I have searched high and low. No method.

And even if there was, sync-ing it with the websocket code would be a nightmare.

@Serg Heh :) Seen and comprehensively answered.

let me look

or just open inspector lol

I did.

There is no method.

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/pingable/201

It finally came! Only took them a year and half xD

\o/

@Seth Yay!

@KazWolfe That isn't the same data as in the page.

On the page, you get data like this:

{
    id: 1345,
    name: ("Nathan Osman"),
    email_hash: ("11e74c6cb64be4d24fdee076ddb374b0"),
    reputation: 102077,
    last_post: 1489520362,
    is_moderator: true,
    is_owner: true
}

@NathanOsman That data comes from https://chat.stackexchange.com/user/info (POST)

Yes, but it isn't vectorized.

You must call that once for each user.

no you don't.

Wat.

you can pass in a list.

Wait, what, how?

Begins head-smacking-on-desk procedure...

ids takes a list

curl -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" -d 'roomId=201&ids=1345%2C 97389' "https://chat.stackexchange.com/user/info"

I'm sure I tried that and it didn't work.

@terdon seen and comprehensively upgoated

Resumes head-smacking-on-desk procedure...

I just tried it.

worked ok for me

You're not helping my head.

:P

@Serg Thanks. I channeled my inner Eliah there a bit.

but you're right, i'm pretty sure there's no direct way to actually pull a list of users currently in the room.

I thought there was, though. I seem to recall using it in WolfBot-SE once or twice...

Do you guys think it would be better if I left AU for a while ?

@terdon You mean Eliah?

It looks like CE6 uses a scraper too, @NathanOsman.

@NathanOsman Dammit! I keep doing that!

@Serg For us? No. For you? Only you can tell.

@KazWolfe I wonder if there's a good reason.

@NathanOsman because there's no method for currently-present users?

AHA!

I keep saying that I need to get my life in order but it always ends up being just plans that never get to the starting phase at least

I literally discovered that as you were writing your last message.

And THAT'S why I needed to parse the page.

@KazWolfe thank you, you have been most helpful.

@DougSmythies Yes I saw that Jarno guy posting on my Q&A. It actually sparked me to learn up on your server-edition and this is what I've got so far:

There is a way to get users (through the POST), but there is no way to get the current users except through scraping for no good reason.

^^ The default colors are weird but hey its server edition :p

probably because a chat API is "low priority"

@WinEunuuchs2Unix nice, youre improving in scripting

My Go package is quickly fixing that.

@Serg Thank you kindly Serg. Funny thing is when I was googling dialog function you and Byte were in the answers :p

Back in 2015 I think it was...

@NathanOsman wolfbot is already "complete" lol

plus your go package is still going to have the inefficiencies related to using a scraper.

Inefficiencies?

Scraping is slow.

It's a package - the scraping function is provided to the app using the function.

It doesn't have to call it.

Besides, Go is comparable to C in speed.

So, let's be honest, it's not really that slow.

It's slow vs API is what he means

you have to pull the entire page

It's just a couple KB of HTML...

parsing.

How is that different from an HTTP request to an API?

API responses need to be parsed too.

Not data-scraped and parsed.

API responses would already be designed in such a way that machines can easily read them.

Both cause an HTTP request. Both result in data that needs to be "parsed".

@KazWolfe parsing is a silly distinction.

still, scraping and pulling usable data out of the garbage that is HTML is a lot harder and more inefficient than requesting from an API.

@KazWolfe how does WolfBot get the list of current users in the room?

@NathanOsman same way everyone else does, a scraper.

:P

So don't throw stones at my package :P

I wasn't throwing stones at the package.

I was throwing stones at SE for not implementing an API.

Throws a stone as well...

on an unrelated note...

Mar 14 16:31:24 somehost.com postfix/smtpd[9847]: warning: hostname vps863.hidehost.net does not resolve to address 91.200.12.140: Name or service not known
Mar 14 16:31:24 somehost.com postfix/smtpd[9847]: connect from unknown[91.200.12.140]
Mar 14 16:31:25 somehost.com postfix/smtpd[9847]: lost connection after AUTH from unknown[91.200.12.140]
Mar 14 16:31:25 somehost.com postfix/smtpd[9847]: disconnect from unknown[91.200.12.140] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 commands=1/2

git gud, haxxorz

I have nearly endless logs on my mailserver full of that.

guh

why doesn't RemoteViews support tinting?

sandwich thicker than my grip . . .gotta chanel my inner hamster

i just banned a whole ISP from my server. I feel evil :D

@Serg oh man, now I'm starving for a sandwich..

but I'm trying to avoid wheat and processed soy D:

@Seth sowwy :3 i can

@Seth soydo make me a sandwich?

share half

Pancakes for supper.

\o/

@terdon lol

Ask Ubuntu General Lunchroom

sudo apt lunch

In my case, it's more like:

at now + 6 hours < coffee

@KazWolfe unmet dependency: fork

oh, cool. i'm getting hammered on port 23.

i wonder why.

Telnet is supposed to be insecure, isn't it?

whats on 23 , telnet ?

i forgot

yeah, telnet.

Maybe it thinks it's an insecured router?

exactly why i'm surprised people are trying to connect to it.

One word: IoT.

that's three

HAHAHA

[UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=[redacted] SRC=89.248.172.16 DST=[redacted] LEN=70 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=123 ID=45725 PROTO=UDP SPT=40266 DPT=1604 LEN=50

i saw that

people are checking if I have a RAT on my box.

that's kind lol

they're also checking for another RAT, and NTP?

What secvulns exist in NTP?

all teh vulnz

clearly it is automated attack. A human attacker would at least scan the open ports

also poking dns

@WinEunuuchs2Unix : That looks petty cool.

Although。。。no i didnt make sense there

ooo, nice question

@Serg if a human attacker would scan my box, their IP would get nuked.