@Zanna Ask Ubuntu has about 925,662 registered users, 39 users is hardly a quorum, especially if most of the users with questions about 14.04 have a rep of (1) and can't vote. (There are 20,441 questions on Ask Ubuntu tagged 14.04).
@Zanna I just thought that this vote was a joke. TW uses the question, a half page of writing, to tell people to vote for the policy change. The people who the policy change affects can not even vote. As far as I can see the vote has no meaning. Oops I see from the post above this I double posted, sorry.
@Zanna hi is there any way to see who down voted me on an answer? I would like to know why so maybe I can improve. 2 people accepted the answer and then this 1 down vote snuck in.
Changing or deleting the standard python version of Ubuntu is a unrecoverable error. You need to reinstall.
Boot from a live DVD or USB and reinstall. If your live DVD/USB is the same version as the installed Ubuntu version, you will see a "Reinstall" option. This will reinstall the system in the...
Nicholas Saunders 37222 silver badges1616 bronze badges All I did was type *install mist browser. ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/18142/… – David just now Trivial answer converted to comment Edit
@David Maybe it's due to the fact that, in some cases, removing Python could be recoverable. For example either by going to a TTY and reinstalling python and gnome-desktop (if someone uses GNOME) or by using a Live USB and using chroot to install the packages to the hard disk installation.
@David Yes. Moderators can convert answers to comments. They do that for answers that shouldn't have been written as such, and are probably NAAs, but they are useful as comments.
It is also automated in some contexts. At least in meta, if your answer is too short it can be autoconverted to a comment. I think that's only on meta though.
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@David Note that you linked to a question, not an answer, and all the answers there are about downloading the deb file, as the OP is saying, and not installing from the repositories as your comment suggested.
spanked? Not at all! I'm just saying that if the browser is indeed present in the repositories, that should be posted as an answer since the link you gave doesn't mention that at all.
wow, I am now using IntelliJ 2021 edition without ever upgrading from 2020 edition. My snap automatically did the stuff in background, this is the magic of using snap
nope, it does it automatically, when I opened IntelliJ it asked to accept new terms and agreements, then I saw that my version is 2021 and then the pop-up came that intelliJ has been updated by snap
This is why I never manually install any file ever, I only use repository or snap, then I can have peace of mind regarding regular updates getting applied without much effort
Also I have the Ubuntu livepatch stuff enabled
It automatically applies critical kernel patches without the need to reboot, thus minimizing downtime as well as keeping the system secure
I just really dislike it when my machine does stuff without asking. Feels way too "Windowsy"
So if I like the current version of a tool, you can tell me there is a new one and I can choose to upgrade, but I should also be allowed to use the current one which I am used to and behaves the way I want.
But if someone else prefers to have everything updated automatically, good for them!
Eh, there is a real difference between keeping an entire OS out of date and keeping a specific tool, especially an IDE which is unlikely to have security issues that affect your system.
There will be known security holes so that every machine connected to the internet with windows XP is a machine that could be used to attack the rest of us.
The companies are the one who are most reluctant to upgrade their entire system
Imagine developing Android apps on Java5 only
You will have to refer to ancient Java manuals to filter out all the Java features that will not be supported
Also, imagine one such company stuff getting stuck in a project and asking for help in stackoverflow and we tell them that we don't entertain questions on Java5. The employee is likely to loose job
I always wonder why @terdon is so allergic to Canonical :P
If not for canonical Ubuntu would have been just another Linux distro in the ocean of Linux distros. That ubuntu is the go to Linux distro for all beginners, Ubuntu being so popular, many laptops like Dell and Lenovo coming with Ubuntu pre-installed by default, all credit goes to Canonical only
Canonical is like life blood of Ubuntu
Some corporate heavy weight backing is very much essential for commercial success of any platform
Canonical has in-fact tie ups with Dell and Lenovo
Imagine lots of Dell and Lenovo laptops not coming with Ubuntu pre-installed by default, Ubuntu will be loosing 80% of their market share
In every laptop service center you go, if you ask them to install a Linux distro each and every one of them will install Ubuntu on your computer
Go to the popular gaming site steam, in their site they have clearly mentioned they recommed using Ubuntu for Linux platforms, even they release only a .deb Linux client and maintain it regularly, so for gamers on Linux platform, you have no option other than chosing Ubuntu or Ubuntu based derivatives like Linux Mint or Pop OS
All credits go to canonical for tying up with steam for making Ubuntu popular as a gaming platform
speaking of distrowatch, Ubuntu, Xubunu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu Studio all are listed, so adding them all up, Ubuntu ranking goes up significantly
In fact I have two laptops, the more powerful one running Ubuntu and the less powerful one running Xubuntu
@PayelSenapati I have no idea why you would think that. I don't consider Canonical to be the best thing that ever happened to the world, but that doesn't mean I am allergic to them either. They've mostly been a force for good in the Linux world, absolutely. But that doesn't mean they haven't also made mistakes, who hasn't?
@PayelSenapati I strongly disagree with that! Look at the enormous success of Linux in the server world, for example, or at projects like Apache or even mozilla/firefox which are not backed by any corporate sponsor.
@PayelSenapati Of course. But that doesn't change the fact that it is a huge market which is completely dominated by Linux specifically and open source projects in general.
But as for "without corporate backing it won't be popular among the noobs": citation needed.
Back in the day, netscape had a period where it was completely dominant in the browser market without a corporate entity backing it. It is certainly not impossible.
But more importantly, who cares about domination? The only reason you would be interested in domination is if you have a corporate backer so are more interested in making money than making a good tool.
(or likewise for hardware support. Not needing to always jump through hoops to get something running has been a major quality of life improvement. Now its only sometimes0
Unfortunately, the world is full of tools that have become dominant despite being awful just because some corporate backer pushed them. Looking at you, Windows.
If your main interest is making money, as is the case for a for-profit corporation (and nothing wrong with that), then your objective is to dominate your market and if you can do so with a low quality tool, that's fine.
Instead, if your main interest is in producing something of very high quality, as is often the case with volunteer open source projects, then you don't care about domination at all. All you care about is that you are producing something worthwhile.
Now, of course there are loads of cases where a corporation produces something worthwhile.
I'm just saying that a corporation is not required for high quality results. Perhaps it is required to dominate the market (although projects like the Linux kernel, Apache, Mozilla, Wikipedia etc have shown this is not true), but not to produce something good.
And unless you are a for-profit organization, you don't care about domination anyway, so...
I mean, imagine a world where Linux is the most common system on all desktops (it already is the most common in non-desktops i.e. servers and phones) BUT it is a version of Linux (Evil Linux) that is full of spyware, unstable, and just generally shitty. Sure, Linux has now dominated but who has benefited? Only the Evil Corp behind Evil Linux. The users have lost out.
So I don't see why we, the Linux user community, should be wishing for Linux to dominate the desktop PC market. I would like that, but only if it can be done without sacrificing the things that drew me to Linux in the first place.
Domination can be quite bad as well example the only 2 satellite tv providers here in Sweden just merged and the first thing they did was dump a bunch of channels
@C.S.Cameron I'm ready to agree that there's something somehow off about how we decide whether things have community support, but your argument that the votes are insufficient because they don't represent a quorum also seems somehow off, partly because we haven't decided what constitutes a quorum here, and partly because the degree of registered users' engagement with the site varies enormously, from glued-to-the-site-24-7 to posted-a-question-and-never-came-back
but more importantly, as I said before, I don't think the vote is in any serious way about whether we support releases in ESM such as 14.04
You say that the users affected cannot vote. That is a serious problem, and calls those of us who can vote to seriously consider the interests of those users
(As an important aside here, it's not only people who want or have to use 14.04 and want to ask questions about it here who would be affected by any change of policy w/r/t/ our support for it, but also our engaged community who have to try to implement our policies, dedicating their time to reading posts and deciding whether they can be answered within the scope of the site)
But, there was no option on the page to vote to support 14.04
we had yes, we'll change the wording of our close reason to make it describe what we're doing less ambiguously, and we'll carry on doing what we're doing
or no, we'll keep the current, hopelessly ambiguous wording of our close reason, and we'll carry on doing what we're doing
although I consider the rewording a significant improvement, I could not bring myself to vote for it, because I don't want us to carry on doing what we're doing
I want us to stop closing questions about old releases altogether
@Zanna Not sure that it is, actually. After all, this is AU policy, so it should be set by the users of AU and not the (very many) people who might want to ask a question but don't actually frequent the site. The policy is about what the users of this site want to see on their site.
@David there's no way to see who downvoted your answer, but I'm not sure it's an entirely unrecoverable problem - like, reinstalling might be the best option for people who haven't spent ages setting things up the way they like and whatnot, but I think one can often manage to pick up the pieces after making such a dire mistake - at least there are answers about doing so
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