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Q: How to continue script commands after chroot?

Apple AppalaAfter Install another os such as windows in different partition then windows bootloader will replace the gurb so that we can't be able to boot on ubuntu anymore but we can insert a live cd and re-install grub in /dev/sda so that it again replaces the windows bootloader and we can able to boot on ...

User has Kali.
(or they have a Kali disk inserted, and their hostname is kali)
 
@KazWolfe I never wouldn't caught that without ctrl+f
thanks, @Wolfbot
@KazWolfe he should join this room
 
i can move him here temporarily.
i'll need mod permission though, so someone else beg a SE mod to let me do it.
 
@Seth pls
 
@Zacharee1 12k user? Definitely an audit lol.
 
@KazWolfe if (CV.getReason() == "Unclear" && CV.getCount() == 1) return isAudit(true);
I learned about that syntax for Java while learning plugins
 
12:11 AM
getReason and getCount are getters, so they're functions.
there you go.
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Q: How can i use Python-ELM in PyCharm IDE

Mr.BeansI want to use this (https://github.com/dclambert/Python-ELM) in my project. I am doing this in the Pycharm - Community edition. How can I use this or install this Python-ELM. I'm using Python3 on Linux mint 18. Please guide me step-by-step, I am beginner in python.

mint.
 
I thought (functions, so parentheses) and then well
brain happened
 
also isAudit(true) is weird. Just return true.
this is already a function called isAudit, i'd guess.
 
but then I don't get a pointless isAudit() function :(
@KazWolfe no, this is testForAudit :p
because reasons
 
either way, the bot is already catching questions we wouldn't have.
this makes me very happy.
 
like seriously
it's great
 
12:38 AM
@Zanna @jokerdino @edwinksl what do you think of WolfBot joining this room?
 
@Zacharee1 i am fine with it but i suspect my opinion doesn't matter
 
@edwinksl actually...
in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 1 min ago, by Seth
@Zacharee1 I don't care if you trial it in UR, long as the active people there don't mind.
 
meh, i wouldn't call myself active here
 
you're more so than I am
We really need Zanna's input on this, but she's sleeping
 
zanna doesn't want it here for whatever reason
 
12:43 AM
whatever reason is "whatever reason"?
:p
 
same reason seth doesnt want it in general i think
 
in any case
my argument for allowing the bot is because the U&L bot exists
same point as what zach raised (although i did bring it up to seth several days ago :p)
 
and seth, like, can remove that if he doesn't like it
 
U&L bot is pretty noisy to me. anyone who wants to keep track of the ubuntu tag in U&L can do it on their own, we don't need a bot at all
the only time i click through on a post by the U&L bot is when i recognize a crosspost
 
exactly
it's always so disruptive :p
 
12:53 AM
that is a pretty poor reason anyway
by far we the humans are the most disruptive
 
technically we are what is being disrupted
 
that's one way of looking at it
 
Zanna:
I just wanna say (I'm completely biased because I don't want it in Regulators) that it looks like nobody has actually said it should be in regulators - the linked message says "we don't need [it] in [the main room]" — Zanna Sep 28 at 7:59
 
So the only reason she's against it is because no one has said it should be here?
 
i think those are unrelated
but she doesn't want it in here.
 
1:06 AM
@Zanna what's your reason for not wanting WolfBot?
 
1:20 AM
poor wolfbot, nobody wants him
 
 
3 hours later…
4:24 AM
@KazWolfe an alternative could be creating a separate room for it. so interested users will join the room.
just an opinion
and Reviewed list could be renamed to "3rd Review". another opinion. better describes its usage
yes another opinion
 
4:37 AM
I have a second thought on this question. that answer can be upvoted imo @Zanna
 
@Zacharee1 because of working on trello which needs a lot of discussion & continuity helps, so if there's loads of other stuff in here it would be getting in the way, but as I said, I'm biased. I like the idea of a separate room - I would go check on it every day for sure :)
@Anwar that's ok, upvote if you think so :)
 
ok. you can retract the cv
 
Done :)
@Anwar makes sense for us indeed, just thinking of possible other visitors...
 
other visitor will be amazed to see multi-leveled review system. they'd say WOW!
 
Hahaha true, but that list is technically second review to them :) still, I think it's good either way, change it if you want
 
4:49 AM
hmm. Sometimes it's second review. sometimes third. anyway will wait for board admin
Also, It seems you've taken the request of "leaving 1 card on my review list" seriously. You can of course empty the list
checks lurking status
seems not ready
 
5:58 AM
@Anwar lol I try to take all requests seriously :)
 
6:17 AM
yes. upvoted both
 
I assumed you upvoted mine hehe. I couldn't understand the stuff at that link
 
@Zanna didn't know that.
I'll try to include info on what's serious and what's fun then...
I wouldn't upvote but link target looks good. that's why..
 
@Anwar heh well if in doubt, I feel it's better to assume it is than it isn't, especially when the request is "don't do..."
 
okay
checking edit history to see the diff
ok+
 
I'm not telling you what to do! just saying what I do myself
 
6:28 AM
yeah. I understood.
I would consider the request type also. anyway, Thank you for taking that seriously!
 
@Anwar yes, excellent point
 
6:52 AM
Ok. try leaving 1 as you're doing. not an obligation though :)
 
got it
 
7:16 AM
@Zanna i never see you in the test room :P
 
@KazWolfe yes, I've never been there, but I will come there if it is official & not a test, promise.
 
you should come by. it's doing a pretty good job
 
7:35 AM
@Seth I'm sorry for my grumpy comment. Please consider me deleting it as taking it back... wonders what to do with that card
 
 
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10:20 AM
@Zanna ?
 
oh hmm
 
@Zanna wanna just try it out?
 
@Zacharee1 no! :p but I am in the test room now watching people play with it.
it's not up to me at all though @Zacharee1
@jokerdino mhmm
 
@Zanna it is though. You're the frequent user. Kaz is planning on making it so the bot only responds to privileged users.
 
10:35 AM
@Zacharee1 I'll accept whatever is decided and adapt to it, and that's all I have to say :)
back in... ~30 min
 
@Zanna it's your decision though. I'm trying to convince you to try it because we need your approval.
 
11:05 AM
@Zacharee1 wow... I don't know what to say. I don't think it's my decision at all! Certainly I don't want to be that one stubborn person
 
I dont mind the bot as long as it doesn't post on its own. Preferably never and perhaps only on command.
 
@jokerdino but the point of the bot is to post links to OT questions
 
so we could ask it, what have you got, WolfBot? when we want to check, no? it's not urgent to close those Qs, unlike spam & offensive posts
 
I guess we could try that, but if it has a giant list of questions queued up, that's going to be extremely disruptive. A single post every once in a while won't take up much room.
 
well that is an argument for it having its own room imho
 
11:18 AM
We can't know any of this though unless we actually try it out
 
People who wants to push the bot here should at least be somewhat active in what we have been doing here for quite some time.
 
And it being in isolation isn't good for judging it's disruptiveness
@jokerdino well I've been in this room. I just don't know what to do.
I've posted questions to close
 
Zanna has an excellent writeup on GDoc explaining what we have been doing. =>
 
Mobile
I can't read it right now
 
Be a part of us and convince us from inside.
 
11:25 AM
@Zacharee1 it is going to be disruptive on some scale. I will go to the bot happily & regularly & appreciatively, I just don't really want it to come to me?
@jokerdino :) :) :)
 
The rare triple smiley.
 
it's still not enough
 
Though I am somewhat confused by it.
 
how can I explain?
 
Is that a nod or approval or something else?
 
11:30 AM
I second your suggestion, I should say that instead
I think that was one approval for each of the last three things you said
 
@Zanna what if it only posts if there's been no activity for a set amount of time, say a minute?
 
@Zanna that's what you need
 
So conversations aren't interrupted
 
thanks @edwinksl that should indeed be assumed at all times
 
11:34 AM
@Anwar no
 
@Zacharee1 Imho, that's not how it works, we are all working at different times and we need to read back and catch up with what each other have posted
 
The bot's post frequency isn't that high though
And remember, you can tell it what to find.
 
You see, I have some inertia to external things.
 
It could only search for questions with a specific keyword
@jokerdino ?
 
That's not clear? It's just what I already said but phrased in a different way.
 
11:38 AM
You said you don't care about anything happening outside of this room?
 
No, I said I tend to resist suggestions coming from the outside.
 
@Zacharee1 Thanks. Flag if you think so.
@Zacharee1 what about us? why don't you need our approval?
or you think so...
interested to know
bbl. prayer time
 
It's the same for me... This room is already being used for something, and some people who haven't been involved in that want to use it for something else, without finding out about what is already going on and whether the new thing would harm the old thing. "Wheee! crash" style (chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/206/2016/9/26) and it feels not nice to me
@Anwar :)
 
@Anwar I need approval from active users. If you're an active user, then...
 
yeah Anwar is here working hard on the Trello thing
 
11:49 AM
@Zanna I don't want to use it for something else. I think it would be helpful, since it involves closing questions.
 
I guess you should read the stuff on the star wall later when you have time
but I'm just saying how I feel about it & it's not up to me
all respect to you and your good work
 
I guess maybe you people can use this room and we will move our stuff to the Lost downboat.
 
can we take our starwall?
 
Hmm, let me see.
bbl - need some stuff to be done. I will see what I can do when I am back.
 
<3
it won't be very nice for Anwar to come back & find we have become crusaders though... I'm not sure I can handle that title!
 
12:39 PM
@Zacharee1 Oh.
 
@Zanna Agreed
 
Phew :)
 
Might change the name to Raiders of Lost downboat.
Anwar has been there in the room before but if he doesn't want to be there now, then I will be where he wants to be.
 
I don't have much problem with only the title. but if you decide to change the title that would be nicer :)
 
What would you like the title to be?
May be I could just make it "Lost downboat".
 
12:45 PM
Not bad
 
Or the raiders part?
 
long one is nicer i think
 
and that room is basically only for trello-related things?
 
Yes, we have appropriated that room for Trello now.
 
glhf
 
1:23 PM
@edwinksl you had better come and join us, what will I do without your critical eye and close votes?
 
@Zanna i have full confidence in your ability to close/downvote 'em all
 
;)
 
i recall someone asking to alias python to python3 before
and this is WHY you shouldn't do it askubuntu.com/questions/833367/…
 
2:00 PM
room topic changed to Ubuntu Regulators: Report evil (or more likely, dupe) questions here for closure. Have a look on how to help us keep the site clean: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/160960/… Instructions for abandoned questions here: docs.google.com/document/d/… (no tags)
@Zacharee1 @KazWolfe All right, the bot is now free to populate the room. Our only issue was it could be an interference here but we found a solution to that too. Have fun and do good to the site.
 
I didn't want to kick you out :(
 
Noo, I am still here.
 
@edwinksl thanks for that!
@Zacharee1 no worries, the trello thing needs its own space I think, better this way :)
 
2:30 PM
!!/start
 
@KazWolfe Hi there! Welcome to WolfBot!
 
okay, he's ready to go. The bot is running on the test data for now, as this is more of an extended test.
@Zanna, meaning you still have bot admin here.
 
2:54 PM
@KazWolfe thanks again for that :)
 
@Zanna woah that's some great I^2R you have
 
@jokerdino + @any other mods: If the bot gets out of hand or gets annoying, you can just run !!/stop to kill it instantly.
 
!! /stop
joking.. thanks for that command.
 
that's why i gave mods that command
 
let's see
!!/stop
 
3:03 PM
@edwinksl This command needs to be run by a Superuser.
 
good
 
eventually I'll be giving mods power to block commands from non-privileged users, silence any running events, or both.
but for now i'll shut up about the bot and let it run.
if you want to ask questions about/know more about/etc. the bot, the Testing Den is always open.
 
:)
 
Oh, one last thing, if you guys want it gone from here, just shoot me a ping and I'll take it back.
 
@edwinksl ;)
 
3:16 PM
@edwinksl ??
 
He means I cool down fast, nice compliment.
 
oh
 
Power = Current (I) Squared times Resistance (R).
 
Hehehe
 
I assumed he was referring to some power. Though I forgot all those equations long ago.
 
3:24 PM
same
 
3:43 PM
I still forget even though I'm actually supposed to know :S
 
 
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4:47 PM
Hey, I don't have any flags left for today, but this is definitely too vague/a dupe: askubuntu.com/questions/833461/…
 
@OwenHines wow I haven't run out of flags for a long time
 
@Zanna Yeah, I just started yesterday and want to help out a lot, so yeah. I haven't gotten any declined yet, they've all been deemed "helpful" so that's good.
@Zanna is it bad that I ran out?
 
Nope, it's excellent :)
(If they were all helpful)
But you get more flags over time, now I get 100 per day, I can't ever find that many things to flag !
@OwenHines thanks very much for your good work
 
Oh, okay. Yeah, if you look at my profile, they're all helpful. And no problem! I love doing this, it makes me feel kinda useful.
Besides, it's a good way to learn, as well. I'm taking a bit of a break on personal programming projects to just do this. Overall, I think this will be helpful to me in getting a computer science career in the future. I have plenty of time, so yeah.
 
5:06 PM
It works like that for me, here to learn as well :)
 
@Zanna mind if I could talk to you in a different chatroom? Don't wanna clutter up the regulator chat with this discussion.
 
@OwenHines Join the general room?
 
@jokerdino Thanks
 
No problem. Keep doing the good work.
 
Sure thing :)
 
5:26 PM
@OwenHines I'm at work now :)
 
@Zanna ew work
Im currently at school so close enough
Not really sure how close High School is to college but eh
 
5:45 PM
slightly more infuriating.
i can just sleep all day at my job. couldn't do that in HS.
 
@OwenHines it's not so bad :)
 
yeah, I think College will be fun. It might be more difficult, but I'll have more freedom and I like the challenges.
 
6:05 PM
Woah, this post is pretty flamey askubuntu.com/questions/833485/…
If anyone could get that checked out, that'd be cool (like I said, out of flags)
 
@OwenHines downvote and move on
 
Alright, cool
When do I earn more flags? Because it seems like I went through them pretty quickly today.
 
you don't need that many tbh
there aren't that many things to flag. i go through around 10 to 20 flags each day
 
@edwinksl Thanks. Yeah, I think that I would, too. But I only have 10 right now so...
 
Once you hit 5k rep, youll use basically no flags.
 
6:16 PM
@KazWolfe Whats the reason for that?
Just not having any use for all of them?
 
you have the close vote power
 
Oh, right
Flagging is pretty much just calling over people that have the close vote privelege right?
 
Sorta
Flagging brings it to the attention of mods and anyone with access to that respective queue.
 
Alright, thanks @KazWolfe
 
and by the time you get up here, you should have well over 50 flags
and you get more flags for being a good flagger.
+1 every 2000 reputation, and another +1 for every net 10 helpful flags (so for each multiple of 10 give by goodFlags - badFlags) you raise.
so if you've raised 10 flags so far, you'll get one more tomorrow if all of your current ones are accepted.
 
6:31 PM
Oh cool
Thanks for the good answer
 
and provided 7 of your flags have been accepted so far, it looks good for you
if you're over in the General chat room, anything Smokey posts is pretty much a free flag.
and if you're here, WolfBot will occasionally throw a flaggable post every now and then.
 
Oh, that's nice
In your experience, am I doing okay for my second day? I really like the idea of becoming part of the community on here.
 
let me stalk you real fast...
 
there, have a free +100. You seem to be doing very well so far.
 
6:35 PM
Oh, wow thanks
 
also congrats on hitting the reputation cap!
 
Yeah, I really like helping out
Thanks!
 
yeah, you look to be a good user as of now. maybe ask a question or two?
 
Yeah, I'm not sure what to ask. I was trying to think of one earlier, but I didn't want to post one that was already answered
 
the rule with duplicates is if your question is different, more detailed/apparent, or otherwise better than an existing one, it's usually okay.
though, if you're a good asker in general and a positive user, a closed question or two isn't really detrimental to you.
I think every user in this chatroom has something closed.
 
6:37 PM
Oh, okay.
 
as long as you don't become a closevote/downvote magnet, you'll be just fine with one or two blemishes on your history.
 
I'll try and think of a couple things that not only I could possibly want answered, but anyone who views the question in the future
 
focus on asking questions for you, not for others, at least for now.
you'll have plenty of chances to write widely-applicable canonical questions in the future, but for now...
 
Just start small for now
got it
 
and do use/go to meta.
 
6:40 PM
My account transfers across, right?
 
correct.
Meta AU is just the discussion site.
in fact, downvotes/upvotes there have no control over your reputation anywhere.
MSE is different, but Ask Ubuntu Meta is not Meta Stack Exchange
 
So it's just a place where your rep stays static according to your base AU rep?
 
you got it
 
I could probably ask some questions like the ones I'm asking here on there, right?
 
yep.
(in fact, it would be better to ask these over in AU General, but it honestly doesn't really matter)
 
6:43 PM
Yeah, I thought so.
Hmm, gonna go and ask something on the AUM
 
be sure to check that there are no dupes
 
yep, of course
quick question, any reason why it says my rep is 195 there but 305 on AU?
 
lol ok
ah there it goes
Would asking about adding documentation for Chromebook installations to the official website be okay for AU?
Because I feel like it's a little off but it doesn't fit meta
 
7:09 PM
it's off-topic period
we don't touch installation. we'll do post-install, but not install
 
7:26 PM
huh, ok
thanks
 
8:09 PM
[WolfBot] Found filtered post, matches word mint: i have deleted my only linux mint. what to do now
 
HAHA IT WORKS
 
huh?
 
8:23 PM
How long do you think it will take to get my flags off of pending?
 
depends on mods and their queues
 
okay
 
8:52 PM
!!/test
 
@Zacharee1 The command !!/test does not exist.
 
oh
 
Well now
 
@WolfBot good job
 
9:57 PM
@WolfBot catching a lot
 
10:21 PM
@KazWolfe I made my first question :)
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Q: My potentially helpful answer possibly lost due to bad question

Owen HinesEarlier, someone posted a "question" (I would hardly consider it that) that was basically him ranting on how he doesn't like how it's difficult to do basic tasks on Ubuntu such as getting the correct permissions to write to a USB and getting an email client to work properly, and the only question...

 

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