The Nineteenth Byte

FlagAsSpam

10:00 PM

ev3commander

10/10 would buy again

FlagAsSpam

Alright, I'm out.

Peace, all.

Or war, if your into that kind of thing.

Bye!

TanMath

the xkcd game is sooo col

ArtOfCode

@TanMath What xkcd game?

Doorknob

@ArtOfCode hoverboard, I think

ArtOfCode

10:08 PM

@Doorknob Clicky-linky?

Ta

@Doorknob yes

@Doorknob 1101b.com/xkcd1608

Doorknob

@flawr yeah I've seen that

TanMath

10:10 PM

@flawr why isn't it showing the rest?

flawr

@TanMath There is nothing else.

TanMath

@flawr oh yeah, oops

SuperJedi224

How did this villager get into the nether...?

ev3commander

idk

SuperJedi224

Of course, I only wound up in the nether by accident

I was making some improvements to the zombie pigman farm I'm testing

Alien G

10:22 PM

@SuperJedi224 Mobs and items can go through portals...

SuperJedi224

Yeah, but, in this particular world, I'm really not sure how a villager managed to get anywhere near any of my portals.

@Maltysen Hello

hi

Oh.

@Maltysen Hi

this is not a minecraft room

Calvin's Hobbies

10:26 PM

^

TanMath

talk here:

PPCG Minecraft Server

Server closed. Files: github.com/HelkaHomba/ppcgmc1.9 New serv...

SuperJedi224

That's for the PPCG server specifically. I'm just playing singleplayer in my redstone testing world.

TanMath

still this is not a minecraft chatroom

SuperJedi224

Yeah, I suppose so.

TanMath

talk here:

Minecraft Talk

Everything Minecraft. Warning: Exposure may cause insanity and...

Alex A.

10:28 PM

@TanMath Granted, it's not like The Nineteenth Byte is at all on topic for code golf.

Only very occasionally.

TanMath

@AlexA. i disagree... maybe 50% of the time is off-topic

40 mins ago, by Dennis

We should ask @FlagAsSpam, the resident expert.

40 mins ago, by TanMath

@Dennis ok

Alex A.

If it was 50% on topic we might still have @PeterTaylor.

TanMath

makes it seem I am agreeing with Dennis that we should ask FlagAsSpam

@AlexA. huh?

El'endia Starman

@ev3commander Dango dango dango dango dango daikazoku...

ev3commander

?

Alex A.

10:30 PM

@TanMath I think Peter doesn't come around anymore because this room has basically devolved into shitposting. :P

SuperJedi224

@AlexA. That name sounds familiar. I'm not sure why.

ev3commander

.

TanMath

@SuperJedi224 codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/194/peter-taylor

ev3commander

What is the shortest way to setTimeout in java?

SuperJedi224

@ev3commander You could use a workflow utility

ev3commander

10:32 PM

:(

SuperJedi224

Or create a separate thread

@TanMath I mean from somewhere else

TanMath

-3

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Determine if a number is a palindromic concatenation of squares Just some time ago, I was looking at my user number, 10401, and realized it is a palindromic number with only squares as its digits. So now, I want to find many more numbers like this, and you can help me by writing a program that d...

ev3commander

-3

Rainbolt

@AlexA. Evolved*

SuperJedi224

Java really doesn't have a builtin setTimeout()

TanMath

10:32 PM

@ev3commander so?

ev3commander

The shortest setTimeout I can find is repeatedly Thread.sleep in try/catch blocks, or to loop until time is (3000 ms?) more than the last time it was set

TanMath

any opinions? especially on the bonus

ev3commander

Let's go now.

Rainbolt

@AlexA. The bonuses make sense to me. -50% score if you print the list of squares. -60% if you print all of the lists of squares. You can only claim one bonus or the other the way it's worded.

Alex A.

Ok

Rainbolt

10:38 PM

Is it just the unusual English wording that is tripping you up? I can fix that.

TanMath

my english is unusual?

Alex A.

I don't know. Just didn't make sense to me when I read it.

TanMath

@AlexA. I changed it later, that is why... read it again

ok, this challenge is pretty hated

Rainbolt

@TanMath Yes. Not that unusual though (I can read it just fine)

TanMath

so maybe i should delete it? :(

or just abandon it?

Rainbolt

10:42 PM

I honestly don't know why it has so many downvotes

TanMath

if I have a score of 2 upvotes, I will post, ok? but I and not that close anyway

El'endia Starman

@Rainbolt Probably because it was improved over time and the original voters haven't checked back and deemed it worthy of upvoting.

TanMath

so that is why I repeatedly post it again for people to see

@El'endiaStarman BTW, what to you think of the challenge?

Rainbolt

Here are my thoughts:
1) People don't like bonuses for some reason
2) You called someone a hypocrite earlier
3) Sysreq's comment about it being trivial even though the challenge has changed since you originally posted it.

Alex A.

@Rainbolt He called me a hypocrite earlier. How is that relevant?

TanMath

10:45 PM

^

plus, I apologized

score change:

1. -3

2. -4

3. -3

4. -4

so since I posted this, two more people didn't like my post..show yourselves! ;) And please tell me why you did not like the post...

Rainbolt

@AlexA. It's a possible reason for him getting a downvote. Don't tell me that everyone in this chat room votes maturely.

Or you can if you want, I just won't believe you

Alex A.

@Rainbolt Trust me, that was not something I was ever going to claim. :P

TanMath

what, somebody is a big @AlexA. follower and want to save his reputation and esteem in here by downvoting my question?

Rainbolt

I know for a fact that I argued with someone about MTG and then for the next week, every time I posted an answer alongside that user, I got a downvote rather quickly

TanMath

The only person who would do a downvote for me calling @AlexA. a hypocrite is @AlexA. himself...@AlexA. did you downvote?

Alex A.

10:48 PM

@TanMath Nope

TanMath

please tell us honestly, I won't be angry

Rainbolt

@TanMath That was mostly a joke. Sorry.

TanMath

@Rainbolt that wasn't clear

Maltysen

@Rainbolt remember "its a bunny with a pancake on it head!"? :)

Alex A.

@Rainbolt That's shitty. Targeted voting, be it up or down, is occasionally identified by the system and reversed. Did happen in this instance?

TanMath

10:49 PM

ok, I am deleting the bonuses since two other people agree with @AlexA.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I like bonuses somewhat.

TanMath

really?

ok, so two people like it, three don't...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yeah.

Almost every one of my challenges has a bonus >_<

Rainbolt

@AlexA. No, it wasn't regular enough to be recognized. I have had serial downvoting reversed before (and even had it done myself thanks to one of those poll questions on our meta where I only liked answers written by Martin for some reason).

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Rainbolt I've gotten serial upvoted twice >_<

Rainbolt

10:51 PM

@Maltysen Nope... that doesn't ring a bell. I feel like I'm missing out on some inside joke.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I like this face >_<

TanMath

somebody else better tell me they like the bonus otherwise the bonuses go bye bye

Seadrus

i do

TanMath

ok..I am not deleting it

Rainbolt

I'd prefer if you chose one of the bonuses and made that the challenge. Basically:
If truthy, print the list of squares.
If falsy, print false.

That incorporates the bonus and keeps the challenge more or less the same

TanMath

10:52 PM

three people like the bonuses, but if they liked the entire post they would have upvoted, so you guy did not like the entire post

Maltysen

I am with @rainbolt on this one

TanMath

@Rainbolt so I could put the first bonus with the challenge, and the second bonus will still be kept a bonus?

Maltysen

229

A: Six simple tips to get reputation fast on any Stack Exchange site

To be perfectly honest, I absolutely agree with #3. A bit of formatting Makes the post more readable proves that the user put a bit of effort into it prevents the "Wall of Text crits you" effect stands out allows me to spot important points more easily puts some structure into the posting And...

feersum

> "Wall of Text crits you"

wat

Alex A.

@feersum In Soviet Russia, Wall of Text crits you.

Rainbolt

10:54 PM

@Maltysen Must... upvote....

TanMath

ok, looks like topic changed

Alex A.

Topics tend to do that

TanMath

then i am going to say bye bye

Calvin's Hobbies

Is that two pancakes?

TanMath

^ /me flags as too cute

Alex A.

10:59 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies Oh god... it just might be!

TanMath

bye!

Alex A.

Bye!

TanMath

BTW, it is not a pancake it is a:

Dorayaki

Dorayaki (どら焼き, どらやき, 銅鑼焼き, ドラ焼き) is a type of Japanese confection, а red-bean pancake which consists of two small pancake-like patties made from castella wrapped around a filling of sweet Azuki red bean paste. Dorayaki are similar to Imagawayaki, but the latter are cooked with the batter completely surrounding the bean paste filling and are often served hot. The original Dorayaki consisted of only one layer. Its current shape was invented in 1914 by Usagiya in the Ueno district of Tokyo. In Japanese, dora means "gong", and because of the similarity of the shapes, this is probably the origin of...

Rainbolt

Meme broken

Alex A.

Our lives will never be the same again

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:00 PM

any good online program for converting .md to .html?

Rainbolt

How many of you immediately googled convert .md to .html?

Alex A.

I was going to but I figured everyone else would. :P

Rainbolt

Only to end up right back on SO?

ev3commander

Put a .md page on Github and then inspect element and then get the HTML.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies this works nice

Calvin's Hobbies

11:01 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ stackedit.io plus view page source?

Future ping o.o

El'endia Starman

"Dango Daikazoku", eng sub.

►

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Well this is cool. It even has MathJax.

Calvin's Hobbies

Does any pokemon name end in 'mon'?

Alien G

@Calvin'sHobbies The word Pokemon does.

Alex A.

Digimonmon

El'endia Starman

11:05 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan have "mon" in the middle.

Hitmontop, Monferno...

Those are the only Pokémon with "mon" anywhere in their name, @Calvin'sHobbies.

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman Flagged as not an answer

El'endia Starman

ಠ_ಠ

ev3commander

github.com/ev3commander/pokemons/blob/master/list.txt -> regex

Alien G

@ev3commander CTRL+F "mon"

El'endia Starman

@ev3commander Easier to look here and Ctrl+F for "mon". :P

Alien G

11:08 PM

No comment.

ev3commander

@Calvin'sHobbies answer: NO

Does any pokemon name start with "pok"?

El'endia Starman

Tynamo is a Pokémon that ends in "mo".

@ev3commander The only Pokémon with "pok" in its name is Slowpoke.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Do any pokemon have accents in their names? :P

ev3commander

no

Alex A.

Pikachü

ev3commander

11:13 PM

unless you don't have english cards

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. Nope.

Calvin's Hobbies

Are the any Pokemon who names are a substring of another Pokemon?

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman Pîkáçhü

El'endia Starman

@Calvin'sHobbies Probably.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Pikapikachuchu

El'endia Starman

11:14 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies Yup! Paras and Parasect!

Pidgeot and Pidgeotto.

Just from the first generation.

Calvin's Hobbies

El'endia Starman

Male and female Nidoran, maybe. They're named the exact same.

Abra and Kadabra.

Alien G

@El'endiaStarman Does that even count?

El'endia Starman

Mew and Mewtwo.

@AlienG Maybe? A string is trivially a substring of itself.

Okay, @Calvin'sHobbies, four examples from the first generation.

ev3commander

nidoran♂ and nidoran♀

El'endia Starman

11:19 PM

Marill and Azumarill from second gen.

ev3commander

exeggcute and exeggutor and like XD

El'endia Starman

^ Neither is a substring of the other.

ev3commander

still

close

El'endia Starman

Porygon and Porygon2. First and second gen.

ev3commander

do pichu and pikachu count

El'endia Starman

11:21 PM

I wouldn't think so.

ev3commander

charizard and charizard-ex

El'endia Starman

It's worth noting that I'm literally just scrolling down this Pokémon list on Bulbapedia and looking for adjacent names that match.

ev3commander

same

El'endia Starman

I'm almost certainly missing others.

ev3commander

except i'm using the qithub one

Alex A.

11:22 PM

Calvinchu420

El'endia Starman

Huh. There are four "Castform"s! Normal, Fire, Water, Ice.

ev3commander

piplup and prinplup are almost

Nathan Merrill

who is the toxic gas guy?

isn't his evolution a substring?

El'endia Starman

Four Deoxys also. They're all Psychic type, but they have different shapes.

Nathan Merrill

koffing and weezing, nm

ev3commander

11:24 PM

almost: mr. mime and mime jr.

El'endia Starman

Three "Burmy"s and three "Wormadam"s.

ev3commander

porygon and porygon-z

El'endia Starman

Two "Shellos" and two "Gastrodon".

Nathan Merrill

what about pokemon that aren't an evolution, version, or form of itself?

ev3commander

woobat and swoobat

Nathan Merrill

11:25 PM

are any of them substrings of each other?

El'endia Starman

Given that there's like 651 or something, probably.

SIX "Rotom"s!

Two "Giratina"s and two "Shaymin". All those starting with "Burmy" are from gen IV.

Two Unfezant.

Oh hey, gen V: Woobat and Swoobat!

ev3commander

We found 8 so far

I said woobat already

El'endia Starman

Two Basculin and two Darmanitan.

ev3commander

klink/klinklang, klang/klinklang

10 now!

El'endia Starman

nice!

SuperJedi224

11:28 PM

Wait... does anyone know if PeterTaylor was on the old Ninjakiwi forum?

@JAtkin Hello

ev3commander

accent: Flabébé

Alex A.

@SuperJedi224 What's Ninjawiki? I would guess not simply by the name. :P

SuperJedi224

@AlexA. It's a flash game website.

J Atkin

Hey. Is anyone going to answer my question? codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/65584/… Is it that boring? Or is it just hard?

Doorknob

@SuperJedi224 So it's a Nethack site?

SuperJedi224

11:30 PM

@Doorknob No.

Doorknob

but you said it's a game website

SuperJedi224

Ninjakiwi's the site that made Bloons.

Doorknob

Is that a version of Nethack?

SuperJedi224

...

Doorknob

May 11 at 19:41, by Doorknob

But yeah, Nethack is the only game. All other games are just reskinned versions of Nethack.

Maltysen

11:30 PM

do you play BMC?

SuperJedi224

@Maltysen Not as often as I used to

@Doorknob ಠ_ಠ

Maltysen

stackedit is great

ev3commander

ok so far here are our pairs: paras/parasect, pidgeot/pidgeotto, abra/kadabra, mew/mewtwo, porygon/porygon2, porygon/porygon-z, woobat/swoobat, klink/klinklang, klang/klinklang, marill/azumarill

J Atkin

I have used stackedit for all of my posts. Much nicer than the built in editor.

SuperJedi224

Fortunately, I have the archive of their old forum bookmarked. So I can just check there.

Doorknob

11:33 PM

@JAtkin I've heard of it, but I've never used it. Why do you say that?

Maltysen

it is glorious. Better than word.

Doorknob

literally any editor is better than Word :/

Alex A.

^

Maltysen

@JAtkin Does it support collaboration like docs?

Alex A.

Yes

SuperJedi224

11:34 PM

Okay, apparently not. At least, I can't find him there.

Alex A.

Peter Taylor doesn't really seem like the online flash game type.

Maltysen

@AlexA. okay never using docs again

Alex A.

Take that with a grain of salt; I've never used stackedit.io.

SuperJedi224

I think I've seen that username elsewhere though. I just can't figure out where.

El'endia Starman

Brute-forcing the Pokémon substring thing.

Thomas Kwa

11:36 PM

@JAtkin Be patient.

SuperJedi224

@Doorknob Even notepad is better than word.

El'endia Starman

We missed two!

Kabuto and Kabutops, and Volcarona and Aron!

Nathan Merrill

I wrote a script to find all pairs on this site:

bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/…

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill Volcarona and Aron satisfy your criteria!

Nathan Merrill

hmmm...

why didn't my script find that

Alex A.

11:40 PM

Capitalization?

Nathan Merrill

no, I already lowercase it

oh, I know!

I was only doing the first generation

hmmm, still not producing it

ev3commander

#bruteforcers

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

There needs to be a <markdown> tag

ev3commander

markdown

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

In HTML

Doorknob

11:43 PM

That's called... Markdown

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

With marked, it's this:

Doorknob

you can use HTML in Markdown

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

window.addEventListener("load",function(){
	// markdown!
	var mds = document.getElementsByTagName("markdown");
	for(var i=0;i<mds.length;i++){
		var Q = mds[i].innerHTML.split("\n");
		// get indentation of first line!
		while(!(f=Q.shift()));
		Q = [""].concat(Q);
		var trimAmt = f.length-f.trimLeft().length;
		console.log(Q);
		Q = Q.map(function(e){
			var ret = e.slice(trimAmt);
			console.log(e,ret);
			return ret;
		});
		mds[i].innerHTML = marked(f.trimLeft()+Q.join("\n"));
	}
});

2

ev3commander

bye

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob markdown in HTML

Doorknob

11:43 PM

why

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ev3commander Peace!

@Doorknob ^_^

what

^

What?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ -a billion for indenting with tabs

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:44 PM

why is that getting stars?

@AlexA. It's automatic.

Alex A.

I don't know

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I've pretty much converted to two spaces

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ automatic? What?

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You can change default settings

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob N++

Doorknob

11:45 PM

?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. I'm too lazy

Alex A.

@Doorknob Notepad++

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Notepad++

ninja'd

Doorknob

oh

bad editor is no excuse for bad indentation :P

Alex A.

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:45 PM

It works.

Doorknob

clearly it doesn't if you can't make it indent the way you want to

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It's sufficient for my purposes

@Doorknob I use tabs as well. Never in the same project, of course.

TanMath

Hello all!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ hiya

Alex A.

@Doorknob It's actually fairly customizable. I've used it for work. The first thing I did was change the default indentation to spaces. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:46 PM

^

Alex A.

I still don't really like it though

TanMath

@FlagAsSpam like @AlexA.?

2

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

There must be the same 2 people starring relatively amusing comments :P

TanMath

ooh, people are starting to star my messages! I am getting popular here!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TanMath Or you just are familiar with the memetics. ^_^

TanMath

11:49 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that too! But you must be popular for people to star! That is what I have found based on decades of research

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TanMath Not really. My messages are starred and I 'aint that popular around these parts ^^"

TanMath

You are popular based on my research! ;)

Seadrus

@TanMath he's notorious for refusing to use the sandbox

Alex A.

:/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TanMath Danke ^_^ Research some more, though ;)

@Seadrus no thanks from the sidevoter...

Seadrus

11:51 PM

what did you think sidevoting was?

TanMath

Talking about sandbox...

????

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

sorry accidently pasted a line of JS in here

TanMath

-4

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Determine if a number is a palindromic concatenation of squares Just some time ago, I was looking at my user number, 10401, and realized it is a palindromic number with only squares as its digits. So now, I want to find many more numbers like this, and you can help me by writing a program that d...

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that is weird...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TanMath Indeed.

TanMath

Any more opinion?

Nathan Merrill

11:54 PM

ok, I think I got the full list

["pidgeotto", "pidgeot", "paras", "parasect", "abra", "kadabra", "porygon", "porygon", "kabuto", "kabutops", "mewtwo", "mew", "marill", "azumarill", "porygon2", "aron", "porygon-z", "woobat", "swoobat", "klink", "klang", "klinklang", "klinklang", "volcarona"]

Alex A.

@NathanMerrill -1 should be a list of tuples

El'endia Starman

Yep, that matches what I have.

Pidgeotto Pidgeot
Parasect Paras
Kadabra Abra
Kabutops Kabuto
Mewtwo Mew
Marill Azumarill
Porygon2 Porygon
Porygon-Z Porygon
Woobat Swoobat
Klinklang Klink
Klinklang Klang
Volcarona Aron

Nathan Merrill

@AlexA. if I was in python, they would be

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

Nathan Merrill

I hate javascript

TanMath

11:55 PM

No opinion?! :(

Doorknob

@NathanMerrill that's reasonable :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ