Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:00 AM

I'm almost positive they did.

Well I've just excited myself. I've discovered (and I'm probably not the first person to discover this) that you can create, fill and chmod a brand new script, as root, in one command. UNLIMITED POWWWWAAAAAAAHHH!

George Edison

@RolandTaylor: Also, I added StackTack support.

strugee

@Oli this changes everything

Eliah Kagan

12:17 AM

Is this an answer? I'm not really sure...

Seth

@EliahKagan No.

It should be a comment in slimmed down form (IMO).

Eliah Kagan

How about this?

Seth

Needs to be a new question.

@EliahKagan You can delete answers with a score of -1 right?

Eliah Kagan

Thx.

Seth

(Since you have 20k)

Eliah Kagan

12:20 AM

(And it seems Oli has now deleted both. :)

@Seth Yes. Well... I can vote to delete them. Generally it takes 3 votes.

Seth

Oh.

I thought 20k users could delete them on their own.

Didn't we already close this?

Marco Ceppi

1:05 AM

STACK EXCHANGE IS OFF LINE

ALL IS LOST

Seth

We'll be moving the #stackexchange network back over to the primary database nodes in a few minutes, the outage should be < 60 seconds.

Tweeted by StackStatus on March 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM

Marco Ceppi

I just so happened to hit it at exactly the right time

Seth

Already back up for me.

@MarcoCeppi lol.. IKR

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison I will change it when 13.04 launches

Seth

And we're done!

Tweeted by StackStatus on March 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Seth

1:29 AM

0

Q: USB-monitors in Ubuntu - Does Ubuntu support Lenovo THINKVISION LT1421?

I'm often changing location, so, I want to buy USB-monitor. Is Ubuntu (I'm use 12.04 LTS with updates) supported any USB-monitors? Is Ubuntu supported Lenovo THINKVISION LT1421? http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/monitor/lt1421/ There are no information about supported OS. Thanks.

What should we do with this?

Is it on-topic? Maybe we should make it more general "Does Ubuntu support USB monitors?"

AbrahamVanHelpsing

There have been several what USB monitors are supported questions

Seth

Have there been? I suspected as much.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I was involved in one of them. Basically we need lists of actually working edge case hardware - I asked a wireless that supports hostapd one. We need to know what USB video card/monitors work beyond general vendor specs

Seth

Hmm. I see.

Sooo....

George Edison

Hey - I claim prior art on the name!

Seth

1:37 AM

@GeorgeEdison Ehh.. What name?

George Edison

"StackStatus"

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Isn't that a bit like claiming prior art on carSeat?

car describes a type of seat...so... just saying

Seth

lol.

George Edison

2:02 AM

It's a joke.

@MarcoCeppi: The Python page in the Ondina CP is broken.

@MarcoCeppi: It's also broken for Ruby on Rails.

@RolandTaylor: Uhm... the site is down until this ------^ gets resolved

Oh wait - hey I figured out how to restart it - never mind.

George Edison

4:19 AM

Time to install valgrind. Fun.

Amith KK

4:33 AM

appears

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A: Gist oneboxing does not work when username is included

Indeed it is! It's now done and it should be fixed once a new version of the chat is deployed.

George Edison

I saw that.

Amith KK

:P

George Edison

Thanks for getting them to fix it.

Amith KK

np

George Edison

@AmithKK: We got a new logo over on 2buntu.

Amith KK

4:34 AM

Looks...a Bit... you know... childish?

No offence meant

George Edison

Roland made it.

Also, I (re)added support for StackTack. Example: 2buntu.com/1186/…

Amith KK

I prefer that

:P

George Edison

You'll have to get Roland to accept it.

I'm just the administrator.

Amith KK

Ping @RolandTaylor

Hey @maggotbrain

maggotbrain

@AmithKK You rang?

What's up?

Amith KK

4:42 AM

no, just saying hi :)

maggotbrain

Hey there. How are you doing?

@AmithKK What's new in your world?

Amith KK

nm

InkBlend

I would like to propose something: these two questions (askubuntu.com/questions/48299/… and askubuntu.com/questions/10998/…) are similar, but deal with rather different subject matter. The first deals with IDEs specifically, whereas the second just asks what would be a good text editor for developing code on.

This has lead to duplicate answers, as well as mis-categorization of some programs (saying that vim is an IDE, etc).

I would like to request that a mod head over, eliminate duplicate answers, and migrate mis-categorized entries over from one question to the other.

We could then link the two questions together so that anyone who thought that they wanted a text editor but really wanted an IDE could see the other question, and vice versa.

Seth

5:01 AM

You have some points there..

But I don't think any answers should be deleted.

And I don't think they should be merged.

We don't like these "list type" questions and I think they should be closed.

maggotbrain

Not closed, but protected once they evolve.

Seth

However you can use Gedit and Vim as IDE's... So those answers are fine.

@maggotbrain Why not closed? We close any new ones that come along.

I think we have great fragmentation when it comes to dealing with these "list type" questions...

Anyway.. I'm going to bed.

George Edison

I think my program has a glitch - in less than 5 seconds, it managed to completely lock up and dump 1.2 GB of data into a file.

Time to debug...

maggotbrain

5:18 AM

@Seth Seriously?

We've got such a spongy line here for list / "canonical" questions here.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

8:08 AM

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Q: To what extent does LXC manage configuring the network interface in a container?

In the LXC config file we can specify an IP address for a container: lxc.network.type=veth lxc.network.link=br0 lxc.network.ipv4 = 10.1.0.35/16 lxc.network.flags=up lxc.network.hwaddr= 00:16:3e:24:26:33 But if the container has the default configuration of DHCP, what's going to happen: # The ...

ubuntu networking dhcp bridge lxc

Amith KK

9:33 AM

BBL

Eliah Kagan

11:24 AM

@InkBlend Individual answers cannot be moved from question to question (except by their authors deleting them in one place and posting them in the other of course ...which resets any score and reputation associated with them). Moderators have the power to merge all the answers from one question into another, or to delete some and then merge all the others, but once a question is merged, that's permanent; that question can never have answers of its own again.

jokerdino

2:00 PM

Happy birthday @MarcoCeppi!

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Ask Ubuntu Meta

3:01 PM

0

Q: Should tags also used for adding extra information

I saw an this post. The author describes a problem but uses the tags to define the version of Ubuntu, to give extra information. He doesn't mention the version in his text. I know that tags should be used to categorize posts. But can tags also be used this way?

discussion tags

0

Q: Change my username

I would like to change my username, but when I first attempted it it gave me an error. I fixed the thing it was squabbling about, but then it said I could only change my username every 30 days (it said I could change it again in 22 hours???) and then it wouldn't let me change my username (I have...

bug user-accounts

InkBlend

3:17 PM

@EliahKagan The questions are CW, right? There would be no rep loss associated with deleting answers in either question, and in fact most answers are present on either question, so it would mostly be a process of deleting either duplicate answers or answers that were miscategorized.

Seth

3:37 PM

@maggotbrain ??

Marco Ceppi

I wonder if we should start a super thread on meta detailing common canonical questions

jokerdino

i thought we had a bunch

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Q: What are common canonical questions for our site?

So according to the Gospel of Spolsky 13:4, a core mission of Stack Exchange communities is to stop re-answering the same questions, and instead build a library of canonical answers. When general duplicates (instances of a problem) arise, we close and refer them to one such answer. For example: ...

discussion duplicates

Amith KK

appears

Happy Birthday @MarcoCeppi

Seth

resists the urge to start a B-day pinging contest

Alvar

close this one

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Q: How to Increase Swap Memory?

2 Months ago, I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in my PC. I never knew what was swap memory and I gave 1.5 GB for Swap Partition but I read in an Article for a PC with 2GB ram and 100GB+ Hard disk, We should allocate 2GB for swap. Now I realize why PC crashes often. How can i increase my swap memory now?

12.04 partitioning swap

Amith KK

3:47 PM

9131 days done @MarcoCeppi :P

Seth

@Alvar Of/for what?

Alvar

@Seth askubuntu.com/questions/178712/… dupe

Seth

Okay. One more vote needed. (hint @AmithKK :P)

Amith KK

Hmph! :P

Seth

:P

Amith KK

3:51 PM

I'm 11 years younger than him :P

Seth

Than..? Marco?

Amith KK

Yeah

Alvar

how old is marco now?

too lazy to click the profile

Seth

25

Alvar

OMG THAT OLD joke

I'm 21, 22 in October..

Amith KK

3:57 PM

Wow this chatroom has changed.

Alvar

@AmithKK no, you are still the youngest! ;)

Amith KK

AskUbuntu history flashes before me

from an Area51 proposal to the source for ubuntu support

Alvar

Now we can say, "in the good old days" quotes!

Amith KK

Hipster Me, Posting funny pictures before it was cool

Alvar

LOL :D

Amith KK

4:02 PM

I should write a book ;)

Seth

@AmithKK With the entire chat transcript :P

Alvar

@Seth too many lolcats for one book!

Seth

lol.

Amith KK

To find the transcript

I shall use my toothpaste on heatsink qu

I.. can't find it

found a good one :P

Nov 2 '11 at 11:46, by Amith KK

> Dating a girl is just like writing software. Everything's going to work just fine in the testing lab (dating), but as soon as you have contract with a customer (marriage), then your program (life) is going to be facing new situations you never expected. You'll be forced to patch the code (admit you're wrong) and then the code (wife) will just end up all bloated and unmaintainable in the end.

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Dan Hulme

do any of you guys know The Fast Show?

Amith KK

4:15 PM

And I was so a prick to Marco :)

Sorry @MarcoCeppi :P

Dan Hulme

it was a sketch show on the BBC about 15 years ago

Seth

Never heard of it..

Amith KK

@DanHulme Never heard of it. Sorry :)

Dan Hulme

One of the recurring characters was a car salesman who always used to say "Selling a car is like making love to a beautiful woman," and give a completely different explanation each time.

I dunno, something just reminded me of him...

Eliah Kagan

@InkBlend I'm not sure when they became CW--reputation associated with a post remains, even when the post becomes community wiki. Deleting such an answer will still remove that reputation. More importantly, the number of votes a post has serves more than just to give reputation to its author. A post's score gauges the community's reaction to the post, and this should be maintained whenever possible.

Flabricorn

4:27 PM

Met a Canonical developer today.

Seth

Cool :)

Amith KK

BBT

Good NIght

mateo_salta

@AmithKK did yo see this one

Dec 1 '12 at 3:12, by mateo_salta

Seth

4:52 PM

Is there a keyboard shortcut for docking an app to the right/left of the screen?

Or in other words, make the app take up half the screen on a respective side..

Ah, I found it.

Ctrl + Super + Left/Right

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

5:08 PM

0

Q: General Package Management (Apt) Questions

I decided to finally learn vi and as I was doing that I realized that vi wasn't behaving as I expected. I learned from another post that this was because, on Ubuntu, vim-tiny is installed by default. After I learned that I chose to install the full version of vim using the following command: s...

ubuntu package-management apt

Eliah Kagan

@Oli Spam.

And it's by (another account named) "vendorcode"! :(

So we should expect several more spam posts soon.

And here's the next spam, right on schedule. ;)

And the French spam that always comes next. It's like deja vu!

(Anyone here, please flag these spam posts if you haven't already. Thanks.)

Oh good, the spam and account are now deleted. (That should buy some time before the next small wave of "vendorcode" spam.)

@Oli And "vendorcode" is back! More spam.

Seth

5:41 PM

Aww. I had started to think the spam was over with..

Seth

5:52 PM

@Oli Are you around?

Amith KK

6:05 PM

@mateo_salta Cool!

Also, Bollywood used NFC before it was cool. How? When Someone dances, everybody in a 10~m radius also gets the dance moves instantly.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@AmithKK Bollywood dancing AoE enchantment

Amith KK

Haha lol

gizmodo.com/5992842/…

Interior Locks. Nuff Said

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Know what this red marriage thing is?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

6:32 PM

Yeah. The US legal system is trying to decide on gay marriage rights, and loads of people are trying to show solidarity for themselves or their friends choices.

Make all legal "marriages" civil unions and make marriage a religious device instead of a legal device. Problem solved. Neither side wants to solve it though, they want to bicker about it and prove the other side wrong.

Amith KK

ok....

well

BBT

Good Night

yells stars ;)

7:36 PM

@EliahKagan You there

Seth

8:06 PM

@LuisAlvarado You there?

I think we should symlink man to manpage..

Seth

8:24 PM

Isn't this a dupe of the fixing dependency question?

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Q: Dependency error while installing own cloud on Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS

While truing to install owncloud client on ubuntu I am hiting the wall because of dependencies!! I googled it and checked everywhere but no remedy, can anyone help? Info: Tried everything on here: http://owncloud.org/sync-clients/ I am having following response from terminal: root@c-THIN:/ho...

64-bit dependencies 32-bit

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I didn't know we had a canonical dupe all dependency questions to this question. I know we have a mergelist one. I sort of despise when people make a product (commercial) and pimp out community support.

Seth

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Q: How do I resolve unmet dependencies?

How do I resolve unmet package dependencies? Occasionally, when I'm installing stuff, I get an error like the following: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages ...

apt package-management

?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

sure, why not

Seth

This is TL as well: askubuntu.com/q/107649/44179

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Okay good. Can you cast the vote? I'm out...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@Seth That's a bug report

It's on launchpad

Seth

8:27 PM

oh, you're right.

Didn't really read the code there.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I'm saying that bug is already reported on launchpad. It has been around and may or may not be fixed.

Seth

Okie.. Close it then.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Added a link. If it fixes the problem it's user/network issues. Otherwise it's the bug and i'll have to dig for it

Seth

Okay.

Thanks :)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

It baffles me that people can't operate google, but they can operate an ask button.

Seth

8:33 PM

lol

They probably don't know what search terms to use though...

I know sometimes I don't.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

The most distinctive part of the error message shrugs

Seth

Yeah.. Guess that would do it.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Also add launchpad or site:launchpad.net to it... just saying

Luis Alvarado

@Seth done

Seth

Thanks @LuisAlvarado :D

Edit tag wiki then ask for tags to be merged :P

@LuisAlvarado Err, wait. I only see a suggested synonym...

Luis Alvarado

8:41 PM

on it

sorry if i work slow, got the flu

in bed atm

Seth

@LuisAlvarado Thank you!

@LuisAlvarado Oh, sorry to here that..

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Closeboats: askubuntu.com/questions/275909/…

@LuisAlvarado I was reaching for a soviet russia flu joke, but decided against it. Feel better.

Luis Alvarado

hehe thanks, closed q

Seth

I need more than 40 votes!! ARGHH.

Such a low limit..

Luis Alvarado

@seth ok SO had an error when doing merge

Seth

8:45 PM

Oh?

Luis Alvarado

it says they will work on it soon

guess we wait

Seth

Oh, OK then.

Thanks for all your help!

Luis Alvarado

np

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Too snarky? askubuntu.com/questions/275915/…

Seth

Not really.

See my comment too.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

8:50 PM

Yerp. My initial response was simply: "REALLY?"

Seth

yeah... I can't believe how people don't read the FAQ and [about] pages...

Oh yeah.. And that reminds me:

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Def... I think some list style questions are discouraged but justified

Seth

4

Q: "[about]" magic link doesn't work in chat, just comments

Recently the new "about" page was rolled out and was soon added to the list of magic links. However this doesn't seem to work in chat, just comments: Could we please expand this to chat? I use these a lot.

feature-request chat magic-links

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Like which ones?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

2

Q: What purchasable wireless cards support master-mode/hostapd?

What I am looking for: links to specific purchasable cards (amazon, google shopping results, anything that will last) There is a preference for N support What I'm not looking for: Your personal ebay link Chipsets as revealed by linux-wireless "this one doesn't work" USB, PCMCIA, Expre...

wireless hardware-recommendation hostapd

Seth

lol.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

8:54 PM

Yeah...

Eliah Kagan

@LuisAlvarado Hi. Not then, but I am now.

George Edison

9:10 PM

This is mildly disturbing:

Seth

Whoa... Where did the double messages come from..?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Network lag probably

@GeorgeEdison Is that a baby honey-badger?

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing probably.

George Edison

Wait- how come the message was displayed twice?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Network lag. It does that.

Seth

9:13 PM

Yeah... sometimes it does that.

George Edison

And then there's this:

3

Seth

What about a ferret?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Seth

9:36 PM

@MarcoCeppi Are you around?

Marco Ceppi

@Seth yes

Seth

This answer could use some comment cleaning: askubuntu.com/a/199714/44179

Dan Hulme

@Seth my zoologist friend says it's a ferret

Seth

@DanHulme Thanks. That's what I thought.. I don't think it's too easy to get your hands on a badger.. around here anyway.

guntbert

hmm..., there is an auto comment that looks strange, its "name" and "description" don't match (to my eyes at least). "name": "[A]Answer that is a question", in the description it then talks about "edit your question - like it was targeted at the OP (which is covered in the following comment "[A]OP adding a new question as an answer ". I'm willing to edit it but would want some input first.

Seth

9:45 PM

Whoever said "there's no such thing as a bad question" clearly had never seen the Internet.

Tweeted by AndrewLBarber on March 29, 2013 at 5:32 AM

@guntbert Lemme look.

Those comments could use some optimization to be sure.

@guntbert I think that one and the one below it got swapped somehow...

That's what it looks like.

guntbert

@Seth, good catch, who does the swap back?

Seth

@guntbert You can if you want :)

Or I can if you don't want ;)

guntbert

@Seth, I'll do it, just for training :-)

Seth

@guntbert Okay, good idea :)

guntbert

there is an excellent tutorial to be found - made by a certain @Seth :-))

Seth

9:50 PM

:)

Oh great. Support for 10.04.4 has been lengthened... To May!!!

One more tweet:

I'm glad all these spammer/hacked Twitter accounts posted the link to a spam question on #StackOverflow so I could delete it...

Tweeted by AndrewLBarber on March 25, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Thanks spammer! lol.

guntbert

@Seth, do you think those empty lines are there for a purpose?

(at the end)

Seth

@guntbert At the bottom of the script? No, I don't think so.

guntbert

ok, I remove them

Seth

Just make sure you don't delete the closing brackets.

@guntbert Also, before you submit the pull request part you can test it to make sure it works.

After clicking "commit"

Click "raw" and put that URL in the userscript.

guntbert

@Seth, thats the "raw" step, isn't it?

Seth

10:00 PM

Yes... Did I mention that?

I don't remember.

guntbert

yes, you did, as I said the tut is excellent

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A: What is the process to get those pro-forma-comments into the "central script"?

Are you talking about the remote sources? Those are hosted on GitHub for all to contribute to. The project's page is here: AskUbuntu / ProFormaComments. I must admit, it was my addition that caused that last parse error and made everything stop working ;) Thanks to AmithKK for finding an...

Seth

Oh, great. Glad I remembered to add that. Thanks :)

Eliah Kagan

@Oli In this answer, when you say /mnt/boot, do you mean just /mnt? You never create /mnt/boot, the root partition is what you're mounting, and you chroot to /mnt, not to /mnt/boot.

Also, maybe this was different in some old release, but sudo on the live CD succeeds without asking for a password, so you may want to remove the thing about inputting a blank password for it.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

o/ @foss

fossfreedom

hi-ya!

guntbert

10:12 PM

@Seth, done

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Anyone have any thoughts on this one? IMO it's one of three things: a)dupe of dependency, b)dupe of multi-arch, c)file a bug with the commercial vendor. All of which are closeable. askubuntu.com/questions/275902/…

Dan Hulme

@AbrahamVanHelpsing If finding out which one of those it is is non-trivial, then it's not really a dupe.

Seth

@guntbert Nice :)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@DanHulme Well he's denying A. If he's not lying in his question it's not B. Which leaves lying about A or C.

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Good grief.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

10:18 PM

Or some user-dependent home-brew QT lib that is set to conflict with the qt-core package, which makes it not applicable to other users in the future...

Seth

That is at least: weird.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I suspect the weird home-brew, but that's outside of scope imo.

Seth

yes it is.

guntbert

@Seth, about your recommendation "fresh install": 10.04->12.04 is just one step, isn't it? I am obviously doing some 1st post reviews right behind you :-)

Seth

@guntbert Hmm. I think so. It would still be easier to just do a fresh install IMO.

guntbert

10:23 PM

@Seth, maybe - with fresh installs I almost always forget to preserve something, so I tend to upgrade as long as viable

guntbert

10:46 PM

@EliahKagan about your answer askubuntu.com/a/275929/117103, wouldn't it be better to omit usermod -a -G your-username and only use adduser your-username sudo ? I've seen several occasion where users forgot the -a and so effectively removed themselves from a bunch of useful groups.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

/me just fell in love with the flexjobs website... should be interesting.

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing ooh cool.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

10:58 PM

An enormous number of telecommute jobs, which would be nice.

Seth

Yes.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Wait a minute... Qt transparency is working in openbox without a compositor...that's weird...

mateo_salta

Hmmm, I usually have to use xcompmgr in lubuntu

Seth

11:21 PM

Err.... spammy'ish sorta:

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Q: hw to protect myself from a hacker

My original operating system windows vista. He(?) completely took over my laptop via permissions and administrator changes. Additionally he would add titles other than Administrator 2 out rank me & I could change nothing. not even the time. If I switched users the screen would the say that I ...

updates

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@mateo_salta that's why it's weird...

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