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jrg

12:00 AM

for 1.0 and all future releases, yes.

but for you, I will print off and sign a copy of whatever we use to teach.

so that might be 1.0, might be 1.1, might be 1.2, who knows. depends on how fast our upstream libraries ship.

mateo_salta

Woo, cool.

jrg

as much as i dislike using buzzwords, we are an agile writing company.

ew, that left a bad taste in my mouth.

Nathan Osman

@Oli My app is for sale in the UK now. Not sure if you saw my announcement yesterday or not.

mateo_salta

@jrg alacritous

jrg

@mateo_salta heh

Seth

12:18 AM

@Oli No that's fine.

I was thinking myself that might be one of the exceptions for doing that.

Err, that sounds weird. Could have phrased it better.

jrg

12:35 AM

status-fixed

FEichinger

:8840144 If he were Welsh or Irish, he probably wouldn't pronounce the a, though. :P

The Lord of Time

@FEichinger E: Irrelevant.

FEichinger

1:36 AM

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Q: What's this site designed with?

I'm interested in knowing how this site is built? I'm particularly interested in the self moderation system. I's very much like the one on stack overflow, or OpenERP. Is there a CMS, or framework including this functionality as standard? I wanna implement something like that on a forum and that w...

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Q: Self moderation

I'm interested in knowing how is the self moderation system implemented for askubuntu. It's very much like the one on stack overflow, or OpenERP. Is there a CMS, or framework including this functionality as standard? I wanna implement something like that on a forum and that would be a great help....

discussion moderation

^-- can we get those merged now?

Seth

@Oli to the rescue!

Call me V

2:10 AM

@AmithKK ^^ given your sonic obsession

Journeyman Geek

lol

Seth

Just to clarify, this is a no from you then? — Yannis 53 mins ago

o_o

It couldn't be clearer... lol.

Call me V

sarcasm meets facetiousness

Seth

/me looks up facetious.. that word.

@CallmeV Ah, yes exactly.

AHA!

I found it @jrg (err Eliah found it.. anyway): meta.stackoverflow.com/a/175433/203389

Call me V

the definition that comes up first in merriam webster isn't the one i've always known the word as. it's like "flippant intentional overstatement of the obvious with added sarcasm" to some people.

Seth

2:24 AM

oh I see..

Read the comments under the question, this might just be the result of a recent bug and nothing more. Seth's answer appeared before we found the bug, but I'm afraid it's very likely you wasted your time typing this. — Yannis 1 min ago

ROTFL

Call me V

i so need to find my windows isos. i want to take apart the quickbooks odbc connector for giggles.

Seth

O...kay.

@FEichinger I almost added a comment to the same effect...

Call me V

oh there's a squirrel... and something shiny... oh. we were talking about ubuntu and se. nm.

FEichinger

@Seth :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

FEichinger

2:27 AM

@Seth I just thought it was appropriate.

Seth

@CallmeV I don't understand all that... but have a ★

jrg

@seth cool!

Seth

@jrg I thought you wrote one though... I was sure it was you..

You edited it anyway.

jrg

I wrote the original chat message/PSA.

Call me V

@Seth easily distracted, like a dog or cat.

jrg

2:28 AM

Hence the confusion.

FEichinger

@Seth You should've expected that to also be an Eliah post. He's the only one turning a single line into such a huge post.

jrg

LOL. True, but also good. I like in-depth things. :)

FEichinger

I love how even the "Short Version" takes three paragraphs with heavy formatting.

Seth

I like them too when I actually read them..

Eliah really is awesome and he covers every single point.. I just don't usually read everything he says, just upvote.

Hence:

Feb 10 at 21:14, by Seth

request-eliah-answer <-- We need that tag

Call me V

I don't read everything, but when I do...

FEichinger

2:33 AM

I like to think we could all just abandon meta and have Eliah answer everything. Would have the same effect.

Seth

I almost don't bother to answer a meta question because I know Eliah's answer will come and it's gonna be way better than mine. I feel people accept my answer out of sympathy XD

FEichinger

@Seth You mean like here?

Seth

yeah sorta.

Pretty much.

Why are we talking about this again? I'm sure it's uncomfortable if not offensive to some people, not to mention not needed.

FEichinger

@Seth Because you linked to a comment calling an Eliah answer a "waste of time".

Seth

Oh.. yeah. I digress.

Call me V

2:36 AM

An immediate answer is nice, like a band-aid. A huge verbose answer is fine too, like a waiting barrel of battery acid to dissolve future similar questions,

Seth

I just found that comment funny...

FEichinger

To think that Eliah gets informed of all the comments on that MSO post right now ... lol

Seth

I know... I got like 4 "And that's a no from you?"

FEichinger

@Seth You brought that on yourself :P

Seth

Umm.. I don't think so.

Seth

3:09 AM

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Q: Is Ask Ubuntu an Ubuntu Q&A site for everyone?

Some Bee in Bonnet stuff Firstly I would like to define which kind of Ubuntu user I am; (which could be described as an unqualified; unprofessional or amateur user), a home user and am attempting to describe and define my concerns regarding a new user intending to use Ask Ubuntu in order to enab...

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Where did my comment go?

Journeyman Geek

3:41 AM

someone got hungry and ate it

FEichinger

5:46 AM

Silence

Silence is the lack of audible sound or presence of sounds of very low intensity. By analogy, the word silence can also refer to any absence of communication, including in media other than speech. Silence is also used as total communication, in reference to non verbal communication and spiritual connection. Silence also refers to no sounds uttered by anybody in a room or area. Silence is an important factor in many cultural spectacles, as in rituals. In discourse analysis, speakers use brief absences of speech to mark the boundaries of prosodic units. Silence in speech can be hesitation...

Journeyman Geek

its also an alien race from doctor who

FEichinger

6:09 AM

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A: Where can I get the source code for "Ubuntu for phones"?

where is the source? It's April.

Although valid question, NAA.

Rinzwind

6:35 AM

I screwed up :-D

had too many crashes, reinstalled 12.10 but formatted the wrong disc D:

Journeyman Geek

oops?

Rinzwind

ah well ;-)

only thing I am going to miss are my tips and tricks I gathered BUT most of them are backupped as answers on AU >:-D

@JourneymanGeek sure is :-D good episodes those are <3

Journeyman Geek

They were

Rinzwind

new companion is cool :D :D

rm Desktop/ Documents/ Downloads/ Music/ Pictures/ Templates/ Videos/ -rf

Journeyman Geek

lol

Rinzwind

6:41 AM

rm Desktop/ Documents/ Downloads/ Music/ Pictures/ Templates/ Videos/ -rf

>:)

Journeyman Geek

She is. Not sure if I like her as much as pond or martha tho

Rinzwind

darn

what was it again ...

ln -s {dest} {origin} ?

ha wrong... I ALWAYS mess that up

brb :)

1 reboot later :=)

user72446

6:58 AM

it is 'ln -s $origin $dest' ;)

user72446

guess you figured it out yourself in between anyway ;)

Rinzwind

yeah but this aint the 1st time I did it wrong :D :D

user72446

i know that feeling :D

user72446

glad nothing went wrong

Rinzwind

oh the problems started before that >:)

bbl :)

user72446

7:02 AM

alright :)

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Einsteins Grandson

8:25 AM

hey

anybody here?

Mahesh

@EinsteinsGrandson state your problem if you have any.

Einsteins Grandson

ok

i connected an external HDD into Ubuntu but the device is not connected

i have to mount it manually right?

i have Ubuntu 10.4

it's automounted already, so the problem is solved

Amith KK

8:50 AM

appears

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:26 AM

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Q: Enable wifi monitor mode on Samsung Chromebook

I want to buy the Samsung Chromebook and use it with Ubuntu (12.10). I also want to play around with airmon-ng and thus want to use the wifi card in monitor mode. I didn't find any information if the samsung wifi card and the driver support monitor mode. Does anybody know if monitor mode on th...

ubuntu wifi

Takkat

1:39 PM

213441265152351

167 3 20 60

12.04 nvidia nvidia-optimus 11.10 drivers 11.04 graphics

How comes you earn that many badges with so few rep... O.o

jokerdino

too many bounties.

Takkat

> Offered bounties for 2,100 reputation

Ssssh.

Call me V

they're also all question related badges, so it could be views manipulation

legitimate by link-sharing or otherwise

Takkat

Link-sharing is a good thing for AU!

Call me V

I agree that's why I said legitimate or otherwise

Mahesh

2:13 PM

@jokerdino had to push a small fix in the morning. updated the FFE bug too.

/me goes to dinner

Rinzwind

@Takkat 2100 rep gone on bounties :+)

and @takkat we had cake y-day at work due to passing the test I told you about :D

Call me V

2:31 PM

@NathanOsman - Just an FYI, I was looking at the Qt5 for mobiles stuff and the QCA (crypto framework). I'm not sure if it's implemented yet, but it has a C++ method for accessing the local key store in relation to your question on SO about accessing global keystore on Android (QCA depends Qt4 though and the Android functionality probably isn't yet implemented).

jokerdino

3:11 PM

@Mahesh thank you. i checked it

Call me V

3:55 PM

There so needs to be an Ubuntu respin with wine installed out of the box. It always just installs fine for me, but SO many people seem to be unable to install it

Is this dupe-able? askubuntu.com/questions/278573/choosing-c-debugger-on-linux ?

Rinzwind

SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM

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Q: Sell Cc Cvv Good Fresh All Country High Balance

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mail yahoo

jokerdino

bad ~~vendor~~ spammer

Call me V

4:11 PM

It does reek of the same fellow as last time

jokerdino

yes

Amith KK

appears

is there any way to change values in a .dat file?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@AmithKK hexedit?

Amith KK

How do I know which values?

I want to unlock everything in an android game

Dennis Kaarsemaker

guess until it works? :)

Amith KK

4:17 PM

Too many vars to mess with

Each level score

Emerald Count

Time for each stage

for every stage

Red Ring collection

jokerdino

Off-topic. closes the question and sweeps it under the mat

Call me V

@AmithKK there's a java tool for parameter manipulation through instrumenting/reflection, but i can't remember the name. it could tell you where it's being read from specifically

jokerdino

25 seconds and spam bites the dust.

This one is my record.

Amith KK

@jokerdino I know someone with a 1s record

Call me V

@AmithKK fossfreedom does not count as a measuring stick

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Amith KK

4:32 PM

Stand Back!

I'm going to comment on youtube

jokerdino

Spam stopped.

Seth

Did I miss something?

jokerdino

Spam

Seth

D:

Rinzwind

you sure missed it sweth >:)

FEichinger

4:41 PM

@AmithKK o7

Rinzwind

another day wasted playing guild wars 2 :D

Dennis Kaarsemaker

I played python all day

I think I leveled up

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Strange crontab-script interaction (bash)

I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and bash. I've written a pair of shell scripts that allow me to set an alarm which, after ringing, unsets itself. The first, alarmset, allows me to enter a time and modifies the alarm line in the crontab. That line launches the second script, alarmring, which launches a r...

bash ubuntu cron

Amith KK

4:59 PM

> May the Force be equal to mass times acceleration

Seth

@AmithKK LOL

Amith KK

It's from reddit, tumblr and stuff

:P

It's from a cool skit

Seth

It's a law of physics too iirc.

Amith KK

yeah, F=ma :P

F=Mdv/dt + Vdm/dt

Seth

Newton's second law.

Who is newton? Oh wait... Thats me! (jk)

Rinzwind

5:03 PM

weird

rebooting 4 times added 10 minutes to my battery life remaining >:D

Seth

lol.

Amith KK

@Rinzwind I think you broke the law of thermodynamics

better fill a bug report

Seth

Your sincerely,

Oh my.

Amith KK

@CallmeV I saw that before. ROFL'd :P

Rinzwind

it is getting worse

I went from 1:09 to 1:25 just now >:-D

oh wait

1:04 again

Seth

5:08 PM

I'm at 1:56

I'm bored.

Rinzwind

I wish I ever made it to 1:50 but I am using a 6-cell atm.

Oli

@Seth I got bored too so I put a thermal baselayer on underneath my jeans and t-shirt. Now I'm bored and warm.

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Hard to beat moderating in merino wool.

Seth

haha.

@Oli Go answer questions on MSO. That's not boring.

I'm trying to answer one on SU right now.

Oli

I'd rather pull my own teeth out than spend any time on the circus that is MSO.

Seth

Why is that?

jokerdino

5:12 PM

Because MSO

Seth

@jokerdino You're the guy with 1k over there...

jokerdino

Doesn't count.

Seth

I'll take it if you don't want it :P

Oli

@Seth Because it's full of people complaining that their questions weren't duplicate, or that their edits are always getting refused. They're not real problems like the proper sites. It's all too meta.

Call me V

When performing edits, don't misspell tags @Suhaib ... they even auto-complete for you. ref: askubuntu.com/posts/101411/revisions

Seth

5:14 PM

@CallmeV embarrassed

@Oli Well yes. There is a lot of that.

Nathan Osman

o/

Seth

Marshal is actually more of a challenge than you think though.

Rinzwind

today someone wanted me to install win 7 on a notebook.... 25 euro per hour... took me 3 hours cuz he did not have an installation media and/or drivers :X

I am p'd off I did not ask for 50 euro an hour :X

Call me V

o/ @NathanOsman - I'm not sure if my previous actually pinged you, but it's in the log somewhere

Seth

@Rinzwind I just had to install Vista on a 7 computer.. and I don't even get paid!

Rinzwind

5:18 PM

@Seth I refuse to do that...

Seth

lol. I'll get to that point someday..

Rinzwind

oh and I re-installed my own system too this morning... took me less than 30 minutes getting it all up and running.

Call me V

@Rinzwind Driverguide.com scanner ftw

Seth

@Rinzwind Ubuntu?

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Rinzwind

yes 12.10 nuked 13.04... it was getting too buggy

jokerdino

5:19 PM

ubutnu.

3

Call me V

sp? ^^

Rinzwind

oh and I used my system to get his drivers... even the wired needed a driver :X

Oli

utbooni

5

Amith KK

@NathanOsman Gtalk please?

jokerdino

@Oli reminds me of chutney

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Nathan Osman

5:20 PM

@AmithKK Sure.

Seth

@Rinzwind :)

jokerdino

In Unity-tweak-tool news, Whee. Got a FFe approval. Time to lobby a sponsor. :)

Rinzwind

now for some rice + sate + japanese egg

Call me V

@Rinzwind I used to keep a USB Lan adapter around for that purpose

Amith KK

@jokerdino yays :P

Rinzwind

5:22 PM

@CallmeV good one. but I am so addicted to Ubuntu's setup :-X :-X

jokerdino

@AmithKK 30k diff file. want to see?

paste.ubuntu.com/5683530

Seth

Anyone on Kubuntu?

Call me V

@Seth I'm thinking about heading that way on my next LTS install since Qt is moving towards the standard for Ubu

Seth

@Oli Did you use --no-install-recommends?

Rinzwind

@jokerdino I love diff. 2 weeks ago a co-worker wanted to know how it works... so I told him " diff file1 file2". Hour later he comes back: it does not work. get a list of both programs with EVERY line it in... seems he compared 2 files with the same name from 2 systems but those files where actually different (and not copies) :D Now he does not trust diff ....

Oli

5:25 PM

@Seth Don't know why that edited but, no, I've got the whole lot

Seth

:8846138 Can you run /usr/bin/kwrite for me? Please.

Oli

At PPA versions

I don't have kwrite

Seth

O...kay.

It comes with the whole lot iirc

Oli

Okay I'm running it now.

Rinzwind

dr who time bbl

Seth

5:27 PM

It should just open Kwrite.. I guess which kwrite would have been better..

jokerdino

@Rinzwind lol.

Amith KK

BBT

Good Night

Oli

@Seth What are you trying to find out? Rather than sending me a bodge of commands - let me know where you want to get and I can use some brain power to work it out ;)

jokerdino

why.

Oli

Why don't you use kate? that is standard.

Seth

5:29 PM

@Oli I was just trying to figure out where it's binary is stored.

jokerdino

vim. i win.

Seth

@jokerdino Yes you do.

Nathan Osman

@jokerdino No sir, you totally lose. Vim is evil.

jokerdino

But George.. wait a minute.

Seth

LOL

jokerdino

5:30 PM

LOL

Nathan Osman

LOL

Should have pinned the announcement.

Seth

yesterday, by George Edison

Announcement: I have decided to finally retire the name "George Edison" from use on Stack Exchange. As of tomorrow, I will be changing my username everywhere to "Nathan Osman", which is my real name.

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jokerdino

Ah, I missed the PSA

Seth

Uh.. yeah.

We tried to stop him..

And we utterly failed D:

jokerdino

D:

Nathan Osman

5:32 PM

Anyway... what were you saying about Vim?

jokerdino

Nothing. Vim and Emacs are too complex.

People found offense in your message and have flagged it.

Nathan Osman

@jokerdino Which one? :P

Seth

@jokerdino Wait, wut?

Oli

@Seth Just checked - you'll only get kwrite if you install kubuntu-full (or it directly as I just have). It's not in the default manifest. But yes, once installed, it's in /usr/bin/

Seth

@Oli Okay thanks. I'll just come right out next time ;)

Nathan Osman

5:37 PM

Oh, and for next time, I'll show you a little trick.

1. Head to this page.

2. Enter the name of the executable under "Search the contents of packages".

3. Click the package name.

4. Scroll to the bottom and click "list of files".

5. Then you will be able to see what's in the package.

Seth

Ah nice.

Nathan Osman

First entry:

/usr/bin/kwrite

Seth

I was looking for that earlier.

Call me V

there are dpkg commands for that too

Nathan Osman

^--- this

jokerdino

5:39 PM

i think you can use where command or something

Nathan Osman

@jokerdino You mean which :)

jokerdino

whereis vim

@NathanOsman i get confused all the time :P

Takkat

which whereis ;)

Seth

I ended up doing sudo apt-get install kwrite && which kwrite and then sudo apt-get purge kwrite

jokerdino

i appreciate your dedication.

Seth

5:41 PM

Inefficient I know, but it works.

Call me V

apt-file list works too. i generally like apt-file, but it's not always around

FEichinger

@NathanOsman Requires it to be installed, though, no?

Nathan Osman

@FEichinger The which command? Yes.

My first method outlined above will work regardless.

FEichinger

@NathanOsman Not which, the binary you're looking for.

Nathan Osman

@FEichinger Yeah, that's what I meant.

The package containing the binary you are searching for must be installed.

Call me V

5:43 PM

FEichinger

@Seth And from this, I figured Seth didn't really want that. :P

Call me V

dpkg -L requires the package to be installed as well. apt-file does not

Seth

@FEichinger Exactly.

Oli

@CallmeV apt-file requires you download the packages database

Swings and roundabouts

Call me V

Yes it does, but it's one of my first things to install. So yeah...just too convenient not to have

mateo_salta

5:47 PM

quick question, are we encouraging users to repost old posts marked for closing?

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Q: How can I change the selected item colour gtk3 theme's nautilus.css script?

See in the image, selected item "build" colour is black as background colour. How can i change the selected item colour gtk3 theme's nautilus.css script Which section colour need to modify: /* desktop mode */ .nautilus-desktop.nautilus-canvas-item { color: @bg_color; text-shadow: 1 1 ...

nautilus gtk-2

ah, eliah saw that, and posted

hi @EliahKagan

FEichinger

Eliah'd!

mateo_salta

cool, that answers that.

Rinzwind

:)

jokerdino

@fossfreedom the newest version of unity-tweak-tool is now in raring archive. you can update answers if you are satisfied with it. :)

Seth

Did he already answer the Unity question?

I thought you wanted to wait until Raring was out...

jokerdino

6:03 PM

he wanted to update answers.

Seth

oh.

jokerdino

i dont care as long as we get more advertisement :P

Seth

OK.. I was going to answer this once Raring came out.

jokerdino

you can probably get started on it if fossfreedom hasn't yet

Seth

OK.

FEichinger

7:18 PM

I just realized this is a thing:

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Klingon Language & Usage

Proposed Q&A site for teachers, linguists, and learners at all levels wanting to discuss the finer and coarser points of the Klingon language.

Currently in definition.

Seth

Oh. My. Word.

FEichinger

@Seth My thoughts, exactly.

/cc @jrg

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

7:56 PM

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Q: Setup .wine folder in a live CD/USB users home dir?

I'm trying to create an xubuntu live cd/USB that will include wine and some costume configurations. /etc/skel/ is where I've been reading people are placing the directories for custom files but I wanted the default user to have a ~/.wine folder with a few customization that I am making. My big q...

ubuntu live-usb home xubuntu

guntbert

8:24 PM

VTR

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Q: Installing MySQL complete?

How I can install mysql in ubuntu 12.04(gnome 3). So that I will have my mysql installation in /usr/bin/mysql It's library and header files in /usr/lib/mysql and /usr/include/mysql respectively. Last time I tried sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client mysql-common The mysql has been ins...