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user55340

8:00 PM

@GlenH7 talking with coworkers at lunch, they were very much in the wet BBQ camp. To the point of marinated even. Juicy was a common adjective used.

Kit Z. Fox

Mmm. Juicy. Saucy. drools a little

user41796

To each their own

user41796

And I'll admit drowning a sandwich or two in BBQ sauce

user41796

But I also really enjoy the meal when the meat is so tender it's falling off of the bone. No sauce required.

Kit Z. Fox

I am literally no fooling drolling at my desk. Must. Stop. Imagining it.

user114359

8:03 PM

If there weren't so much snow on the ground I would get my smoker out and make some ribs right about now

Jimmy Hoffa

> I like big brisket and I cannot lie.

but you're right, the sauce was for dipping when the meat was that good.

user114359

Could we get another reopen vote on this? The question is fixed now and I actually have an answer

user114359

-5

Q: How can a software code be made modifiable without being visible to the end user?

I wish to supply a software product with GUI, etc. for operating it. And the software utility is research so the users will want to tweak it to some extent and implement their own preferred algorithms instead of the ones we're shipping. Therefore, we want to make the code partly modifiable but no...

user41796

@Snowman Needs two votes as it's currently at 3 reopen votes

user41796

@Snowman Done. Better have at it before the close cabal shuts it down again. :-P

user15026

8:14 PM

I'm glad I had lunch before popping in here, because the bbq talk would have made me hungry

Kit Z. Fox

Has anyone here had experience working Agile with remote teams?

I'm trying to get some ideas of how to manage sprint planning with remote workers.

Jimmy Hoffa

@KitZ.Fox just play a game of telephone, you tell one of them what you think the plan is, tell that person to tell one other person and pass it on from there. Then once the chain is complete, you ask the last person what the plan is, and recirculate it back to the first person you started with. Just keep circling it through everyone in a daisy chain on a daily basis and see what comes out at the end. It'll handily be just as productive as anything else you'll do regarding scrum with remote folk.

Feb 11 at 21:40, by MichaelT

@JimmyHoffa 👆 Helping

Kit Z. Fox

sighs heavily

Jimmy Hoffa

you're likely to end up with the plan being make delicious cakes and treats, and really that's the best you could hope for given scrum with remote teams

user55340

@JimmyHoffa hmmm. I've got another finger emoticon.

Jimmy Hoffa

8:19 PM

@MichaelT hey now, vulgarity is unnecessary

Kit Z. Fox

It must be possible.

user41796

@JimmyHoffa sed s/un//

Kit Z. Fox

I will think on it.

user55340

👇 might be helpful

user41796

@KitZ.Fox I would hope your team already has excellent communication channels in place

user55340

8:20 PM

See! I was right

user55340

@JimmyHoffa what were you thinking?

user41796

@Snowman BTW, there's already one close vote on there

enderland

close all the things

Ixrec

am I missing things to close vote?

user55340

I was on round 1. As was @Ixrec

user41796

8:23 PM

I'm not convinced it isn't still too broad, but I'm willing to give frosty a run with it.

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT thinking? You expect much sir. I daresay, that's a bridge too far.

Ampt

@JimmyHoffa tell that to the kid you made cry!

Jimmy Hoffa

@Ampt there's no crying in baseball!

Ixrec

it's a very meh question but since it already got closed and reopened and hasn't attracted a ton of terrible answers (just one that got quickly downvoted) I don't feel a need to reclose it

Thomas Owens

Anyone want to term-check me? "Life Cycle Model" are things like Waterfall, Evolutionary Prototyping, Staged Delivery, Evolutionary Delivery that get you from requirements to release. "Methodology" is something that tells you steps - how you manage a project (like Scrum does) or how do to design/implementation (like XP), where some are more frameworks and others are more prescriptive.

Jimmy Hoffa

8:30 PM

@ThomasOwens "Life Cycle Model" are made up term. You am maker-upper.

Ixrec

for what little it's worth, that sounds plausible to me

Thomas Owens

@JimmyHoffa That's not what Steve McConnell said. He used the term life cycle model.

Scrum and Disciplined Agile Delivery is a methodology. You could theoretically use it for Waterfall, but it's more suited to Staged or Evolutionary Delivery (iterative and incremental things).

Ampt

@ThomasOwens that just means you're both maker-uppers

Thomas Owens

But what would you call other things? Kanban, for example. It's a practice.

Is it just that? A "Practice"?

Ixrec

I have no idea what Kanban is aside from the Jira setting by that name

enderland

8:32 PM

Kanban is a lean pinciple

Ampt

It's a mod power

Thomas Owens

@Ixrec It's a Japanese word that means...signpost, I think.

Ampt

got an annoying user? Kanban.

user114359

@GlenH7 blarg. The question is not a bad one, and certainly not too broad. I was able to answer it in a reasonable amount of space.

Thomas Owens

It's a graphical indication of work in progress and work status. A Kanban Board shows you your work items and where they are, usually in columns. You'll have a backlog column, one or more work in progress columns, and a done column. The things in your work in progress columns are limited in size.

Ixrec

8:33 PM

@ThomasOwens oh, 看板? technically it's more like signboard or billboard or the big sign you'd put on the front of a shop, but yeah basically

but I have no idea what the agiles mean by it

Thomas Owens

translate: 看板

(from zh-CHS) Kanban

Yes, that.

enderland

@Ixrec you know Japanese?

Thomas Owens

@Ixrec They mean what I just described. It's not an agile thing. It's a Lean thing.

Jimmy Hoffa

@ThomasOwens life style model be Tony Robbins. Him model style life. Waterfell, Revolutionary Protocopter, Staged Moon Landing, them is go: Make up steppers for makker uppers to made up. "Methology" are same like mading ups nunsense. SCRUM was implementrix from life model trial thing made up.

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user55340

Thomas Owens

8:34 PM

Wikipedia calls it かんばん

Ixrec

@enderland yep

Thomas Owens

translate: かんばん

(from Japanese) Kanban board

user55340

Make sure you have the happy face board too.

Ixrec

kana would make more sense for that usage

Thomas Owens

@Ixrec I don't know what that word means or implies.

Ixrec

8:35 PM

@MichaelT apparently it's a calendar

Robert Harvey

SCRUM is a thing in rugby.

Ixrec

I always assumed that's where the term came from

Robert Harvey

Rugby is a crazy sport.

Thomas Owens

If I develop my own process methodology, I will incorporate a Haka into it. Those videos of the New Zealanders doing the Haka strike fear into me. Therefore, it should strike fear into the hearts of those around the project, motivating them to contribute.

Daily stand up meeting? NONSENSE. Daily haka.

Ixrec

@ThomasOwens nothing important, I just meant it makes sense that the practice is called かんばん (kanban, without kanji) instead of 看板 (kanban, with the kanji meaning signboard) since that's not a meaning any of the existing kanji for it would normally imply

Jimmy Hoffa

8:38 PM

@ThomasOwens Process. ∀ m ∈ {makkerUps}. ∀ p ∈ {usedProcess}. PM: m → p

Thomas Owens

I'm not that familiar with the Japanese scripts.

But guys. A daily haka.

Ixrec

that sounds vaguely similar to hwacha, which would be awesome

Thomas Owens

@Ixrec More awesome.

Haka

The Haka (plural is the same as singular: haka) is a traditional ancestral war cry, dance, or challenge from the Māori people of New Zealand. It is a posture dance performed by a group, with vigorous movements and stamping of the feet with rhythmically shouted accompaniment. War haka were originally performed by warriors before a battle, proclaiming their strength and prowess in order to intimidate the opposition, but haka are also performed for various reasons: for welcoming distinguished guests, or to acknowledge great achievements, occasions or funerals, and kapa haka performance groups are...

user55340

agiletrail.com/2011/09/12/…

Ampt

8:42 PM

on my front page:

656

Q: Where did the notion of "one return only" come from?

I often talk to Java programmers who say "Don't put multiple return statements in the same method." When I ask them to tell me the reasons why, all I get is "The coding standard says so." or "It's confusing." When they show me solutions with a single return statement, the code looks uglier to me...

java coding-style coding-standards control-structures

burninate?

Jimmy Hoffa

@ThomasOwens

Agile ∈ {makkerUps}. Revelationary Release ∈ {makkerUps}. Staged Shakespear ∈ {makkerUps}. SCRUMptious ∈ {usedProcess}. Sixth Signal Sigma Ninja Belt ∈ {usedProcess}. KanBanRanALanDillyDingDong ∈ {usedProcess}. ITILUANDUTILME ∈ {usedProcess}.

Ampt

or at least closinate?

user55340

0

Q: What is the meaning of "static" in pseudo-code

This is a pseudo-code from "Artificial Intelligence: A modern approach" function Table-Driven-Agent(percept) returns action static: percepts, a sequence, initially empty table, a table, indexed by the percept sequences, initially fully specified append percept to the end of perce...

algorithms terminology

Jimmy Hoffa

@Ampt xkcd.com/1525/…

user55340

I wonder about the OP being a college instructor.

user114359

8:45 PM

@Ampt probably worth keeping that one around as reference. It has some good info in it.

Ampt

@Snowman ok, not burninate, I agree, but at least closinate

user55340

8:56 PM

1

A: Find the missing number in an undelimited string

Haskell, 115 bytes a#b=last$0:[c|c<-a,b==filter(/=c)a] maximum.map((\s->[s!!0..last s]#s).map read.words.concat).mapM(\c->[[c],c:" "]) The first line is a helper function definition, the second is the main anonymous function. Verify test cases (I had to run shorter tests because of time restri...

Duga

There is a checkbox when asking a question to answer your own question. I figured out the issue before posting, and wanted to help other programmers not waste time finding the answer the hard way. That is what this site is for. — Carl Fried Rice Gauss just now

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT this is decidable when the missing number crosses a power of 10? like 979899101102 ?

user55340

@JimmyHoffa I don't see why not.

user55340

Consider my answer on the p.se question.

Jimmy Hoffa

hmm I guess that would work.. it seems like given certain patterns it wouldn't but I fail to identify them

user55340

9:11 PM

@JimmyHoffa I've failed to fail too.

Jimmy Hoffa

ok, so that works. That's rather cool.

user55340

I do have a 10 boundary problem on there. 911 and the Haskell solution found it correctly

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT example? like 99101102?

user114359

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Q: Regarding the "one return only" question

Regarding this question: Where did the notion of “one return only” come from? What should be done with it? Nothing Close Delete Wiki lock Something else

discussion specific-question

user55340

@JimmyHoffa ideone.com/PqyUFm

user55340

9:18 PM

@JimmyHoffa and I forked and ran it. ideone.com/2V4y7Q

Ampt

is it possible to search for questions which reference that question?

Ixrec

@Ampt programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/linked/118703?lq=1

Jimmy Hoffa

@Ampt is it possible to find a missing question from a string of undelimited questions referencing that question?

Ixrec

I'm not sure how close "linked to" is to "references", but I think that's the relationship that's searchable

Ampt

@Ixrec awesome, thanks!

enderland

9:22 PM

enderland just watched coworkers play darts

Ampt

@Snowman Good idea, I've added my answer and thoughts to it as well.

user55340

@DeliriousSyntax a memory was tickled about languages when I was reminded of esolangs.org/wiki/Fission not sure why.

user55340

Btw, @JimmyHoffa added more to the book list.

user55340

github.com/the-whiteboard/the-whiteboard.github.io/blob/master/…

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT saw the commit, haven't poked into it yet

enderland

9:36 PM

@MichaelT I keep advertising Slack to people here :)

user55340

@enderland you read my comment on it?

Thomas Owens

I has a slack.

user55340

> Handing this book to your boss may or may not be a career limiting move. DeMarco is rather critical of bad management. The ideas presented are heretical in some organizations. And yet, it is one of those books that plants seeds of ideas that have the possibility for making a better working environment.

enderland

I think everyone here agrees with that book

Thomas Owens

I haven't read it yet.

enderland

9:38 PM

at least that I can tell

Thomas Owens

Wait...maybe that's not the one that I bought.

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT I'm not seeing how your algorithm fails on 911? Guess 1 digit means seed is 9 and next will be 10 or 11, test and success on 11 means 10 is missing..

user55340

@JimmyHoffa exactly. I failed to fail. It works.

Jimmy Hoffa

aye

user41796

@ThomasOwens Maybe Peopleware?

Thomas Owens

9:43 PM

@GlenH7 I've had Peopleware. I was talking to a friend who picked up the 3rd edition of Peopleware.

I've owned it for a while, though.

Ampt

@enderland the book or the communication software?

enderland

@Ampt book. hah

user55340

amazon.com/Slack-Getting-Burnout-Busywork-Efficiency/dp/… is a giant one box.

user41796

@ThomasOwens That was the other DeMarco book that had been discussed in here recently

user55340

Gah. Giant one box.

Ampt

9:45 PM

I thought it was fine :)

user55340

Two screens on phone.

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT so get 2 phones! Duh.

user55340

Or iPad with data plan.

enderland

10:06 PM

today is one of those days I want to work late because what I am doing is fun. take that @JimmyHoffa!

I even made a PR against our dev team's repo to fix a, ah, quirk that it has

though one of them jokingly told me I got fired. so. :|

Day 12: still not fired (yet).

Ampt

ok this is ridiculous. I'm sitting 15 feet from someone who is on a conference call with a conference room 15 feet behind me

I can hear her from both directions

psr

@enderland Must have been a variant of planning poker.

enderland

@psr way for calculating story points?

psr

@enderland Yes

enderland

@user2680392 did this solve your problem? — enderland yesterday

heh that got me a 2+ year old upvote/accept. :D

user55340

10:17 PM

@GlenH7 thinking about it - burnt ends is part of the dry BBQ tradition that goes from Kansas (as described in the Wikipedia article) through southern Missouri.

user55340

There was a place in the bootheel of MO that relatives lived near. They had brisket - it was slow cooked in a 55 gallon drum (health inspectors don't look) over several hours. And it was wonderfully dry. You had BBQ sauce if you wanted to add moisture to it.

user55340

I remember just adding a bit of tobasco sauce to it as a kid - more heat without too much more moisture.

Duga

Good question, but most likely off topic for SO. You may get a better response at Programmers.SE — NikolaiDante 50 secs ago

whatsisname

10:36 PM

outdoors.stackexchange.com/posts/10367/revisions

what an idiot

user55340

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_sexing - the accepted term

user15026

@whatsisname ....."a word I didn't like"...wtf

user15026

sex = genitals, gender = brain, sometimes they match in people sometimes they don't

user15026

But I am pretty sure the person is asking about chipmunks, so sex is an appropriate word.

user15026

sigh

whatsisname

10:45 PM

correct

user55340

But penguins!

Ixrec

until we are capable of communicating with chipmunks and learning what bizarre social norms they have imposed on themselves, there's probably no meaningful distinction between sex and gender in that context

but yes sex is the correct term

user55340

Roy and Silo

Roy and Silo (born 1987) are chinstrap penguins who were a same sex male pair in New York City's Central Park Zoo. They were noted by staff at the zoo in 1998 to be performing mating rituals, although no actual sexual acts were witnessed, and in 1999 attempted to hatch a rock as if it were an egg. This inspired zoo keepers to give them an egg from another pair of penguins who could not hatch it, resulting in the couple raising a chick which was named Tango. Tango herself formed a same sex relationship with another female penguin. Like many couples, Roy and Silo drifted apart after several years...

user15026

@MichaelT That's personification, if nothing else.

user15026

Like yes, samesex stuff happens in animals

user55340

10:47 PM

@AshleyNunn I'm just trying to be problematic here. And yes. Sex.

user15026

but we can't be like "excuse me tell me about your gender identity mr. penguin"

user15026

@Ixrec I'm more irritated by the "word I didn't like "remark than anything :p

whatsisname

yeah

Ixrec

indeed

whatsisname

and the person wasn't keen enough to edit it in the body of the question either

LET ME BE IGNORANT ALRIGHT

user55340

10:49 PM

Btw, please pose a resolution in Canada to have Mr. Cruz declared a citizen of the north. It would be hilarious to watch that play out.

Ixrec

also, if the goal is just to keep "sex" out of the title, it could be phrased as "tell if it's male of female" without using either word

user15026

@Ixrec That would solve it

psr

Chicken sexer is a career already. Maybe I can start a new kind of career as a chipmunk genderer. I would start with one good prospect for a client at least. (Though thinking about it, there might really be a market for a pet genderer - tell people what clothes their dog would prefer, etc.)

enderland

I'm building docker images in other docker images. This feels like inception

user55340

11:08 PM

@GlenH7 engineering question?

user55340

5

Q: Paracord rope strength

I have recently come into possession of many thousands of feet of paracord, more than any practical use would dictate. So this started me down the addictive path that is weaving and forming it into various more practical or at least decorative uses. One of the extremely easy knitting styles using...

rope paracord

user55340

@psr as long as you don't become a chicken sexter.

user55340

> Hey there cute hen. Show me some wing.

Jimmy Hoffa

11:59 PM

@MichaelT exactly. The sauce is for dripping or dipping, but not dousing with that KC brisket. I would love to get my hands on some Gates again..

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