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12:11 AM
20k+'ers: Please help make this lame attempt at an answer disappear. It's bad enough they referenced w3schools. What's worse is that it doesn't address the OP's question.
World building is a strange place:
The calories don't scale the way you suggest. Vampire bats have a very high metabolic rate (due to small size and flying). Blood has around 900 calories per litre. As a human, you'd only need 2-3 litres to get enough calories, it is vitamins, like vitamin C, which are in short supply, but a suitable metabolism (which synthesised anything necessary) could fix that. — Neil Slater yesterday
Btw, if you want to troll code review... write some code for this... and post it on code review:
A: FizzBuzz on Large Scale

KeithSBasically, you would change the FizzBuzz algorithm so that, instead of two hard-coded checks for divisibility, you check for divisibility against all elements of a collection of "tuples", containing the number to check against and the word or syllable that should be substituted. My C++ is more t...

in The 2nd Monitor, 22 mins ago, by mjolka
@Phrancis i dare you to come up with a question that involves linked lists, prime numbers, and fizzbuzz
12:25 AM
@rolfl Hey, hey, hey now. You gotta beat your own into submission. We can't do all the heavy lifting for you. I mean, it was one thing when y'all were beta. But you're a full-fledged site now. You need to beat that out on your own now. We're happy to give you tips on how to do it, but you gotta step up and do it at this point.
12:35 AM
@rolfl - I caught up with the rest of the conversation and it turned more serious than I had expected. In fairness, my immediately earlier comment was was pretty much completely in jest. But I now realize that humor may have fallen flat in light of the additional conversation that took place. So feel free to completely disregard. I would have deleted the comment but am lacking that magical diamond that would have made that work.
It's all good, @GlenH7 - if things were always rosy there would be no need for the exception handlers.
@GlenH7 you know, if prog/Aviv ever starts finishes writing code (rather than worrying about typing or singletons or whatnot), I'll feel sorry for CodeReview.
We have some super-askers that manage to be a conundrum for us....
@MichaelT Glad I wasn't sipping on anything when I read that.
12:49 AM
Sorry, JD 1-ups your Aviv.
@rolfl yea, but Aviv has those hot question topics that get absurd votes.
Q: What's wrong with comments that explain complex code?

Aviv CohnA lot of people claim that "comments should explain 'why', but not 'how'". Others say that "code should be self-documenting" and comments should be scarce. Robert C. Martin claims that (rephrased to my own words) often "comments are apologies for badly written code". My question is the following...

Actually, I crunched some numbers..... and he's one of our most useful assets, and, technically, is worth it....
btw, @GlenH7 already out of close votes. Ampt went on a close spree when I pointed him to so.. yea... did my 20, still see 7 in the queue and out of close votes.
12:53 AM
@MichaelT That explains the 30 in the queue when I checked it past 0 GMT just recently
Sort that by 'ValueAdd', and you get an approximate idea of who's the most useful person to have around ;-)
@rolfl Neat query...
Sorted by rep:
The 'user' person on programmers votes a lot.
12:55 AM
You have a negative value-add ;-)
lots of downvoting?
@rolfl Someone's gotta take out the trash
@rolfl 9988 so far.
Though, thats an all time.
Only 2691 of my down votes are still on the site.
I'll also point out that feedback ratio.
12:56 AM
I put that query together to track the feed-back ratio, which I thought was significant at the time.
Sorted by up votes out:
Sorted by down votes out, I'm #2.
And no one will ever catch up to gnat.
1:00 AM
Probably not.... though, by my rekoning, at 40 votes a day .... that's almost 2.5 years.
I sometimes cast 80 votes/day on SO.
if you can 'freeze' his activity.... hmmmm suspensions anyone?
If you cast 40 down votes on questions that will be deleted once down voted between the vote reset and roomba, when the questions are deleted, you get the votes back to cast again.
That's a lot of downvotes on subsequently-delete questions... or is SO got a higher limit?
go to town - that number used to be higher.
1:02 AM
You sometimes find some 'great' questions in there that... I have no idea how they got an up vote.
Q: HTML5 the future of all programming?

JsonMichaelsHi my teacher was lecturing today and he was talking about HTML 5 and how all content will be heading towards the web. He basically described a world where OS's are irrelevant because all programs (except legacy) will be made in html 5 on the web so that they can be accessed anywhere. He was desc...

Your teacher is smoking something good, please send me a sample. — adeneo Sep 26 '11 at 21:19
Q: How to use progress bar from formaline module?

BdfyI want to show progress bar from server on client side. Any example how to do it ? How to transfer current progress bar to client regardles of main upload connection ?

Too many results for people getting paid to wait in line. When the iPhone 3G (or was it 3Gs?) I recall the line was a several day line in SF. So people waited. A head hunter went down the line asking if the person had a job, if they were going back to a job or if they needed one... there were even some interviews conducted of people waiting in line.
One of my regrets of Cali was going to the Palo Alto apple store to get my day 1 items. Apparently, Woz was at Valley Fair.
1:28 AM
@MichaelT Nice!
I still want a summer day again:
@Shog9 I assume you also got my earlier messages?
2 days ago, by MichaelT
@shog9 various links from the evening: http://shagie.smugmug.com http://www.wyders.com/wyders-cider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_de_Asis_Mission_Church http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taos_Plaza#American_flag http://www.oplobster.com http://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/273240/ http://www.cascalrestaurant.com/ http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/q/6910/ http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/faq-proposed
somewhere; still going through my inbox
1:30 AM
2 days ago, by MichaelT
and then don't miss http://www.trulia.com/local/san-francisco-ca/tiles:1|points:1_crime - check out that little bit of color just north of the airport.
1:43 AM
Would you think that a red flag?
I suppose I oughtn't think so, every company's process is unique and terribad it seems... I guess this is just their unique and terribad process
@MichaelT this looks...pleasing...
From what I've seen with the interview process in many places, there's a quick HR filter with buzzword compatibility checklists on the phone. Next, there is the code test of some sort (talk to an engineer) to make sure you can actually code and then a third one. That's where they sit down and talk with you about the place, experiences and the like.
The first two are very impersonal.
@JimmyHoffa It does. I want it to be warm so I can make it.
I'm not about to be making it when its 50F outside. Its not an ice-cream time.
@MichaelT oooh want
1:48 AM
@MichaelT no, 50f is whiskey and stout time
@JimmyHoffa brandy and grand mariner.
Though, I also got some cider, cranberry juice, and red wine (along with identifying all the cider spices)...
@MichaelT eh, maybe guinness and grand marnier. Brandy's good, but not dry enough in flavor for mixing with something so sweet.
1:49 AM
@MichaelT I do have a bottle of spiced mead upstairs...
@MichaelT yuuuuuuuum
The problem - that place only has its goods in the US southeast from Chattanooga to Atlanta... though, I suspect you might know of someone with access to that area.
@MichaelT You know, I just might :)
Thats where that ice cream is sold.
1:51 AM
@MichaelT Pretty sure I can find a reason to swing down there :D
(Because seriously that sounds yummy)
^-- sitting on my fridge
^-- in my wine rack
> A flavorful sweet red wine full of spices, such as orange peel, lemon peel, cinnamon, cloves and allspice.
1:53 AM
Now that makes alright with 50f. Though now that you mentioned it, I really do kinda want to try a guinness with grand marnier...
@MichaelT The Bourbon Butter Pecan looks excellent. Although I think I would happily try my way through the menu
I quite like guinness extra dry moreso than their normal, I think that might go great with grand marnier...
@rolfl more seriously though, yes. Its not uncommon for deleted conversations. Many (all?) of the regulars are room owners, so we can see deleted messages. And it helps having personal information leak. What is said in deleted messages isn't talked about in public... and so information relating to personal situations can sometimes be found there.
We also like to talk about the weather a lot.
@JimmyHoffa Thursday should be nice for photography again.
1:56 AM
@MichaelT Went for a walk today, found some trees with nice colours. :)
@MichaelT That's an interesting twist on chat.
The people who are there for it can see it and read it. But you have to page through the transcript (back, one day at a time) to actually get to see the messages if you wanted to hunt for it. Deleted messages don't show up in the transcript at all.
I humbly submit that this is SDD, you can fill in the S driving this development on your own. — Jimmy Hoffa 6 secs ago
Jan 9 at 17:16, by Thomas Owens
2:03 AM
Start reading there. You could go back, but it wouldn't make sense.... unless you wanted to page back to January.
Jan 9 at 18:08, by Ampt
If that answer gets more than 3 votes I'm gonna be a little upset
Jan 9 at 18:10, by Ampt
A: What is meant by "Now you have two problems"?

AmptThe problem is that regex is a complicated beast, and you only solve your problem if you use regex perfectly. If you don't, you end up with 2 problems: your original problem and regex. You claim that it can do the work of a hundred lines of code, but you could also make the argument that 100 li...

A: What is meant by "Now you have two problems"?

AmptThe problem is that regex is a complicated beast, and you only solve your problem if you use regex perfectly. If you don't, you end up with 2 problems: your original problem and regex. You claim that it can do the work of a hundred lines of code, but you could also make the argument that 100 li...

Which itself looks like a variation on the sidecar:
2:07 AM
The Sidecar is a classic cocktail traditionally made with cognac, orange liqueur (Cointreau, Grand Marnier, Grand Gala or another triple sec), and lemon juice. In its ingredients, the drink is perhaps most closely related to the older Brandy Daisy, which differs both in presentation and in proportions of its components. == Origin == The exact origin of the Sidecar is unclear, but it is thought to have been invented around the end of World War I in either London or Paris. The drink was directly named for the motorcycle attachment, the drink appears in literature as early as 1907. The Ritz Hotel...
For some reason I find the idea of drinking orange flavoured liqueur unpleasant, although I've not really tried it much
eh.. not a bit fan of cognag personally, found it had a bit much of a bite and the flavor wasn't really to my liking, also when I tried to get my head around it I found there's no such thing as a cheap enough one to really make it worth working up a taste for. Plenty of good whiskey's out there that won't hit your pocket book nearly as bad
@AshleyNunn There is a great variety in it. Some are quite good.
@JimmyHoffa That's where the grand mariner comes into play. It mixes very nicely.
Btw, nice book for photography / drink: books.google.com/…
2:11 AM
@MichaelT I imagine, that could be good. The side car I would be opposed to on the grounds that sour really doesn't blend well with hard liquors in general, but rather accentuates the alcoholic bite more often then not.
which for some reason isn't linking right.
counter to what you would think, in my practice I've learned sweet actually blends well with hard liquor to change the whole flavor quite well, sour can be added only insofar as it's weighted by something sweet
@JimmyHoffa But grand mariner isn't exactly 'sweet'
otherwise it tends to bring out the phenol and you can taste both the sour and the liquor too clearly
2:14 AM
its not straight up either, but the flavor of each mixes cleanly into the other without disturbing their essence.
for instance: Rum + Coke + Lime, but never Rum + Lime
Rum + Simple Syrup + Lime can work, though you'd need to water it down so tossing in club soda would probably do
which is why dark and stormy's are good
Ginger ale has the right amount of sweet to balance it's sour
@MichaelT it's not sour though, that's my point: Sour must be balanced against sweet before mixing
@AshleyNunn For orange though... you've got grand mariner on the bitter side of the spectrum to triple sec on the sweet. There's cointreau in there and the Curaçao which aren't orange per say, but a citrus flavor similar to it.
my go to when I want a cocktail is generally a Perfect Manhattan or Dark Rum/Coke/Lime
A Manhattan is a cocktail made with whiskey, sweet vermouth, and bitters. Commonly used whiskeys include rye (the traditional choice), Canadian whisky (simply called Rye in Canada), bourbon, blended whiskey and Tennessee whiskey. The cocktail is often stirred and strained into a cocktail glass, where it is garnished with a Maraschino cherry with a stem. A Manhattan is also frequently served on the rocks in a lowball glass. The whiskey-based Manhattan is one of five cocktails named for one of New York City's five boroughs, but is perhaps most closely related to the Brooklyn cocktail, a mix utilizing...
"Perfect" = half sweet vermouth half dry vermouth
(sweet vermouth is a bit too strong on it's own, cutting it with the dry gives the right balance I find)
> Gran Gala is a rusty orange colour, with a vivid nose of bitter-orange zest and Cognac. There is also something else in the background which reminded me a little of Maraschino, though it is very subtle. In the mouth an initial mild orange sweetness gives way to a more bitter orange along with some Cognac notes, aromatics and a mild burn. The finish is long, with a mixture of sweet and bitter orange, Cognac and spice.

Gran Gala is an interesting drink which has many of the typical brandy-based orange liqueur characteristics, yet also has a few surprises up its sleeve. The additional spice
> Grand Marnier is a deep golden amber colour, with a medium Cognac nose that has a slight heat to it. There is a a mild orange background, which has a notably bitter edge. On sipping you get a strong bitter-sweet orange flavour which is followed up by some Cognac notes and a slight burn. This burn continues through a long finish that has a nice mixture of bitter and sweet orange hints behind the Cognac.

I wasn’t surprised when I learned this one was Grand Marnier. It has a nice complexity but remains balanced and approachable, making it a really good orange liqueur for sipping. In cocktai
2:19 AM
I love how much you guys have contributed to my alcohol education.
@AshleyNunn Learn to program and you'll find that education comes in mighty handy...
Hmm... where was that comment about doing both at the same time?
My drinking preference for cocktails appears to center around variations where brandy (or something similar) is the dominant flavor.
Sep 26 at 3:31, by MichaelT
> Every programmer occasionally, when nobody's home, turns off the lights, pours a glass of scotch, puts on some light German electronica, and opens up a file on their computer. It's a different file for every programmer. Sometimes they wrote it, sometimes they found it and knew they had to save it. They read over the lines, and weep at their beauty, then the tears turn bitter as they remember the rest of the files and the inevitable collapse of all that is good and true in the world.
@JimmyHoffa Not sure I would ever dev. I am not really all that good at it, despite many many attempts. (Although I wrote a badass English paper after a bottle of strawberry wine once...) I am still working on stuff related to computer things though (like various certification things because that seems to be the easiest way to prove I know things)
2:22 AM
I was thinking of this one:
Sep 26 at 3:35, by MichaelT
Our secret is that we can do it and drink at the same time.
Apricot brandy is one of my favorites... apricot brandy, OJ, gin. Equal parts. Shake with ice, serve straight up.
@MichaelT anybody who's ever known a programmer is fully aware that's no secret
@JimmyHoffa its the people who arn't programmers and don't know that secret.
I'm not one, but I am aware of it :)
2:24 AM
@MichaelT have to say, some of the drinks you mention like this do sound quite tasty, very creative fruit-based drinks where I've tended to avoid the fruity drinks as their profile is usually a bit too sweet for me, but some of the stuff you've mentioned sounds pretty well balanced
The other side of my drinking preference is crisp, clear, citrus flavors. Limoncello, triple sec, lime juice.
Btw, stumbled across this as an actual article on wikipedia... its really good.
Limonana (Hebrew: לימונענע‎; Arabic: ليمون نعناع‎) is a type of lemonade made from freshly-squeezed lemon juice and mint leaves that is popular in Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria. == Etymology == Limonana is a portmanteau of the Hebrew and Arabic words limon (Hebrew: לימון‎, Arabic: ليمون‎, meaning lemon) and nana (Hebrew: נענע‎, Arabic: نعناع‎, meaning mint), referring to its two main ingredients, freshly-squeezed lemon juice and mint leaves. == History == Limonana may have originated in Syria or Turkey. In Israel, the name came from an advertising campaign conducted in the early 1990s...
Had it in a Mediterranean cafe in Mountain View awhile back.
@MichaelT That sounds excellent. I love citrus though
(My mom used to buy me lemons to eat when I would get tired of mealy winter apples, just because)
2:27 AM
@MichaelT sounds delicious, makes me think of:
Limoncello (Italian pronunciation: [limonˈtʃɛllo]) is an Italian lemon liqueur mainly produced in Southern Italy, especially in the region around the Gulf of Naples, the Sorrentine Peninsula and the coast of Amalfi and islands of Procida, Ischia and Capri. It is also produced in Puglia, Sicily, Sardinia, Menton in France, and the Maltese island of Gozo. Although there is debate about the exact origin of the drink, it is at least one hundred years old. Traditionally, it is made from the zest of Femminello St. Teresa lemons, also known as Sorrento lemons or Sfusato Lemons. Lemon zest, or peels without...
@MichaelT ooooh, this would totally be up my alley
2 mins ago, by MichaelT
The other side of my drinking preference is crisp, clear, citrus flavors. Limoncello, triple sec, lime juice.
triple sec is a sweet orange liquor.
And you better know what lime juice is.
2:28 AM
giggles I do, no worries there
The neat thing with limoncello is there's two types... regular and cream.
you should get your hands on a pack of the bundaberg lemon lime and bitters, I pick it up at world market whenever I'm there, not the same flavor at all as your sprite/7-ups etc, way way better
If you make that drink (the lemon, orange, lime one) - try it with both... they are the same, but different.
2:29 AM
@JimmyHoffa This also sounds great
The regular one is a crisp flavor... a little bit of bite to the tongue on it. While the cream smooths it out - both in flavor and actual texture of the drink too.
@MichaelT Which drink?
@AshleyNunn limoncello, triple sec, lime juice. Equal parts.
@MichaelT That sounds doable :D
I mean I would need to visit a LCBO, but perhaps as a celebratory thing, if all works out in the next few days....
2:31 AM
Now, something that I stumbled across while looking... that @Shog9 might poke at too (it was a topic of conversation): ohgo.sh/archive/… mustard liqueur.
> This English twist on an American favorite is made by brewing and fermenting herbs and milled roots over seven days, a time honored practice trademarked by Thomas Fentiman in 1905. The lemonade is then infused with ginger spice and pure rose extract for its pink color and signature taste.
@MichaelT Weeeeird.
> 2 oz blended Scotch
¾ oz honey-ginger syrup
¾ oz lemon juice
¼ oz Islay Scotch
Shake all ingredients except whisky and strain in to an ice-filled old-fashioned glass. Float Islay whisky on top.
2:36 AM
@MichaelT That might work nice in a caesar and I like those
@JimmyHoffa I was wondering what you'd say.
...mixed drink...made with...islay scotch....want...to...flag as offensive...sooo...badly...
> Sometimes a cocktail recipe is so intriguing you can’t help but run out to buy the necessary ingredients so you can mix one up. Sometimes a cocktail recipe is so bizarre you’re frightened to even put the ingredients together in a tin in case the extraordinary mixture results in some horrifying science-fiction-esque accident might occur. The Laphroaig Project is both of these.

They say Scotch isn’t really a spirit for mixing… that it is best enjoyed in a glass on its own with perhaps a drop of water or an ice cube at a push. The Laphroaig Project turns this conviction on its head, choosin
2:40 AM
Though, that one... I'm a bit uncertain of.
> 1 oz Green Chartreuse
1 oz lemon juice
½ oz Laphroaig Quarter Cask
½ oz maraschino
¼ oz Yellow Chartreuse
2 dashes Fee Brothers Peach Bitters
Shake all ingredients with ice and strain in to an ice-filled old-fashioned glass. Garnish with lemon zest twist.
Still thinking about this apricot brandy drink...
> 1½ oz gin
1½ oz dry vermouth
½ oz Cointreau
½ oz apricot brandy
Shake all ingredients with ice and fine-strain in to a cocktail glass. Garish with a lemon zest twist.
i just.... i just hate you so much right now... not just scotch, but Laphroaig...agh...that is ruination of all that is good and holy in this world...if I believed in god, and I'm not saying I do, but if I did I'm pretty sure the existence of Laphroaig would play at least 60% into the reason...
> 1 oz Yellow Chartreuse
1 oz apricot brandy
¼ oz absinthe
Shake all ingredients with ice and fine-strain in to a cocktail glass. Garish with an orange zest twist.
2:43 AM
> Even reduced to just a ¼ oz the absinthe makes a strong impression on the drink, but the Chartreuse stands its ground providing a sweet herbal start to the drink. The apricot brandy remains in the background, probably not helped by the fact the Giffard brandy is fairly light in flavour. Nonetheless, it offers a constant hint of apricot throughout the drink and the overall result, whilst pretty sweet, is quite interesting.
@MichaelT defiler
But admit it, aren't you just a tad bit curious about that?
@MichaelT the only reason I didn't flag as offensive is because the other 40% of the reason I could ever believe in god is the existence of ginger. I eat the stuff raw, make tea by just boiling raw fresh ginger and not even straining all the chunks out, my favorite hot sauce is:
I am but I don't think I have ever actually had scotch so I am missing a level of appreciation
3:07 AM
@WorldEngineer btw, make sure you read all the Lazarus Long quotes: phil-can.com/john/memorium/Notebooks%20of%20Lazarus%20Long.pdf
> Never try to out stubborn a cat.
@MichaelT I like these!
3:19 AM
@AshleyNunn an issue with that pdf is it gets the order wrong.
@MichaelT Oh, there is an intended order?
If you have the opportunity, get the illuminated version.
3:24 AM
oh, very pretty
3 hours later…
6:44 AM
Hi guys ...
There's a common topic i wanted inputs on ...
3 hours later…
9:34 AM
Hello all,
I'm learning C on my own for pleasure and have no mentors available. I've worked through K&R and have written some toy town programs, but I don't feel like I could go and write something serious.

I've bought "C: A Reference Manual, 5th Ed", and also "Advanced Unix Programming, 2nd Ed" by Rochkind.

I think that moving onto Advanced Unix Programming would be premature because I feel like I need to master the standard library before getting into Unix specific low level stuff. Similarly, "C: A Reference Manual" seems too much like just a reference.
K&R is not a up to date reference and really should only be used as a historical guide
@ratchetfreak Thanks ratchet freak. Would you recommend a "modern" alternative?
1 hour later…
11:10 AM
> Daily close vote limit reached; please try again in 12 hours
^^^ Sad face.
1:14 PM
should i send my credit card number via email? I'm sure it's a bad idea but meh, it'd be easiest :P
it can be pretty bad
remember that email is the opposite of secure
oh yeah
Alternative is phone
split it
put different parts on different mediums
that's what I do when I have no other option
4 digits on fb, 4 on email, 4 via text, and maybe call the other 4
"I will mail you the first part, call you with the second, and fax you the third. For the expiration date, I will email you a riddle which must be solved"
or tell them to decode using AES
and send the key using another part
1:17 PM
@enderland If it's a company, they shouldnt need you to email them your CC. If its a friend, then they should understand
like a encrypted ZIP and you call them with the password
@Ampt it's a small place, mom/pop type shop
oh fine, I'll use the phone to call...
"Ugh I actually have to speak to people today? This is ridiculous."
I'm glad you understand
Oh 100%. I refuse to do anything besides IM before 10AM at work if I can help it.
1:22 PM
By 10am, I've already saved half the world from impending doom.
Well I'm a morning person so there's that. But... I dislike talking on the phone anyways
I have 2x activities at 6am every week :)
@ThomasOwens by 10Am I've gone to starbucks, ignored a few emails and decided who my least favorite person of the day is going to be (HINT: It's everyone)
aww even me :(
@ratchetfreak Don't take it personally, I'm just crabby in the morning. By 3PM I'm usually warmed up to the idea that maybe not everyone is terrible
@Ampt then you roll through p.SE and change your mind?
1:31 PM
@enderland why do you think I stay in chat?
hear no evil, see no evil, kill no people.
1:45 PM
Random question: Suggestions for a good RSS reader? Primary use would be on mac, bonus for android and iOS versions too.
1:59 PM
@GlenH7 Still crying over google reader
Mebbe.... Who's asking?
More like never got around to picking another one...
Me either lol
I meant I was still crying
Looked at feedly a bit, but it seemed like they were trying too hard to create a website out of a reader. And they weren't refreshing feeds as often as I would have expected.
There was one that I knew was updated daily, but feedly only pulled it every 2 - 3 days
2:02 PM
I just want simple though
What have we done to anger the google gods glen?! HOW CAN WE APPEASE THEM?!
makes me sad though
We must make sacrifices. BRING IN THE PEOPLE FROM MARKETING!
and a few interns for good measure?
Yes, yes. The blood of the innocent unpaid workers will appease the Reader so he will bring back bountiful updates!
2:09 PM
I'm not positive about that, but I'm willing to give it a try and see if it works.
That's the whole point of ritual sacrifices though. We don't know what will appease them, so we keep trying until we do!
Time's a'wasting, so we might as well get started then.
man everyone must be out of close votes today
the front page is utter crap
You get a CV, You get a CV, EVERYBODY GETS A CV!
3 hours ago, by GlenH7
> Daily close vote limit reached; please try again in 12 hours
Q: CodeIgniter routing - end slash

kipraslatuIs there a routing rule in codeigniter, to remove the end slash of a url ? I want my url look like this http://example.com not like this http://example.com/ For the moment my urls are accessible by the two way. So is there a routing rule for that ? Thanks

is this SO material?
it's a configuration question
2:16 PM
Yes, appropriate for SO
Not a great question but one where someone may know offhand
so you guys know my background, just saw an IT Java Developer position in my company... how crazy would it be for me to apply?
given the circumstances, not too far off
Whenever I see something marked as IT, I always get the feeling that its more setting up and configuring tools than actually writing code
which can also be fun if you like it
2:20 PM
Yes a bit of a learning curve. But you know the biz and you've got demonstrated ability
@enderland for SU mod!
Also doesn't hurt to see if any of your current connections know the folk hiring for that role. See if they can drop a positive word your way
And the worst they can say is "no"
yeah true
just so demoralizing. lol
ok that looks like a crap job
all these jobs are project manager jobs
Probably not what you want to jump to then
2:33 PM
@enderland try to keep your spirits up. Sometimes takes a while for the plans to play out.
Yeah, but I feel like I've been spinning my wheels for 6+ months now (though what I'm doing is valuable experience, so it's not that bad)
How would things be different if you weren't spinning your wheels? Sounds like a matter of perception
@GlenH7 that's a fair point, I guess
I frequently let myself get wrapped around the axle with that same thought. I try to break out of it by asking what would be different
I guess I don't feel like I'm going anywhere and lack stability
2:37 PM
look on the bright side - you could be moving really fast and still lack stability
Lack of stability is one thing, because that eats at a sense of security. But not going anywhere is neither good nor bad.
Hahah. Might be more fun that way @Shog9 :)
until you flip over and the ice weasels come
@enderland It's fun, but it's really effing scary too
2:38 PM
stability is mostly an illusion, even at the best of times
@Shog9 Oh for sure, at least in the USA (I think Europe is a bit more "secure" in terms of employment)
@Shog9 it's kind of like skiing
Especially with all the At-Will states
you try to look far enough ahead to avoid wiping out in the next 30 seconds, and...ah, @GlenH7 knew where I was going
@enderland Until you have austerity fears rolling through that threaten to crater the current economy. :-)
2:40 PM
but I was awesome at SkiFree, that's saying something right?
@Shog9 Helmets are nice, but they don't always help.
I just hit all the flags until the yeti ate me
I now feel old for some reason
aww why the edit, I liked the nom nom nom monster
2:41 PM
still the same image, just didn't want the morning influx of people to think that this second monitor wasn't the most professional of chats :)
^^ He gets it
@Ampt stop clearing stars on this you monster! :)
@Ampt Our profanity levels have been fairly high lately
@GlenH7 As have our deleted comments. Coincidence?
2:42 PM
@Ampt nah....
I eventually learned to outrun the yeti. I don't remember how...
@JimmyHoffa jumps. hit all the jumps for speed boosts
@enderland I think the system automatically clears pre-edit stars when you go over a certain threshold of characters changed/added
I played far more skifree than was healthy.
@Shog9 you hinted in an answer to an MSE question (it was down voting to close a question) that there were changes being considered to the close mechanisms. Was that mostly existential ponderings, or is there anything on the horizon?
2:45 PM
@GlenH7 no, there's actually a 13-page design doc I need to finish fleshing out and then somehow condense down into a meta post.
need some help?
@Shog9 I'd be happy to proofread and edit that if you'd like... :-D
@JimmyHoffa at least it wasn't chip's challenge! that one was addicting. "bummer"
@enderland Ugh all those stupid keys
but while we're on the topic of closing... here's an idle question for y'all: how would Programmers.SE be different if closing and reopening required only 3 votes?
2:46 PM
better off
less whinging about being out of close votes
but more importantly, we'd get the carp closed off quicker which would cut down on carp answers
likewise, things that merit it could be opened faster
@Shog9 Lines between community moderation and moderator moderation would get more blurred, in this case I think positively
we can usually rally reopen votes pretty quickly. But that requires an active community member to drop in here and make the request
2:47 PM
3+ votes is a pretty strong indicator that a question is off topic. I wonder how many posts are left open with only 3-4 close votes on them
@Ampt on p.se? probably a lot less than workplace
Modest risk of seeing more open / close wars, but I don't think that'll be a major issue. We could always request a lock and take the issue to meta
@ratchetfreak I'm 7k rep from that link :)
@ratchetfreak he can't use /tools
2:49 PM
then get more rep
Psh, that takes effort and an adoption of responsibility
@Shog9 I'm trying to think through how things would play out with our serial "leave open" voters. Overall, I think we'd still be in a better place as they shouldn't be able to kick a question out of the queue any more easily than what they can do now. And they have so far not demonstrated any interest in tracking the actual closures to cast reopen votes.
On second thought, my boss is gone all day today and I have a minimal amount of work to do... time to troll P.SE for questions
Or maybe I'll learn more Haskell...
3:16 PM
Thanks @gnat :)
@Ampt as opposed to the other days? ;)
@enderland Haha I have actually been pretty busy lately deploying Jira to tomcat and all that. But the boss just called me to let me know he wouldn't be in
@MichaelT any more good shots to share?
I've forgotten what outside looks like
@enderland oh indeed I did play a significant portion of chip's challenge, I also recall a mini-putt game I can't name from that era as well
3:50 PM
So, the question is, what does one title a "hello I am quitting" email?
19 hours ago, by Ampt
"Cya later chumps" won't cut it?
I wish
Worth a shot :)
dude seriously, you could be farming some Workplace.SE rep from this stuff
Yeah, I don't think that will work here
at least ask it over there
3:52 PM
but I have the formal paperwork now so yaaaay
Yeah, but that will take time for an annnnnswer
you guys put up with me in real time ;)
@AshleyNunn but that sweet, sweet rep
@AshleyNunn resignation notice
heh someone just serially upvoted tons of my content network wide
3:53 PM
@enderland [REVERSAL]
Yeah pretty sure. but hey it's some p.se rep too!
currently they are going through all my money.se posts... why does someone do this? it seems like a lot of effort
And keep the note short & sweet. "Dear So & So, This is to inform you that my last day with XYZ will be .... Thank you for the opportunity to work for XYZ. Signed, you"
@enderland potentially will get rolled back tonight. Threshold is a little above 6 up votes, but that may be per site.
@GlenH7 Okay, That's what I was thinking.
@Ampt Asked anyhow :)
@GlenH7 per site might cause things to be interesting
3:56 PM
Q: How does one title a resignation email?

Ashley NunnI am in a situation where I need to tell my current employer that I am leaving. I know what I want to say in the body of the email I am using to do so, and have that written out in full. Problem is, I am not sure of what sort of subject line would be appropriate in this situation. Something like ...

For reference of others
@Ampt Told you I did it
wtf seriously this person is spending considerable time upvoting all my content
@enderland It's a secret admirer ;)
@enderland They liiiiike you
@AshleyNunn You send your boss an e-mail saying: "Have you seen this: How do I resign?"
3:58 PM
A: How does one title a resignation email?

enderland What sort of subject line would be appropriate here? I think you are overthinking this. Something simple like "Resignation letter" works fine. Though, I'm not sure why you are doing so in email vs in-person or phone. See this question for why.

Then see how he likes it ;-)
@rolfl laughs
Congrats on the new opportunity.
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