The Nineteenth Byte

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

10:00 PM

@ThomasKwa You're probably right.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Yea, I always get those two mixed up.

quartata

@ThomasKwa Whoa

I wonder if anyone seen this language before

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A: Summation from a to b

Squirrel, 29 bytes local f=@(a,b)(b-a+1)*(b+a)/2 Creates a function f.

Alex A.

I have

And not just in my yard

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quartata

Damn.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Lol

quartata

10:13 PM

Do I at least get points (subliminal message upvotes) for using it?

It's named Squirrel after all.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I would, 'cept my upvote amount is down :P

VTCAKAVSMoACE

10:26 PM

So, for the Summation question... does it have to be command line input or can it be placed directly in code?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

idk

undergroundmonorail

in general hardcoding input is frowned upon, except in cases where the language doesn't actually have any way to do input

that's what i've seen at least

also there's this

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Q: Default for Code Golf: Input/Output methods

It looks like we have a consensus that we want certain defaults for the format which answers are expected in for code-golf. On that poll, the question arose twice, which input/output formats should be allowed for programs and functions. So here is another poll. This one works different though. A...

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Eh... There's a way to do it, but it takes some 50 bytes for it...

El'endia Starman

Hey, esolangs.org is back up!

undergroundmonorail

hoor'y

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

10:38 PM

YAY

VTCAKAVSMoACE

So, is it common practice to post an answer in a language that simply couldn't win, just as an interesting excerpt?

undergroundmonorail

yes

that's like, the vast majority of answers on this site tbh

if you're not using pyth or cjam you might as well forfeit the competition for a lot of challenges, but the fun isn't just "try your hardest to win" you know?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Yeah - therefore, I shall reveal a new language to code golf! Applescript!

quartata

@VTCAKAVSMoACE I thought about golfing in AppleScript.. Sadly it does not have a free interpreter so I don't think we can use it on here.

undergroundmonorail

i mean

people have golfed in tis-100

which is literally a commercial game that you can purchase

quartata

10:43 PM

Nevermind then!

Golf your heart out!

undergroundmonorail

i think the "free interpreter" thing is mostly for koths, where someone else has to be able to run your code

quartata

Fair enough.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Nobody will ever want to run this.

quartata

Heh

You know I thought of making a "send an email" challenge. AppleScript would probably do pretty well in that...

VTCAKAVSMoACE

It'd do amazing. It's three incredibly verbose lines.

quartata

10:51 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

RTTTL Obfuscation RTTTL, or Ring Tone Text Transfer Language is a music format that was invented by Nokia in the dawn of time when dinosaurs roamed the land. It allows for fairly crude pieces of music (no chords or anything), and the format is pretty simple which is why I think it's pretty cool....

undergroundmonorail

i think i've seen a little bit of applescript on this site but it was for a problem where capitals mattered for some reason? i don't remember specifics but iirc applescript is case sensitive so it did well

quartata

My latest challenge. Tell me what you guys think.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

RTTTL Obfuscation RTTTL, or Ring Tone Text Transfer Language is a music format that was invented by Nokia in the dawn of time when dinosaurs roamed the land. It allows for fairly crude pieces of music (no chords or anything), and the format is pretty simple which is why I think it's pretty cool....

quartata

Thanks robot.

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Just saw your AppleScript post. Beautiful.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Why, thank you. bows

Thomas Kwa

10:56 PM

@quartata There's probably an easy solution in Headsecks.

quartata

Any thoughts on the RTTTL challenge?

Thomas Kwa

Actually I'm not sure about Headsecks being easy to use for this...

, maps to brainfuck .

quartata

@ThomasKwa Oh you were talking about the RTTTL challenge. I thought you meant the summing challenge.

Yeah I'm sure that's a good way to do it.

I know for a fact that it is trivial with Help WarDoq...

Just make the title H

Shhhhh

Thomas Kwa

Disallow that language, then...

VTCAKAVSMoACE

^

quartata

11:01 PM

I suppose.

Thomas Kwa

Keep in mind that these sorts of challenges are generally restricted to a few languages.

quartata

@ThomasKwa You mean just by design or actually listing off the languages you can use?

I happen to know that since sharps are comments in a lot of languages this could probably be done in a fair amount of languages.

Thomas Kwa

Just by design. That can be a good thing, but it generally discourages hard golfing and encourages use of new languages.

quartata

11:33 PM

Just found the Evolution of Hello World challenge.

That was a really cool challenge.

Alex A.

Yes.

I strongly discourage forbidding any language in a challenge. If someone wants to post a trivial solution, good for them, that's boring and they can get downvoted. But it's better than not permitting the language to begin with.

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minxomat

^

quartata

Hey @ThomasKwa I can't find the step instruction for your TI-Basic floret answer.

It's not in the catalog...

Thomas Kwa

11:50 PM

The what instruction?

thetastep?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

vars, right, 6

Right?

Thomas Kwa

That's in [Vars] somewhere

Yes, I think so

...[gets my TI-84]

XD

[Vars][1][->][6]

11:51 PM

Oh, needs batteries. Luckily for me, I have some!

Alex A.

I had a TI-83 that was my sister's when she was in high school. But in university a friend borrowed it during our statistics class and she dropped it and most of the screen doesn't work anymore. u_u

quartata

Ah! Thanks

I didn't realize it was all one var.

El'endia Starman

@ThomasKwa Yes, that's correct.

Thomas Kwa

By the way, the formula for the golden angle is actually longer than the decimal. I really don't want to get rid of the formula though.

quartata

That's ok.

It'll be our secret :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:56 PM

And ours :P

quartata

You're still gonna win either way so

El'endia Starman

[coughs]

quartata

Oh yes I see.

It'll be the Nineteenth Byte's secret

Alex A.

The transcript is public.

The President of the United States could be reading this as we speak.

El'endia Starman

Let's hope the nineteenth byte doesn't get hunted down and beaten until it spills its secrets. Then we'd have to rename this room to The Twentieth Byte.

Alex A.

11:58 PM

That room already exists.

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. Hello Obama!

quartata

OK then it'll be the secret of everyone except those not in the room that are too lazy to wiretap us or look at the transcript.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

Alex A.

A wiretap is for phones though.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

quartata

11:59 PM

You know what I mean dammit

xnor

@ThomasKwa I'm going to add a bounty for a more elegant proof on the three-fruit pies. Is that cool with you? I saw you had a commented saying you were planning to do the same.

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