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Seth

12:11 AM

@Lucio stackoverflow.com/users?tab=moderators

15 I think. Plus the SE employees.

Luis Alvarado

12:44 AM

@Lucio sorry was doing stuff. Hola

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:18 AM

@jrg i'm so asking a question about how to replicate the garmin functionality on ubu-phone and tagging it garmin (jk)

Seth

lol

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Is it okay to request a merge of your own question with an accept to a newer question that might do it better contingent on removing the accept given that they are both self-answers?

I think this: askubuntu.com/questions/258829/… and this: askubuntu.com/questions/205300/… should be merged. His requirement is more detailed so my answer becomes wrong, but there should be a way to link the questions. Maybe if someone knows him - ping him to do an I'll do you one better answer or something to find a way to merge the two with his as the master without totally invalidating

the older one?

Seth

Lemme see.

mateo_salta

I found a new coffee maker!

AbrahamVanHelpsing

You mean it doesn't look like this?

krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/…

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Seth

1:28 AM

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Hmm.. I'd say probably not. His question is exclusive to GTK which is very different from yours.

@mateo_salta You make me thirsty.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@Seth he says Gtk, but his code looks like pygi

mateo_salta

@AbrahamVanHelpsing solar coffee?

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Well you can flag it and see what happens.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@Seth it's related to a comment i made on another one of his answers where he posted a pygi answer on a pygtk question

gets trolled by a programmer

Seth

Eh? Which one?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:30 AM

@mateo_salta it's not a coffee maker, but i like it in principle. they have solar concentrator grills

@Seth askubuntu.com/questions/260461/… is the comment area

Seth

lol "If he isn't he should migrate anyway"

AbrahamVanHelpsing

only if he doesn't want it to run on windows or have to give out cross-compile directions for pygi...yada yada

i didn't engage because it wasn't worth it

Seth

New users answering 2 year old questions :S. Sometimes the world confuses me. But then I do like to read...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

The answer to that is no. That's why none of the answers are accepted. I digress on the intentions of the OP

Seth

OP is an anonymous user...

goes to bad joke corner

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:37 AM

No, it has a name so it was migrated from another site

anon user would have been user56765 or something

Seth

oh I see.

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Ah, from SO.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Yeah "Write a raw disk access library for me and post it on SO" is what he meant

Seth

Ugh.

4 of my 5 edits just got rejected.

And it's this one user.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Sometimes people get frumpy

and I don't know if you realize this, but you left yourself signed in to tic tac toe

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing yes I do realize. What's wrong with that?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:49 AM

nothing "wrong" with it, it just seemed odd

Seth

huh.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

awkward finger quotation marks

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing I favorite all rooms I'm active in.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

hey wait...I see @Matesh in the pic I just posted...

Seth

lol

It's @Mahesh btw

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:52 AM

my bad, but you know what i meant

jrg

@Seth oh man

Seth

@jrg Eh?

jrg

i'm going to pound them so hard at the town halls.

Seth

You mean the "Youngest mod on the planet" thing?

@jrg ooh, now that will be fun to watch. computer, clear my appointments

Actually, all town halls are for that matter...

jrg

@RaghavSood: As the aforementioned 16-year-old moderator, I will note two things: 1. I was 15 when I was elected. 2. I hate this job now.

Seth

1:56 AM

Anyway, I'm thinking of posting on the SU meta... :/

@jrg Do you really hate it?

jrg

@Seth No.

but I'd like him to think that.

Seth

I didn't think so.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Anyone that brings age in to a moderator discussion is a tool. Moving on. (I'm NOT referring to you @jrg)

jrg

@raghavsood Be wary of using me as a reference. ;)

Seth

You know @jrg, you made history whether you like it or not... just sayin.

Everyone is going to look to you now.

jrg

1:58 AM

Hey, i'll also go down in history as the only guy to abuse the superping and not have problems. :)

Seth

lol

AbrahamVanHelpsing

erm, where is this discussion...so i can see the whole of it and maybe cools some jets...

Seth

You just super pinged him?

Decides to hang out a while longer

jrg

stackoverflow.com/election/4#comment-21204058

Seth

2 hours ago, by Seth

@jrg Did you ever think you'd make history? http://stackoverflow.com/election/4#comment-21204058

mateo_salta

1:59 AM

I think @jrg is a super teen from the future, age has no bearing on him.

jrg

that explains a lot though

Seth

in Ask Ubuntu 2013 Moderator Elections, Feb 5 at 17:34, by Luis Alvarado

Now the case of jrg, for the love of god, his 16 acting like 61

jrg

i normally get 0.1 visits/day from AU to my site.

today I got 5.

Seth

BBL

AbrahamVanHelpsing

holy flying pigs, more upvotes to the comment about failing a review audit. that needs to make gemsfromSE

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jrg

2:02 AM

can all of you upboat my comment at the bottom of his nomination?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

You got the uptick for the asking not for the content. Just putting that on record.

jrg

heh. :P

Seth

@RaghavSood don't be intimidated by @jrg ;)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

that edit approval is bot-approval-fodder in a handcart. I'm just saying

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take a look at my recent comment...and for the love of god don't star this. by this i mean here not there.

George Edison

@mateo_salta: Were you able to get NitroShare to compile?

mateo_salta

2:15 AM

@GeorgeEdison I got cmake to make unix make files, but them make failed, do you want the output?

George Edison

Sure, maybe I can help.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

awesome. ten messages down. relaxes a little.

mateo_salta

@GeorgeEdison skydrive.live.com/…

George Edison

Thanks.

mateo_salta

@GeorgeEdison when I made the xcode files with cmake, and tried the project there it sent similar errors. Using cmake 2.8-10 telling it to use gcc 4.7 for c++

George Edison

2:25 AM

Hmm, there are a couple of problems.

You're not actually compiling with GCC, the output says you're compiling with Clang.

...and apparently Clang also requires a special flag to enable C++11 like GCC does.

mateo_salta

hm, so I need to tell make to use gcc?

George Edison

Actually, that would be something you would need to tell CMake.

But it appears that you've compiled Qt5 with Clang.

So it's probably better to stick with Clang for now.

mateo_salta

oh, so how I installed qt5 is the problem

George Edison

I'll add a flag to CMakeLists.txt to enable C++11 support.

...then you should be able to compile it with Clang.

mateo_salta

I'm using the gui for cmake, this is the area to select compilers -

Journeyman Geek

2:29 AM

@Seth why not? ;p

gabemai

Hello, webcamstudio is not working. I keep getting this message:

Hello, webcamstudio is not working. I keep getting this message:
Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException

@JourneymanGeek hello?

Journeyman Geek

yes?

gabemai

Journeyman Geek

You'd think if I knew, I'd tell you to ask it on the main site, then answer it for rep

or at least tell you I knew

rather than not actually saying anything

gabemai

I need help with webcam studio

it wont open

Journeyman Geek

2:36 AM

well, I don't use it, so I don't have a clue ;p

jrg

@gabemai do you have a question on the site?

gabemai

no

Journeyman Geek

well? What're you waiting for?

gabemai

oops i accedentaly flagged somebody

jokerdino

@jrg flaggy?

Journeyman Geek

2:37 AM

looks like a flag

jrg

oh, ok, no worries.

Journeyman Geek

Which I would have rejected

gabemai

instead of replying

jrg

was just weird.

:)

George Edison

@mateo_salta: Okay, I've added experimental support for compiling on Clang now. Please let me know if it works. (You'll have to do 'bzr pull' to grab the changes.)

gabemai

2:37 AM

webcam studio is not working and it will not open

jokerdino

I thought "Do you have a question?". "Darn, that is so offensive."

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Journeyman Geek

@gabemai: chat sucks for help. Thats why we have a Q&A site.

gabemai

ok

mateo_salta

@GeorgeEdison will do

gabemai

sry

Journeyman Geek

2:38 AM

So... go ask already

If nothing else people will comment and try to help you through it

gabemai

here is my question: askubuntu.com/questions/261354/webcamstudio-does-not-open

@JourneymanGeek here is my question: askubuntu.com/questions/261354/webcamstudio-does-not-open

Journeyman Geek

@gabemai: everything else I said still stands

AbrahamVanHelpsing

up arrow to edit for the win... like this

Journeyman Geek

I'm not even on my kubuntu install at the moment

@AbrahamVanHelpsing: he's obviously new, so I'm cutting him some slack.

jokerdino

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Hey, I need some little help with regards to gtk programming in py. Can you help?

This bug is nagging us. Do you have any input?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

2:45 AM

@jokerdino maybe, i have a rageface with that arena on at the moment, but i might have something constructive

jokerdino

@AbrahamVanHelpsing lol

the ubuntu MOTUs are bothered by that bug :/

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: this is a good thing. It means MOTUs use it ;p

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek heh no. I asked them for a review and they WANT that bug to be fixed.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

sounds like you'r app rubbed something in pygi/gtk wrapper core the wrong way. i got the package manager to segfault on borked packages too...i don't think it's your app. i'll look at it. also, someone that plays fruit-ninja should send screen caps of clicks at fruit-ninja speed

jokerdino

i can send you a snippet of code that i have a suspicion on.

paste.ubuntu.com/5566641

AbrahamVanHelpsing

2:50 AM

if you want. i can't see tweaktool as a whole being a culprit

for god sake put an else "you found the bug" in there and see if you can get it to fire...

jokerdino

gtk_style_context_get_property gets too sensitive.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

that doesn't make sense. previous statement seems more right

jokerdino

@AbrahamVanHelpsing where do you want me to drop the else?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

in onstylecontextchange - seems to me it's a "anticipated code-path not reached" type of segfault

line 8-9 break in your snippet

jokerdino

ok the else after the if part doesn't seem to help.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

2:56 AM

seems like not setting a memory area could cause a segfault...

jokerdino

@AbrahamVanHelpsing that might be it. do you know how to fix it? D:

AbrahamVanHelpsing

putting an else in and of itself obviously won't fix it. adding the else just gives you a "oh lord, we thought this is where the un-initialized memory came in" flag

and that's the best i can do on a blurb

jokerdino

@AbrahamVanHelpsing well, i know the thought process. but the else never gets triggered.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

it could be found, but i'm a little busy atm. i'll put it in my queue

if you're sure that's a code path that gets hit on every fault you could be throwing something that gets caught but not handled

jokerdino

I might try that. Let me see

Seth

3:02 AM

@JourneymanGeek Oh, I'm just rather flustered.

@jokerdino I started the list.

Journeyman Geek

over?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

2

might be the root cause

jokerdino

@Seth i got the memo. Thanks!

Seth

@JourneymanGeek just some edits I suggested.

@jokerdino np :)

Journeyman Geek

@Seth: ahh, that kinda thing ;p

I was bitching at SO for rejecting an edit the other day, so I entirely know what that's like

AbrahamVanHelpsing

3:05 AM

if it makes you feel any better you can make dpkg segfault from the cli with malformed input. it's not just you.

jokerdino

heh. it's just about fixing this

AbrahamVanHelpsing

bookmarking tabs and calling it... i'll give you a ring if i trip over something

jokerdino

Thanks!

Seth

@JourneymanGeek lol, yeah.

What made me upset in this case was the guy edited all my edits, but unchecked the "This edit was helpful" box.

Journeyman Geek

ooh, thats not cool

yeah, that's something worth meta-ing. I'd probably have a quick talk with the mods too first if possible just to keep them in the loop

Seth

3:11 AM

@JourneymanGeek OK, I might just do that.

Wasn't sure if it was meta worthy.

Journeyman Geek

I do think it is, I'm just wondering about drama potential

AbrahamVanHelpsing

be sure it's not a misunderstanding. i tried to make a change and acknowledge an edit from fechinger the other day and the edit history came out all jacked up

Seth

@JourneymanGeek What do you mean by "drama potential"?

Journeyman Geek

lol

Well, if someone is annoying enough to improve and not check the tickbox....

or it could be a misunderstanding

Seth

Ah, I see. OK :)

@JourneymanGeek It's actually checked by default ins't it?

Journeyman Geek

3:14 AM

its probably just me being oversensitive after a shitstorm in a non SE community where someone claimed someone else hacked him, and a third party is basically manipulating the first person for maximum drama

I do think so. I usually check to make sure tho

I don't bloody need that 2 rep ;p

Seth

lol

AbrahamVanHelpsing

in my case it was several edits proposed in succession. and on the first one i checked the box. on the second one i unchecked it so it would merge into the first. and it didn't. so the opposite of how i thought edit merges should happen happened...and it looked twice as bad instead of twice as good. just putting that out there.

Seth

@JourneymanGeek I was kinda sorta trying to get 150 rep so I could vote in an election ;)

Journeyman Geek

>_>

where? SU isn't having an election now

Seth

Not yet..

AbrahamVanHelpsing

3:16 AM

SO and Programmers both are...

jokerdino

SO is having an election yep

Seth

yeah, I know SO is.

Like I said, kind sorta maybe.

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Seth

I mean, when it needs and edit, it needs an edit.

Journeyman Geek

I got no hope of voting on either

yeah it does

Seth

3:17 AM

@JourneymanGeek I really wonder how anyone gets rep on SO... its such a mess.

They really have tag clans over there.

Hey. HEY!

Hmmm. @jrg You aren't the youngest mod anymore ;)

jokerdino

Luke isn't either.

Seth

yeah, just read further down the comments..

jokerdino

;)

Seth

But really, not on your profile, doesn't count IMO.

jokerdino

Fine.

Seth

3:26 AM

@JourneymanGeek Should I ask in the mod room or the main room?

@jokerdino no offense.

jokerdino

@Seth It was so offensive man!!

:(

Haha

OK I'm lost :S

@Seth: mod room, and said I suggested it.

There's not always people there tho

Seth

3:29 AM

OK thanks.

Flabricorn

Quick question, why don't people like Mint? (other than obvious competition with Ubuntu)

jokerdino

Because Mint.

Seth

@Flabricorn Since when did people (except @jokerdino) not like Mint?

I'd like it just for the name :P

jokerdino

Mint devs - "Fork all the things"

Flabricorn

@Seth (Still typing @ise - oh.) I just here a lot of bashing on about how people don't like it, but I never found anything that pointed to it and said, "It's not usable and these are the reasons why!"

Seth

3:35 AM

jokerdino

@Flabricorn Do people bash Mint as much as Ubuntu?

Flabricorn

When someone was recommending an OS to a transition user there was a "I use Mint and it's fantastic", the entire rest of the posts were related to "Oh, mint? Seriously?" So I was wondering what made it so bad? (Mostly because I know a guy who wants to transfer and chose mint.)

@jokerdino I don't think so. You only really only hear gentoo and sever guys hating on Ubuntu.

Seth

@Flabricorn (Sorry, people pointed out that I looked like an Apple fan :O) Just pointing out, I haven't seen a DE that wasn't bashed for some reason or other...

jokerdino

@Flabricorn It depends on the sort of people who made such remarks.

For example, hard core linux users look down on Ubuntu because it is too simple and newbie friendly.

Seth

@Flabricorn I do think people tend to look down on Mint.

Sometimes because it looks like Windows

Sometimes 'cause it's grey

jokerdino

3:38 AM

I haven't found someone who dislikes mint though.

Seth

decides to dislike Mint

Flabricorn

KDE and Cinnamon are Windows user friendly, and I know a couple of people who love it, I've just always used Ubuntu myself.

Seth

@Flabricorn I've tried all the things myself...

Always come back to Unity.

jokerdino

I only used Cinnamon for a couple of minutes. Couldn't stand the huge bar on the bottom.

Seth

Though Gnome Shell deserves honorable mention after a few tweaks...

Flabricorn

3:39 AM

I can't work with Unity, it's too distracting. KDE helps me focus, I just theme everything like it's LCARS.

I still hate Gnome 3, I tried it several times because aesthetics, but I couldn't work with it.

Seth

lol

@Flabricorn I had to move the buttons to the left and add a minimize one.

Anyway, I'm out for now.

Flabricorn

I hated that I couldn't minimize things, I think I'll stick with default or my Star TreKDE thanks.

@Seth Thanks, cya!

George Edison

Okay, I am about to introduce the first external dependency for NitroShare (other than Qt5 of course).

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Flabricorn

@GeorgeEdison +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 ... (etc.)

George Edison

I really wanted to avoid this one, but...

It's OpenSSL for the curious.

Qt5 already depends on the library for SSL communications, so it's an extra dependency during compilation.

The shared library is already there during runtime.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

5:21 AM

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Q: What makes a question show up on the homepage?

Earlier I noticed this on the homepage: That's a question I asked at the beginning of the month, but someone else's name is next to it. At first I thought they answered or edited it, but it doesn't look like they did. So...why is it there?

support

Aditya

5:36 AM

askubuntu.com/questions/261386/… and askubuntu.com/q/261383/114818

Spam ^^^

@jokerdino @RolandiXor

@MODS ^^^

jokerdino

What spam?

Anwar

good morning

Aditya

@jokerdino Got deleted...

The other one was active for about 15 mins

@Anwar Good Morning :)

RolandiXor

Don't edit spam.

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jokerdino

@Aditya Yeah sorry. I was chatting somewhere else.

Aditya

5:38 AM

@RolandiXor I edited because it was active for 15 mins

@jokerdino No Problem

RolandiXor

I am just telling you what I was told by higher authorities. Do not edit spam.

Aditya

@RolandiXor Okay

jokerdino

@Aditya The thing is, if you edit it, I need to look up the revision history. Takes time to process the flags.

Aditya

@jokerdino Oh..

No problem... won't do

jokerdino

On the other hand, If I see spam straightaway, I can just nuke it.

Aditya

5:40 AM

BTW, @RolandiXor I hope everything is okay

RolandiXor

Wai?

Aditya

you must be thinking that I poke you a lot :-)

jokerdino

If anything, I watch this chat room whenever online. You can just post the spam and I'd act rightaway.

RolandiXor

whistles

Aditya

@jokerdino Okay

@RolandiXor :-)

RolandiXor

5:49 AM

@Aditya :)

George Edison

0

A: Programmatically Create X509 Certificate using OpenSSL

Okay, I realize this is a very late (and long) answer. But considering how well this question ranks in Google, I figured it might be worth writing a decent answer for. A lot of what you will read below is borrowed from this demo. Before we can actually create a certificate, we need to create ...

That took a lot of typing!

Anwar

@RolandiXor i like that

RolandiXor

@Anwar cool :)

@GeorgeEdison long answer is long.

George Edison

I know.

RolandiXor

:D

Little Child

6:03 AM

@RolandiXor need help with saving a file :) I am being denied permission :)

jokerdino

yes

RolandiXor

Is this from the commandline?

Little Child

No, from gedit :)

Nautilus started via gksu nautilus

jokerdino

what file and where are you saving?

Little Child

@jokerdino I am saving an xml file in /var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/MyApp/WEB-INF/ folder

George Edison

6:05 AM

@LittleChild Running nautilus as root is not recommended.

One wrong button and you can wipe out a lot of files.

Little Child

that is basically like a config file for Servlets

jokerdino

Well, you need to start gedit with gksu.

I prefer sudo nano for such stuff

Anwar

do we have a tag reverse-tethering

Little Child

@jokerdino ok and then try saving with gedit to the desired location ?

jokerdino

@LittleChild yeah.

Anwar

6:06 AM

or is it a good idea to create one

Little Child

@jokerdino alright, let me try and I will get back to you in a minute

jokerdino

@Anwar no idea. if you need one, create one.

Anwar

hmm..... the topic is important one. so creating..

jokerdino

Empty queue. Yeah!

Little Child

@jokerdino no luck. tomcat runs in background by default. Should I stop it first?

jokerdino

6:10 AM

~.~

I am not the tomcat guy.

RolandiXor

Back

Little Child

The file "/var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/Beer-v1/WEB-INF/web.xml" is read-only.

Do you want to try to replace it with the one you are saving?

RolandiXor

Did you change its permissions with nautilus and then open it with gedit?

Little Child

no, I have not changes any permissions. I just edited it and I am trying to save it again

@RolandiXor gksu nautilus and then change the permissions ?

RolandiXor

yeah

just be careful to only change the permissions of that file and don't delete anything :)

Little Child

6:15 AM

@RolandiXor my terminal has this error message `Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.`

erm.. why ? :/

RolandiXor

Did nautilus continue and launch though?

Little Child

@RolandiXor yes

RolandiXor

Ignore the error then.

Little Child

@RolandiXor what is that error by the way ?

jokerdino

It's the samba.

RolandiXor

6:18 AM

It's a non-critical error regarding Samba sharing. There's a question on this site about it if you ever run into actual problems.

Little Child

Veijeany Christopher Samba (born 28 March 1984) is a Congolese footballer who plays as a defender for Queens Park Rangers

LOL

RolandiXor

O_o

Little Child

totally unrelated I know... couldnt resist :D

RolandiXor

xD

George Edison

<--- is thinking of becoming an x509 certificate authority.

Little Child

6:20 AM

@GeorgeEdison crypto expert ? go on !!!

:)

RolandiXor

@GeorgeEdison do it.

George Edison

I'm certainly not an expert - or this would have been a lot easier :P

Little Child

@GeorgeEdison I wanna do a majors in crypto :) it is very interesting but thenI suck at math

George Edison

7:04 AM

Aha, this is funny.

> "Even though the WHATWG was founded by individuals from Apple, the Mozilla Foundation, and Opera, they’re rapidly approaching a budget shortage. Primarily for this reason, sponsored tags are being introduced in to the next version of the HTML6 specification."

And my favorite part:

> "The diamond tier displays a full, non-skippable splash screen before each page load. The default display time is 1 second but you may upgrade the display time and have it be extended in 1 second increments. Each second costs an additional $2,500,000 USD and 50,000 reddit karma points. None of the Reddit karma points may be from re-posts, posts in any of the default sub-reddits, or cat pictures."

RolandiXor

That's why I'm waiting for HTML7. All tags you use must be trending.

George Edison

Remember when we tried to create our own markup language?

RolandiXor

<#justin>Welcome to HTML7</#justin-swoon>

@GeorgeEdison lol yep :D

I'd still like to see a new language some day.

George Edison

launchpad.net/reevolution

RolandiXor

To be able to do Header:{} would be nice :)

George Edison

7:07 AM

There it is.

RolandiXor

:)

The memories!

RolandiXor

7:26 AM

Emesene is essentially dead it seems :/

My hunt for a chat client continues.

Good night :)!

mojo706

7:39 AM

Good morning

Rinzwind

morning

my profession is coding and I came in today and was told I am not allowed to code anything :-(

mojo706

code anything where?

Rinzwind

software ;)

at our company :D we are being audited :-X

so we got a total code-freeze so I was told to keep myself busy..... 200 rep here I come >:D

mojo706

thats good now you can do a side project

Rinzwind

side project? 200 rep today is all I need >:D

mojo706

7:47 AM

I'll try and beat you

Rinzwind

:D bb in a bit

mojo706

cool

mojo706

8:07 AM

anyone had problems with installing Ubuntu on Dynamic HDD's

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