@David I was replying to an earlier line of yours. See the arrow to the left of my line, right before the "@David"? Click on it to see what I was replying to.
@JM pure snark. I honestly would work to get some of them up and running, if I had the time. Reopening the original proposal has some potential for amusement, though.
@rcollyer and look at the proposals they proposed... it's like asking who wants hot dog at a ball game. every tom, dick, and harry committed to those general proposals
@All, I compiled a list of some of the important discussions we had on meta in preparation for the impending public beta. If I missed any, feel free to edit the question.
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It's really too bad that participation in meta doesn't count towards fulfilling you commitment. I'm at 8 questions and 5 answers, and I'm not the most prolific one.
Odd thought: you don't suppose they're waiting to see if we can have someone cross the 2k threshold before flipping the private/public switch, do you? It would be "amusing" to give someone the highest privileges and then yank them away ...
@Verbeia Nope. I'm as in the dark as you are. Although being a winter night here, and a summer afternoon there. I suspect I am more in the dark at the moment than you are.
@rcollyer I highly doubt it... sure, some of the SE team are prone to pranks but I don't think they would do anything that evil to one of their own sites.
That is really odd. When I write a post, I see my code highlighted in the preview, but in the final version it is all gray. It seems someone turned on highlighting for editiing?? Who would do that?
Btw, has everyone here tested the highlighting script? It has to be bug-free for our new site! It works with Chrome and Firefox and has to be installed locally.
I was reading Leonid's answer here (thanks Leonid) showing how to use a Module to make variables inside it persistent. I had no idea one can do that.
My question here, is how to extend this to make simple objects where each one can have its methods and state inside it, and I then can call these ...
@MrWizard sz pronounced like s in salt a pronounced like a in what (British received pronunciation， not American) b - what you expect (b in bee) o - like o in German or Italian l - what you expect (like l in light) cs - like ch in China :-)
For extra correctness, all vowels are short (because vowel length is important in Hungarian), and the stress is on the first syllable ;-)
@Szabolcs it's funny even though I speak reasonable German, I have trouble making a distinction between a British RP "what" vowel and a German o. (but then, I can't tell the difference between ä and e in some German dialects). It's even harder when the stress is on the first syllable.
(I imagine my Australian accent attempts to speak the relevant dialect of Swiss German, from where I used to live, mist be hilarious)
I just looked: Poker went into public beta. I wonder if they will make us wait the second week.
We have 57 users above 200 rep now, way more than at that site
Hi everyone. I just combined the couple of stackexchange Mathematica palettes that have popped up on the site so far. If anyone wants the combined palette, I placed it at dl.dropbox.com/u/1187749/SEPalette.nb
While I'm doing some advertising and since there's quite a few linux users on this site. I posted some stuff about sound in Mathematica and Linux over at superuser.com/a/295980/45585
I hope you find it useful - and if you have any other tips or workarounds, feel free add them there.
@Szabolcs Re: How to pronounce your name. I would suggest you record your name in mp3, put the mp3 on the net somewhere and make a link to it in your profile (where you now link to the MMA proposal). This is much easier and more precise than a written description. Personally I am also interested to know how to pronounce your family name.
I really don't want to make a big deal about it ... I'm used to people not being able to pronounce or remember it ... the whole thing came up when Mr.Wizard asked me why an 's needs to be added when putting it in the possessive form (he only added the apostrophe). The short explanation is that it doesn't en in an "s" but a "cs" (which is an undivisible unit in my language)
@Szabolcs ok, but why not? If I understand correctly your name is of Hungarian origin. Hungarian and Finnish are Uralic languages, so for most of us might be interesting to hear how it really sounds
there are 38 MMA tagged questions on SuperUser. I suppose form now on we should redirect all future MMA tagged questions there to this site
@Heike I do not think MMa "only supports English". If you have a non-english voice engine as default in your system, MMA will use that and will pronounce anything with a different (its own) accent. I think you can even choose different voices in MMA to speak different languages (not sure though)
@JM That's how I was taught as well ... if the word ends in s, add an extra 's and pronounce an extra s, [tʃɑːlsɪz], while if it is a plural noun, then add only an apostrophe, and keep the pronunciation the same. But many people (native speakers) seem not to write an extra s after names.
@Heike is it pronounced the same way as if it were German?
@Heike I always wondered about @Sjoerd's name though ... Now I know that in Dutch oe is usually [u], but what about the Sj? I imagine [ʃ], but I have no idea.
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@Arnoud Can you undelete your answer here? Your suggestion to use databases is a good one, and just because there's a much bigger answer doesn't mean that yours is not valuable
Any problems with me unpinning the meta voting post? Any others that should be unpinned? For instance, the MathJax link is included in my post on meta.
Also, is evaluation appropriate for these two questions: 1, 2.
@All, both of the question listed under bugs do not seem to have been confirmed as such. The current text for bugs suggests it is for confirmed bugs only. Do we want to use possible-bug as an alternative until they're confirmed?
@rcollyer I wrote the text for bugs, and at the time I also cleaned up the tag. Silvia's problem was essentially confirmed to be a bug (more so a bug than a missing feature) when I asked about it on SO. Mr.Wizard's problem also seems to be a bug, at least people agree with it. When I said "confirm", I meant confirmed by the community.
@rcollyer It will happen that people will post about supposed bugs but most of us will disagree that it is a bug. It will also happen that the behaviour is so unexpected that most of us will consider it a bug -- in this case it's best to categorize it as such with the tag. I found myself looking for old bugs I recalled reading on MathGroup several times, to test if a new version has them or to see how to work around them.
I anticipate it being hard to prevent people from using bug or bugs when they think they have found a bug. I would have thought to make bug be the one for possible bugs and optionally have another tag confirmed-bug that could be added later.
E.g. I seem to recall a serisous numerical Eigenvalue bug in v7. If I have to use Eigenvalus in v7, I'll want to google that to make sure I won't get any bad results
@rcollyer @DavidZaslavsky Perhaps it's better not to have a tag that people can use to post bug reports. I think reports don't belong here. Questions about how to work around a problem should be welcome though.
True, but I could see there being value in letting someone come to this site and have a list (incomplete, of course) of known bugs to search to see if any of them explains what they are experiencing
@Szabolcs That's another thing I was thinking: we just remove bugs from any question once it is confirmed that the behavior described is not actually a bug
But basically my contribution is that I think new posters are going to use bugs when they think they have found a bug. So whatever we do with tagging, we should keep that in mind.
I wish I did! My Latin teacher fro high school, who was a Catholic priest, said he has used it to communicate with priest from other countries before :-)
@rcollyer This was asked by code review folks for somehting, and I believe the response was – "why should it be mod only? You're taking away the community aspect if you allow that"
besides, don't make bug tracking a big thing – using the SE engine for tracking bugs is not a good idea and is generally frowned upon and will be refused if you ask.
Yes, that's what I mean, it shouldn't be used for bug reports. But once a problem has been identified as a bug (by the community), I think it is useful to tag it.
Perhaps the OP was not asking about a bug, but it did turn out to be a bug afterwards
There are a couple on SO too
Okay, since we went public, I'm going to update my profile with a new link.
@Szabolcs Who is in charge to turn highlighting on for us? I would really like to test the stuff for SE and maybe adjust the color to match with the rest of the layout here.
@yoda Big question: can a user with rep 1 post a question on meta? I need to know this before I send the annoucement to MathGroup. I need a place to direct them to if they have questions. Discussion on MathGroup would be blocked.
@Szabolcs When I see this right, then Tim looks in his code whether prettyprinting is turned on. It is obviously completely turned off otherwise we would see at least wrong C-style, or not?
@Szabolcs You definitely do want to mention to them that it's not going to be easy to just talk as they wish here... we've all forgotten how it used to be since we automatically get 100 rep for a new account
But I just read through the "About" of mathematica.SE and I find it very clear and good written. It links to the FAQ of SE there is everything else explained.
Since I started from 1 on mma.se, I found it extremely weird to not be able to post on meta for half a day (since you need to wait for the rep to update on meta) or comment on anything
@halirutan well, I would like to say I agree with you, but unfortunately, that's not the case. On StackOverflow, "new" answers that are just "I have the same problem" and conversations with the OP are so common that moderators remove at least a few hundreds each day
All, I tried to edit the Tag Wiki on StackOverflow to direct users to the new site but the link I tried to use didn't work. Can it be fixed or do I need to remove it?
I thought that all-things-Mathematica that were not open ended discussions were OK here. If you find/start a meta, please link.
I just came to the realization that I am no longer going to be able to track Mathematica questions from a single tag filter on StackExchange.com, because of course the questions on this site are not all tagged mathematica. That's a little ironic since one of the purposes of this site was to gather these together.
That's why you track the new questions on this site :)
In any case, re: codegolf to all: I won't have much time for meta/general activity for the next few days, but if anyone wants to take up this discussion, please post on meta. This is an important point to discuss. If no one has done it by the time i have some spare time, I'll post it
It is my understanding that this new Mathematica.SE site is to be an umbrella for all things Mathematica, including questions that would otherwise belong on CodeReview or CodeGolf for example.
Is this understanding correct or are Mathematica questions to remain scattered across various SE sites ...
@yoda to be clear of your meaning, I created a second filter page to show all questions on this site, but now I have to remember to view both filter pages rather than only one. Am I missing an option?
@David there certainly has been a lot of activity! I am honestly surprised to see how many people who did not participate on StackOverflow are heavy hitters here.
@David, unless I am mistaken there are a number of users here who did not post or at least post much on StackOverflow. Does your observation disagree? And yes, there are people missing, which is why I put a notice on the tag wiki as soon as the beta was public.
Back on StackOverflow we used to post comments welcoming new users, directing them to FAQs etc. It is probably one of the reasons we were the friendliest tag there.
Should we continue doing this? I have in mind a simple welcome if the are already active users of another StackExchange site, and s...
Sorry if this isn't the appropriate place to ask, but would it be useful to have a Beginner tag? As a beginner, I'd like to easily find those types of questions and I'd certainly tag mine that way.
Should we post a link to the graphics uploader in the faq/wiki
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@TimMayes It's fine to ask here, a perhaps even better place would be the SE.Mathematica's meta discussion site (link somewhere in the upper right of the SE.Mathematica page)
@SjoerdCdeVries, No anybody should answer the questions. My goal would be to make the easy and obviously beginner-level questions easy to find or avoid as you see fit. My most recent question falls into that category. I didn't know about a certain setting that fixed a problem that I had.
@JonasTeuwen depends on your definition of cheap (and possibly legal) :) Most universities have licensing agreements, but place restrictions on number of kernels you can simultaneously run or when you can checkout a license, etc. The cheapest reliable option would be the student version, which is about 150$
I want to learn Mathematica as I'm quite annoyed by the very bad GUI of Maple. Would be a bit annoying if I pay 400€ for a home license and then find out I don't like it either.
@SjoerdCdeVries When you paste a multi-line block of code, you'll see a "fixed-font" button show up on the right of your chat message box. If you click that, it'll format it as code
@SjoerdCdeVries I'm due for a molt in a few days. Hold your horses. :)
(On the other sites where I participated in private beta, I got the badge only on the second day of public beta. Even though I wasn't posting anymore on those days.)
