The Nineteenth Byte

10:08 PM

which should count trial in it

@Doorknob Where?

No idea, but I recall hearing about it

Oh, SAS has SAS University Edition, which is free. So I guess that still counts as legit? It's a huge pain in the ass to install though since it requires a virtual machine.

I say free trial languages are valid

I disagree

what happens when the trial is over

feersum

10:09 PM

We've always allowed proprietary languages

@Sp3000 Sp = Stealth ping?

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@MartinBüttner did Mathematica launch a free online version recently?

Anonymous

@Doorknob Wasn't this only discussed in the context of CnR challenges?

@Doorknob Change your email address and IP and redownload. :P

feersum

Free trial languages should be invalid when a freely available language is specified by the question though.

10:09 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies he did it before it was ~~cool~~ banned

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer I heard something about that

@Calvin'sHobbies 3000 is a lot of stealth pings. No wonder they're banned.

someone here was talking about it

@Mego No. See the meta post I oneboxed up there. ^

A: Where to find an online testing environment for specific programming languages?

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Mathematica / Wolfram Language Wolfram has followed Sage in creating an online notebook experience, and it has a free subscription level. This does require creating an account. Register here Returning users go here to create a new notebook. The UI currently requires you to enter the program ...

10:11 PM

Oh hey, Alex actually had a comment about SAS from a while back on that meta post

What do you do in the case of really hard languages like SAS or Stata where everything is proprietary with no equivalent of Mathematica's CDF? The only people who can really test answers in these languages are those with the products licensed. I would guess that the number of SAS and Stata users on PPCG is fairly small. — Alex A. ♦ Feb 10 at 21:45

I believe SAS University Edition was released after that comment.

and even then, using company's commercial license for private use should be against law..

SAS is a huge piece of shit though

(both the company and the product)

> SAS: SAS's A Shit

Recursive shitting

10:13 PM

44 secs ago, by Optimizer

9 secs ago, by Optimizer

7 secs ago, by Optimizer

Shitting

@AlexA. Watch as you interview for them in a few years and they find this comment ;)

@Calvin'sHobbies SAS is based in North Carolina, a place I will never move to. Also I wouldn't work for them anyway; I hate their product. :P

I say this, having been a professional SAS user for the past 4 years...

so what does a SAS/SAP certification mean?

It makes you a sap?

@Calvin'sHobbies You're certainly a sap if you think SAS is worth its price.

10:15 PM

on their linked in page. Not on them

I'm not familiar with SAS/SAP certification.

ok

I think it's unrelated to SAS the programming language/company/software though.

oh crap what did I do

you OOOO4ed

10:17 PM

@Mego CnR? Sorry, still unfamiliar with the terminology and I forgot to read the meta post about terminology linked earlier

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ By the way Conor I've used your technology against you

@quartata Oh god

@Sherlock9 Cops and robbers

@Optimizer :/

Caps and robbers?

10:17 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Come into Stealth-pingers United! and you'll see.

@quartata Oh god no

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Made a golfing language and posted in it without a finished implementation? :P

You've doomed us all

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ YES

@AlexA. That part of it is stable.

10:18 PM

;)

@AlexA. Only control sequences are unstable

;)

quartata copy is here!

@quartata grumbles Fine. Link me?

Or that

Incidentally, does anyone have a link to that meta post about PPCG terminology?

@Sherlock9 It was deleted

10:20 PM

Aw darn

Questions and answers should have sufficient information to be understandable by people unfamiliar with the site, so a dictionary isn't a good solution.

Most of the PPCG slang is just in chat

Well then, let me ask here. Besides code golf, what the challenges in here? What are pop-cons, CnRs, KotHs?

@Sherlock9 popularity-contest cops-and-robbers king-of-the-hill

@AlexA. Can we still see it? I'm curious

@Doorknob Thanks

Sp3000

10:22 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Personally I'd recommend expanding the language first - you don't want to be updating the docs left right and center whilst it's unstable

@Sp3000 Good point. I'll refrain from answering. ;)

Digital Trauma

Do you have OSX? If so, paste this into a terminal: say -v Hysterical "hah ha ha haha ahhahahah haha hah aha ha ha haha ahhaha "

@Calvin'sHobbies Yes, with a permalink and sufficient rep: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/7616/…

Don't do that unless you want your ears to hurt.

Don't do what, the OS X say thing?

Wait, quartatoes, are you a Mac user? (If so, did I already know that?)

10:29 PM

> quartatoes

@AlexA. No, but I used to be one.

A long long time ago.

@Doorknob quartater tots

@quartata I can still remember

@quartata What was the last version of OS X you used and why would you ever switch?

I'm Linux through in through now though.

10:30 PM

Once you go Mac, you don't go back.

lies

@AlexA. Jeez, I think it was Snow Leopard.

And I never really switched.

I used it alongside of Linux.

@Doorknob You only think it's a lie because you haven't ~~been assimilated~~ gone Mac yet.

all lies

@quartata Which Linux distro do you use now?

10:31 PM

I think I stopped using Macs when I noticed that Java 7 only works on Mountain Lion even though if you hack it to ignore the version requirement it runs just fine

I kinda thought that meant they did it on purpose to make people upgrade and got real mad.

@AlexA. Ubuntu Studio.

That's odd... I've had no such Java issues on my Mac. When I got it it was running Lion, and I've since upgraded to each OS through Yosemite, which I'm on now.

@quartata Oh right. Now I remember that I've asked you about 200 times now.

Might have been Lion, dunno.

Either way I was pissed because my little white MacBook couldn't update to Lion

and so I couldn't use Java basically

Aw, little white MacBook.

@AlexA. Yes <3

It's so cute.

Did that have a PowerPC processor or Intel?

10:33 PM

@AlexA. Intel Core 2 Duo

The first of that kind I think.

Oh, okay. I thought they went Intel when the bodies went aluminum.

@AlexA. Nope.

There was a time when they were plastic and Intel.

Well anyway, Macs rule all and I'm going to try to "work" for another 20 minutes before I go home.

<3

aditsu

@MartinBüttner I had some reasons... e.g. you can concatenate it with numbers, and it saves more characters compared to the literal

macs-suck alex-is-wrong

^

VoteToClose

10:37 PM

Nu.

in Stealth-pingers United!, 8 mins ago, by Thatha

<The Tin Soldier> @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ alex==wrong => true

@VoteToClose No you're not doing it properly. It's, "Ni!"

@Doorknob CHOP DOWN THE LARGEST TREE WITH A HERRING

What? It can't be done!

aditsu

@Doorknob owwww!!! don't say that awful word!

10:39 PM

@Doorknob NI!

correct response was "Ahhh! Don't say that word!" :P

Have to go now. (Brave Sir Doorknob ran away...)

Digital Trauma

is happy to see the religious battle is Mac vs Linux. I guess there aren't really any other worthwhile OSes to talk about

@DigitalTrauma There aren't.

VoteToClose

Linux always wins, let's face it.

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aditsu

windoze > mac :)

VoteToClose

10:41 PM

But Mac is... okay.

@Doorknob I know. But I'm a newly improved Ni Knight.

I'm immune to that.

TanMath

hello?

hola

TanMath

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ como estas?

SuperJedi224

Is there a closed-form formula for this sequence?

oeis.org/A000104