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1:26 AM

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technastic_tc

5:35 PM

Hey mods!

I'm just curious to know why Gopal S's account is temporarily suspended..

In the profile page, the reason is mentioned as "voting irregularities"..

What does that mean?

Kulfy

5:58 PM

A Day in the Penalty Box

Jeff Atwood on April 06, 2009

Are you familiar with the Penalty Box? The penalty box (sometimes called the sin bin, bad box, or bin) is the area in ice hockey, rugby football and some other sports where a player sits to serve the time of a given penalty, for an offense not severe enough to merit outright expulsion from the…

technastic_tc

I did read that..

but that article mentions reasons like being abusive, not helping community in return and other similar reasons..

Kulfy

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A: "This account is temporarily suspended for voting irregularities."

The details of a suspension are private, the moderators involved won't tell you much about it. If the user in question wants to reveal anything himself, he is free to do so. But otherwise the exact details of the suspension will be considered private.

technastic_tc

Thanks for the info @Kulfy

Kulfy

:)

terdon

@technastic_tc as a general rule, suspensions are private. The idea is that a user may get a suspension for breaking the rules but they are welcome to come back and, as long as they behave, the matter is considered closed.

Therefore, mods won't discuss why a specific user was suspended, we consider that private information.

If the user wants to share the reasons, then great, but no mod will tell other users what a suspended user did wrong.

technastic_tc

6:03 PM

ok.. got it!

terdon

Especially since the user isn't here (they're suspended) so they can't defend themselves. It doesn't feel right to discuss them behind their backs.

technastic_tc

I'll ask about the suspension directly to Gopal once the suspension is lifted.

terdon

Eeeek! I am not implying this is what you were doing! Only that mods won't discuss suspensions publicly to protect the user's privacy.

technastic_tc

@terdon yeah.. got it..

But the fact that the user can't defend themselves is kinda weird..

Kulfy

@technastic_tc terdon meant that they can't defend them in chat since they're aren't here as of now.

If the user feels suspension wasn't justified, they can appeal.

technastic_tc

6:07 PM

@Kulfy yeah.. I'm referring to the fact that they can't defend themselves through any medium.

terdon

@technastic_tc What Kulfy said. Of course the user can defend themselves privately to the mods who suspended them, I meant that the user cannot currently use the site, so you and me discussing their suspension is unfair since they cannot come here and defend themselves.

technastic_tc

@Kulfy oh.. really? Please share relevant post.

terdon

When a user is suspended, what happens is that they will receive an email and inbox message from the mod team. The user can then respond to the email and give any evidence they may have that could demonstrate to the mods that they did not break any rules and this has been a misunderstanding.

technastic_tc

@terdon how can they talk to mods? through mail?

terdon

Yes

jokerdino

6:08 PM

@technastic_tc would you like to try and see for yourself?

terdon

They can respond to the suspension email.

technastic_tc

So mods use their personal email-addresses for these stuff?

terdon

No, there is an interface here on site

Kulfy

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A: What can I do to lift or reduce a suspension?

If I am a new contributor and unfamiliar with how things work on SE, can I appeal against the suspension? First of all, if it's your first offense and a minor one, you will usually be warned but not suspended. So either you have been made aware of the rules already, or common sense would have sug...

terdon

We write the text and the Stack Exchange system emails it to the user.

jokerdino

6:09 PM

there is an onsite messaging system for these purposes

terdon

As for defense, I have been a mod since 2014, at one point I was a mod on 3 sites. I have never yet seen a user who had a good defense for a suspension. :/ Mods don't suspend users lightly, when we do, we're usually pretty darn sure we're right.

technastic_tc

@jokerdino try what? are you talking about me trying to do "voting irregularities"?

@terdon oh..

jokerdino

no, mock suspension so you get first hand experience

terdon

@technastic_tc Nah, he's playing with you. He's asking if you would like to be suspended "for science", so you can see how it works #evilMod :P

technastic_tc

@jokerdino that sounds scary..

Are mods allowed to do these kinda "science" suspensions?

terdon

6:11 PM

@technastic_tc this is what you should answer @jokerdino:

Feb 4 '16 at 18:16, by Seth

jokerdino

:D

technastic_tc

@terdon lol!!!

jokerdino

Seth had some awesome gifs

terdon

Heh, I had ordered that one :)

technastic_tc

@terdon ok..

@jokerdino ok..

terdon

6:12 PM

And yes, we can in theory suspend for science. I know of at least one user who had asked for a suspension because they wanted to stay away from the site for a short time.

jokerdino

@technastic_tc only on science sites

technastic_tc

@terdon ok.. can a single mod suspend a user? or do we need multiple mods?

jokerdino

@terdon lol zanna got suspended from chat not long ago

terdon

@jokerdino yep, precisely who I was thinking of :)

But any mod who just suspends for fun, without the explicit support of the suspended user, should be reported to SE.

So, if you ask to be suspended for science, then fine. But if the mod just does it as a joke, then that isn't cool.

jokerdino

@technastic_tc one is enough

technastic_tc

6:14 PM

@terdon oh..

@jokerdino Ask Ubuntu isn't a science site exactly :P

@jokerdino wait.. when did that happen?

@terdon ok..

terdon

@technastic_tc She asked to be suspended. She didn't do anything wrong.

technastic_tc

@terdon Since she is already a mod, can she self-suspend?

terdon

She wasn't at the time.

technastic_tc

oh.. ok.

terdon

But yes, mods can self suspend. It's just pointless because we can also self-unsuspend.

technastic_tc

6:17 PM

@terdon haha

@Kulfy thanks!

terdon

One last thing. Pro tip: if you're ever suspended from Ask Ubuntu, the best way to reduce the suspension is to buy a lot of coffee for @ThomasWard. (not really though. --ThomasWard)

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technastic_tc

@terdon I don't live in the US such that I can buy coffee for Thomas

terdon

Then you'd better not get suspended!

:P

technastic_tc

So, you've met Thomas in real life?

Hey @Pythoniscool

Welcome to Ask Ubuntu General Room!

Python is cool

Hey bro. whats up? Thanks. Cool room

technastic_tc

6:26 PM

@Pythoniscool You're welcome :)

I'm just curious.. how did you get to know about Ask Ubuntu?

Python is cool

I was installing Ubuntu and the window of installation had an article on it about ask ubuntu

Then I checked it out and it was cool

technastic_tc

oh.. cool!

Python is cool

BTW. You know how to encrypt my hard drive in ubuntu?

terdon

@technastic_tc No, I'm not in the US either, but I've spent enough time around him to know that he's as addicted to coffee as I am. Possibly more.

technastic_tc

@Pythoniscool Nope :(

Python is cool

6:29 PM

NP

technastic_tc

Do check the site for Qs relating to this topic..

or if you can't find a good one.. do ask a question :)

terdon

Doesn't Ubuntu have some sort of GUI thing for this?

Kulfy

Nov 6 at 14:41, by Thomas Ward

sips coffee and quietly chooses to vaguely reply

technastic_tc

@terdon I've never encrypted hard drive.. so I have no clue..

@Kulfy Ah!

Python is cool

I kinda heard that it is important to do because ubuntu is open source and I got curious. I will check it out. Thanks

@terdon I am afraid not

technastic_tc

6:30 PM

@terdon ok..

BTW, @Pythoniscool do share your Arch experience with @terdon (since terdon is an Arch Linux user)

terdon

@Pythoniscool It does, but apparently it's only while installing: help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption

Kulfy

@technastic_tc There's lot of example chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=coffee&user=10145

in Charcoal HQ, Aug 28 '18 at 15:57, by Thomas Ward

HOT COFFEE ALL DAY AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH shot

technastic_tc

@Kulfy haha

Python is cool

Of curse. It is a pleasure. I actually was curious to see how arch works. Since I am an ubuntu user and I love it I installed ARCH on a VMWare. It was really hard. It has no packages by default. Kinda had to install all packages that I need( Which are installed default in ubuntu). I think Arch is good if you are short on Memory. Right?

technastic_tc

"I installed Ubuntu on a VMWare"?

Python is cool

6:34 PM

I mean I installed Arch on A VMWare sorry

technastic_tc

BTW @Pythoniscool, do share your Ubuntu story here:

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Q: What's your Ubuntu story?

Ask Ubuntu is 10 years young now! And the community is always growing. It's time to celebrate, isn't it? We came to Ask Ubuntu to ask questions about Ubuntu because many of us were noobs at using it, or at least I was. But the question which many of us don't ask ourselves is "What's your Ubuntu s...

terdon

Arch is good if you want to tweak the system to be exactly as you want it. It is not good if you want things that "just work" out of the box.

technastic_tc

@terdon what about Manjaro? I've heard that it's pretty customisable..

Python is cool

Ok. When I started learning Python and developing I realized windows is trash. Then I installed Ubuntu a month ago with dual-boot(Windows). After a week I completely removed windows and Became an Ubuntu user.(Ubuntu was better anyway. Since we didn't have windows support in Iran)

Kulfy

Manjaro is based on Arch

terdon

6:37 PM

I haven't tried Manjaro. But it's basically Arch, so I'm sure it is very customizable.

Python is cool

@terdon Agree

technastic_tc

@Pythoniscool Please share your story by answering this post: meta.askubuntu.com/q/19335/1103140

Python is cool

Ok. Just a sec.

technastic_tc

@Kulfy ok..

@Pythoniscool take your time :)

Python is cool

@technastic_tc Done I posted it

Oh damn. I said my country

technastic_tc

6:40 PM

:)

@Pythoniscool that's ok.

If you feel it's private, you can delete your message I guess

I guess you can't since the time limit for deleting the message is probably done.

Python is cool

Nah. Most people feel offended by the name of my country. I didn't want to annoy people

technastic_tc

@Pythoniscool Nothing like that will happen in Ask Ubuntu community :)

Python is cool

:)

Kulfy

@Pythoniscool Errr??? One of our mod is Iranian.

Python is cool

LOL Who?

Kulfy

6:44 PM

wiki.ubuntu.com/ravexina

Python is cool

I actually never saw someone Iranian on Ubuntu community

Everyone uses Windows here since it is free

technastic_tc

@Pythoniscool there are some people if I'm not wrong.

@Pythoniscool Windows is free?

Python is cool

Yeah. Due to sanctions we can not have windows so we get it cracked and use it free

Thomas Ward

@terdon except if I set you in the suspension.

you'll get torched hard and it stays that way

Python is cool

I mean we can but we can not activate it so we crack it

@ThomasWard ?

technastic_tc

6:46 PM

@Pythoniscool ok..

Thomas Ward

@Pythoniscool not everything is relevant to you

terdon

@ThomasWard mmmmm.... freshly roasted beans.....mmmmm

Thomas Ward

26 mins ago, by terdon

One last thing. Pro tip: if you're ever suspended from Ask Ubuntu, the best way to reduce the suspension is to buy a lot of coffee for @ThomasWard.

technastic_tc

@Pythoniscool He was replying to terdon's message

@ThomasWard let's be kind to new user :)

Python is cool

@ThomasWard Ok sorry

BTW Can we uninstall pre-installed games on ubuntu? I mean possible or like windows they are compulsory?

technastic_tc

6:50 PM

@Pythoniscool I guess you can. Are you talking about the games like Chess, etc.?

Python is cool

Yess. There are 4 games pre-installed on my device and are super annoying to me.

sudo apt-get autoremove<game>

?

technastic_tc

You need to find out the package names and then you can uninstall them..

terdon

Just remove, not autoremove

technastic_tc

can we use purge?

Python is cool

Nah. I have to go to the files and find their package name.

Anyway nice talk guys. Thank you all bye

technastic_tc

6:53 PM

@Pythoniscool Bye!

terdon

@technastic_tc you could, yes.

technastic_tc

ok..

@ThomasWard What's your Ubuntu story?

Kulfy

7:35 PM

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No waffling, right to the point: What? When? Where? Table support 2020-11-23 Meta Stack Exchange & DBA Meta More table support week of 2020-11-30 DBA Stack Exchange Even more table support week of 2020-12-07 Network-wide launch (if no major issues found) That's right. It's finally...

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BeastOfCaerbannog

7:59 PM

@Pythoniscool you can run this to uninstall the games: sudo apt purge gnome-mines gnome-mahjongg gnome-sudoku aisleriot

You could also uninstall them using GNOME Software.

BeastOfCaerbannog

10:29 PM

@Kulfy that's a great feature!

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