The Whiteboard

user41796

12:11 AM

20k+'ers: Please help make this lame attempt at an answer disappear. It's bad enough they referenced w3schools. What's worse is that it doesn't address the OP's question.

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World building is a strange place:

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The calories don't scale the way you suggest. Vampire bats have a very high metabolic rate (due to small size and flying). Blood has around 900 calories per litre. As a human, you'd only need 2-3 litres to get enough calories, it is vitamins, like vitamin C, which are in short supply, but a suitable metabolism (which synthesised anything necessary) could fix that. — Neil Slater yesterday

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Btw, if you want to troll code review... write some code for this... and post it on code review:

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A: FizzBuzz on Large Scale

Basically, you would change the FizzBuzz algorithm so that, instead of two hard-coded checks for divisibility, you check for divisibility against all elements of a collection of "tuples", containing the number to check against and the word or syllable that should be substituted. My C++ is more t...

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in The 2nd Monitor, 22 mins ago, by mjolka

@Phrancis i dare you to come up with a question that involves linked lists, prime numbers, and fizzbuzz

user41796

12:25 AM

@rolfl Hey, hey, hey now. You gotta beat your own into submission. We can't do all the heavy lifting for you. I mean, it was one thing when y'all were beta. But you're a full-fledged site now. You need to beat that out on your own now. We're happy to give you tips on how to do it, but you gotta step up and do it at this point.

user41796

12:35 AM

@rolfl - I caught up with the rest of the conversation and it turned more serious than I had expected. In fairness, my immediately earlier comment was was pretty much completely in jest. But I now realize that humor may have fallen flat in light of the additional conversation that took place. So feel free to completely disregard. I would have deleted the comment but am lacking that magical diamond that would have made that work.

rolfl

It's all good, @GlenH7 - if things were always rosy there would be no need for the exception handlers.

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@GlenH7 you know, if prog/Aviv ever ~~starts~~ finishes writing code (rather than worrying about typing or singletons or whatnot), I'll feel sorry for CodeReview.

rolfl

We have some super-askers that manage to be a conundrum for us....

JavaDeveloper

3.3k 1 12 50

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@MichaelT Glad I wasn't sipping on anything when I read that.

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Aviv Cohn, Israel

4.7k 2 14 45

object-oriented design design-patterns java mvc virtual-machine object-oriented-design

rolfl

12:49 AM

Sorry, JD 1-ups your Aviv.

user55340

@rolfl yea, but Aviv has those hot question topics that get absurd votes.

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159

Q: What's wrong with comments that explain complex code?

A lot of people claim that "comments should explain 'why', but not 'how'". Others say that "code should be self-documenting" and comments should be scarce. Robert C. Martin claims that (rephrased to my own words) often "comments are apologies for badly written code". My question is the following...

programming-practices documentation comments complexity simplicity

rolfl

Actually, I crunched some numbers..... and he's one of our most useful assets, and, technically, is worth it....

user55340

btw, @GlenH7 already out of close votes. Ampt went on a close spree when I pointed him to job-market so.. yea... did my 20, still see 7 in the queue and out of close votes.

rolfl

data.stackexchange.com/codereview/query/206619/…

user41796

12:53 AM

@MichaelT That explains the 30 in the queue when I checked it past 0 GMT just recently

rolfl

Sort that by 'ValueAdd', and you get an approximate idea of who's the most useful person to have around ;-)

user55340

@rolfl Neat query...

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Sorted by rep:

rolfl

The 'user' person on programmers votes a lot.

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rolfl

12:55 AM

You have a negative value-add ;-)

lots of downvoting?

user41796

@rolfl Someone's gotta take out the trash

user55340

@rolfl 9988 so far.

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Though, thats an all time.

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Only 2691 of my down votes are still on the site.

user55340

I'll also point out that feedback ratio.

rolfl

12:56 AM

I put that query together to track the feed-back ratio, which I thought was significant at the time.

user55340

Sorted by up votes out:

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Sorted by down votes out, I'm #2.

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And no one will ever catch up to gnat.

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rolfl

1:00 AM

Probably not.... though, by my rekoning, at 40 votes a day .... that's almost 2.5 years.

user55340

I sometimes cast 80 votes/day on SO.

rolfl

if you can 'freeze' his activity.... hmmmm suspensions anyone?

user55340

If you cast 40 down votes on questions that will be deleted once down voted between the vote reset and roomba, when the questions are deleted, you get the votes back to cast again.

rolfl

That's a lot of downvotes on subsequently-delete questions... or is SO got a higher limit?

user55340

go to town - that number used to be higher.

user55340

1:02 AM

You sometimes find some 'great' questions in there that... I have no idea how they got an up vote.

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Q: HTML5 the future of all programming?

Hi my teacher was lecturing today and he was talking about HTML 5 and how all content will be heading towards the web. He basically described a world where OS's are irrelevant because all programs (except legacy) will be made in html 5 on the web so that they can be accessed anywhere. He was desc...

html5

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Your teacher is smoking something good, please send me a sample. — adeneo Sep 26 '11 at 21:19

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Q: How to use progress bar from formaline module?

I want to show progress bar from server on client side. Any example how to do it ? How to transfer current progress bar to client regardles of main upload connection ?

node.js

user55340

Too many results for people getting paid to wait in line. When the iPhone 3G (or was it 3Gs?) I recall the line was a several day line in SF. So people waited. A head hunter went down the line asking if the person had a job, if they were going back to a job or if they needed one... there were even some interviews conducted of people waiting in line.

user55340

One of my regrets of Cali was going to the Palo Alto apple store to get my day 1 items. Apparently, Woz was at Valley Fair.

user55340

1:15 AM

gizmodo.com/5297098/…

Shog9

1:28 AM

@MichaelT Nice!

user55340

I still want a summer day again:

user55340

@Shog9 I assume you also got my earlier messages?

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2 days ago, by MichaelT

@shog9 various links from the evening: http://shagie.smugmug.com http://www.wyders.com/wyders-cider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_de_Asis_Mission_Church http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taos_Plaza#American_flag http://www.oplobster.com http://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/273240/ http://www.cascalrestaurant.com/ http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/q/6910/ http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/faq-proposed

Shog9

somewhere; still going through my inbox

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1:30 AM

2 days ago, by MichaelT

and then don't miss http://www.trulia.com/local/san-francisco-ca/tiles:1|points:1_crime - check out that little bit of color just north of the airport.

Jimmy Hoffa

1:43 AM

Would you think that a red flag?

I suppose I oughtn't think so, every company's process is unique and terribad it seems... I guess this is just their unique and terribad process

@MichaelT this looks...pleasing...

user55340

From what I've seen with the interview process in many places, there's a quick HR filter with buzzword compatibility checklists on the phone. Next, there is the code test of some sort (talk to an engineer) to make sure you can actually code and then a third one. That's where they sit down and talk with you about the place, experiences and the like.

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The first two are very impersonal.

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@JimmyHoffa It does. I want it to be warm so I can make it.

user55340

I'm not about to be making it when its 50F outside. Its not an ice-cream time.

user15026

@MichaelT oooh want

Jimmy Hoffa

1:48 AM

@MichaelT no, 50f is whiskey and stout time

user55340

@JimmyHoffa brandy and grand mariner.

user55340

Though, I also got some cider, cranberry juice, and red wine (along with identifying all the cider spices)...

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT eh, maybe guinness and grand marnier. Brandy's good, but not dry enough in flavor for mixing with something so sweet.

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@AshleyNunn theicecreambar.com/frozen_pint/peach-lambic

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Jimmy Hoffa

1:49 AM

@MichaelT I do have a bottle of spiced mead upstairs...

user15026

@MichaelT yuuuuuuuum

user55340

The problem - that place only has its goods in the US southeast from Chattanooga to Atlanta... though, I suspect you might know of someone with access to that area.

user15026

@MichaelT You know, I just might :)

user55340

Thats where that ice cream is sold.

user15026

1:51 AM

@MichaelT Pretty sure I can find a reason to swing down there :D

user15026

(Because seriously that sounds yummy)

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@AshleyNunn theicecreambar.com

Jimmy Hoffa

liquormart.com/…

^-- sitting on my fridge

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cedarcreekwinery.com/?q=wines/CedarburgSpice

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^-- in my wine rack

user55340

1:52 AM

> A flavorful sweet red wine full of spices, such as orange peel, lemon peel, cinnamon, cloves and allspice.

Jimmy Hoffa

Now that makes alright with 50f. Though now that you mentioned it, I really do kinda want to try a guinness with grand marnier...

user15026

@MichaelT The Bourbon Butter Pecan looks excellent. Although I think I would happily try my way through the menu

Jimmy Hoffa

I quite like guinness extra dry moreso than their normal, I think that might go great with grand marnier...

user55340

@rolfl more seriously though, yes. Its not uncommon for deleted conversations. Many (all?) of the regulars are room owners, so we can see deleted messages. And it helps having personal information leak. What is said in deleted messages isn't talked about in public... and so information relating to personal situations can sometimes be found there.

Jimmy Hoffa

We also like to talk about the weather a lot.

user55340

1:55 AM

@JimmyHoffa Thursday should be nice for photography again.

user15026

@MichaelT Went for a walk today, found some trees with nice colours. :)

rolfl

@MichaelT That's an interesting twist on chat.

Jimmy Hoffa

And it doesn't pop up a box every time asking you to use your real name. In fact, there's no way to set your name at all. You just have to keep reminding people who you are.

user55340

The people who are there for it can see it and read it. But you have to page through the transcript (back, one day at a time) to actually get to see the messages if you wanted to hunt for it. Deleted messages don't show up in the transcript at all.

Jimmy Hoffa

I humbly submit that this is SDD, you can fill in the S driving this development on your own. — Jimmy Hoffa 6 secs ago

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2:02 AM

Jan 9 at 17:16, by Thomas Owens

o_o

user55340

Start reading there. You could go back, but it wouldn't make sense.... unless you wanted to page back to January.

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Jan 9 at 18:08, by Ampt

If that answer gets more than 3 votes I'm gonna be a little upset

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Jan 9 at 18:10, by Ampt

0

A: What is meant by "Now you have two problems"?

The problem is that regex is a complicated beast, and you only solve your problem if you use regex perfectly. If you don't, you end up with 2 problems: your original problem and regex. You claim that it can do the work of a hundred lines of code, but you could also make the argument that 100 li...

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A: What is meant by "Now you have two problems"?

The problem is that regex is a complicated beast, and you only solve your problem if you use regex perfectly. If you don't, you end up with 2 problems: your original problem and regex. You claim that it can do the work of a hundred lines of code, but you could also make the argument that 100 li...

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@JimmyHoffa barnonedrinks.com/drinks/f/french-connection-2-7058.html

user55340

2:07 AM

Which itself looks like a variation on the sidecar:

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Sidecar (cocktail)

The Sidecar is a classic cocktail traditionally made with cognac, orange liqueur (Cointreau, Grand Marnier, Grand Gala or another triple sec), and lemon juice. In its ingredients, the drink is perhaps most closely related to the older Brandy Daisy, which differs both in presentation and in proportions of its components. == Origin == The exact origin of the Sidecar is unclear, but it is thought to have been invented around the end of World War I in either London or Paris. The drink was directly named for the motorcycle attachment, the drink appears in literature as early as 1907. The Ritz Hotel...

user15026

For some reason I find the idea of drinking orange flavoured liqueur unpleasant, although I've not really tried it much

Jimmy Hoffa

eh.. not a bit fan of cognag personally, found it had a bit much of a bite and the flavor wasn't really to my liking, also when I tried to get my head around it I found there's no such thing as a cheap enough one to really make it worth working up a taste for. Plenty of good whiskey's out there that won't hit your pocket book nearly as bad

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@AshleyNunn There is a great variety in it. Some are quite good.

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@JimmyHoffa That's where the grand mariner comes into play. It mixes very nicely.

user55340

2:10 AM

Btw, nice book for photography / drink: books.google.com/…

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT I imagine, that could be good. The side car I would be opposed to on the grounds that sour really doesn't blend well with hard liquors in general, but rather accentuates the alcoholic bite more often then not.

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which for some reason isn't linking right.

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Jimmy Hoffa

counter to what you would think, in my practice I've learned sweet actually blends well with hard liquor to change the whole flavor quite well, sour can be added only insofar as it's weighted by something sweet

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@JimmyHoffa But grand mariner isn't exactly 'sweet'

Jimmy Hoffa

2:13 AM

otherwise it tends to bring out the phenol and you can taste both the sour and the liquor too clearly

user55340

its not straight up either, but the flavor of each mixes cleanly into the other without disturbing their essence.

Jimmy Hoffa

for instance: Rum + Coke + Lime, but never Rum + Lime

Rum + Simple Syrup + Lime can work, though you'd need to water it down so tossing in club soda would probably do

which is why dark and stormy's are good

Ginger ale has the right amount of sweet to balance it's sour

@MichaelT it's not sour though, that's my point: Sour must be balanced against sweet before mixing

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@AshleyNunn For orange though... you've got grand mariner on the bitter side of the spectrum to triple sec on the sweet. There's cointreau in there and the Curaçao which aren't orange per say, but a citrus flavor similar to it.

Jimmy Hoffa

my go to when I want a cocktail is generally a Perfect Manhattan or Dark Rum/Coke/Lime

Manhattan (cocktail)

A Manhattan is a cocktail made with whiskey, sweet vermouth, and bitters. Commonly used whiskeys include rye (the traditional choice), Canadian whisky (simply called Rye in Canada), bourbon, blended whiskey and Tennessee whiskey. The cocktail is often stirred and strained into a cocktail glass, where it is garnished with a Maraschino cherry with a stem. A Manhattan is also frequently served on the rocks in a lowball glass. The whiskey-based Manhattan is one of five cocktails named for one of New York City's five boroughs, but is perhaps most closely related to the Brooklyn cocktail, a mix utilizing...

"Perfect" = half sweet vermouth half dry vermouth

(sweet vermouth is a bit too strong on it's own, cutting it with the dry gives the right balance I find)

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> Gran Gala is a rusty orange colour, with a vivid nose of bitter-orange zest and Cognac. There is also something else in the background which reminded me a little of Maraschino, though it is very subtle. In the mouth an initial mild orange sweetness gives way to a more bitter orange along with some Cognac notes, aromatics and a mild burn. The finish is long, with a mixture of sweet and bitter orange, Cognac and spice.

Gran Gala is an interesting drink which has many of the typical brandy-based orange liqueur characteristics, yet also has a few surprises up its sleeve. The additional spice…

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2:19 AM

> Grand Marnier is a deep golden amber colour, with a medium Cognac nose that has a slight heat to it. There is a a mild orange background, which has a notably bitter edge. On sipping you get a strong bitter-sweet orange flavour which is followed up by some Cognac notes and a slight burn. This burn continues through a long finish that has a nice mixture of bitter and sweet orange hints behind the Cognac.

I wasn’t surprised when I learned this one was Grand Marnier. It has a nice complexity but remains balanced and approachable, making it a really good orange liqueur for sipping. In cocktai…

user15026

I love how much you guys have contributed to my alcohol education.

Jimmy Hoffa

@AshleyNunn Learn to program and you'll find that education comes in mighty handy...

user55340

Hmm... where was that comment about doing both at the same time?

user55340

My drinking preference for cocktails appears to center around variations where brandy (or something similar) is the dominant flavor.

Jimmy Hoffa

Sep 26 at 3:31, by MichaelT

> Every programmer occasionally, when nobody's home, turns off the lights, pours a glass of scotch, puts on some light German electronica, and opens up a file on their computer. It's a different file for every programmer. Sometimes they wrote it, sometimes they found it and knew they had to save it. They read over the lines, and weep at their beauty, then the tears turn bitter as they remember the rest of the files and the inevitable collapse of all that is good and true in the world.

user15026

2:21 AM

@JimmyHoffa Not sure I would ever dev. I am not really all that good at it, despite many many attempts. (Although I wrote a badass English paper after a bottle of strawberry wine once...) I am still working on stuff related to computer things though (like various certification things because that seems to be the easiest way to prove I know things)

user55340

I was thinking of this one:

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Sep 26 at 3:35, by MichaelT

Our secret is that we can do it and drink at the same time.

user55340

Apricot brandy is one of my favorites... apricot brandy, OJ, gin. Equal parts. Shake with ice, serve straight up.

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT anybody who's ever known a programmer is fully aware that's no secret

user55340

@JimmyHoffa its the people who arn't programmers and don't know that secret.

user15026

2:24 AM

I'm not one, but I am aware of it :)

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT have to say, some of the drinks you mention like this do sound quite tasty, very creative fruit-based drinks where I've tended to avoid the fruity drinks as their profile is usually a bit too sweet for me, but some of the stuff you've mentioned sounds pretty well balanced

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The other side of my drinking preference is crisp, clear, citrus flavors. Limoncello, triple sec, lime juice.

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Btw, stumbled across this as an actual article on wikipedia... its really good.

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Limonana

Limonana (Hebrew: לימונענע‎; Arabic: ليمون نعناع‎) is a type of lemonade made from freshly-squeezed lemon juice and mint leaves that is popular in Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria. == Etymology == Limonana is a portmanteau of the Hebrew and Arabic words limon (Hebrew: לימון‎, Arabic: ليمون‎, meaning lemon) and nana (Hebrew: נענע‎, Arabic: نعناع‎, meaning mint), referring to its two main ingredients, freshly-squeezed lemon juice and mint leaves. == History == Limonana may have originated in Syria or Turkey. In Israel, the name came from an advertising campaign conducted in the early 1990s...

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Had it in a Mediterranean cafe in Mountain View awhile back.

user15026

2:26 AM

@MichaelT That sounds excellent. I love citrus though

user15026

(My mom used to buy me lemons to eat when I would get tired of mealy winter apples, just because)

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT sounds delicious, makes me think of:

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Limoncello

Limoncello (Italian pronunciation: [limonˈtʃɛllo]) is an Italian lemon liqueur mainly produced in Southern Italy, especially in the region around the Gulf of Naples, the Sorrentine Peninsula and the coast of Amalfi and islands of Procida, Ischia and Capri. It is also produced in Puglia, Sicily, Sardinia, Menton in France, and the Maltese island of Gozo. Although there is debate about the exact origin of the drink, it is at least one hundred years old. Traditionally, it is made from the zest of Femminello St. Teresa lemons, also known as Sorrento lemons or Sfusato Lemons. Lemon zest, or peels without...

user15026

@MichaelT ooooh, this would totally be up my alley

user55340

2 mins ago, by MichaelT

The other side of my drinking preference is crisp, clear, citrus flavors. Limoncello, triple sec, lime juice.

user55340

2:28 AM

triple sec is a sweet orange liquor.

user55340

And you better know what lime juice is.

user15026

giggles I do, no worries there

user55340

The neat thing with limoncello is there's two types... regular and cream.

Jimmy Hoffa

you should get your hands on a pack of the bundaberg lemon lime and bitters, I pick it up at world market whenever I'm there, not the same flavor at all as your sprite/7-ups etc, way way better

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Jimmy Hoffa

2:28 AM

worldmarket.com/product/bundaberg-lemon-lime--bitters.do

user55340

If you make that drink (the lemon, orange, lime one) - try it with both... they are the same, but different.

user15026

@JimmyHoffa This also sounds great

user55340

The regular one is a crisp flavor... a little bit of bite to the tongue on it. While the cream smooths it out - both in flavor and actual texture of the drink too.

user15026

@MichaelT Which drink?

user55340

@AshleyNunn limoncello, triple sec, lime juice. Equal parts.

user15026

2:30 AM

@MichaelT That sounds doable :D

user15026

I mean I would need to visit a LCBO, but perhaps as a celebratory thing, if all works out in the next few days....

Jimmy Hoffa

worldmarket.com/product/fentimans-rose-lemonade.do <-- Rose Lemonade, also quite yummy

user55340

Now, something that I stumbled across while looking... that @Shog9 might poke at too (it was a topic of conversation): ohgo.sh/archive/… mustard liqueur.

Jimmy Hoffa

> This English twist on an American favorite is made by brewing and fermenting herbs and milled roots over seven days, a time honored practice trademarked by Thomas Fentiman in 1905. The lemonade is then infused with ginger spice and pure rose extract for its pink color and signature taste.

user15026

@MichaelT Weeeeird.

user55340

2:32 AM

@AshleyNunn cocktails.about.com/od/spirits/r/garlic_bsl_infs.htm

user55340

Hmm.. ohgo.sh/archive/mr-antoni-pencillin-sam-ross-cocktail

user55340

> 2 oz blended Scotch
¾ oz honey-ginger syrup
¾ oz lemon juice
¼ oz Islay Scotch
Shake all ingredients except whisky and strain in to an ice-filled old-fashioned glass. Float Islay whisky on top.

user15026

@MichaelT That might work nice in a caesar and I like those

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT THAT IS AN AFFRONT TO THE CONCEPT OF SCOTCH AND I WON'T STAND FOR IT

user55340

@JimmyHoffa I was wondering what you'd say.

Jimmy Hoffa

2:38 AM

...mixed drink...made with...islay scotch....want...to...flag as offensive...sooo...badly...

user55340

From ohgo.sh/archive/…

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> Sometimes a cocktail recipe is so intriguing you can’t help but run out to buy the necessary ingredients so you can mix one up. Sometimes a cocktail recipe is so bizarre you’re frightened to even put the ingredients together in a tin in case the extraordinary mixture results in some horrifying science-fiction-esque accident might occur. The Laphroaig Project is both of these.

They say Scotch isn’t really a spirit for mixing… that it is best enjoyed in a glass on its own with perhaps a drop of water or an ice cube at a push. The Laphroaig Project turns this conviction on its head, choosin…

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Though, that one... I'm a bit uncertain of.

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> 1 oz Green Chartreuse
1 oz lemon juice
½ oz Laphroaig Quarter Cask
½ oz maraschino
¼ oz Yellow Chartreuse
2 dashes Fee Brothers Peach Bitters
Shake all ingredients with ice and strain in to an ice-filled old-fashioned glass. Garnish with lemon zest twist.

user55340

Still thinking about this apricot brandy drink...

user55340

2:41 AM

> 1½ oz gin
1½ oz dry vermouth
½ oz Cointreau
½ oz apricot brandy
Shake all ingredients with ice and fine-strain in to a cocktail glass. Garish with a lemon zest twist.

Jimmy Hoffa

i just.... i just hate you so much right now... not just scotch, but Laphroaig...agh...that is ruination of all that is good and holy in this world...if I believed in god, and I'm not saying I do, but if I did I'm pretty sure the existence of Laphroaig would play at least 60% into the reason...

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> 1 oz Yellow Chartreuse
1 oz apricot brandy
¼ oz absinthe
Shake all ingredients with ice and fine-strain in to a cocktail glass. Garish with an orange zest twist.

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> Even reduced to just a ¼ oz the absinthe makes a strong impression on the drink, but the Chartreuse stands its ground providing a sweet herbal start to the drink. The apricot brandy remains in the background, probably not helped by the fact the Giffard brandy is fairly light in flavour. Nonetheless, it offers a constant hint of apricot throughout the drink and the overall result, whilst pretty sweet, is quite interesting.

Jimmy Hoffa

@MichaelT defiler

user55340

But admit it, aren't you just a tad bit curious about that?

Jimmy Hoffa

2:46 AM

@MichaelT the only reason I didn't flag as offensive is because the other 40% of the reason I could ever believe in god is the existence of ginger. I eat the stuff raw, make tea by just boiling raw fresh ginger and not even straining all the chunks out, my favorite hot sauce is:

user15026

I am but I don't think I have ever actually had scotch so I am missing a level of appreciation

user55340

3:07 AM

@WorldEngineer btw, make sure you read all the Lazarus Long quotes: phil-can.com/john/memorium/Notebooks%20of%20Lazarus%20Long.pdf

user55340

> Never try to out stubborn a cat.

user15026

@MichaelT I like these!

user55340

3:19 AM

@AshleyNunn an issue with that pdf is it gets the order wrong.

user15026

@MichaelT Oh, there is an intended order?

user55340

If you have the opportunity, get the illuminated version.

user55340

amazon.com/Notebooks-Lazarus-Long-Robert-Heinlein/dp/0876544731

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3:24 AM

user15026

oh, very pretty

bhuvin

6:44 AM

Hi guys ...

There's a common topic i wanted inputs on ...

retrodev

9:34 AM

Hello all,

I'm learning C on my own for pleasure and have no mentors available. I've worked through K&R and have written some toy town programs, but I don't feel like I could go and write something serious.

I've bought "C: A Reference Manual, 5th Ed", and also "Advanced Unix Programming, 2nd Ed" by Rochkind.

I think that moving onto Advanced Unix Programming would be premature because I feel like I need to master the standard library before getting into Unix specific low level stuff. Similarly, "C: A Reference Manual" seems too much like just a reference.