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6:55 AM
I think that edits in rev 4 and 5 made this question sufficiently differ from duplicate for reopening (I voted, and someone else did)...
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Q: Spring - Confusion over configuration?

titoSomewhere I read Spring offers convenience over configuration. But Spring folks are bringing in so much changes over the configuration , that I am now really getting confused to use the xml configuration or the annotation. I would like anyone to suggest a surefire methodology or rule of thumb in...

 
 
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8:14 AM
SE "decline machine" in action...
@Shog9 per my reading of your update, basically plan is to wait until there's more evidence of abuse? like it was with sticky hot questions... oh wait we probably won't give a damn even then. Heh, decline culture at SE is not in the best shapegnat 2 hours ago
we dropped that request 3 years ago, no need to revisit until it really blows up
 
 
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10:35 AM
possibly spamming user: stackoverflow.com/users/2164230/jessie-jones and programmers.stackexchange.com/users/87959/jessie-jones on both sites ALL his answers (three on SO, one on Programmers) have links to something calles "Microsoft Virtual Academy". like: microsoftvirtualacademy.com/training-courses/…).
 
 
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user41796
2:23 PM
@thorstenmüller - good observation; their answer on P.SE has already been deleted. For curious 10k+ users, it's here. From my read, it wasn't horribly spammy except that it was a new answer on a 2 year old question with plenty of decent-enough answers already. However, they also endorsed w3schools which justifies deleting their answer, IMO. :-P I kind of see the user as just a bit misguided, but I don't have access to their SO posts.
 
2:49 PM
You will be building your web site much faster when you don't waste your time with asking such low-quality question here. — Doc Brown 2 hours ago
Ouch! (deleting...)
 
 
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4:01 PM
@YannisRizos deletion incomplete - not only comment, the whole question is worthy of deletion. It's as low effort as it gets
 
@gnat Yeah, but OP hasn't logged in since he posted it and there's no reason to delete this before he even gets a chance of seeing it was closed. You'd be surprised how many times this had lead people to believe that their question disappeared due to an error and they've just re-asked it.
 
@YannisRizos I see, that makes sense
 
user55340
Ideally, one would have it that when a question is closed, it automatically sends a non-cascading delete (as opposed to comment was deleted, so inbox item was deleted) message to the user with the relevant information.
 
I usually wait a day or two... Unless the homepage looks really bad, at which point I don't really care if they got notified of the closure or not. Site > OP
It's also good to wait for them to read any helpful comments explaining the closure, of course (assuming there are any).
 
user55340
Might also be useful to have a mod option of making a non-cascade deleting comment for if the question the comment is part of is deleted.
 
4:08 PM
@YannisRizos yes. though in that sense, grace period for deleted posts makes even better sense. Sort of doing automatically (and less harmful for site) things that currently require manual effort and pollute the questions list...
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A: How can we stop premature deletion?

ChrisFThis would only be a sticking plaster, but let people see their deleted questions if only for the first 48 hours after deletion. The links to them would still remain invisible to everyone else (except moderators). This coupled with notification of comments should give people enough time to corre...

 
@MichaelT That already happens, mod comments survive deletion. Yes, we are that awesome ;) But it's still a bit icky, as the OP doesn't have a chance to respond.
@gnat I've already upvoted that.
 
user55340
Given the "more than 5" rep, including a "ask a question about the question being deleted" on meta, or (given the more than 10 rep), including "many mods can be found in chat" could provide avenues of response to a deleted comment.
 
user55340
An argument for faster deletion is go avoid the piling on of downvotes that one sees in sites that don't move as fast as SO. When one can vote on nearly every question every day, this becomes more of an issue. A deleted -3 rep question may be less ego impacting than a not yet deleted -7.
 
user55340
4:31 PM
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Q: E Solution for Academic Files

user16297I would like to know the best solution for Academic Files (over 3,000 and growing). We currently have them packed tight in file cabinets, overflowing in boxes, and they continue to double every year. Our bosses want to use SharePoint, but I am not convinced on it. We want to know what the best o...

 
user55340
Its been a bit (4 sites) cross posted.
 
user55340
I'm surprised it wasn't on academia.SE too.
 
user55340
5:12 PM
A followup, its been closed on two other sites, deleted here, and on Sharepoint.SE it got two answers so far... one of which identifies the broad aspect of it, the problems of inflow and two case studies by Microsoft on Sharepoint in academic settings.
 
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A: SharePoint Usage for Academic Files

C. MariusI would start by saying that your requirement is a little too broad. Yes, indeed SharePoint is a great (greatest if you ask me!) Enterprise Content Management tool (Records Management, Document Management and Web Content Management - all accompagned by a lot of Business Intelligence, Social, Work...

 
user20683
6:00 PM
@MichaelT Academic file management? Easy, use Mendeley
 
user41796
6:49 PM
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Q: Best Programming Language that supports - Work from Home

GrungefreakI am an "intermediate" java programmer (hobbyist). I would like to transition over to working as a programmer full time from home over the next year or so. I had given some thought to learning "android" but the market seems to be saturated with little chance of making a reasonable salary. My qu...

 
user55340
I'm amused by the "java" tag on that one.
 
7:22 PM
Hello Programmers
 
user55340
'ello.
 
So I wrote an SQL-like database in Java for a database course last year or so. I resurrected it for conversion to c++ which allows me more programming experience in the language. When I am done, any suggestions on what to do with it?
 
@Mushy I hear C++ applications like milk bones
 
difficult. there are so many database solution around, sql or nosql and those are all mature projects. anything that's special about yours?
 
@thorstenmüller I think he's just doing it for his own practice and learning, not to solve a new problem
@MichaelT where's that silly RFC's list you have on everything2?
 
7:31 PM
@JimmyHoffa ok, I misinterpreted the last sentence. Sure he is talking about his experience not the project itself.
 
@Mushy implement RFC748 tools.ietf.org/html/rfc748
in your SQL server
 
user55340
Realize that I haven't been active on the site for awhile, so nothing since 2005.
 
I just wanted to find rfc748 for mushy heh
 
user55340
Btw, a fun one is RFC 1437.
 
7:35 PM
oy vey downvoters beware...
@BilltheLizard Q.E.D. anonymity of votes has a loophole — gnat 28 mins ago
 
tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6919 = SHOULD CONSIDER
The actual RFC for requirements terms is summarized at the beginning of any requirements document. I should file a proposal to edit the document template to include those terms...>_> I can.
 
user55340
@ThomasOwens That one is beautiful.
 
@MichaelT It's so true, and actually useful and relevant.
 
user55340
@gnat If there's a downvote on a question that I didn't cast, I just assume it was you...
 
I wanna downvote those replies to my questions
 
user55340
7:48 PM
Oh... tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6921 - Design Considerations for Faster-Than-Light (FTL) Communication
 
user55340
There is a few gaps around 6919, there may still be more April 1 RFCs on their way.
 
@MichaelT questions votes are still invisible, it's answers in deleted questions that leak through. While we're at it, I think I hate you for that "marginal answers" script - most of exposed DVs are to posts I discovered through script :)
 
user55340
> It shows remarkable forethought by the inventors of the TCP protocol that the 3-way handshake works in an FTL communication environment.
 
Is faster-than-light possible? What presently moves faster-than-light?
 
user55340
@Mushy Thats more a physics question, and take note of the date the RFC was published. It is one in a long tradition of such RFCs.
 
7:55 PM
1 problem is that current, comprising wired internet signals, don't move at the speed of light.
 
@Mushy presently time moving backwards does
 
I have yet to observe time moving backwards except when I am bored at work.
 
@Mushy I didn't say it was observable...
 
I have observed it
 
user55340
The trick is to find a superluminal carrier pigeon...
 
7:57 PM
Who in the world would propose that
 
@Mushy maybe you could create an avian interface to your SQL server
 
Talk about orders of magnitude slower than the slowest network.
How would it interface? Perhaps a bird feeder and an encoded receiver?
 
@Mushy on a realistic topic, make your sql server have automatic sharding with distributed transactions presented as though a cluster is a single machine
 
there, go forth, if you can accomplish that more power to ya
 
8:00 PM
@JimmyHoffa Well I think that is beyond what I meant when requesting idea
 
Then the avian interface it is!
 
Not a serious bone in your fingers
 
user55340
@Mushy I think you are missing a critical piece of information that is encoded in the publication date of each of those RFCs.
 
@Mushy how about this; make it queue inserts/updates in memory flushing to disk periodically which means queries will have to first recognize the in-memory applications patched over the disk form
 
@JimmyHoffa Interesting idea
 
8:02 PM
That's how real SQL servers work, not sure if a query against a table which has queued updates forces the flush or reads from disk, patches in memory, then executes the query, either approach would work though the former would be easier
the ladder is likely what real sql servers do
or some crazy version of it
(database server developers are nuts)
 
My home-grown variety is only, at the moment, writing index and data to file.
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa Its a special type of insanity.
 
@MichaelT truly. I can get the language/compiler developers insanity (i'm not at that level, but I understand why and what they're up to), but database server developers are at a particular confluence of applied math and technology that genuinely scares me
@Mushy make it write to configurable output sinks, including sinks that can be network stream so you could get data updates automatically forwarded to some other service that cares about the data enough to want to keep it in memory
so you could write your own reconciliation services downstream of the database
Better yet, make it respond to RANDOMLY-LOSE instructions ;)
 
user41796
8:24 PM
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Q: What does VS project binding do?

GlenH7What does Visual Studio's unbind | bind operation do to projects in a solution.suo file? Microsoft provides instructions on How to: Bind or Unbind a Solution or Project, which happens to remedy the dreaded "Unspecified Error" that occurs at solution opening. This MSDN forum posting has a user s...

 
user41796
^^^^ Shameless self-plug for answers, please.
 
@gnat Meh. It only affects deleted answers, and we only delete the truly horrible ones.
 
@GlenH7 isn't the bind | unbind stuff regarding whether the solution is bound to source control?
 
user41796
yes; more specifically you can bind | unbind both projects and solutions
 
Yeah but the solution maintains the intelligence about what's bound, projects doesn't know any different
 
8:30 PM
brb, suspending all 10K+ non mods on Programmers so they won't have a chance to see my DVs. — Yannis 27 secs ago
 
user41796
and that ties them to their source control. I happen to be using TFS, but my research has been inconclusive on whether it's strictly tied to TFS or other repositories too
 
That means you @GlenH7. See you in a week ;)
 
user41796
SCORE!
 
user41796
@YannisRizos - thanks; and I'll be dark tomorrow anyway. Slugging through an 8 hour test
 
user41796
And your delete history is far more fun to wade through...
 
8:31 PM
@GlenH7 Believe it or not people (on SO) have asked for their accounts to be suspended because they had a test / deadline coming up and had no other way of battling their addiction and staying off SO to study / work.
 
@GlenH7 likely only TFS, either way presumably the .suo file has some intelligence about last state of what was bound to source control and upon loading gives an error due to a problem reconciling what is actually bound and what was bound previously
 
user41796
Oh, I would believe it. There have been some days where I've been tempted to ask the same.
 
but who knows. I don't suspect anyone can answer your question any more thoroughly than that
 
user41796
@JimmyHoffa - it definitely does; but I'd like to know what. I figure with Skeet and Lippert on SO, there's a chance a VS developer will see it too
 
@GlenH7 The official stance is that we won't suspend for anything that doesn't count as breaking the rules on the site. So... don't just ask, make some real noise ;)
 
user41796
8:34 PM
@YannisRizos - so I should have asked my SO question on P.SE, and then I could have earned a suspension for asking a blatantly off-topic question....
 
@GlenH7 I don't suspect so, the VS team stays pretty damn tight lipped about how some of that magic works under there
 
@GlenH7 That would be a good start. A Meta question calling everyone on the site a nazi after your question was closed would complete the cycle.
 
user41796
@JimmyHoffa - I don't necessarily blame them. The moment they say something, then the feature requests start pouring in.
 
yeah, especially when it comes to the solution stuff
the format of solutions is still an ancient holdover
 
user41796
@YannisRizos - how about trolling with a Star Wars quote that incorrectly includes references to Harry Potter and / or Lord of the Rings and / or Star Trek? That's gotta be better than feeble nazi claims.
 
8:37 PM
@GlenH7 That might have the opposite effect, you might end up with a diamond.
 
There'd be cats quoting you all over youtube the next day
 
user41796
Well, I wouldn't be able to accept until Sat, so that might work out... Maybe you could use some competition in deleting off questions
 
user41796
"catz are the betsest!"
 
There was a time where "betsest" would be a good tag on Programmers (or at least a synonym).
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Q: What is the point with the tag [bestestes]?

JonasPeter Turner is retagging a hole lot of questions and adding the tag [bestestes]. I can't understand the meaning of the tag or how it is useful. What's the point of the tag [bestestes]? and is it useful?

 
user20683
I have this question I want to ask Physics so very badly but I feel like I'm nerd sniping by doing it
 
8:41 PM
I'm not sure I would refer to that as "good tag"
 
user41796
First time I read that one and this time around too, I read "is retagging a hole" as "is a retagging a-hole". I should slow down while reading and stop inserting corrective letters.
 
@WorldEngineer Is it "When computers take over the world, will we still need physicists?" because if so I'll upvote it
 
user41796
@WorldEngineer - they'll probably give you the benefit of the doubt and not auto-merge you with Leslar or Goma
 
user20683
@GlenH7 that would be a bad idea
 
user20683
given that it might give either one a diamond
 
user20683
8:43 PM
this would be a bad thing(tm)
 
user20683
@JimmyHoffa no, it's "How much kinetic energy is required to slag a Borg Cube?"
 
user20683
I've seen an analysis online of it but it's not very rigorous and doesn't answer the question precisely
 
@WorldEngineer They're physicists, many of them have probably documented large scale analysis of that problem already
 
user41796
so it's a real problem that you have. You can demonstrate research. It's applicable to all physicists. Go for it!
 
user20683
being based on exploding planets rather than a kinetic projectile of an arbitrary variety
 
8:45 PM
@WorldEngineer You could try asking that on SciFi.SE.
 
user20683
@YannisRizos that was my other thought
 
user41796
with an obligatory cross-post ;-)
 
user20683
@GlenH7 given that I'm the one who curs the most about cross-posting...
 
user20683
not likely
 
user41796
still trying to find my snark angle to get myself banned for tomorrow. Not that it matters as electronics are verboten during the exam.
 
user20683
8:48 PM
@GlenH7 go to the Bridge and look at the logs for 2 days ago
 
user20683
copy the behavior you see there in here and I will ban you
 
user20683
just an option
 
user20683
not a threat
 
user20683
:)
 
user41796
@WorldEngineer - would probably take me 2 days just to find what you're referencing. High volume chat site....
 
user20683
8:55 PM
@GlenH7 I think it might be the highest
 
user20683
Programmers has a very low volume chat for the most part
 
user41796
I think I like it that way.
 
user41796
when you have to have a separate chat room to discuss the definition of one term, it can't be good
 
user20683
@GlenH7 which?
 
user20683
MMOs?
 
user41796
8:58 PM
yep
 
user20683
that's a special case
 
user41796
I would retort "aren't they all?"
 
If the Bridge is what "high volume chat" means, I honestly hope we'll manage to keep the whiteboard low volume...
 
user20683
@GlenH7 there's been some recent drama over there involving a new user who doesn't get etiquette for that chat at all
 
Almost every nonsense chat flag I've seen was from the Bridge...
 
user20683
9:00 PM
was my first attempt to contain him
 
user20683
@YannisRizos almost all nonsense on SE is in that room
 
user41796
@WorldEngineer - good luck with that. Can you suspend from chat too? :-)
 
user20683
@GlenH7 all mods can
 
my-code-is-compiling really takes very little time anymore, working on a relatively clean code base everything compiles in ~20 seconds. The tag should be changed to "I've-been-coding-for-an-hour-straight-and-my-eyes-feel-like-they'll-fall-out-if-I-don't-look-at-something-else-for-5-minutes"
'bit long... just a bit... good tag though. Just sayin.
 
user20683
@JimmyHoffa my-code-is-compiling-on-a-386 ?
 
user41796
9:02 PM
@WorldEngineer - careful there; you could start a "In my day.... " flame.
 
user20683
@GlenH7 that was in my day
 
@GlenH7 my boss just the other day was talking about how he's been trying to find a Motorola 6800 for a decent price on ebay because he'd written assembly on them for years
 
user20683
@JimmyHoffa pity I don't have access to my old Performa
 
user41796
@JimmyHoffa - ought to be pretty easily done, imo. tons of them around, I would think. @WorldEngineer - see what you did?
 
user20683
@GlenH7 no, I really don't
 
9:04 PM
@GlenH7 he seemed to be alluding that you couldn't get one under a hundred bucks easily
 
user41796
mostly just teasing by implying that Jimmy's comment is the tip of the iceberg
 
user41796
 
user41796
8088 is the farthest back I can claim time on. Can't recall if I programmed for 6800's or not. Would have to look in my stash of chips at home.
 
user55340
9:35 PM
I've got the 6502 blues... ahh.. Good ole F666 on an old Apple ][+.
 
user55340
> Entry point for the awesome 371-byte Mini-Assembler built into the earlier (Integer BASIC) ROMs on the Apple ][.
 

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