @immyD's and @orlp's.
@orlp Mirror's edge?
 
Bad game, awesome graphics at the time, which makes it just a bad game now
 
lol okay
 
8:21 PM
Wasn't that the parkour game?
 
Yes
You got to kill some people too
 
Well, yeah.
I remember my brother liked it. Haven't played it myself.
 
@orlp I know what AGDQ is.
 
@Rainbolt just like regular parkour
 
@orlp O.o
 
8:23 PM
lol
 
I love these reviews on metacritic.
Review 1: Old-style gaming in futuristic shoes [...]
Review 2: If you're looking to try something that's genuinely new and not just a refinement or tweak of some existing genre or play mechanic, you really owe it to yourself to play this.
 
outside of totalbiscuit I don't know any game reviewer I respect
not saying they don't exist
just that I don't know em
 
@PhiNotPi: Hooray, I commited to the Lojban StackExchange thing! °w°
I saw your name on there. And Doorknob's.
 
okay
 
@Mauris fi'i
 
8:26 PM
Area 51 doesn't seem to want to link to my other accounts, though, so it says I have 150 rep?!
 
Doorknob really likes lojban. :P
 
@RikerW Jes, ĝi estas mojosa. Err, wait.
 
@quintopia IIRC Life on a Penrose tiling is TC, and certainly Life on a standard grid is, so I think it's highly likely that there's a cellular automaton on a polyiamond tiling which is TC.
 
I think he is talking about the actual tiling itself. The way Wang Tiles work, it is possible to translate a Turing machine into a set of Wang tiles, so that halting / not halting is translated into periodic / aperiodic tiling.
 
@Mauris Don't know lojban. shrugs and hides from @Doorknob's wrath
 
8:39 PM
@PeterTaylor wait, is the TC'ness of Wang tiles also based on cellular automata? I thought it was more something like the tiling generated by some initial subset of tiles.
 
Wang tiles is based on the tiling generated.
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Q: How to convert a Turing Machine program to a tiling using Wang Tiles?

ndroock1This is a cross-post from a post on MathSE due to lack of answers. To illustrate my question I provide the following example. The website Online Turing Machine provides a Turing Machine simulator. The following program adds 1 to any binary number. q0,1 => q0,1,> q0,0 => q0,0,> q0,_ => q1,_,

^ there's not really a thorough answer there
 
@TanMath It's somewhat moot now :D
 
but there is a useful image
 
@ThomasKwa ah!!!
 
We should create our own conlang.
 
8:45 PM
@MartinBüttner did you even see the comment??
 
@MartinBüttner I expect so, but I don't feel like reading those references, at least not now. My current focus is OEIS A181018...
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

TanMathDo-nothing Polyglot Challenge This challenge requires you to write a polyglot which contains a comment in as many languages as possible. The comment must say This is a polyglot comment. The program must do nothing at all. Besides comments, your code may contain no-ops from the language(s) you...

 
@orlp dammit did I miss the Mirror's Edge run already
I wanted to see that one
@RikerW His message was in Esperanto, not Lojban. Hence "Err, wait"
 
@quartata still goin
 
@orlp ah gud
 
8:55 PM
@quartata almost done doe (like 5-15min)
 
lame just elevators
ah well
I'll catch it on the GDQ archive
 

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