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@terdon I've mostly kept my big mount shut on the issue... Just updated my profile prior to the CoC being published and linking to people directly in the background.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Nope, you're not.

>:-)

@Fabby Please, please don't. Just.... don't

Seriously

I know you mean well and you want to make a joke etc, but we've been dealing with trolls doing that sort of thing and having a decent user joke about it is really not helpful.

@terdon Don't what? Link up to people in the background before leaving permanently?

You are likely to be flagged, banned, suspended, drawn and quartered, crucified, you name it.

@Fabby No, don't update your profile with pronouns for a joke. Please.

Not now.

@terdon Did you read it? I actually had a laugh from a trans women in another chat room on the network about my preferred pronoun.

0:-)

1:32 PM

@Fabby I did read it. Most won't. Which is why I strongly urge you not to do this.

Too bad Heather isn't around any more: she would be able to shed a real light on the issues.

Believe me, we have been talking about this non-stop for 3 weeks.

@terdon Editing again... My defense was going to be: "Hey, this was posted before the CoC change.

@Fabby As far as I'm concerned, you don't need a defense. I know you just mean it as light-hearted fun. I can just assure you that there will be people who will take it as trolling. This isn't the time for jokes on that subject, the network is still in full on meltdown and there are people (from all sides of the various debates) trawling the sites for things to get upset about. Don't feed them!

@terdon Please verify.

1:40 PM

@Rinzwind Re. "kde is far too flashy for me", with a little effort, and with no super skills, it can be made really boring :)

@Fabby Better, I guess. But on your head be it.

@terdon FYI: I'm not in arms about the CoC itself, but about the well-meant gender inclusiveness leading to exclusion.

@Fabby Look, I have all sorts of opinions on the general trend in society too. All I'm saying is that at this point in time, it isn't a good idea to express any opinion if it can be avoided.

E.G. I've talked to someone with DID and "they" just freaks them out, a transgender woman who is happy about pronouns being made an issue but sad that there is no pronoun field and sad about it leading to a moderator having her diamond removed etc.

@terdon Thinking...

(because what you're asking amounts to doing nothing and that's not an option: too many mistakes have been made by SE and the need to start thinking before acting)

(But as usual: always willing to listen)

@Fabby Well, OK. Feel free to express your opinion, I just would recommend you do not express your opinion by adding fake pronouns to your profile. That is what many trolls have been doing so it is very likely to be perceived as trolling.

1:52 PM

@terdon Removing last line.

Just for @Fabby youtube.com/watch?v=JrdEMERq8MA

@DKBose Edited profile again... cc @terdon

@DKBose Watching only now

@DKBose :* 0:-)

@DKBose If more people would do that, there'd be less murders, war and generally less misery on this planet.

(Though I like the original better)

@Fabby I purposely chose this version. The other was a bit graphic :)

Ah! (Original removed...) 0:-)

@DKBose You British?

No! But we were colonized by them! Even now, all that goes wrong can, with some mental agility, be blamed on them :D

2:08 PM

@DKBose I must've asked this before... I get a strange feeling you're Aussie, right?

(or not even close?)

No need to give away personal facts! (only if you're willing)

Nope, Indian, but travelled a bit.

@DKBose I would never have guessed that one!

(ok, maybe after 10 tries...)

Well, blame the Jesuit school and college for that!