The Nineteenth Byte

PhiNotPi

10:00 PM

My mixtape?

Calvin's Hobbies

@PhiNotPi no

RikerW

Aw..

@Calvin'sHobbies @AlexA.?

Did he do it?

Quill

POINTLESS #102: Thomas Middleditch // Actor & Comedian

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SuperJedi224

Wikipedia probably knows.

Alex A.

That was 101 years before I was born.

Quill

10:00 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies fire?

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PhiNotPi

I just got the most useless feedback ever from a TA on a compsci assignment:

RikerW

^^

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. I learned it in Washington history class ;P

PhiNotPi

> Understanding how java works also helps you to be efficient. I would suggest whenever you code, try to realize what is going on behind the scene.

Doorknob

> behind the scene

Anonymous

10:01 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies Not Billy Joel

RikerW

@PhiNotPi My stupidest was "Your code is too long". :P

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies I probably did but it's been too long. u_u

RikerW

@Calvin'sHobbies Are you a Washingtonian?

Calvin's Hobbies

@RikerW I was born and raised there

RikerW

@CharlesKoppelman TELL US NOW

@Calvin'sHobbies Okay.

PhiNotPi

10:02 PM

Woo! I got chapel to do a distributed task across two computers.

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. It was a boiling pot of glue!

RikerW

@PhiNotPi wat?

Calvin's Hobbies

That boiled over and stuff

RikerW

@Calvin'sHobbies WTF?

Alex A.

@TimmyD According to Quora, Politico has a slight tilt to the right, so I choose to disregard everything it has to say. :P

@Calvin'sHobbies That sounds familiar.

PhiNotPi

10:03 PM

@RikerW Chapel the programming language, made by Cray for stuff like cluster computing: chapel.cray.com

Alex A.

They were probably trying to boil some glue for a sweet huff fest

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RikerW

@PhiNotPi Okay.

GTG now I think...

IDK.

Justin

I had some TAs say this (regarding Java's regular expressions):

RikerW

BRB

Justin

> The "." character may vary between machines, so I would not rely on that always working. Instead use the less ambiguous "[^\\n]" which literally means "anything but the endline character."

PhiNotPi

10:04 PM

I basically have a 6-core laptop now. (If addition works that way.)

Roujo

@PhiNotPi For embarrassingly parallel values of addition, it does work that way! =D

Justin

The TA somehow thinks that Java is not platform independent....

Anonymous

@Justin Wow that's dumb. What about Windows machines, that use \r\n?

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. WA is chill like that

^ loled when I saw those last time I was in Seattle

Alex A.

I guess they have a stop right outside of my girlfriend's mom's office. XD

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

10:07 PM

KotH idea: billiards.

flawr

or minigolf?=)

PhiNotPi

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That might actually be interesting...

Calvin's Hobbies

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ But you need physics engine :/

Justin

@Mego Honestly, I don't care. I just use . and Java takes care of it for me.

The TAs concern was spawned by this stackoverflow question, which really says that . does not match unprintable characters by default, and also the Java documentation which says that the dot matches "[a]ny character (may or may not match line terminators)". But finding that confusing means that one doesn't understand the Java documentation, since it is clearly stated that . matches newlines only with the proper flag.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies I've been working it out myself. It doesn't seem too hard, unless I add spin.

The cue ball travels along a line parallel to the tangent line of the contact point of the two balls, and the other ball travels in a perpendicular line.

It doesn't sound too hard.

PhiNotPi

10:10 PM

Since individual moves are "real numbers" (force & angle) it might prevent the "typical" approaches, like game trees and stuff.

Alex A.

PhiNotPi

-1 not a gif

Doorknob

> WeirdPoolTableInGarden.jpg

Justin

@AlexA. Should make that a swimming pool with a pool cover... and trick someone to go and walk on it.

Alex A.

@Justin >:D

mınxomaτ

10:11 PM

@AlexA. That's a bad idea. Basically the balls just break on first contact.

RikerW

@Justin Been there done that. :P

Really.

Alex A.

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RikerW

Well, with tarp-like cover thing.

mınxomaτ

Source:

Pool Bowling with Hugh Jackman

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Justin

@RikerW You made a pool that looks like a pool table and put on a pool cover which shows a game of pool?

Calvin's Hobbies

10:12 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Would the exact locations of all the balls be known? In that case near optimal play may be easy for a computer

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies Um... yeah, I guess.

RikerW

@Justin It naturally looks like pool tableish.

flawr

@trichoplax Are you sure you wanted to post that comment to my challenge?

RikerW

Plus a green/gray cover.

mınxomaτ

Probably WinPoolGame[GetBoard] in Mathematica.

Alex A.

10:14 PM

Not long enough

WinARousingGameOfBilliards[Table]

mınxomaτ

WinPoolGame[GetBoard]+Humiliate[Opponent]

FlagAsSpam

What is this:

zeroturnaround.com/software/jrebel/jrebelrocks/tshirt-promo/…

RikerW

Do we have a sokoban challenge?

PhiNotPi

Probably multiple

RikerW

I have an idea for a koth.

Doorknob

10:15 PM

@RikerW I had an idea for that a long time ago but I never made it

RikerW

@FlagAsSpam An add-on for a hopeless language.

@Doorknob Okay.

PhiNotPi

How about quantum billiards?

Doorknob

> A addon

RikerW

Cause I died in nethack sokoban.

@Doorknob Package then?

PhiNotPi

The exact positions of the balls are not known.

FlagAsSpam

10:16 PM

@RikerW Hey - I like Java. o-o

Doorknob

@Doorknob That was an phrase in an sentence said by RIkerW

RikerW

@FlagAsSpam That is sad. :P

FlagAsSpam

@RikerW -.-

RikerW

@Doorknob Yes... Your point?

Alex A.

It's wrong

Doorknob

10:16 PM

@RikerW I have an point that an person can see in an message that I wrote

RikerW

add-on?

I am hopeless too I fear.

Alex A.

"Addon" is not a word, and any word that begins with a vowel should be preceded by "an," not "a."

Doorknob

That was a edit that did not fix a error in an message

Alex A.

An add-on

RikerW

Finally got it, and with 7 seconds left of editing.

Bai now to play nethack.

And die.

Calvin's Hobbies

10:18 PM

Before the topic ascends to transcriptland, what do non-US countries call grade/college levels? (@Dennis @Sp3000)

FlagAsSpam

Addon

Addon (Hebrew: אַדּוֹן‎)- low, one of the persons named in the Neh. 7:61 who could not "shew their father's house" on the return from captivity. This, with similar instances (ver. 63), indicates the importance the Jews attached to their genealogies. == References == This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Easton, Matthew George (1897). "Addon". Easton's Bible Dictionary (New and revised ed.). T. Nelson and Sons....

PhiNotPi

I've actually been trying to figure out how to simulate quantum mechanics. My google-fu has been weak: I've found a ton of stuff about quantum computers (related, but not what I'm looking for) and the original (thus extremely outdated) Feynman paper about using computers to simulate physics.

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies I am going to steal the phrase "ascends to transcriptland"

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:D

RikerW

^^

Alex A.

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RikerW

10:19 PM

WTF?

Alex A.

Just before we deviate too far from pool

RikerW

That looks stupid.

No offense would-be suiciders.

Doorknob

Alex A.

Doorknob

Anonymous

10:21 PM

This is unbearable

Doorknob

@Mego Bear with me here

quartata

stop the bear puns I can't bear it any longer

Alex A.

No need to get grizzley with us, @quartata.

Roujo

Wow. I step away for 10 minutes, only to come back and lose all bearings >_<

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quartata

@AlexA. Stop panda-ing to your audience with all these bear puns

RikerW

10:24 PM

^

Charles Koppelman

@RikerW What is this in reference to?

FlagAsSpam

You're making me furryous.

RikerW

@CharlesKoppelman Oops.

It was meant for calvin.

Sorry.

@Roujo *sanity

Alex A.

*boomerangs

RikerW

IDK I wanted to type stupid stuff

Calvin's Hobbies

10:25 PM

pool bear is almost an anagram of blooper

Alex A.

Roujo

@Calvin'sHobbies It's also a palindrome if you're drunk enough<

RikerW

My house is on fire cause burping is illegal...

Alex A.

@Roujo hahaha

RikerW

@Roujo <?

Alex A.

10:26 PM

Granted, anything becomes a palindrome when one loses the ability to spell. :P

RikerW

~~>><><><><>><><~~

Anonymous

All these puns are bearly necessary

RikerW

^

Roujo

@RikerW Is that APL for the Bear function?

Geobits

I never knew puns were so polarizing...

quartata

10:27 PM

I have a sudden craving for salmon and whales

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RikerW

@Roujo Yes,.

@quartata Glad to hear it. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wtaf is going on

RikerW

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Hell in chat.

quartata

@Geobits damn I was trying to figure out a way to do that one

well played

Roujo

Puns are like bear in that both dissolve in water.

quartata

10:27 PM

I think we've used most of the well-known bears.

El'endia Starman

Google’s AI Masters the Game of Go a Decade Earlier Than Expected :O

Alex A.

Roujo

Or neither. It's a polarized joke, but I don't remember enough Chemistry to tell.

quartata

Time to let some of the other bears have their time in the sun

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@RikerW mm

quartata

10:28 PM

get it because sun bears

ha

...

flawr

May I ask for some opinions on an apparently contraversial challenge in the sandbox of mine?

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Washingtonian-patriot-quiz-2: Name 5 types of salmon.

quartata

@Doorknob I don't know if you saw this but:

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies King, sockeye

quartata

in Charcoal HQ, 18 hours ago, by Minestrone

The websocket leaks the identity of the last flagger.

Alex A.

10:28 PM

uh

quartata

I'm seeing spam flags?

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. yes

Sp3000

@Calvin'sHobbies North atlantic, south atlantic, pacific, arctic and indian?

quartata

Coho, Pacific, Atlantic, Sockeye and Chinook

Not even a Washingtonian

Calvin's Hobbies

Coho, Chinook, Pink (though Coho or Chinook might be the same as King, I forget)

quartata

10:30 PM

jeez @AlexA. get your act together

you just got out-played by a Californian

Calvin's Hobbies

@quartata Good

Alex A.

My family didn't eat seafood growing up so I don't know my fish

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies yay I won

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. You didn't even try fish once for the halibut?

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Alex A.

God DAMN that's a bad pun

FlagAsSpam

10:31 PM

GUYS.

coen.boisestate.edu/ece/files/2013/05/…

Doorknob

@quartata It was on the starboard; of course I saw it :P

FlagAsSpam

Someone made a Beowulf cluster out of Rπs and got the same speed as a supercomputer. :D

Alex A.

What's a Beowulf cluster

Roujo

@Doorknob And now I just realized why the list of starred comments is on the right. Thanks! =D

Anonymous

Bubba on Shrimp - Forrest Gump (3/9) Movie CLIP (1994) HD

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quartata

10:33 PM

Beowulf cluster

A Beowulf cluster is a computer cluster of what are normally identical, commodity-grade computers networked into a small local area network with libraries and programs installed which allow processing to be shared among them. The result is a high-performance parallel computing cluster from inexpensive personal computer hardware. The name Beowulf originally referred to a specific computer built in 1994 by Thomas Sterling and Donald Becker at NASA. The name "Beowulf" comes from the main character in the Old English epic poem Beowulf, which Sterling chose because the poem describes its eponymous hero...

FlagAsSpam

Ninjago'd.

Thrice.

Roujo

Dammit =P

RikerW

Triple ninjas are epic. :P

quartata

@FlagAsSpam nice I remember seeing something similar with PS3s a long time ago

RikerW

And @quartata is the winner!

quartata

10:34 PM

back when they could have Linux on them

FlagAsSpam

@quartata I wanna do this with some Rπ0s. When I'm living on my own. $500 -> Supercomputer.

Sp3000

@Calvin'sHobbies Much delayed answer regarding college/uni levels: 1st year, 2nd year...

quartata

I forgot they're like $5 now.

I might try to build one actually

Calvin's Hobbies

@Sp3000 For college? What if you're a phd student in your 8th year or something?

Sp3000

I don't think there's a specific word for that - you just say you're a PhD student and people ask how long you've been at it for?

FlagAsSpam

10:38 PM

Duuuuude, imagine TryItOnline running off one of those. :o

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o-O

El'endia Starman

@Calvin'sHobbies People say that in the USA too, right?

flawr

May I ask for some opinions on a controversial sandbox challenge of mine?

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. You ask us some WA trivia then

Alex A.

What's the northernmost city in Washington?

FlagAsSpam

10:40 PM

@flawr I like it - it has criteria enough to make it a coding challenge, and then the popularity contest comes into play when you have the people voting for good looking output. +1, would vote against closing.

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Point Richards? Nah probly not. Osooyous? (cant spell that one)

Anonymous

@flawr I think people would let the stigma against popcons overshadow the quality of the challenge, and close it as too broad. I wouldn't vote to close it, and I'd vote to reopen if it got closed.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies I thought it was Blaine but I don't actually know.

FlagAsSpam

^^

Sp3000

@flawr Personally, I think it's fine. Would not really vote either way

trichoplax

10:42 PM

@flawr Sorry for unhelpful comments. I tried to think of a way of making the challenge less broad but I couldn't, so instead I just wanted to see if people agreed that it would be too broad in case it needed to be narrowed before posting to main. I'm probably too tired to be trying to judge it at the moment

Calvin's Hobbies

Oh, I meant Point Roberts, and Osoyoos is fully in BC :/

Sp3000

WA trivia: What's the capital of Western Australia?

Perth

Australiland

Australopithacus

10:43 PM

10 points for Alex!

Anonymous

@Sp3000 A kangaroo

Sp3000

D:

Alex A.

Western Australia is bestern Australia.

(I say, never having been to Australia)

Sp3000

If you had you wouldn't be saying that :P

flawr

@trichoplax It was indeed helpful as I was not aware of the downvotes, and also not of the bad reputation that popularity contests apparently have.

FlagAsSpam

10:45 PM

> The origin of the name Osoyoos was the word sẁiẁs

O.O

flawr

Up to now I thought that popcons are usually very welcome

Alex A.

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A: Things to avoid when writing challenges

Popularity Contests Popularity contests, while allowed, are heavily disfavored by site culture. You're likely better off reworking your challenge to use an objective winning criterion that isn't votes, such as code golf or fastest code. That is, unless you're an experienced user who knows when t...

Anonymous

@AlexA. The challenge in question fits the requirements in that post for having a chance at being good

Alex A.

I know, I'm just showing flawr that the community's general opinion of popcons has soured

That said, @flawr, I do think your challenge is interesting.

Anonymous

A big part of the souring was caused by an influx of objectively-bad popcons

Calvin's Hobbies

10:49 PM

@AlexA. Whats the best Chinook Jargon word?

Alex A.

Skookum

Calvin's Hobbies

PPCG is so skookum than CodeReview. We skookum them all into the skookum skookum.

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Alex A.

Well said

flawr

I was aware of the discussion about the validity criterion, but did not have the impression that they are so controversioal

Ok, the popcons that did NOT get closed seem to be quite popular: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/popularity-contest

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Alex A.

10:59 PM

The thing is, when a popcon is done well, it can be a really nice challenge. (Example: Voronoi maps.) But it's really difficult to make a good popcon. They're much harder to do well than other challenge types.

flawr

feature-request Introduce a vote-to-close-moratorium-vote

trichoplax

I love popularity contests when done well. It's always sad to see a sandbox post that receives very little negative feedback, then gets closed when it goes to main. It's the one challenge type for which the sandbox can be misleading because a flurry of upvotes doesn't give an accurate impression of its reception on main

Anonymous

@flawr ?

trichoplax

@flawr Like a "vote to reopen" that can be applied in advance to cancel out future votes to close?

I prefer allowing a question to be closed quickly - that way it's more likely to result in edits to improve

Then the votes to reopen can be applied later when it's ready

feersum

I prefer everyone has unlimited close and reopen votes at all times and we all write bots to spam them in perpetual close/reopen wars.

flawr

11:08 PM

Not a very serious suggestion=)

controversiality-contest

RikerW

Anybody wanna discord?

I am currently keeping Sherlock9 up.

:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

??

RikerW

NVM, he left.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ discordapp.com/channels/133419285409169408/133419285409169408

Think skype with only voice chatting.

And text like here.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, I see.

flawr

What is discord?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:16 PM

^^^ ^

RikerW

discordapp.com

@flawr ^

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ^^

^^^^

Anybody home?

^

flawr

No.

I'm just a ghost floating around.

PhiNotPi

enter PhiNotPi

RikerW

Okay.

@PhiNotPi Sup

PhiNotPi

Sdown

flawr

11:23 PM

How is your Pi going today?

PhiNotPi

It's not.

RikerW

lol

flawr

@PhiNotPi Glad to hear.

FlagAsSpam

@RikerW Instant Invite code?

RikerW

discordapp.com/channels/133419285409169408/133419285409169408

i think that is it. IDK

FlagAsSpam

11:25 PM

Nupe.

RikerW

shrugs

FlagAsSpam

Should be a .gg link.

RikerW

discord.gg/0kCkPQ1A365smts8

Got it.

Thanks @mınxomaτ

Anybody else?

@Doorknob we are restarting (ish) discord

PhiNotPi

Brilliant idea: redefine the .= operator

i.=next means i=i.next

RikerW

Good one.

flawr

11:30 PM

That would be the only logical thing to do.

New Main Posts

IS IT CANNIBALISM IF YOU'RE A BANANA AND YOU EAT A BANANA

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Calvin's Hobbies

Anybody want to hang out on the Minecraft server? I'm kinda online

PhiNotPi

> examples profile

Alex A.

> kinda

RikerW

@Calvin'sHobbies I wanna, but IDK

@NewMainPosts YES

Calvin's Hobbies

11:38 PM

There's an enchanted diamond sword in the melon tower prizes to coax y'all

Alex A.

> Mk is a reboot of the Plan 9 mk command, which itself is a successor to make. This tool is for anyone who loves make, but hates all its stupid bullshit.

haha

Anonymous

@NewMainPosts what did i miss

Calvin's Hobbies

@PhiNotPi I found the lounge under spawn! Was that the secret room?

RikerW

Everything.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Why hasn't Code Review Tavern burned to the ground yet?

Anonymous

11:39 PM

I'm guessing pure spam post that got nuked from orbit?

Anonymous

@AlexA. I was just waiting for the order

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RikerW

lol

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Well lots of it is made of stone..

RikerW

I wish I could play now...

Alex A.

@Mego Guy who posted something that made absolutely no sense but was sort of fizzbuzz. Self deleted.

FlagAsSpam

11:40 PM

What's the IP again? I lost it.

Alex A.

IP stands for Internet Pony.

Calvin's Hobbies

See description chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/24544/ppcg-minecraft-server

Alex A.

It's what you ride when you need to go somewhere on the Internet.

RikerW

^

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. whats an ISP then?

RikerW

11:42 PM

Internet swimming pony.

Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies Internet Shiny Pony. Much rarer, people always want to trade them.

Calvin's Hobbies

and an HTTP?

Alex A.

Oh, I thought it was Irrational Sex Panther.

RikerW

lol

Human tasting tomato poisom

Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies High Trotting Tan Pony. It's tan and it goose-steps.

Sp3000

11:43 PM

Not sure if anyone's posted yet, but Google delves into the other kind of Go: googleblog.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/…

PhiNotPi

@Calvin'sHobbies Yes!

RikerW

Cool.

Calvin's Hobbies

:D

:

^ does the edit pencil look like a mouth?

RikerW

Yes.

No.

IDK.

Alex A.

@Doorknob May be of interest to you

Anonymous

11:48 PM

@AlexA. Would be 100% better if it wasn't in Go

Alex A.

Agreed

quartata

I just realized that rickroll is a portmanteau of rick and troll

Alex A.

Go seemed so promising at first but it IMO falls short of the initial hype

RikerW

@quartata roflmao

Alex A.

@quartata How could you not have known that

RikerW

11:50 PM

^

Anonymous

@quartata Actually it's s/duck/rick/ applied on duckroll, the original troll

quartata

I really always wondered where the roll came from

RikerW

lol

Anonymous

tmyk

Anonymous

11:51 PM

And duckroll wasn't created as a portmanteau of duck and troll, either

quartata

So it's double meaning.

RikerW

^

quartata

Interesting.

Anonymous

It happened because moot applied s/egg/duck/g on 4chan through a text filter

Anonymous

So eggroll became duckroll

quartata

11:52 PM

Mego the meme etymologist

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@Mego haha

Anonymous

And eggroll isn't a portmanteau of egg and troll, either. It's a tasty treat.

RikerW

~~tasty~~ awful

quartata

Was that just on /b/ or whatever or all boards

Anonymous

All boards

quartata

Why

Anonymous

11:56 PM

Because moot doot

Calvin's Hobbies

@PhiNotPi Prize?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

quartata

@AlexA. I don't know but I found "nose candy" in it once

The PPCG police don't seem to care. I'm guessing Calvin got bribed

Alex A.

@quartata wth is nose candy

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