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Gah.

HD was the "good old days". HD always meant 1080p. Except when it didn't. Thanks, 1080i and 720p.

This new monitor looks pretty good. Not as tall as the other one, but it's wider.

@NathanOsman Or, you can buy our wireless headphones for $160!

True.

1:06 AM

okay, here's a perfect example of apple screwing their customers.

They ship their iPhones with USB-A to Lightning cords.

Their new Macs use USB-C.

My goal is to have tripple monitor one day. Maybe eventually that will happen

#YouMightBeAGeekIf you can remember the exact resolution of UHD without looking it up.

Tweeted by george_the_dev on March 22, 2017 at 1:07 AM

If you want to charge your iPhone off of your Mac, you need to buy a USB-C to USB-A adapter for $20 from Apple, or a USB-C to Lightning cable for $20.

@KazWolfe And how can I connect headphones at the same time? :P

I'm honestly surprised Apple USB-C doesn't have some DRM that only allows Apple computers to charge from Apple bricks over Apple cables.

1:08 AM

@KazWolfe They couldn't have called it USB-C if it was proprietary.

USB is governed by a consortium.

@NathanOsman no, but DRM for USB-C is in the spec.

@KazWolfe For data, yes.

@KazWolfe USB is controlled by USB foundation or something

No, for power, too, I think.

They make up the rules

1:09 AM

@KazWolfe WAT.

Because you need to transmit data for negotiation of high-power.

Okay, I must find this out.

So, in order to protect devices, there must be cryptographic validation through the data verifying everything is legit in order to deliver full power.

> "support for authenticating over either USB data bus or USB power delivery communications channels"

Wat wat wat wat wat.

Who let this stupidity into our beloved standard?

pcworld.com/article/3055443/hardware/…

@NathanOsman Just saying, Apple is in the USB consortium.

Why do you think USB-C looks very much like the Lightning cable?

1:11 AM

@KazWolfe Yes but so is Google.

(on that note, I would have much preferred that USB-C was the lightning cable, and lightning was USB-C. Because the Lightning cable is much more robust.

@NathanOsman nxp.com/products/identification-and-security/…

See? Like I said, I'm surprised Apple didn't lock down so that you can only use Apple Bricks and Apple Cables to charge Apple devices.

The ability to is very very much in spec.

Yikes.

I don't like where this is going.

hue

1:13 AM

OnePlus is actually already doing this with the OP3.

If you want to use their high-speed charging, you need to use an OP cable and brick.

I'm mad that Google isn't giving tablets Assistant

(which is very annoying. Stupid oneplus)

@KazWolfe Is it using DRM?

@KazWolfe How is it stupid?

@NathanOsman You only get dash charge if you buy a oneplus charger + cable.

no QC3.0

1:15 AM

@KazWolfe I know that.

But there's a good reason for that.

you're stuck with the stock charger if you want fast charging

That's because they've moved the charging circuitry into the charger itself.

@NathanOsman They moved the heat management to the charger itself.

@KazWolfe Anyway, what I'm saying is that the difference is physical.

And is enforced by DRM.

1:16 AM

So normal chargers can't perform dash charge.

but don't you not have QC3.0 compatibility?

Actually, they can deliver the higher current, iirc.

@KazWolfe It's also patented.

The system just disallows it.

@Zacharee1 Right. OP uses Dash, not QC3.

androidcentral.com/…

Dash is faster though.

1:17 AM

they could've built QC3.0 in though

@Zacharee1 But then you could buy cables from other people.

There's no money in that.

oh right

I guess they lose so much in the pricing

why does the G6 only have GG3 on the front, but GG5 on the back?

wat iz this

oh yeah, oneplus is getting ready to sell that pure-black phone.

Colette?

yep.

1:20 AM

how much are those going for?

same i think

really

they already had their limited-edition sale for the colette-branded ones iirc.

but there is a countdown on their site for something.

wow that website is laggy

@KazWolfe open the console on their website

i honestly don't like when companies do this partnering stuff.

@Zacharee1 yes?

1:22 AM

you don't see it?

the bug/careers thing?

yeah

as cool as that ripple thing is, it has a very obvious seam and it's laggy as hell

OnePlus isn't selling the 3 anymore?

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wtf

I have 5 tabs open

so blurry

1:28 AM

my eyes

#ConpanyPerks

conpany, huh?

Phone.

Stfu.

stfU

seriously.

we have two of these tubs with bacon.

cc @NathanOsman --^

1:31 AM

Drools...

someone left a one-star review on my mod installer app saying it hard bricked their V20

they posted the review from a V20

@Zacharee1 repalcement v20

@KazWolfe well they said plshelp at the end

wait, you can see what device leaves what review?

@KazWolfe You can see all kinds of stuff.

1:32 AM

yep

creepy stuff

huh. all i see right now is a plate full of indian food.

Still only three people using my app :(

@NathanOsman hue

@Zacharee1 Every time you say "hue," a v20 owner buys an iPhone.

5

their loss

1:33 AM

plot twist: it's just one guy who keeps buying iphones for no reason

@KazWolfe you mean like everyone who buys iPhones?

no. i mean they just have a collection for no reason.

they don't even use it, they're staying on their v20

@KazWolfe TechRax?

sounds like TechRax

maybe

but that review

I replied, checked back a few hours later, review was changed to 5 star

1:35 AM

What the... they named the device "elsa"?

@NathanOsman LG did.

@NathanOsman yup

Le facepalm.

@NathanOsman To tell you the truth I don't use wifi on my phone... only cell network for installing play store and android updates. I always use USB for charging and the same cable once or twice a month for transferring files. I can see NitroShare becoming popular for people that use wifi on their smartphones though :)

@NathanOsman Well it makes sense.

You can just let it [the old battery] go.

1:36 AM

@NathanOsman wasn't the Pixel like Narwhal or something?

or Marlin

although I think OnePlus One wins it with bacon

sailfish and marlin.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix NitroShare is faster than USB transfers in a number of cases though.

ONEPLUS BACON

@Zacharee1 But those are fish.

Google keeps the Finding Nemo theme.

1:36 AM

@NathanOsman even over my 802.11b?

@Zacharee1 Yup. It's faster than USB 1.0... I think...

lol

it beats 9600 baud

who uses USB 1.0 anymore?

USB 1.1 scrub

printers.

1:38 AM

Mice don't need high bandwidth.

Keyboards either.

"USB 1.0 specified a data rate of 1.5 Mbit/s"

What is wireless B again?

Journeyman Geek

lol

@NathanOsman 11Mb

There you go...

NitroShare wins again.

1:38 AM

you never said its matching USB standard

>:D

> Few USB devices made it to the market until USB 1.1 was released in August 1998, which introduced the speed of 12 Mbit/s (fast speed).

you said USB overall

802.11A!!!!!

@NathanOsman rip ^^^

1:39 AM

ironically a lot of older laptops did 5ghz before it was cool.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman Perhaps, but I just use Nautilus to browse the phone... find the directory and paste the stuff... getting up to configure the phone to turn on wifi would eat up the time saved. Besides phone is plugged in 12 hours a night and I don't really care how long paste in the background takes.... ie 89 seconds instead of 66 seconds is a mute point. But like I said people who do use WiFi will love NitroShare.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Ah, good point. Yeah, it wouldn't benefit your case much.

@Zacharee1 RIP = really incredible product?

> Intel's Thunderbolt 3 controller (codenamed Alpine Ridge) doubles the bandwidth to 40 Gbit/s (5 GB/s),

get rekt, nitroshare

@KazWolfe A speed achieved by no real-world device ever.

@KazWolfe Wait until Wireless AC's successor comes out.

> The new 802.11ad standard offers 7 Gbps of throughput