Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:00 AM

When you get back from your smoke break I'll be doing laundry for a bit. But I have a question. The last bounty I lost I had upvoted the guy who won. Is that normal? In the current bounty where I'm Wayyyy behind in points I also upvoted the leader. Wonder if I'm just too generous with voting?: askubuntu.com/questions/1041674/… I actually think my answer is way simpler and better.

Fabby

fab-root@fab-ux-predator:~
$ sudo apt install peek
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package peek

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1. `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:peek-developers/stable`
2. `sudo apt-get update`

3. Then rinse, repeat :D

gotta grab laundry ... BRB

Fabby

@WinEunuuchs2Unix One less vote for him, one more for you. Lemme add a comment too!

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I need to sleep!

2AM and meeting at 09:00

Good night! Drop by on a Friday-evening...

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

12:20 AM

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Q: How can I list all files which will be installed by an APT package?

This is similar to How can I generate a full listing of the files installed by a package? However, I haven't installed the package, yet. I wanted to list all files which will be installed by APT package xorg. In other words: all files which will be installed when I type apt install xorg. However...

Seth

3:52 AM

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy If you can give me a start and an end message I'll see what I can do.

Journeyman Geek

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hm

Did that work?

.... did I just break the room?

Seth

Looks like it jg

but I don't see a message that explains what happened lol

Journeyman Geek

I AM SO SORRY

Seth

oh I do after reloading.

Journeyman Geek

ok looks better now

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

3:54 AM

@JourneymanGeek much better

merci

I'm still awarding nbounty tho

Journeyman Geek

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not a problem

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

But probably I'll avoid the chat for a while

Journeyman Geek

Cause I've been having one of those weeks, as @Seth might attest ;)

Seth

actually, I uh, haven't really been paying much attention to the site lately :(

got a lot of nastiness happening IRL right now

Journeyman Geek

@Seth oh, not here XD

Seth

3:56 AM

oh ok lol

Journeyman Geek

mostly out of band chat actually

+ I've been keeping a few non SU folk filled in on the matchmaking thing, and the related drama lol

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Seth Understandable. Sorry to ping you, just first Mod that came to mind. So ugh....maybe take it as compliment ?

Seth

have we had out of band communication? I know that seems like a silly question but I seriously have been forgetting things minutes after recently.

Journeyman Geek

naw

Seth

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Never be afraid to ping me :)

Journeyman Geek

3:57 AM

SU does. Some of our users are a wee bit uncomfortable with certain CM initiatives

and there's some stuff I'd rather not talk about on default public chat

Seth

ah. Yeah there's been a lot of stuff happening at SE lately. I've just been too distracted IRL to pay much attention. That and I usually am not a big fan so I kinda avoid it too if I'm already dealing with IRL garbage.

Journeyman Geek

yup

The funny thing is, we're completely unaffected

We've always had an alt chat (first gitter, now we do matrix)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

speaking of garbage, the new side panel on SO isn't my favorite feature

Journeyman Geek

I like it actually

Seth

I don't like it much either.

Journeyman Geek

4:01 AM

I actually think they should go further and throw a link to chat there

Seth

How's matrix though? Seems interesting.

Journeyman Geek

Oh, I have a large screen

@Seth its a bit odd to set up, but once it is, works well

also.

Do. not. ever. join #matrix on the main server on your own homserver

@Seth architecture is cool. It works very well as a distributed chat system

Seth

@JourneymanGeek That's good to hear.

Journeyman Geek

Its more of a nice swap for IRC or jabber tho

Seth

@JourneymanGeek Oh?

Journeyman Geek

4:02 AM

@Seth default install uses a sql3 db

(and the migration script to postgres was borked)

if you connect to the channel, the scrollback and user numbers... kinda pegs a processor at 100% at the server for a few hours

Its better with postgres, and if you're running a server, its a better idea

Seth

4:26 AM

@JourneymanGeek That's not surprising considering sql3, as you said.

Journeyman Geek

Err sqlite3

Seth

right. I knew what you meant :)

Journeyman Geek

4:47 AM

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There we are

dessert

6:38 AM

Trick question: How do you use echo to print only “-n” followed by newline?

$ echo -- -n
-- -n

Videonauth

7:04 AM

@dessert echo '-n '

dessert

@Videonauth that’s cheating, there’s a space we don’t want!

Videonauth

:p

but it works

dessert

the solution is:

$ echo -ne -n\\n
-n

(or quoted in any other way of course)

I wonder why echo doesn’t recognise --…

dessert

7:23 AM

Is it intentional that TLDP is so close to TLDR?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:54 AM

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Q: Problems booting debootstrapped image (no DHCP network)

i'm having the problem getting a DHCP ip from the network on an ubuntu image i created with debootstrap. What I did: First i created a system using debootstrap sudo debootstrap --variant=minbase --arch=amd64 bionic /tmp/src Then I customize that system for my needs and create a squashfs file...

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Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:11 AM

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Q: Why is there a call to `clear_console` in `~/.bash_logout`?

When I log in with the same user on tty1 and tty2 and start an X server session on tty1 - as soon as I log out of tty2, the X server session on tty1 crashes. This seems to be a known bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834270 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux.deb...

bash debian ubuntu xorg x-server

dessert

1:10 PM

Ubuntu 16.04 ships with bash 4.3 while 18.04 comes with bash 4.4. I’m wondering, what did they change? Apparently a lot: tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/bash/NEWS

> Command and process substitutions now turn off the `-v' option when
executing, as other shells seem to do.

> All builtin commands recognize the `--help' option and print a usage
summary.

> Bash does not allow function names containing /' and =' to be exported.

> GLOBIGNORE, the pattern substitution word expansion, and programmable
completion match filtering now honor the value of the `nocasematch' option.

> Executing the rhs of && and || will no longer cause the shell to fork if
it's not necessary.

> The `local' builtin takes a new argument: `-', which will cause it to save
and the single-letter shell options and restore their previous values at
function return.

and the list goes on and on, didn’t even get to “New Features in Readline” yet…

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

1:44 PM

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Q: Open multiple instances of a given application

I am using Ubuntu (Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS 64-bit) with the Gnome desktop environment. I am new to the OS (2 months). My issue is that in the Activities menu, when searching for and selecting a software, if an instance of that software is already open, clicking on it won't open a new instance (new wi...

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Thomas Ward

3:01 PM

@Fabby well that's just a side effect of my brand of 'crazy' :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

3:55 PM

@dessert trick answer: you don't echo, and use printf instead :p

dessert

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I just knew you would say that! :D

still I don’t get why echo makes it so difficult, it would be so simple if it would just recognise --

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@dessert I don't think it's echo, but the POSIX specs. Or th But I do agree that -- would be a nice addition.

ok, I'll just send message without finishing editing, that's fine, too

dessert

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I hope you got well after yesterday? ;P

Did you raise this bounty intentionally? Either way I greatly revised my answer there, just in case.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@dessert Currently alright, having coffee. Couldn't fall asleep for long time though, because of headache and lowerback.

@dessert Em....that was done while I was drunk, but it's 100% serious. I'll get it awarded in 9 hours.

dessert

4:16 PM

that would really boost my reputation earned through bounties :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

:)

Videonauth

5:10 PM

anyone interested in a steam key for 'shadowrun returns deluxe'?

@seth @NathanOsman ^

got it for free on humble bundle but it seems i already have this version

humblebundle.com/store/shadowrun-returns-deluxe

just in case i get this key quit before you guys are able to respond

Seth

@Videonauth I don't think that's something I would play, but thank you for offering :)

Videonauth

well its a game which runs natively on linux :)

i just was not thinking far enough and claimed a key and realized then that i already have it

Seth

That's nice! I'm glad more developers are writing for Linux now. Steam really helped that out,

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: 'ip route show' showing network interface linkdown and not getting dhcp ip on the kvm guest machine

I am having this issues for long time, I am not able to fix this issues. Would someone please help me to resolve this network problem. I have two different network vendors NIC is attached with the kvm host, management port is getting dhcp ip but SmartNIC interface nfp_p0 and nfp_p1 showing linkd...

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Videonauth

5:50 PM

@Seth yes indeed, even major titles meanwhile

like deus ex mankind divided and rise of the tomb raider and tomb raider 2013, mad max etc etc

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

6:42 PM

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Q: git and ssh-over-fuse not working anymore

I have few repos that i use from remote machine over ssh. Last time i used them in prev year and all works flawlessly. But today when i'm try - i got errors fatal: write error: Operation not supported fatal: index-pack failed Destination dir connected via Nemo through gvfsd-fuse (path looks li...

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