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12:01 AM

Amazon doesn't use a high-res favicon? Interesting.

Everytime I plug in headphones before turning the device on, music plays through both the heeadphones and the internal speaker.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

only starred b/c i couldn't have previously imagined @GeorgeEdison saying le sigh

George Edison

I wish they would fix that.

Maybe it's a hardware glitch.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

They probably initialize it wrong. Initialize card, no jack check, but jack always gets power. And polling is mute/unmute on state change

George Edison

They should hire you :)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:08 AM

It's the only postulation that makes sense. There's just a tiny logic gap...

That I could drive that truck through ;)

@GeorgeEdison So fill me in on what device you're talking about. Does it have hackable software or it's a blob that hates working right?

George Edison

It's a Kindle Touch.

FEichinger

It's an iWantToBeAnAppleDevice

Yeh, that one was awful, I'm gonna hide in the corner again. :(

gertvdijk

@Seth the one I was talking about is barely a day posted. 340 views?! for just a regular question. nothing fancy.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@FEichinger no it's not. i don't think it even tries to be an ipad. it tries to be an ereader with a couple of features. just my opinion. the kindle family doesn't compete with the ipad (with the exception of the kindle fire maybe). different markets.

George Edison

Exactly.

FEichinger

12:14 AM

@AbrahamVanHelpsing I was more referring to getting hacky on it.

To which Amazon takes pretty much the same approach as Apple. A big fat middle finger.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

oh. when the wiki has a "how to unbrick" section i say bump it and use a raspi

which.i.now.have...

gertvdijk

0

Q: Who is Mark Shuttleworth and how is he related to Ubuntu

I really do not know if this is the type of question I can do here (Although it complies with the FAQ) but am doing it to use Askubuntu as a way to show other new users (Students in this case) about some of the history I teach about Ubuntu and to help me link (And simplify) my students to a quest...

development

George Edison

Both require jailbreaking.

gertvdijk

good grief.

George Edison

There are really only two native apps on this device - an MP3 player and web browser.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:18 AM

@gertvdijk check my comment

George Edison

...and no provision for third party software.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@GeorgeEdison yeesh

George Edison

At one point there was talk about a "Kindle SDK" but...

...I never saw it.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Yeah. It should just stay a reader. Putting audio in was a nice touch for audio-books or music while you read, but it's not supposed to be moar power.

FEichinger

@GeorgeEdison kdk.amazon.com/gp/public/gateway ?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:22 AM

It so fits with: Do.One.Thing.Right. Unfortunately on the audio, the one thing isn't right.

George Edison

If I view that link then I'll leave this page.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Private beta request form

George Edison

Only one browser window.

FEichinger

@GeorgeEdison Aww, bummer. Well, basically, they're still in beta.

George Edison

I'm skeptical...

No firmware updates... SDK requires private invites...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:25 AM

Sounds like "we want to hire some people, but instead of interviewing we're requiring you to register for the beta and build something. then if we like it we hire you and seize your property ;)"

wipes cynicism from puddle on floor

George Edison

As long as I get a Kindle Fire :)

FEichinger

> User revenue will be split 70% to the developer and 30% to Amazon net of delivery costs of $0.15/MB.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i'm looking at an hdmi+usb touchscreen for the raspi

George Edison

Does the Raspi work well?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

works well as a cli box. i haven't tried it with a touchscreen yet

George Edison

12:28 AM

I've wondered about getting one...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

moves along

Lucio

@RolandiXor You are a great guy, haha

George Edison

Is a suitable power supply easy to find?

RolandiXor

@Lucio :D

Thanks!

Lucio

@RolandiXor I will delete my comments..

George Edison

12:30 AM

@roland o/

RolandiXor

@GeorgeEdison \o

@Lucio ^_^

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@GeorgeEdison I power it over usb for the time being. Should be easy enough to find 5V and push it on USB...

George Edison

Ah, okay.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

chops up cable and wires it to a battery pod <-- It's no Lithium-Ion shield for the beagle, but it works

George Edison

I can power my Arduino with a 9V battery. Can I do that with a Raspi?

:)

:(

Hmmmm... WiFi really drains the battery...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:35 AM

Either way. I think a cleverly designed battery pod used as a stand would be nice. The weight of the batteries make it stand up at an angle...it would be "wow, you just abused the need for clunky batteries"

George Edison

TTYL.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

later

gertvdijk

@AbrahamVanHelpsing thanks for the bounty btw. :)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

np. i told you why i did it. i mean it was a good answer all things considered, but you were trying to make a rep hump. no reason not to

if you haven't you could read this and consider it for an upgoat on UL unix.stackexchange.com/questions/63900/…

evidently OP doesn't know where the accept button is

Lucio

The 13.04 version is not supported in this site, isn't? yet

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:45 AM

It's still in beta isn't it?

55

Q: There's an issue with an Alpha/Beta Release of Ubuntu, what should I do?

I've been running Alpha releases of Ubuntu for some time now. I keep running into issues - how can I get these resolved? What should I do when I encounter these problems? And where can I find other Ubuntu+1 users to ask questions?

bug-reporting debugging release-management

Lucio

-1

Q: 13.04 daily won't re-load the gnome/unity interface after NVIDIA driver uninstall

Installed NVIDIA driver from site for my Ubuntu 13.04 x64 system and it wasn't able to complete the install due to there being no linux-headers-generic-3.5.0-17 or something similar. During the install it created a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/ which I removed and then rebooted. After logging ...

unity gnome nvidia 13.04 x-swat

@AbrahamVanHelpsing The post should be closed as Off Topic?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

We usually dupe it to that one, because it explains why it is off-topic so people don't get their feelings hurt

maggotbrain

So...would this be a meatspace bug??? :-/ askubuntu.com/questions/252200/…

Lucio

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Oh, well, then I will flag it. Thanks!

Seth

0

Q: Visual Studio 2008 Bug in <algorithm>??? includes algo seems to inadvertently swap the order of iterators on line 3795

I'm trying to get the includes algorithm to work on a set and map by comparing the map's keys to the set's values. The issue that needs to be circumvented is of course that map<K,V>::value_type is pair<K,V> while set<V>::value_type is V so these are not going to work with the de...

discussion

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:53 AM

@maggotbrain that just needs burnination from a mod

Seth

does that look meta to you?

FEichinger

@Seth Are we the MSO Regulators? :P Looks like it belongs on SO, not MSO.

maggotbrain

@AbrahamV Wish there was a flag for WTF?

gertvdijk

@FEichinger @Seth that

AbrahamVanHelpsing

line 3000? corollary line numbering would make the OP not retarded just misguided

Seth

12:56 AM

lol, well there wan't anyone in the Tavern.

gertvdijk

@Seth "Dud you mean" <-- you may want to ninja-edit that

Seth

@gertvdijk yeah, caught that.

I was not calling him a dude.

gertvdijk

@Seth :)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

no that would have been DUUUUUD not dud

2

FEichinger

@gertvdijk Bit typod are awespmr!

Seth

12:58 AM

lol

-4

Q: going to try ubuntu 12 on HP dc7100C will Drivers for motherboard/system be available or necessary?

am an old neophyte again,robbed, suffered broken neck back in 2006,surgery 2/2012 still convalescing was paralyzed quadripartite-good thing I can move,still can't walk without supports very good,but, it's an improvement! Enough feeling sorry for myself!! OUT OF THE WHEELCHAIR!@!!!

drivers

FEichinger

> Enough feeling sorry for myself!! OUT OF THE WHEELCHAIR!@!!!

Seth

lol

FEichinger

That kinda sounds like a suicide note, don't you think?

Lucio

@Seth I think that the title need to be improved.. :-)

Seth

That's one for the blog!

@FEichinger I don't know.

Lucio

1:03 AM

@FEichinger OUT OF THE WHEELCHAIR opposite

FEichinger

@Seth Submit it, then!

Seth

I'm going to flag it as spam.

@FEichinger I might...

or you might :P

why don't you do it?

FEichinger

You were the one who said it was one for the blog, not me! :P

Seth

lol, well, I'm not giving tumblr my email and name.

I might ping Sathya about it if I'm motivated.

Lucio

@Seth You are wrong. I know that sound like that but it should be t is not welcome in our community instead

FEichinger

1:06 AM

@Seth Ah, okay, then I'm gonna do it.

Just gotta find my tumblr password ...

Seth

> This question contains content that a reasonable person would consider offensive, abusive, or hate speech.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

"Troll detected."
"WHERE!"

2

Seth

@Lucio I don't think it falls under that.

Lucio

@Seth I don't think it falls under spam neither :S

gertvdijk

I've vtc'd it first with not constructive.

Seth

1:08 AM

@Lucio closer to spam though.

Spam isn't always advertising.

Lucio

@Seth haha, you won :P

AbrahamVanHelpsing

This is why we need mods that trust SOME users with SMS phone numbers. I'ld be on that like white on rice...but...

gertvdijk

basically, if we edit this to hold only relevant information, it's just the title left, then it's not constructive what's left.

Seth

@gertvdijk Needs to be deleted.

gertvdijk

@Seth of course.

but closing doesn't exclude deleting

moreover, I can only cast to delete if it's closed.

so. get it closed. then get it deleted. then moderators have more time.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:10 AM

edit applied

FEichinger

Screenshot submitted.

Seth

nice :)

gertvdijk

@AbrahamVanHelpsing you know there's a trick to overcome the minimal body length, right?

then you can include "intentionally left blank"

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I could also have inlined a giant blank square, but I wanted clarity

FEichinger

I thought the policy was "Don't edit spam, so the system can learn"?

4

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:12 AM

There is that

Seth

useless edit @AbrahamVanHelpsing

roll back.

gertvdijk

here's how to post an empty body: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/74702/195914

Seth

(for the system)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@jrg roll me back before you close it a spam

jokerdino

ah, thanks for rolling back.

Seth

1:13 AM

lets close it and lock it and put it on @jrg 's wall :P

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AbrahamVanHelpsing

@gertvdijk that's pretty awesome

Flabricorn

Stack Exchange endorses Ruby on Rails!

Whooooot!

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing that whole post is weird.

jrg

@Seth eh?

Seth

Why I like MSO

jrg

1:14 AM

@Flabricorn not SE, just some ex-SE people.

Seth

@jrg you missed it?!?!?!

14 mins ago, by Seth

-4

Q: going to try ubuntu 12 on HP dc7100C will Drivers for motherboard/system be available or necessary?

am an old neophyte again,robbed, suffered broken neck back in 2006,surgery 2/2012 still convalescing was paralyzed quadripartite-good thing I can move,still can't walk without supports very good,but, it's an improvement! Enough feeling sorry for myself!! OUT OF THE WHEELCHAIR!@!!!

drivers

AbrahamVanHelpsing

derp derp derp, derp is the word...i said a derp derp derp, derp is the word

Seth

I knew I shouldn't have wasted a vote on that...

jrg

deleted.

4

and nuked.

3

Lucio

@jrg That is the people that I want

gertvdijk

1:16 AM

@Seth sorry. I just found out I can only cast delete votes on answers apparently.

Lucio

+4 star in less than 5 seconds

4

Seth

Why I love MSO

gertvdijk

we're wasting stars.

8

Seth

bah humbug!

jokerdino

@gertvdijk No, you can cast delete votes on answers only if you have 20k+ rep

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:17 AM

finally, they're in the right order

jokerdino

Delete votes on questions if it is closed and is two days old.

gertvdijk

@jokerdino but, but, I really just casted a delete vote.

Mechanical snail

@Seth That was my fault.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

whoever starred that. i.hate.you.

jokerdino

It shouldn't be possible unless it was your answer.

Seth

1:19 AM

@Mechanicalsnail no really, you don't need to blame the awesomest post in SE on yourself, its not a big deal, no really.

Lucio

@Seth Finally I can login in there!

Seth

jk

@Lucio good :)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

order...it is partially restored.

Flabricorn

@jrg Say, I've had these bad pixels since when I purchased the laptop, is this worth returning? i.imgur.com/zc4UAxy.jpg

jrg

@Flabricorn bad pixels?

Seth

1:19 AM

@Mechanicalsnail so, what do you mean?

gertvdijk

jokerdino

That is not an answer, is it?

Flabricorn

@jrg Just dead, looks like brown smudging on the bottom of the screen.

jrg

@Flabricorn weird.

yes, return it.

Flabricorn

Worth a swap? Got it.

gertvdijk

1:21 AM

@jokerdino No. you're right. but why: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/17296/195914

Lucio

I get 100 rep point just for sing in [there](http://meta.stackoverflow.com). That is not fair!
There is people how wast a day to get a humble bounty :(

jokerdino

Deleting answers is a 20k+ rep privilege.

Deleting questions is a 10k+ privilege.

Seth

@Lucio you get 101 rep on every site after you reach 100 on one site.

That way you can comment and stuff.

gertvdijk

@jokerdino okay. then why couldn't I delete the just deleted post by jrg?

jokerdino

@gertvdijk Because the question is not 2 days old.

Lucio

1:22 AM

@Seth I know, I know. I'm just saying..

gertvdijk

@jokerdino okay. clear. thanks.

Mechanical snail

49

Q: Automatic insertion of dupe-banner after just one close vote is vulnerable to abuse

I see that the "close as duplicate" feature continues to undergo changes. Unfortunately, I must report negatively on this newest one. This time, it's that a banner is added to a question as soon as the very first dup-vote is cast: This just seems: Ripe for Abuse: you can vote for absolutely...

discussion exact-duplicates abuse post-notice

jokerdino

There are a couple of restrictions, really.

Lucio

bye everybody, I will eat :P

Seth

@Mechanicalsnail that was your fault? I'm not following...

Mechanical snail

1:24 AM

@Seth The duplicate banner is my fault.

Seth

@Mechanicalsnail oh? How is that?

jrg

@Mechanicalsnail Hey, a linguistic mod! Nice!

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i suppose this is really irritating for someone interested in linguistics. unless they're interested in farsi where they lv ff th vwls altgthr n cmmn wrtng. makes leaving off capitalization a lot less severe doesn't it?

Mechanical snail

@Seth I tried marking the sandbox as a duplicate to test the dupe banner.

13

A: Formatting Sandbox

...

8

A: Formatting Sandbox

Thanks for your edit! This edit will be visible only to you until it is peer reviewed. Just kidding, your edit was horrible, and nobody cared enough to accept it. Answer, testing comments, creating a new answer so nobody gets bugged by the inbox

AbrahamVanHelpsing

357

A: <kbd> elements are way intrusive

&nb...

Seth

1:34 AM

@Mechanicalsnail ah, OK.

@Mechanicalsnail that one freaked me out.. I was like What edit?? I haven't made any edits!?!?

2

gertvdijk

@Seth seriously? you thought that was a system message?

mateo_salta

what? look at @GeorgeEdison 's comment on this

8

A: Formatting Sandbox

I am having trouble getting rid of the sliver between the images (wrapping them in a <h1></h1> helps.)

Seth

@gertvdijk it looked like one in the right place...

gertvdijk

‮Please do not speak of being messed up until you read this! — George Edison Jan 11 '11 at 22:40

mateo_salta

even the name and time is reversed!

Mechanical snail

1:38 AM

@gertvdijk It even works in chat.

gertvdijk

RTL trick

FEichinger

Oh, where is the XKCD on that ...

gertvdijk

@Nyu: O the wonders of Unicode! — George Edison Jan 30 '11 at 20:10

FEichinger

Collaborative editing can quickly become a textual rap battle fought with increasingly convoluted invocations of U+202a to U+202e.

Seth

lol

jokerdino

1:40 AM

@FEichinger i found a typo in that.

wait, it seems to be fixed.

Seth

@jokerdino 'i' should be 'I' :P

jokerdino

Earlier, The was spelt teh in reverse.

Mechanical snail

@gertvdijk 💩

Luis Alvarado

@FEichinger hahahahhahhaha

FEichinger

@jokerdino Yeh, he fixed it.

Luis Alvarado

1:41 AM

lolllllllll

AbrahamVanHelpsing

shame delete

gertvdijk

@Mechanicalsnail I see []

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Palindrome? 💩...still no

gertvdijk

Mechanical snail

Wikipedia even has a redirect for 💩.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:42 AM

FEichinger

@gertvdijk It's a turd character.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

enough. i'm gniog ot ekoms

gertvdijk

@Mechanicalsnail was that what you wanted to message me?

@mateo_salta nope. keep trying.

FEichinger

@gertvdijk I didn't want to message you anything. o.o

Seth

hehe

gertvdijk

1:45 AM

@FEichinger oops. fixed.

mateo_salta

almost...

Seth

@gertvdijk meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/166507/…

Mechanical snail

@gertvdijk 🐌

gertvdijk

@Mechanicalsnail now you're doing it again.

mateo_salta

hm oh well.

FEichinger

1:51 AM

‮!eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehW

Nope, & gets parsed to & so that doesn't work.

‮Nope, still not working.

2

gertvdijk

@FEichinger it is. see the star!

FEichinger

Now the star list looks awful :(

@gertvdijk And, I was talking about mateo's attempts. :P

‮Mine work perfectly fine.

jrg

what is this?

mateo_salta

er i can't copy it, its invisible

FEichinger

‮U+202E, @jrg.

gertvdijk

1:59 AM

Guys. This is not the sandbox.

Seth

yeah

mateo_salta

(‮‮(magic in a box

2

jrg

Go to the sandbox.

3

Seth

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/38/sandbox

FEichinger

It's the general chat, and this was the topic a few minutes ago!

Seth

1:59 AM

31 secs ago, by jrg

Go to the sandbox.

Hailwood

Morning Everyone, A question for you all, That I don't believe warrants a full question...

I've been doing some reading up about LVM, and from what I have read you can move the logical volume that Ubuntu is currently running off without needing to boot from a liveusb or similar, is this true?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

with lvm, yes, live running disks can be extended and shrunk. i've never moved one though. that's an interesting question.

Mechanical snail

@Seth That's SO chat. Here's the SE chat sandbox: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/1/sandbox

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@Hailwood it seems you can miljan.org/main/2010/05/04/linux-lvm-logical-volume-migration

Seth

@Mechanicalsnail Ah, OK.

Mechanical snail

2:02 AM

@Hailwood You mean like moving it from one disk to another?

Looks like you can: centos.org/docs/5/html/Cluster_Logical_Volume_Manager/…

AbrahamVanHelpsing

yay for us agreeing, boo for referring to a distro that lags as hard as centos

Hailwood

@Mechanicalsnail Well for my case I am wanting to shrink it, but I was curious about moving it as well as I am looking at getting an SSD soon. But for now I should be safe to run sudo lvresize --resizefs -L -150GB /dev/ubuntu/root from inside ubuntu correct?

Mechanical snail

@Hailwood Make a backup first. If you image the whole disk, then if it breaks you can easily restore it.

gertvdijk

@mateo_salta +200

Hailwood

@Mechanicalsnail Ah, I wish I had enough space to do such a thing ;) I have backed up the important data (And this time, It's online! Same drive... different partition is not going to help when your hdd fails as I once found out :D)

mateo_salta

2:11 AM

woo! nice @gertvdijk

Hailwood

@AbrahamVanHelpsing On a side note, I do wonder, would this have been appropriate as a full question? as it's more a theory matter than an actual problem...

@Mechanicalsnail And of course, the other issue is that with shrinking the partition, I need to resize the file system... which has to be unmounted ;)

The Lord of Time

cough livecd cough

resizing the active filesystem is NEVER safe.

gertvdijk

@TheLordofTime man 8 resize2fs

Mechanical snail

@Hailwood I thought ext4 supports online resizing.

gertvdijk

> As of this writing, the Linux 2.6 kernel supports on-line resize for filesystems mounted using ext3 and ext4.

jrg

2:16 AM

@mateo_salta @FEichinger: You really should report that to MSO, they aren't sanitizing their input.

The Lord of Time

@gertvdijk I don't trust it.

@gertvdijk see previous message.

mateo_salta

someone is one it...

2

Q: U+202e in a chat message messes up the starred messages list

I'm sure the devs will be thrilled to have yet another case for which to test: http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/6965398#6965398

bug chat unicode

FEichinger

@jrg It accepts a raw unicode character. That's quite fine, actually.

jrg

oh, gotcha

Mechanical snail

15

Q: How to resize a ext4 root partition at runtime?

How to increase the size of the root partition of a system a runtime? I have a partition that is not allocated after the root partition (which is in ext4), how can I add it to root without having to shutdown the server? thanks

partitioning root ext4 resize

FEichinger

2:18 AM

It does htmlspecialchars() it. Usually sufficient.

mateo_salta

and it has a use for the site that writes in a right to left language.

Hailwood

(Sorry for the large message guys)

sudo lvresize --verbose --resizefs -L -150G /dev/ubuntu/root Finding volume group ubuntu
Executing: fsadm --verbose check /dev/ubuntu/root
fsadm: "ext4" filesystem found on "/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root"
fsadm: Skipping filesystem check for device "/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root" as the filesystem is mounted on /
fsadm failed: 3
Executing: fsadm --verbose resize /dev/ubuntu/root 566673408K
fsadm: "ext4" filesystem found on "/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root"
fsadm: Device "/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root" size is 741334843392 bytes

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@Hailwood it could be an interesting full question

gertvdijk

@Hailwood no, you're shrinking, right?

Hailwood

@gertvdijk Correct

Mechanical snail

2:21 AM

Apparently online shrinking is not supported.

gertvdijk

13

A: How to resize a ext4 root partition at runtime?

It is possible to do a on-line resize of a ext4 filesystem, even if it's your root partition. Use the resize2fs command. sudo resize2fs /dev/sda1 EDIT: On-line shrinking is not allowed: root@brunojcm-htpc:/home# resize2fs /dev/sda5 2654693 resize2fs 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) Filesystem at /dev/sda5 ...

BBT :)

Hailwood

@gertvdijk So, from what I gather off that question, It can be done with an online File System, as long as it's not the root yes?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

looks like an error in the command to me. you're resizing 500 G down to 150? is the 500G original size accurate? and are you sure there is space to shrink it that far?

Hailwood

@AbrahamVanHelpsing I thought the amount was relative? so -150G is taking 150G off the original?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

that's possible. checking the manual

RolandiXor

2:26 AM

‮test

‮hmm

Hailwood

With the + or - sign the value is added to or sub‐
tracted from the actual size of the logical volume and without
it, the value is taken as an absolute one.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

yes. relative according to the manual. i've always done resize with absolute values though. you may have uncovered a bug. try it with an absolute

Hailwood

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Nope, not that, still tells me to unmount it, Almost finished downloading the Ubuntu image, so will just do it through that.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

kk

Hailwood

3:02 AM

So, after running the command I have something I was not expecting, the OS still boots... but...

http://i.imgur.com/WJtNuST.png

@AbrahamVanHelpsing We have the unused space there, but I was actually expecting the space to be on sda2, But perhaps I am misunderstanding this?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

yes you are. the pv retains the space, you can allocate it to another vg, but it's not proper free

it's like saying "i put all this space in a bucket. i can't take it out directly, but i can put it in smaller containers inside the bucket and move the containers around or magically grow and shrink them while running" <-- supposedly

Hailwood

So, If i want to use that new 150GB there to install windows 8, What would you reccomend? (except mot installing it!)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

linux.die.net/man/8/pvresize

think about it like nesting dolls. pvs hold lvs. lvs hold partitions. lvresize is where you stalled. now you got that working. next you have to resize pvs to get your space back

Hailwood

So if I understand this correctly now I wish to use pvresize to resize the pvs to the same size as the lvs (is there a way to tell it this automatically?) and then I will be able to create a new pvs after sda2?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i haven't taken space away from a pv recently. you may experience a similar bug to shrinking the lv...but the goal is shrink the pv. it wouldn't be desirable in your situation to add it to another pv. you're just trying to pull a chunk out of the bucket to partition with fdisk or whatever

Hailwood

3:20 AM

So I find myself confused by the roles of a pvs, a lvs, and a partition.

My understanding was that, say with Ubuntu I would have three partitions inside the lvs, /, home, and swap. If i then wanted say fedora I could do another lvs inside the pvs to contain the fedora partitions, the bonus of the lvs is if I had space after the fedora lvs I could extend the ubuntu lvs into that free space?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Yes. Windows doesn't understand LVs

Hailwood

4:11 AM

Ah I see, Do any non *nix systems understand lv's?

I am curious as to if any of the ext readers for windows can still work with LV's?

Journeyman Geek

the problem is really that the windows ext drivers arn't designed for that

windows has something similar iirc, on servers

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Hailwood

5:11 AM

So I get how to resize the pv now, but the issue of course is that there are blocks allocated outside of the scope of the LV, I am not sure what to do about those...

George Edison

6:13 AM

I see someone found the Unicode RTL character.

Anwar

7:23 AM

Hi

Need to go

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