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Videonauth

2:30 AM

yawns

Nathan Osman

3:07 AM

"If your device with iOS 11 unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2, 2017, learn what to do."

Apple is on a roll.

And by that, I mean they are rolling downhill.

Videonauth

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Q: Searching for data from file1 in file2

In order to answer a given question (which is borderline on AU in terms of off-topicness) on Ask Ubuntu I came up with two scripts for doing the following task: Compare two files for an occurrence of column no. 6 value in file1 occurs in file2. On finding data output the line and if not do some ...

@NathanOsman If you're unable to update or still have issues after the update, contact your nearest Home Depot for a big hammer.

Nathan Osman

LOL

Videonauth

:P

Ashu

3:48 AM

I need some help regarding removing ubuntu from dual boot Windows 10 laptop?

this one askubuntu.com/questions/133533/… is not accurate or up to date

Anwar

4:32 AM

@karel I knew you could something like that, but afaik there is no automated option to select. Thanks for the link though

Cam CK

Can someone help me?

Anwar

Depends on the question :)

Cam CK

So I'm trying to install tomahawk music player on my Kubuntu distro

but it won't owkr

here are my terminal logs

??

pizzalovingnerd@ThePizzaGod:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tomahawk/ppa
[sudo] password for pizzalovingnerd:
Ubuntu Packages for the Tomahawk social media player.

For Ubuntu 16.04 users: Tomahawk 0.8.4 is in the official ubuntu sources!
More info: https://launchpad.net/~tomahawk/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
Press [ENTER] to continue or Ctrl-c to cancel adding it.

gpg: keybox '/tmp/tmpntts1y4v/pubring.gpg' created
gpg: /tmp/tmpntts1y4v/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
gpg: key 566BCB5EF661FE79: public key "Launchpad PPA for Tomahawk Friends" imported

@Anwar I uploaded it

Anwar

That PPA is on dinosaur age!

Videonauth

@CamCK "... does not have a Release file." indicates that there is no build for 17.10 yet on this repository. you can however (this might result later in problems) trick Ubuntu to use the 17.04 repositories. Just this is not recommended and should be used with caution

I personally think you're better of with building it from sources if you insist using this program

When iI see the age of the latest builds on that ppa I concur with @Anwar

Cam CK

4:44 AM

@Videonauth I'm a new linux user, how do I do this?

Videonauth

tomahawk 110 weeks ago
Successfully built
libechonest 110 weeks ago
Successfully built

Anwar

And it's lying

Description says it's for 16.04 users, but I didn't find any build for 16.04!

Videonauth

yep latest build was for wily

Cam CK

How do I compile from the source

Anwar

find a good ppa

first

Cam CK

4:47 AM

That's the only one

tomahawk-player.org

Anwar

check here github.com/tomahawk-player/tomahawk/issues/543

You don't need the ppa if official repo has updated package

The devs seems lazy (or busy) to update the site

@Anwar it doesn't

??

read that thread carefully plz. You need to enable universe repo

Videonauth

4:53 AM

@Anwar it isn't in the repos at all for artful (17.10)

guess it got dropped because no one is maintaining it

github.com/tomahawk-player/tomahawk/commit/…

what makes tomahawk so much better than VLC ?

Anwar

Leave that unmaintained software then please

Videonauth

where you easily can install even a very recent version 3.0.0 if you so wish

Cam CK

'universe' distribution component is already enabled for all sources.
pizzalovingnerd@ThePizzaGod:~$ sudo apt-get install tomahawk
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package tomahawk
pizzalovingnerd@ThePizzaGod:~$

Anwar

It's not worth the effort reviving a dead player imo

Videonauth

bes course of action if youre in for a very verstile player:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/master-daily
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install vlc

Cam CK

5:01 AM

I need it to use Apple Music on Linux

Videonauth

this one works wonderful, I personally use it

Cam CK

I've used VLC.

Videonauth

ah ok

Cam CK

Doesn't work with Apple Music

Anwar

Linux kernel development report linuxfoundation.org/2017-linux-kernel-report-landing-page

Cam CK

5:02 AM

My dad got it for my for Xmas

me*

Anwar

Find other players that work with Apple Music. Have you checked clementine?

Cam CK

@Anwar If clementine had apple music support

I would be using it

Anwar

Which players have you tried?

Cam CK

Cleminetine, VLC, Tomahawk, and Banshee

Nathan Osman

GNU Parallel is officially cool.

2

It works great for batch image conversion.

Cam CK

5:06 AM

Nice

Videonauth

@NathanOsman you have any ides for a player which works with apple music on ubuntu? beside tomahawk

Nathan Osman

Does it have a web player?

I can't remember.

Anwar

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Q: Apple Music on Ubuntu

How can I use Apple Music on Ubuntu, if its possible? Im thinking about switching over from spotify, but Im not sure if its worth it if I cant access the music from my desktop. Thank you!

music apple music-player

Cam CK

Thanks

Anwar

Wine was the best answer

Nathan Osman

5:09 AM

I wonder if the Android app could work in one of those Android emulators floating around.

ARChon or something?

Anwar

That's another possibility

Cam CK

Is Anbox good?

karel

5:47 AM

@CamCK I have Anbox and Whatsapp installed in a VirtualBox VM and it works in my Ubuntu 17.04. I also posted an answer here about how I installed them: askubuntu.com/questions/944238/anbox-install-problem/…

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

7:12 AM

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Q: How tied are Linux installations to hardware?

If I install Linux on a USB stick using computer A, then plug it into computer B with different hardware and try to boot and work on it, should I generally expect it to work? Or should I rather accept that Linux, when installed (as opposed to using Live CD/USB), gets tied to the hardware and is g...

ubuntu opensuse hardware hardware-compatibility compatibility

Nathan Osman

7:57 AM

Wow. My PC is really slow at H.265/HEVC encoding.

I mean, I expected it to be slow but not this slow.

dessert

8:16 AM

@NathanOsman Thanks for making me aware of this masterpiece!

dessert

8:31 AM

wow, this citation notice thingy of GNU parallel is … invasive. I'm not quite sure whether this should be considered good practice. Is there a history behind this though?

Videonauth

10:34 AM

ok what is GNU parallel ?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:09 AM

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Q: Weird netcat (OpenBSD version) behavior

I am using Ubuntu server 16.04.3, it comes with the OpenBSD version of netcat. I have used the OpenBSD version of netcat before in Fedora, and in Fedora I can't use the -p option with the -l option, for example the following is illegal: nc -l -p 12345 But in Ubuntu server 16.04.3, the above c...

linux ubuntu netcat

dessert

12:39 PM

GNU parallel

GNU parallel is a command-line driven utility for Linux and other Unix-like operating systems which allows the user to execute shell scripts in parallel. GNU parallel is free software, written by Ole Tange in Perl. It is available under the terms of GPLv3. == Usage == The most common usage is to replace the shell loop, for example to the form of where the file list contains arguments for do_something and where process_output may be empty. Scripts using parallel are often easier to read than scripts using pexec. The program parallel features also grouping of standard output and standard error...

That's a poor example there, it's much more powerful.

rtf manpage ;)

sudo apt install parallel

Eliah Kagan

@dessert There's lists.gnu.org/archive/html/parallel/2013-11/msg00006.html and its replies, but beyond that I'm not sure.

Videonauth

2:25 PM

@popey askubuntu.com/q/982752

Videonauth

3:41 PM

@terdon I'm actually torn on one question if to close vote it or let it be, it is the one i pinged the link to popey since it is tagged canonical could you share your insight with me :)

terdon

3:56 PM

@Videonauth I don't really know. I don't know enough about what Canonical is doing with these snaps things to judge if this is really opinion based or if a dev can give a definitive answer. Sorry.

Madara Uchiha

4:10 PM

hOi

Videonauth

hello

Madara Uchiha

What might cause Ubuntu to not appear in the BIOS settings boot order, but to do appear in the boot menu?

I've installed Ubuntu 16.04.03 LTS alongside Windows 10

I can boot Ubuntu if I explicitly open the boot menu and choose ubuntu, but I can't make the BIOS choose ubuntu (grub) as the first option for boot, it's not there

Videonauth

you have a virus on your machine ;P no need for a scanneer, i know its name already, it is windows 10

(kidding)

Madara Uchiha

Yeah, no kidding...

Videonauth

no clue to be honest, never had an UEFI machine myself yet

Byte Commander

4:15 PM

It's really most likely Windows' fault, because they likely mess with UEFI and refuse to let other boot loaders in

cl-netbox

Hello everyone :)

Byte Commander

On my own machine, I had to reconfigure Win's boot loader to chainload GRUB instead of Windows, because I was not able to load GRUB directly.

hi

Videonauth

o/ Boxy

cl-netbox

Good afternoon @ByteCommander @Videonauth :)

@MadaraUchiha What is the difference between what you call boot menu and BIOS ? In UEFI settings you should find ubuntu. :)

Madara Uchiha

@cl-netbox There's the BIOS settings screen (which I access from DEL) and the boot menu (which I access from F11, which shows the list of possible bootable devices). It appears in the boot menu, but not in the BIOS settings.

Windows Boot Loader appears, but ubuntu does not.

Ubuntu is bootable, but I always have to hit F11 at boot, and select ubuntu manually from there, only then I get to GRUB

Normally, I would go into the BIOS and change the boot order so that ubuntu comes first, and select Ubuntu or Windows from GRUB, but I don't have the option in the boot order screen.

cl-netbox

4:25 PM

@MadaraUchiha good ... when you can see it by accessing from DEL it must be in the BIOS/UEFI settings too ... otherwise it would not be seen at all.

Madara Uchiha

@cl-netbox You'd think that 😒

But either I'm blind or it's not there.

cl-netbox

@MadaraUchiha no you're not blind ... many vendors hide it deeply. Did you set a "BIOS admin" password ? In some cases this is necessary to access all options.

Madara Uchiha

I didn't, it's a new PC

Please forgive the crappy phone screenshot

cl-netbox

@MadaraUchiha Please check evrything carefully again ... when it is a new PC, it definitely must have that option to change the boot order, because every system has it's own boot loader installed to the the EFI partition.

Madara Uchiha

@cl-netbox I have the boot order option

But ubuntu isn't on it.

Think I found it

cl-netbox

4:32 PM

@MadaraUchiha Boot from the install media and mount the efi partition ... then you see that there is an ubuntu folder with different loaders including shim (for secure boot) and grub.

Madara Uchiha

Yup, got it.

It's not in the boot order

It's in the UEFI Hard Disk Boot Order

lol

Thanks for being my rubber duck! 😀

cl-netbox

@MadaraUchiha what I said first ! :D

Madara Uchiha

Wasn't aware that there was a difference between the boot order of the entire BIOS and the boot order of that specific disk -_-

cl-netbox

@MadaraUchiha You're welcome ! :) I'm glad that I could help you. :)

Madara Uchiha

👍

Videonauth

4:52 PM

Linux! No gates and no bills ...

cl-netbox

@Videonauth Is there a special reason why you mention it ? :)

Videonauth

Bill Gates ? does the name ring a bell?

now read my above line again ;)

cl-netbox

@Videonauth hahaha ... yes, but why did you say it ? I can't find a related post here. :D

Videonauth

--> chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/41515837#41515837

cl-netbox

@Videonauth aaahhh ... okay, now I understand. :D

Videonauth

5:01 PM

:P

Ask Ubuntu Meta

7:24 PM

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Q: "Weighted" reputation gains

I have noticed that you can gain a lot of reputation if you are the first person to answer a quite simple question which concerns a large audience of mostly beginners. However on the other side a sophisticated answer to a difficult question is only of interest to the original poster and perhaps a...

discussion reputation up-votes

dessert

8:50 PM

@EliahKagan Thanks, that helps!

RobotHumans

10:52 PM

Added my thoughts to the mix on the weighted rep gains thing. Tried to provide thoughts on both sides of the equation.

dessert

> I don't downvote though.

… you mean in general? :O

RobotHumans

It has to be egregiously terrible for me to downvote. It's a mercy for new users that don't know how to write good answers, but are trying hard. You can't get them on the boat if you punish them for participating.

3

@dessert I'll CV in a heartbeat, and with three there's a system generated DV, so there is that... but mostly as a rule, I only upvote the best and leave everything else alone unless I see competing answers and I know the wrong answer is winning.

dessert

@RobotHumans I see DV and UV as a way of judging the actual post only and try hard to ignore the user behind it – every good post gets an UV, every meh or even bad post gets a DV. I don't vote only when I can't wrap my head around it.

RobotHumans

That's another way to do it. I don't disagree with your logic, but I only DV if it's terrible. DV-ing mediocre answers that are reasonable answers just doesn't seem like good practice to me, but it is one way to do it.

Also, it has nothing to do with the user, only the answer or question.

dessert

11:07 PM

Very interesting, thanks!

RobotHumans

Nah, thank you. It's just a conversation. I think people are still allowed to enjoy disagreeing while getting insight into the other one's perspective.

Sup @terdon - we haven't talked in a really long time

TheWanderer

11:31 PM

sigh

I really want to like Ubuntu

but it just has so many fundamental things that are broken

can't reboot, shut down or sleep, and USB mice are super unreliable

it also runs really hot

RobotHumans

Then why lesigh? I make the same argument about Kali, but some people love it.

TheWanderer

I mean over Windows

Windows is annoying, but at least I don't have to force-shutdown every time I want to move locations

RobotHumans

Mostly replugs work for USB mouse finicky-ness, but I've seen Windows not work with a replug on a USB hard-drive multiple times on different machines.

That said, I was testing LXQT and now have to switch to terminal 2 and relaunch compiz every time now because it bunged up my Xwin configs and tries to launch Kwin to get in to XFCE with compiz or something. Not worth sorting out since I only boot it once a day or less.

Not attributing to LXQT or Kwin though. It could be a holdover from when I tried out i3.

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