Morning is there any wrong information in the following statement? ... Just a reminder 16.04 reaches end of standard support between April 22 and 30 2021. You may want to think about upgrading to 18.04 or 20.04. End of Stand Support means no more support or updates. You may not ask questions here either as 16.04 will be off topic. If you sign up for ESM you can still get security patches but that is all. You can sign up for ESM starting on April 30.

@David It kind of make it's poster sound bossy and condescending. Why not stick to answering questions and trying to help people rather than faulting them? If I got a comment like that I would not be happy.

@Zanna what do you think, should this be posted as a comment on every question that mentions 16.04?

16.04 becoming off-topic seems so odd. I remember installing the beta version to get my wifi working on a new netbook when I first stumbled on Ask Ubuntu :)

@C.S.Cameron well I guess there won't be that many of them coming

@C.S.Cameron that would be obnoxious

no one answered the question that was asked

as asked

No part of that in any way sounds condesting or bossy you need to ....

Doing it to every post? :D

what do you mean every post that is pure bull I have never done any such thing

adding it to a tag wiki would be a better idea

@David oh not to you, a few lines down from what you said.

a few weeks back I asked and Tjomas Ward said it was fine to remind users who are still runing 16.04 about its EOL status

@David Maybe but better via the tag wiki, pointing out its out of support, not on topic + that extra info 'if you must'

@David isn't that a matter of opinion? Anyway the tone of the comment seems ok to me although I'm not personally in favour of posting such comments. I don't know for sure if the information is correct. Doesn't Standard Support end when and only when Thomas Ward ♦ says it does? :)

I like the tag wiki idea

dont even know what that is

this here is the wiki for the 16.04 tag

you can reach the wiki by clicking the Learn more link on the tag page

i was told to go by this doc wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases

You can reach the tag page by, for example, typing [16.04] in the search bar, or clicking an instance of the tag on a question

What OP ever reads that?

well people tell me that nobody reads tag wikis

but I still like them

I have had several positive comments when reminding an OP that their version is out of support soon.

well if you want to do it, I don't mind

@Zanna IMO good tag wikis are essential - I'd argue creating a tag wiki should be a mandatory part of tag generation

@JourneymanGeek I agree! so many of our tag wikis need attention

I guess I just dont get it what the tag wikis are good for?

it's a reference page about the tag - what it's all about, when to use it, key questions about it, related tags.

and any 1 can add to it?

anyone can suggest an edit to it

ok the answer is no then

well, not really?

I think that being able to suggest an edit is being able to add to it

when over 80 percent of edits to questions I suggest are denined I have to disagree.

hmm. That seems like a very high rate of rejections. Most reviewers approve or "improve" the majority of edit suggestions they review

high or not its real

anyway, someone usually adds something to the tag wiki of a version of Ubuntu going out of support to say that it's going out of support so if you want to give it a go...

@David Not really. I mean, yes you do seem to get quite a few rejected edits, but most of them are approved. Of your last 40 suggestions, 27 were approved and 13 rejected.

sorry, didn't mean to disappear there - it's power cut season

was going to say you can check your edit suggestion stats by going to a post you suggested an edit on (see the suggestions tab in your profile) and then clicking the Reviewer stats button

afaik those stats are public

it expands to show both reviewer stats and editor stats i.e. how many suggestions reviewers approved, rejected and improved, and how many suggestions an editor had approved and rejected

@Zanna ._. when isn't it?

@JourneymanGeek :D when a state government election is impending!

but I think I get more short power cuts in high summer due to very high demand

@Zanna On one hand, democracy! On the other - it seems like a perfect way for covid to spread

@JourneymanGeek yeah I think the ongoing elections in various states are a major driver of the current surge

Rahul Gandhi recently announced that he would stop holding election rallies

we saw crowds in the streets at least once a week leading up to the elections. Masks a rare sight

@Zanna they are, yes. Neat!

> David had 131 edit suggestions approved, and 29 edit suggestions rejected

That doesn't seem too bad!

not bad at all

Almost exactly the inverse to what @David thought actually: 81.9% approved and 18.1% rejected :)

I read a comment in here a few hours ago i do not see now can comments be removed ?

@David by mods they can, or by their author within the first two minutes of posting

does it not usual still say removed if a mod does it or does that fad away

but I don't see any sign of messages being removed from the chat today

ok thanks

@David that stays in the room, but it's not shown in the transcript

it still puzzles me that so many edits way less then i thouhg ghet declines as all i do in edits is spelling and readability

i was at a food store early this morning and almost everyone staff and customers had mask even when not many in the store

sometimes the OP rejects the edit because they're just confused about what's going on or they don't like their post being edited in any way

@David it's compulsory here

ok i was going to ask if OP had to approve an edit you read my mine

they are not required here by the state but for the first time today I saw a store asking please wear if you are coming in

mind

@David they don't have to, but they can, and they have the power to single-handedly reject or accept (it takes two reviewers if they're not the author of the post (or a mod), unless the first reviewer chooses to "improve" the edit by making further changes - that completes the review without the need for anyone else to look at it)

ok thanks that is getting involvd now

haha sorry

np just my simple brain is getting tired

another reason why good edits are sometimes rejected is that they clash with another edit being made simultaneously

that happens fairly often with new posts

I had quite a number of edits rejected that way

the war of the edits "P

well in a few years I will have the rep not to have to wait in edit queue

lol

@David or you hit the magical tipping point and you get a bunch of rep all at once

had some of thein the last week over 100 rep from a couple of good answers

Yeah, and it's really unfair: old-timers just accumulate rep with no effort. Once you've reached a critical mass of posts, you keep getting rep for them.

My last answer on Super User was posted on Nov 8 2017, and yet my rep has been growing steadily:

Well that too!

But also that you eventually figure out what works

sits in the corner sipping coffee and reading

and gaining REP

lol

Heh, passive rep accumulation vs active rep accumulation:

There is a difference...

if you're sending us some, send me a few bottles of Lambic ;)

morning @terdon

(morning here, anyways)

@David Don't we all?

Morning @ThomasWard!

i will take a few liters of tequilla the blck one not the gold or silver

pffft 'liters'

send me 50-gallon drums of the liquor!

:P

hey I am a Canadain living in Sweden I go with the flow

spirits are SUPER expensive here

a pint here of spirt cost more then I used to pay for a gallon in Portland OR

@ThomasWard only 50 what you do the second day?

that's why i said drums

bring me 50 50-gallon drums :p

sounds good on its way