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Serg

5:12 PM

@Zanna can you do grep 'text/plain' /usr/share/applications/defaults.list and let me know what it says for you ?

Zanna

text/plain=gedit.desktop

@Serg ^

(Ubuntu MATE 16.10)

Serg

Mhmmm, and does it open any plain text file in gedit ?

or does MATE have its own default editor ?

Zanna

5:25 PM

sorry

just replying to a comment

it has its own default editor, pluma

I don't think gedit is intstalled, it's not installed by default...

I have installed it to test stuff out for AU questions in the past

that's a bit weird isn't it?! why is it in the defaults list if it's not even installed?

$ apt policy gedit
gedit:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.22.0-1ubuntu1

Serg

Good question

It also answers another one I had: one cannot rely on the defaults.list for determining the application for particular mimetype

Zanna

I wonder if I install gedit, then try to open a text file, it will open in gedit instead of pluma?

CaffeineAddiction

I was attempting to follow the answer here: askubuntu.com/questions/87241/…

Zanna

yeah I think the defaults list is ignored in many situations

CaffeineAddiction

however, when I switch to a new console durring server install I am given the error "mkfs.btrfs not found" in the busy box shell

can I install it from the busybox shell?

cl-netbox

5:30 PM

Hello :)

Serg

@CaffeineAddiction I don't think so. busybox doesn't seem to have apt or apt-get in the list of its commands

Currently defined functions:
	[, [[, acpid, adjtimex, ar, arp, arping,
	ash, awk, basename, blockdev, brctl,
	bunzip2, bzcat, bzip2, cal, cat, chgrp,
	chmod, chown, chpasswd, chroot, chvt,

First couple lines of busybox --help

although there is dpkg command, so you could try getting .deb package and install it that way

CaffeineAddiction

@Serg that might work

wonder if it has wget ...

this could be interesting

Serg

It does have wget

CaffeineAddiction

would a .deb work in busybox?

Thomas Ward

probably not

because BusyBox doesn't operate in the .deb universe.

most of its functions are compiled in, but maybe?

Serg

5:35 PM

$ busybox --help | grep dpkg
	dnsdomainname, dos2unix, dpkg, dpkg-deb,

Thomas Ward

well then maybe

Serg

Probably ?

CaffeineAddiction

ok, so where would i find a .deb for btrfs? ... im a nub, im use to depending on apt-get

cl-netbox

Hey @Serg @ThomasWard Everything alright ? :)

Serg

@CaffeineAddiction that . . . is probably a question for google, since I don't deal with btrfs :)

CaffeineAddiction

5:37 PM

yah, got google up already

@Serg @ThomasWard ty

Thomas Ward

@cl-netbox Chaos and Darkness are already prevalent, my attention span is down, i'm hungry as heck...

overall, not bad.

cl-netbox

@Zanna Thank you very much ... sorry for the late reply ... had no internet access yesterday (nearly the whole day) ... :)

@ThomasWard hahaha ... go and get yourself a (proper and HEALTHY) pizza ! :D

Serg

Well, poop ! My MATE VM doesn't start

Zanna

@cl-netbox no worries, I never thought about it :)

Thomas Ward

@cl-netbox bah no such thing as healthy pizza

Serg

5:41 PM

Thomas Ward

I'mma go binge-eat food soon :P

cl-netbox

@ThomasWard remember the poisoned stomach you had lately ? :D

@Zanna :)

Zanna

@CaffeineAddiction btrfs is a filesystem... I don't think you can "install" it. The question is, why doesn't your mkfs have that option)

Thomas Ward

@cl-netbox yeah it was pizza that did it.

but i'm not after pizza today

i'm after SOUP

and SALAD

and SEAFOOD

(campus actually has half-decent salmon cakes)

cl-netbox

Bon apetite @ThomasWard ! :)

Zanna

5:44 PM

@CaffeineAddiction I also have no mkfs.btrfs

CaffeineAddiction

@Zanna well thats kinda what I am wondering ... because ubuntu 16 Desktop has it ... the Server Install has the capability of formating a drive to btrfs ... but the installer doesnt seem to have the tools required to setup a btrfs raid

Thomas Ward

@Zanna you have to install the btrfs packages and the utils

Zanna

that's annoying

Serg

@Zanna filesystems can be installed, but what I think @CaffeineAddiction really needs is the mount.btrfs executable . . .so there are particular packages for it

$ ls /sbin/mount*
/sbin/mountall*          /sbin/mount.fuse*
/sbin/mount.aufs*        /sbin/mount.lowntfs-3g@
/sbin/mount.exfat@       /sbin/mount.ntfs@
/sbin/mount.exfat-fuse*  /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g@

Zanna

oh...

cl-netbox

5:45 PM

@Zanna why ? as easy as : sudo apt install btrfs-progs :)

Zanna

@cl-netbox not for me, for Caffeine :)

they are in busybox shell

cl-netbox

@Zanna ah okay ... tell him then ... :)

Zanna

they don't have apt

my "that's annoying" was sympathising

CaffeineAddiction

@cl-netbox its busybox shell for the ubuntu installer

Zanna

anyway I will stfu :)

cl-netbox

5:47 PM

@CaffeineAddiction hmmm :(

CaffeineAddiction

is it possible to setup the server in a 10gb ext4 partition and them clone it to the btrfs raid and reconfig grub?

where would I even start with that

Jacob Vlijm

Adding shortcuts is quite generic, but OP wants it explained specifically to 16.10. askubuntu.com/q/884435/72216

Serg

@JacobVlijm OP said file manager , not launcher

Jacob Vlijm

Wait...

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm Hi Jacob ! :) Good evening ! :)

Same to you (once again) @Serg ! :)

Serg

5:59 PM

@cl-netbox greetings !

Jacob Vlijm

Ouch, @Serg obviously too tired to read... Hi @cl-netbox!

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm or @Serg is too busy ... writing new hacking-indicators maybe ? :D

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg thanks for preventing shame and scandal in the family... @cl-netbox no, have been teaching 8 hours today :)

Serg

@cl-netbox Nah, I'm too busy refining the old ones. Actually wanted to test something on MATE VM but something is broken there

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm I meant @Serg with the indicators ... not you :D

Jacob Vlijm

6:02 PM

@Serg sorry you didn't get the full 100. Especially since OP refused to communicate in any language.

cl-netbox

@Serg Don't you have a backup image of the vdisk ? :)

Serg

@JacobVlijm Eh, it was obvious after couple days that OP abandoned the question, so it's no surprise. What do you teach , if I may ask ?

@cl-netbox nope. I'll probably just reinstall it eventually. Not a big deal.

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg guitar, classical guitar.

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm wow ! :)

Serg

That's pretty cool

cl-netbox

6:05 PM

only pretty ? :D

Zanna

extremely cool!

cl-netbox

yes - that ! ^^^

Jacob Vlijm

Very nice job. I love it. All young professionals between 18 and 28

Great people

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm music is a very positive thing generally ... creates / makes peace between people :)

Jacob Vlijm

...and extremely good for your brain, really

Serg

6:09 PM

I wanted to learn playing drums for some time. Unfortunately have neither time nor money for that

cl-netbox

@Serg hard to learn ... you'll need to feel it and have it (the rhythm) in your blood :)

Jacob Vlijm

Sitting in the cantine next to a table with four percussionists is... special. @cl-netbox timing is the first priority in all music.

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm yes it is ... :)

Thomas Ward

6:25 PM

Good Chaos to you once again, my friends.

Rinzwind

Chaos; Head is a good anime series if you like chaos :=)

Serg

And Good Darkness to you as well @ThomasWard

cl-netbox

@ThomasWard Welcome back dark evil magic ! :D

Rinzy ! :)

Rinzwind

all hail Chaos!

Boxy!

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel Are you hiding behind the darkness and chaos (@ThomasWard) ? :D Hello to you ... I've seen you there ! :D :D :D

Thomas Ward

6:28 PM

you guys are literally giving me meme material to add to the meta post lol

Jacob Vlijm

Heyhey(hey)

Hizqeel

6:45 PM

@cl-netbox darkness will fall again....

@cl-netbox Hi, How are you doing

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel hahaha ... :D

@Hizqeel Fine ... again ... had no internet access for about 10 hours yesterday ... now it's working again ... :)

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox ohh , So what was the problem?

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel What about you ? I read that fights in Pakistan are going on ...

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox I am Good... Fights? what fights?

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel network infrastructure of ISP

Hizqeel

6:48 PM

@cl-netbox ahh.. I see

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel IS terror attacks -> bbc.com/news/world-asia-39001703

Serg

Can I just please nope out of all the calculus stuff ?

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox hahah Their is no ISIS In Pakistan .. They are just supporting the banned outfits here for their purpose and using them for their purpose and International Media Labeling them as ISIS... Any how There are several Attacks in last 5 days and The situation is very critical

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel that's what I meant ... for me it is most important that you are out of danger ... I hope that things calm down very soon

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox I pray my Country should be out of danger and that of imposed war

cl-netbox

6:55 PM

@Hizqeel yes

Well, I have to go now - see you tomorrow, goodbye ... sudo poweroff ! :)

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox take care :)

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel same to you : take care my friend ! :)

Serg

7:28 PM

Object oriented programming can drive me nuts sometimes

Jacob Vlijm

Being nuts can drive you to object oriented programming sometimes

Serg

Makes sense . . .I should try that sometimes

Byte Commander

7:47 PM

Interesting quote...

(from kongregate.com/games/VasantJ/medieval-cop)

Seth

kinda hard to smile when you're dead.

4

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman GOOD CHAOS TO THEE!

Jacob Vlijm

^ sharp @Seth

Nathan Osman

@ThomasWard AND TO THEE O MORTAL ENEMY OF THE SOUL

Byte Commander

@Seth Depends... it's either hard to start or hard to stop...

Thomas Ward

7:51 PM

heh

Nathan Osman

Also, good afternoon.

:P

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman I was told to put Chaos and Darkness on the meme board... it's there now heh.

Serg

Hullo o/

CaffeineAddiction

@ByteCommander hard to smile when your dead

Nathan Osman

3 mins ago, by Seth

kinda hard to smile when you're dead.

*cough* erm *cough*

Serg

7:52 PM

It's hard to dead when you smile . . oh, wait, that doesn't work

Jacob Vlijm

^ sharp too

Thomas Ward

if you're dead your soul has already been absorbed into the Chaotic Darkness and decompiled into pure energy which fuels said Darkness. Therefore you can't do anything at all. Not even after you're dead.

Smile

Aaaaaaanyway...

@NathanOsman oops

7:55 PM

:D

Jacob Vlijm

@CaffeineAddiction spoo

CaffeineAddiction

@JacobVlijm there is no spoo(n)

Jacob Vlijm

(n)oops...

Serg

God, I've almost forgotten how much I hate all the confusing Java constructs and all the public static nonsense . . .

This paradigm needs to die and as soon as possible. Just out with it

Thomas Ward

python > c++ > c > java

Serg

8:01 PM

also that ^

Jacob Vlijm

Yeah, I once started with Java, my hair turned green from boredom

Zanna

hmmm... I just found this askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/679514 and I think the edit should obviously be rejected, but the question should be reopened and edit-suggester notified of the reopening, so they can post an answer

I think they need to improve the answer though

I can't figure out how to do this so that they will definitely see the message

I was going to put it in the reject message

but I don't think people see those unless they chase up their suggestions

Seth

@Zanna I can send a chat message straight to their inbox.

They're going to have to be more specific for that answer to fly though, I think.

Zanna

yes I thought ah a mod can tell them :) but yes I agree the answer is not upvoteable

perhaps the question is reopenable in any case, whether this person can answer it or not :/

Jacob Vlijm

@Zanna I think the edit should be rejected anyway...

Zanna

8:06 PM

@JacobVlijm yes indeed, of course :)

but I think that shouldn't be the end of it, that's why I'm here before rejecting

because I want to reject and edit

Jacob Vlijm

@Zanna yeah, sorry, I just rejected in reflex.

Zanna

but that wouldn't let me send a reject message

Jacob Vlijm

But we can ping him anyway?

Seth

@Zanna if you create a room, write out whatever you want, and I'll send him a notification.

Zanna

ok :)

I made a room chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/53829/mozilla-error

I will write here

thank you @Seth!

I think I will just end up posting a comment on their behalf on the question (which looks like it should stay closed) with the link to the Mozilla help page, but we'll see what they say...

Zanna

8:27 PM

hmm I don't really know what I should be doing *shrug* but I wrote some stuff and hopefully they won't be too annoyed about the rejection

Seth

ready for the ping then?

Zanna

oh yeah

:)

Seth

okay!

Zanna

awesome, thanks a lot!

Seth

no prob.

I'm still looking at the question. Not ready to pull the reopen trigger yet, but not necessarily against it either.

Zanna

8:32 PM

yeah I feel the same

Thomas Ward

@Seth i think you forgot to give access to that person?

(if they're low-rep)

Seth

@ThomasWard they have 21 rep

Thomas Ward

ah OK

Zanna

just enough

Seth

I'll add them just in case though. One downvote would drop them too low.

Zanna

8:33 PM

:)

Thomas Ward

exactly my reason for poking :P

Seth

strange, it's not working

Thomas Ward

@Seth user profile link?

Zanna

hmm I think I can do that as owner

Thomas Ward

please

Seth

8:34 PM

oh there we go.

Thomas Ward

@Zanna we as mods have god :P

Seth

@Zanna last time I checked only mods could do that, which is something I disagree with, but nothing has changed afaik.

Zanna

haha no disrespect ;) was just interested in trying to figure it out

Thomas Ward

@Seth he's got 300+ SE-wide not sure there's a rep issue there :P

Seth

@ThomasWard oh, fair point. I forgot about that haha.

Thomas Ward

8:36 PM

since I didn't see the user profile :P

now i have.

Zanna

I get an option to add users in the room menu

Thomas Ward

laughs evilly

Zanna

"control access"

Thomas Ward

@Zanna try and add the 1 rep user AquariusOne to write access

see what it says

Zanna

it says though, that I can only add people who have already visited chat

ah it says they must have 20 rep to talk

when I try it

Thomas Ward

8:39 PM

yep

mods only can add low-rep

AquariusOne is my totally unpriv'd sockpuppet I use for Smokey test runs sometimes

mods only can add <20rep

and CMs, of course.

Seth

@ThomasWard seems like it could be a nice 20-30-40k privilege to me though.

Thomas Ward

@Seth well, if you grant that access on one site how do you not also replicate that across site if you have enough rep courtesy of association bonuses

Zanna

zackly, I'm totally demotivated to even visit the site now there aren't any more fun toys I can win ;)

Thomas Ward

I think the logistics would be hard to implement.

but that's not my job

@Seth propose it on meta.se?

Seth

@Zanna I think you get a t-shirt at 100k!

Zanna

8:41 PM

omg!!!

Seth

@ThomasWard pretty sure it's already been done. in the meta Q I linked earlier and in the proposed 30k rep Q they had a while back.

Thomas Ward

@Seth mods are gods and get all the cool swag.

:P

Zanna

*searches for easy questions*

Zacharee1

Sublime Text is sublime

Seth

@ThomasWard you can get a lot of swag by winning contests, but yes, it's easier if you're a mod.

Thomas Ward

8:42 PM

@Seth godly mods are godly.

Zanna

that's a lie, I'm still reviewing... where did the day go...?

Thomas Ward

>:D

@Zanna I ate it.

Seth

@ThomasWard I don't consider myself godly :P

Thomas Ward

I have absorbed so many souls of the condemned posts and spam users, that I can now eat and consume time.

Zanna

it is enough to be modly I think

@ThomasWard I wondered wth was going on

Seth

8:43 PM

Thomas Ward

@Seth ah, you're right, that's The Great Shog :P

Zacharee1

@Seth hue

Zanna

fwiw, this seems to be completely off-topic askubuntu.com/questions/884494/…

it's already closed but shrug

haha and we don't want to send them to U&L XD

Seth

someone needs to write me a hue to butt script.

Thomas Ward

@Seth I've got a script that I turned off that autosuspends on 'hue' and only that being posted. But it's off for good reason. It's also untested.

Seth

8:46 PM

@ThomasWard enables - suspends everyone in the room

Thomas Ward

enables, suspends everyone in the room, freezes the room, then deletes the room after moving everything to Trashcan, then subsequently gets banned by The Great Ones

Zanna

*makes a cup of tea calmly*

Seth

Zanna nerves ftw :D

We should create stash.org, an SE chat version of bash.org.

Zanna

hehehe

this seems not off-topic to me askubuntu.com/review/close/679430

Seth

huh. Michael is a Server Fault mod.

Zanna

8:53 PM

hmmm

I'll skip then

Seth

I'll leave a comment to Michael asking what he's seeing.

And I'll leave open until then. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Zanna

yeah :)

Serg

yaaaaaawn Looks like I missed some sort of humor here . . .

Thomas Ward

@Serg Nope. Just Chaos.

Serg

@ThomasWard aww, and no Darkness ? I'm disappointed

Seth

8:58 PM

having devices that don't support 5GHz is such a pain. So much 2.4GHz pollution here.

Jacob Vlijm

What did you miss?

Zanna

took me 20 hours to review the CVs today haha askubuntu.com/review/close/history?userId=527764 (I don't think mere mortals can see this link though)

Jacob Vlijm

Ha, that's fun, then I see al the ones I reviewed :)

Zanna

review histories are my favourite backstage thing after the stats page

maybe I like them even more...

Jacob Vlijm

Well, I can anyway of course, but never saw it in this layout...

Zanna

9:08 PM

how do you normally look at them?

Jacob Vlijm

Well, just via my profile

Zanna

oh yeah... I think the queue layout is a lot easier to read :)

Jacob Vlijm

Definitely!

Zanna

lol just read the new meme, I am chuckling and my flatmate is feeling secure in her conviction that I am insane

"Darkness shall prevail" hahahaha

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CaffeineAddiction

9:35 PM

I seem to have hit a hard limit on the number of forks I can do ... I googled this and it says something about changing a value in /etc/sysctl.conf but that file just has a ton of comments ... I also checked /etc/sysctl.d/ but am not sure which file in there to change

Thomas Ward

@Serg Darkness is rebuilding :P

Aaron Hall

@ThomasWard thanks for trying to help me earlier BTW

Serg

gcc -o Darkness darkness.c ?

Thomas Ward

@AaronHall You're welcome, I never heard back sorry.;

we're all busy with sprints and stuff too, in the dev world.

Jacob Vlijm

10:32 PM

Does anyone understand what is going on here? askubuntu.com/questions/884526/… No clue what he is trying to do

Seth

@JacobVlijm something about apps always launching on the wrong monitor.

Jacob Vlijm

@Seth Ah, really? The only thing I could figure out was "thx for any help" :)

Zanna

which I just removed

Jacob Vlijm

@Zanna haha, now what do I do...

Ah, thanks, it's kind of understandable now. I know it's a dupe, but where is the existing one...

Zanna

haha vtc? I can't understand it myself but I am reluctant to VTC as I just don't know about this topic - maybe someone who does can make head or tail or arm or leg of it

ah!

Jacob Vlijm

10:40 PM

Not sure if I can find it before my holiday is over...

Zanna

haha

I'm struggling with how the answer to "how to uninstall nvidia drivers" can be a link to "install and configure nvidia driver" askubuntu.com/questions/538220/…

Jacob Vlijm

Wait, it's too bad. Just when you start thinking you understand, it's going bananas. I will leave him a comment for clarification and keep an eye on it...

@Zanna that's ... weird!

Zanna

@JacobVlijm excellent

Seth

@Seth The direct use of root, the Red Hat style prompt, and the Red Hat style service network restart. It would be networking on Ubuntu, if you restarted networking that way. — Michael Hampton 3 mins ago

hm, @Zanna

prompt and root don't mean much IMO but the restart command is interesting.

Zanna

ah! I see

yes indeed looks not Ubuntu

I was sleeping

Jacob Vlijm

11:00 PM

Hahaaaaa, could close it in a single action. Drunk with power. askubuntu.com/q/884516/72216

Zanna

lol

Seth

you know it's always funny how you answer one question and you're like "that was kinda cool. I learned something answering this and I think it's a cool answer" and it gets like 1 vote, maybe the OP accepts it. And you're like "ok, I solved his problem. cool". Then you answer a super simple, boring question and it goes HQN and you get like 11 votes -.-

I understand why that happens, but it's still amusing.

Zanna

totally

that answer I wrote last week that is now on 60 upvotes or something, I almost didn't bother to write

Seth

man, I only put out 12 answers over the last year. That's just sad :(

Jacob Vlijm

Practically always, the voting is a surprise to me. Both ways @Seth

Zanna

11:05 PM

I almost voted to close the question instead

and I almost deleted my answer when I saw someone else had answered just before I posted mine

Seth

haha. oh the ways of the answer.

Jacob Vlijm

WOW, 60?

Zanna

@Seth you are doing other super awesome stuff to make the site great :)

Jacob Vlijm

^

Zanna

63. An even more trivial one I did on U&L got 83 before the question got closed as (haha!) a duplicate of a question closed as no repro... I am still laughing about that. How can it be no repro and have a duplicate? XD

I almost deleted that answer as well

since someone got there first

but I thought hmm no, mine is slightly different, there is something in the other answer I don't quite agree with

I will leave it

and wth, it went crazy

Jacob Vlijm

11:12 PM

I'd like to understand. Not to use it I mean, but simply to understand.

But then again, who cares :)

My phone is getting heavier by the minute. I think I need to sleep... See you later!

Zanna

goodnight!

same for me I think

Aaron Hall

@ThomasWard you don't owe me any apologies - I get what I pay for. My question at this point is do I really need secure boot? What do I get for it? protection from rootkits?

Mark Yisri

11:43 PM

I'd really like some help on this

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Q: Xubuntu 16.04 suspending randomly

I recently installed Xubuntu 16.04 on my system, alongside Windows 7. The installation/live USB worked fine without any problems. However, my system erratically suspends without warning. No data is lost, but suspending approximately every 2 minutes is very annoying. How do I fix this? Here is ...

Aaron Hall

11:54 PM

does it still happen if you don't boot into the desktop?

just tty1 or something like that?

(I used to use Lubuntu a lot, but never Xubuntu...)

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