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Zanna
Zanna
12:52 AM
@terdon oooh thanks! I'm not around there now, but that could be good for later trips :)
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
1:21 AM
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Q: systemd service stop always fails

SiKingI am converting our service startup script from SysV to systemd. Our "service" is a java server running in Netty. To start the service, in the unit file I have something like: [Service] SyslogIdentifier=%N Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/bin/java -jar ....jar I don't think the exact command is re...

ubuntu systemd
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
1:54 AM
slow going... keep getting distracted, so xubuntu downloaded, do I use unetbootin to make the usb bootable drive?
it only lists up to 14.04 for xubuntu though
should I use Etcher?
Nevermind, unetbootin should really make it clearer that the top and bottom are mutually exclusive...
 
 
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Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
3:12 AM
kernel panic on xubuntu startup...?
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
3:24 AM
Looks like I ordered the wrong model... :(
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
3:36 AM
wow, was actually able to get it to boot!
hmmm wifi isn't working...
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
4:02 AM
I checked the password twice...
3rd time's the charm, it seems to be working!
2 wifi indicators though...
Any other things I should check out before blowing away Windows?
 
 
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Fabby
Fabby
1:24 PM
@AaronHall :D :D :D
Good one! Thanks, I needed that! (Juggling cooking for a surprise birthday party together with trying to install a pHANA.)
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
@Fabby I kinda meant it, is unetbootin still the way to do it?
 
Fabby
Fabby
:49625292Oh, Erm, Just boot the 18.04 ISO from a thumb drive...
(after dd-ing it to said thumbdrive)
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
I thought a program like unetbootin was required...
 
Fabby
Fabby
@AaronHall unetbootin is a GUI, so you can still use that, but as you know what dd is and have a running Linux system already, why bother?
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
can you point to instructions? I did already use unetbootin, but I've got to tweak the boot in grub...
 
Fabby
Fabby
1:28 PM
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Q: How to create a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive from terminal?

Avinash RajIs there any way to create a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive from the terminal without using any third-party applications like YUMI, Unetbootin, Startup Disk Creator, etc. I tried to create a bootable Ubuntu flash drive with dd method, sudo umount /dev/sdb sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/de...

command-line system-installation live-usb portable
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
I've rarely used dd, and I don't really know what unetbootin does. If all it does is dd the iso onto the thumbdrive... and why haven't I seen that link before?
 
Fabby
Fabby
1:58 PM
@AaronHall Because (unlike me) you're human???
:D ;-)
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
@Fabby I only do this like once every few years. :)
 
Fabby
Fabby
@AaronHall Yeah, I hear you! I'm still on 16.04...
as I don't like upgrading every 2 years, I'll probably be moving to Manjaro (Arch, but easier) and KDE plasma...
I like complex things without having to build my own kernel from scratch...
(that's just too complex!)
:D ;-)
 
Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall
I really want to do LFS, but I never have the time.
 
 
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Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
3:57 PM
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Q: Ubuntu 18.04 and 18.10 doesnt detect external monitors

prototypeSince Ubuntu 18.04.2 my laptop (Aero 15x) doesnt detect my external monitors anymore. 18.04 detected them just fine. I tried updating to newest ubuntu (18.10) but they still dont seem to be detected. Screenshot: I installed the recommended nvidia 390 driver also tried driver 4xx without su...

ubuntu nvidia
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
4:36 PM
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Q: ssh asking for a password but not accepting it

mranonI'm trying to scp through a virtual machine but when the guest terminal asks for my host user password it simply does not accept my real user password. Is the machine asking for another entry? The user is not root and I know it's password in the host machine it looks like this: user@host's pas...

ubuntu ssh virtual-machine
 
 
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Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
6:31 PM
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Q: How to send input to process' STDIN from terminal without sending EOF?

ShuzhengI'm studying computer science and doing CTF's and exploit exercises in my free time. I want to send input to a program's STDIN (i.e. the payload below) in a format-string exploit exercise, where the program is reading from fgets() twice. Now, if I pipe the payload (see below), then system("sh;#...

bash shell ubuntu tty
 
 
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Jeremy31
Jeremy31
8:34 PM
Anyone know if ubuntuplace.info is legit? Looks like askubuntu in french
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@terdon @Seth @ThomasWard any of our beloved mods on duty ?
@Rinzwind +1, I would love a queue like that. It'd be much easier for a person to contact someone who knows or at least may know how to handle a question
@Jeremy31 Probably not legit. A lot of websites scrape stackoverflow and other sites to drive traffic to themselves to get that sweet add revenue. There's ways to report sites somewhere
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
I tried asking Thomas Ward on IRC but he must be away from the computer
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
370
Q: A site (or scraper) is copying content from Stack Exchange. What should I do?

PopsSince day one of Stack Overflow, all content posted on Stack Exchange sites by their users (i.e. you wonderful people) has been provided to the whole universe under the CC BY-SA license. For my fellow non-lawyers, that license basically means: Anyone can use any Stack Exchange posts at any time...

support faq attribution copycat-sites screen-scraping
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
Sounds like a scraper to me
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Check if they do attribution ( preserve answerer's names, questioner's name, etc ) and if they don't allow logging in. If they allow logging in and names aren't same as on askubuntu - report the site
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
8:44 PM
The names are the same as I did a search and found a lot of my posts
I am not going to try logging in, just in case it is there to steal passwords
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
You don't have to log in, just check if the login page opens
OK, from my side I don't even see an option to log into the site, so it is OK
Duplication of content is alright, so long as they provide attribution, and so long as users aren't required to share personal information
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
No login, but nothing says or links back to askubuntu
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Hmm, fair point
@Jeremy31 I'll handle that
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
I know there is an Ubuntu reddit site that has AU questions, but when you click on those links you come to AU
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Jeremy31 That's perfectly fine. /r/Ubuntu actually encourages people to post on askubuntu and they don't usually handle questions/troubleshootings
@Jeremy31 what were some of the search terms that lead you to that site via google ( or another search engine if you use that ) ?
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
8:58 PM
Segiy, I don't remember what search, I was searching for how to install swift on ubuntu- checked my browser history
sergiy, whoops
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Jeremy31 OK, I've submitted a report. From there we don't have to do anything else - StackExchange will look into it and decide if the content is OK to keep
@Jeremy31 No worries, just use Serg , I tell most people to call me that
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
I reported an info site to Canonical legal last year because it looked exactly like ubuntuforums, less than a week later, the .info site was gone
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
9:14 PM
Thanks Sergiy,
later
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Welcome
Sorry, I tabbed out - cleaning my inbox. 6k messages
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy sits on you
was there a reason you summoned us?
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
scraper site, I think
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Jeremy31 Actaully busy with work and video games :p
report the scraper site to SE with the Contact Us button
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@ThomasWard throws down on the ground Yes, there's a reason. Unlock this post askubuntu.com/q/355012/295286 and remove the comparison tag. Then you can sit on me all you want
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
9:19 PM
mods can't do squat about scrapers.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Although maybe don't, because I have poor lower back
Also, I forgot to add "Please" to that ping message. Just FYI, I'm not trying to speak in a rude tone, just in case anyone misinterprets that
<3
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy um
that post has been merged an eon ago
unlocking it would cause headaches
i can just remove the tag myself
it's still locked but that's a merged post, a lot harder to unlock merged posts without flak
also APPARENTLY comcast hates me :P
just rebooted my net
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
hate them back
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
declares war on them
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Yeah, I had some interwebs issues earlier, but I'm non comcast
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
9:30 PM
realizes there's no other ISP servicing this building
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
The internet is just bad lately
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
goes back to playing Ace Combat 7
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Probably the botnets are on the rise
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy oh ALSO
this is what custom flags are for
so use them
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@ThomasWard Yesh, yer mejeshty
That locked post just was preventing me from deleting the damn tag
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
9:31 PM
it's still locked :p
but keep in mind "locked" vs. "merged" - locks, we can work with, merges are system-imposed locks
and those're things we have to be careful with
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Owl-right, so I just use a custom flag if I see a merged post ?
Where's the button to delete it ?
In other fun news, I am 5th top answerer for command-line tag apparently, dragging behind muru, oli, hemayl, and Radu
Gotta step up my game or something like that
 
Seth
Seth
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy still need anything?
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Seth Thomas handled it, thank you.
@terdon cc ^
 
Seth
Seth
:+1
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
9:48 PM
I need to start figuring out how to deal with my email clutter,because this is kinda ridiculous
smoke, brb
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
10:08 PM
back
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
If this is the place to abuse moderators, I will leave again
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
<humor>Technically it is not the place to abuse moderators, but we do need to whip them from time to time, just so that they don't forget who elected them </humor>
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
I am glad I didn't nominate myself, even though I had 0 chance. I am a moderator on ubuntuforums.org and forums.linuxmint.com
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
I ran for a moderator once, but didn't make it. I would run for a moderator on another site, but I already have plenty of things to do outside of the site
 
Jeremy31
Jeremy31
Serg with your reputation on here, you should have plenty of moderator level abilities
Did Jacob Vlijm get accepted as an Ubuntu member?
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
10:27 PM
I don't know, but I guess we'll find out
Technically, I could become a moderator, but I'm pretty sure a lot of people won't like my moderating style
I've views on things like new users, voting to close "off-topic" questions, and a few others - and these views don't exactly get a lot of support nor attention, though they work fairly nice for myself
 
Fabby
Fabby
10:47 PM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy That's the problem with being a genius: most people don't understand you.
(also a problem of being bat-shit crazy. Please coose your own inconvenience)
0:-) ;-)
Me, for myself, I'll choose bat-shit crazy any day!
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Fabby Depends on whos looking
To some people one is batshit crazy. To others - genius.
Either way, it's their right and I've sort of switched to letting people decide for themselves. Meanwhile I'll just do my best with what I have and with what I can do
Speaking of Ubuntu memberships, I should get mine someday
I've had my wiki page for a long long time
 
Seth
Seth
@Jeremy31 Did he attempt it?!
This is the first I heard.
oh damn
I see it in the starboard now
fuck
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Seth Apparently so, look at the star board
 
Seth
Seth
damn. Let me see if I missed it,.
I don't see an email about a new ubuntu member anyway.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
I don't think we've missed it. Otherwise there would be a star congratulating him for getting the membership
 
Seth
Seth
11:02 PM
good point.
Yeah I just checked. He's not on any of the upcoming boards yet
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Seth Quick question, so what's gonna happen with Unity Tweak ?
 
Seth
Seth
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Well, as you know, I've been dealing with some shitty health issues for a couple of years now and the only other active team members have had things happen in their own lives, so it's pretty dead right now.
There's not been any active discussion about it, but I don't think anyone is motivated to work on it now that Unity is dead.
If a major bug pops up I'd be willing to attempt a patch but otherwise it will probably just go unmaintained along with Unity.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
OK. That's what I was curious about. Unity is technically not supported, but still available
 
Seth
Seth
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Yeah. The API should be pretty stable. I think there are a few features that actually need to be removed but otherwise everything should work fine.
And I don't foresee anything breaking until Unity does.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Even though I've moved on from Unity, it'd be kinda cool if Canonical reanimated the project
 
Seth
Seth
11:08 PM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Unity or UTT? I'd freaking love to see Unity come back.
Best environment ever.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Seth Well, UTT isn't Canonical's creation, so I was talking about Unity
 
Seth
Seth
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy gotcha. Wasn't 100% which you meant. I doubt it will happen, but I can dream..
I actually need to get Linux installed on this machine. Not sure what to use these days though. Literally nothing operates like Unity did :(
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Seth Give Deepin or Budgie a try.
I use Deepin
 
Seth
Seth
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I tried budgie a few years ago when it came out, didn't really like it. Although I should look again, it's been a while.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
If you feel unsure about using a Chinese distro, the next best alternative is Budgie
 
Seth
Seth
11:12 PM
Not sure I've even heard of Deepin
I mean I know Deepin, but not the DE side of it.
I'll probably just end up on Kubuntu tbh
or OpenSUSE
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Seth Deepin is sort of Unity-ish desktop. There's a dock, and panel available for install from repos. The control center is a side-panel much like in Budgie, but I like it far better. I also tried budgie once, and it didn't stick for me
Deepin is also written in mostly C++ and Qt, although dbus and GSettings are used extensively. Desktop is based on GNOME originally, but by now it is vastly different
I actually really want to contribute to the distro and I've made a version of my Launcher List indicator for Deepin, but other things took priority lately
IDK, I have a lot of want things. Actually, I've been working on polishing my older software and adding features . . . well, sort of . . .researching so far before actually adding code and pissing of bunch of existing users
 

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