Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:02 AM

i need more coffee

@NathanOsman lol

Due to college I can safely say do not spill half a bottle on it, it will damage it. – DasBeasto 9 hours ago

edwinksl

that is such a stupid question

looks like karmaw*****g

or repw*****g in this case

Kaz Wolfe

FLAGGED!!!11!!1!!1!!!!one!!

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Q: It’s time to retire the term “rep-whore”

Going forward, “rep-whore” (and its derivatives) will be treated like any other term that’s inconsistent with the community’s “be nice” policy: it will be removed. It’s totally okay if you’ve used it in the past. Nobody’s judging the many users who’ve used it. And users will NOT start being s...

Nathan Osman

RED ALERT. RED ALERT.

Byte Commander

Ask Ubuntu Discord Server 2.0

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Nathan Osman

12:04 AM

Wat.

Kaz Wolfe

even though i'm probably the biggest repw***e to exist.

Nathan Osman

There.

I fixed all mentions.

Kaz Wolfe

really? even self-depreciation?

Nathan Osman

:D

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman srsly

Kaz Wolfe

12:06 AM

i can't even insult myself in this world anymore?

This is. GARBAGE.

Nathan Osman

I saved you from the villainous mob sure to descend upon you two.

@Zacharee1 Hey, I don't mind it so much as the policy does.

Zacharee1

sigh

Nathan Osman

Just doing my job. Tips hat.

:D

I'm not sure if I did that more for the policy's sake or because typing "*" is fun. Definitely the former. Maybe.

Kaz Wolfe

policy was written by a bunch of SJWs that think they have the right to control language and people just because they're the people in charge.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman definitely probably maybe possibly kinda not

Nathan Osman

12:08 AM

@KazWolfe True or not, is it really worth upsetting whoever-it-is-that-gets-upset over something so easy to avoid?

Whoever-the-heck-they-are?

:P

Kaz Wolfe

if people get upset because i hate myself, they should get the hell out of my business.

edwinksl

@KazWolfe woah okay i should read that

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Look. I'm on your side here. I think it goes too far as well. But policy is policy.

Kaz Wolfe

well, back to complaining and insulting other peoples' life work.

Byte Commander

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/34665253#34665253 may I have star please?

Not on that one... >.<

Kaz Wolfe

12:12 AM

refuses to click on the link

Edity

here you go

@ByteCommander what happened to 1.0??

Byte Commander

Zach happened.

Zacharee1

Kaz happened.

Kaz Wolfe

yes, blame the psychopath.

Zacharee1

psychopaths can realize when they're being destructive, even if not emotionally

Edity

12:15 AM

no.. seriously.

did it get greifed?

Kaz Wolfe

nope.

Zacharee1

I deleted it because it wasn't up to Kaz's standards.

Kaz Wolfe

i liked to, like i always do, complain about things. namely, how permissions were set up.

Zacharee1

and he made that well known

Edity

UNLISTED

Kaz Wolfe

12:16 AM

(memes -- it pretty much became a meme on the server)

Edity

(dank memes.)

Kaz Wolfe

and i've been preemptively banned because i'm sure i'll find something to complain about, like i always do. Which might turn into a meme. Again.

Edity

anyone online in discord chat???

Zacharee1

yes

Edity

signing up

Kaz Wolfe

12:21 AM

You know, Zach, if you don't like me being around, just say the word and I'm gone.

I don't like... intruding.

Edity

GG

edwinksl

@Edity why are you offline in the discord

Zacharee1

he's unregistered I think

Thomas Ward

so someone decided to be rude to my misfortune on this new discord

Zacharee1

...

Thomas Ward

12:28 AM

so yeah my misfortune. grandpa died today.

so i'm sorta depressedish

WinEunuuchs2Unix

throws snowball at Thomas

Thomas Ward

responds with force, and watches the evil come down from orbit

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ThomasWard So sorry to hear that. How old was he?

Thomas Ward

old

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Guys at work said your state got hit by snow... hence snowfight

Thomas Ward

12:30 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix but you declared a war on me

it's only fair I respond in kind. watches the massive ball of ice falling on @WinEunuuchs2Unix

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ThomasWard Only because you had lots of snow to fight back with... wouldn't pick on a desert country :p

Thomas Ward

@WinEunuuchs2Unix late 80s, early 90s, I think, I forget the exact age

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It's been snowing all day... I think @NathanOsman jynxed me

@ThomasWard I hope it wasn't a surprise passing... those are the worst I think.

Thomas Ward

@WinEunuuchs2Unix no, expected it for some time

WinEunuuchs2Unix

that makes it easier to deal with I think.

Thomas Ward

12:32 AM

though

it's only a rumor right now,

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Nathan's not replying he must be still shovelling snow in Calgary :p

Thomas Ward

what i'm hearing is fourth-hand through relatives, my mom and dad are the primary source of truth

so blah

i'm prepping either way

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You're a bright lad, you'll get it all figured out.

IanC

"Oh, I need flex to compile this library, let's download it from GitHub and compile from source! :D"

$ make
...
WARNING: 'flex' is missing on your system.
...

so flex needs flex to be compiled? :)

Thomas Ward

CYCLICAL BUILD REQS

sounds to me like it's a case like gcc/g++ etc.

where it needs bootstrapped

Nathan Osman

12:39 AM

Even Go can suffer from this.

Go 1.5 requires Go 1.4 to compile.

(Well, it can also be compiled by GCC, but...)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Aww the joys of being on the bleeding-edge of technology :)

On the bright side when your laptop is overheating, the fan exhaust port makes a nice bare foot warmer in the middle of an Edmonton winter :)

Byte Commander

@WinEunuuchs2Unix used that already, but for hands, not feet.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

(note: 17" laptops are on the coffee table not on your lap)

Byte Commander

Had a script to heat it up to a specific temperature.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ByteCommander At work run 3d graphics benchmarking tests on cell phone as a hand warmer.

Well I should be taking the laptop apart to look for lint blocking exhaust port but got into chat and fixing answers and well you know... Hey at least I put the vacuum cleaner nozzle on the exhaust port!

IanC

12:45 AM

@ThomasWard @NathanOsman you guys know what is the flex ubuntu repo name? I don't need the latest version, just need it to build libpcap from source to see if the issue I'm posting about on SO is actually a bug

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It seems to have worked a bit because it's stayed under 80 and Intel Powerclamp hasn't kicked in yet (it starts at 85C)

IanC

I found a bug report that looks a lot like what I experienced, and they say the MASTER from GitHub solved it

Nathan Osman

@IanC the name of the package for building apps that link against flex?

libfl-dev

At least, that's the package that provides /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfl.so

WinEunuuchs2Unix

packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/flex

IanC

@NathanOsman I'm not sure what flex is, what does it do? I'll try install this library to see if that's what the ./configure is asking for

Nathan Osman

12:49 AM

Flex is a tool for generating pattern matching functions for text.

Zacharee1

@Zanna, @ByteCommander you're on the SE blog! stackoverflow.blog/2017/01/say-farewell-to-winter-bash-2016/…

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Nathan Osman

Compilers often use Flex for their lexing routines.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

FLEX=A fast lexical analyzer generator

IanC

@NathanOsman you mean like regex and so?

Nathan Osman

@IanC Like that, yes. But not with regexp.

Zacharee1

12:51 AM

@Zacharee1 and @ByteCommander!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Zach you just pinged yourself :p

Zacharee1

yes

WinEunuuchs2Unix

did it make your livingroom shake from the subwoofer? :p

Zacharee1

I have no subwoofer

WinEunuuchs2Unix

was there a sound?

Zacharee1

12:53 AM

no

muted

@NathanOsman can you edit @ByteCommander into that message too?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

oh well I have an internet news show on my TV... no muting here

Zacharee1

but I am in Windows 7 again

I missed it more than I thought

traitor!

I've been using 10

Bash for Windows?

12:54 AM

@NathanOsman thanks

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Huh?

Seth

too late

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe you owe me a dollar still

Nathan Osman

Lol.

Zacharee1

oop

@Seth thanks :p

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:55 AM

Better buy all the mods coffee anyway

IanC

@NathanOsman man, I'm so stupid.. sudo apt-get install flex

what the hell -.-

IanC

1:12 AM

alright, I guess I'm answering my own question, seems like it was indeed a bug

TheXed

So the good news is I am not blind...

bad news is I have astigmatism in my right eye...

So I have to get glasses :-(

Seth

I'm sorry :(

TheXed

but the good news is I qualify for a free license of Windows 10!

Seth

eww

TheXed

lol

edwinksl

1:23 AM

eww

WinEunuuchs2Unix

eww... lesser of two evils.

maybe the right eye will heal itself like mine did recently.... but windows won't heal itself :p

IanC

if anyone is interested, I found an answer to my own question on StackOverflow :D

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A: libpcap: pcap_breakloop() causing memory leak

It seems like this was indeed a bug on libpcap. According to this bug report on their GitHub page, pcap_compile was causing some memory leak very similar to the one I experienced on my codes. ==1505== still reachable: 8 bytes in 1 blocks Exactly 8 bytes in 1 blocks, like on my valgrind reports...

upvotes are welcome if you find it useful, I've barely any rep on SO :D

if I do some bounty I probably will be kicked from chat there hahaha

TheXed

4@WinEunuuchs2Unix yes she said it could heal on its own

But hey, I got a cool looking pair of oakleys...

they where cheaper then the off brand ones with my insurance lol

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@TheXed My fear of glasses is it makes your eyes lazy.

TheXed

Yeah I think I am lazy enough I don't need my eyes to compensate for that should be good.

Kaz Wolfe

1:37 AM

@TheXed technically, anyone does.

and glasses are just fine, i have no problem with them

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I used to wear glasses / contacts but then got lazer eye surgery.... freedom!

Kaz Wolfe

eh, glasses aren't bad.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: root ping-socket-permission-denied

I have a question about my Ask Ubuntu post: ping socket: Permission denied This is ubuntu 14.0.4LTS armhf. And others can ping it ok.But it can't ping any ip . It seems root permission.I log the strace below. capset({_LINUX_CAPABILITY_VERSION_3, 0}, {CAP_NET_RAW, CAP_NET_ADMIN|CAP_NET_RA0...

discussion

Kaz Wolfe

and i probably gain a good 2 attractiveness points thanks to them.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

coke bottle glasses are bad when your prescription was minus 8.5

Kaz Wolfe

1:40 AM

@Seth, how did that even get into Meta?

i think i'm -1.75 or something?

Seth

@KazWolfe now that you mention it.. that's a good question.

Kaz Wolfe

i mean, user doesn't have the rep required, wasn't a migrate...

TheXed

.75

And 0

Kaz Wolfe

timeline doesn't show anything interesting.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

There are eye exercises you can do on the internet.

People don't think about that.

Kaz Wolfe

1:44 AM

not for -1.75...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

No for like .25 changes I think.

That's my deviation.

TheXed

.o25 I mean

.25 damn mobile.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Amount of sleep, diet (or lack thereof) and beer seem to affect it.

one exercise is to quickly rub your palms together to heat them up and then rub them over your closed eyelids.

another exercise is to alternatively focus between far objects and close objects.

I guess the science is your eyes are muscles that need a work out too.

Seth

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Q: A way for "new users" to ask about their post specifically

We currently require that new users have 5+ reputation to participate in meta support discussions (bugs, feedback, governance, etc). This is primarily because the use case for meta is not intrinsically obvious, so we require a modicum of "experience" with the site before jumping into it. But th...

feature-request status-completed asking-questions new-users per-site-meta

WinEunuuchs2Unix

5+ isn't very much.

Then again even 6k+ post stupid things :p

um I meant myself, not any of you fine folks!

IanC

1:56 AM

man, I just read the conversation between Kaz and Panda, because I wasn't getting the Kaz starred quote

I thought I was paranoid

WinEunuuchs2Unix

There's an old song "Paranoia they'll destroy ya" or something like that

Nathan Osman

2:35 AM

If there were to be a theoretical Ask Ubuntu bot in this room... what are the useful things it could lookup for us?

Obviously one of the most helpful things would be dpkg-type requests.

For example "what package provides 'libvlc.so'" or something.

Or "what packages depend on 'libvlc-dev'".

Videonauth

the time, propable google search result links for is this a dupe questions, oh not forget dice rolls :p

Nathan Osman

The current UTC time, yes that would be useful. Searches for questions, absolutely. I'm not sure about dice rolls though.

Videonauth

sorry im too much D&D player :D

apt-cache search results as well apt-cache policy and show maybe

Nathan Osman

Yes.

Videonauth

but that could make long lists and even may be to long for a chat line

for example wehn you apt-cache search linux it yields a list which is gigantic

Nathan Osman

2:42 AM

One of the nice things about the new package I made is that it can launch new rooms, preventing the general room from becoming cluttered.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

bringing literal meaning to the figurative decades old saying "get a room".

Nathan Osman

No. No. Also no.

George the Dev

@NathanOsman you said "@GeorgetheDev test"

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I got a bad case of the lags from pulse audio or something....gotta reboot.

Videonauth

well i should head back into bed, just got woken up by my cat

IanC

2:51 AM

hello @GeorgetheDev!

Nathan Osman

That was weird.

Zacharee1

For $20 earbuds, these things give some good sound with the V20 DAC. I think I might like it better than the promotional earbuds I got that normally cost $150

@NathanOsman yes?

My nice cluttered status bar

Those Apple people don't know what they're missing

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Bluetooth earbuds rock!

Seth

@Zacharee1 Windows Phone?

IanC

man, going to sleep

too late already

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:00 AM

midnight?

IanC

and I woke up late to work today, because my alarm didn't go off

1am

gotta wake up 5:40

WinEunuuchs2Unix

wow 5 hours ahead of me.

it's 8 pm here.

IanC

+1 is summer time

well, good night folks!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Serg Hi. Thanks for your help with that Q&A on wallpaper.... Night @IanC

Serg

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Yeah, no problem.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:06 AM

Weird problem that guy is having but maybe upgrading 12.04 to 14.04 and then 16.04 causes headaches?

Serg

That Q&A are actually disappointing to me because OP is doing something wrong , so he fails with a working method that I've been personally using accross different Ubuntu versions. And someone who's new to Ubuntu will stumble upon that thread and think "Oh, that doesn't work".

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yes it's concerning when misleading information is in Q&A. But I don't think it's OP so much as state of machine.

TheXed

3:21 AM

Hi

Nathan Osman

Hello.

TheXed

Sup?

Nathan Osman

My chat package seems to work.

TheXed

Chat package?

Nathan Osman

github.com/nathan-osman/go-sechat

Nathan Osman

3:35 AM

Anyone remember this?

Nathan Osman

3:48 AM

Does three seconds to decompress 500MB of LZMA-compressed data sound right?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Sounds fast to me

Videonauth

so thats about 166 MB/s idsk activity

the compressing self is nearly instant since the amount fits into ram easily

Serg

4:13 AM

@NathanOsman that's whole lot of "ubuntu" in one url

TheXed

@NathanOsman what exactly does it do?

Serg

So . . .time to decide which classes from which I'm going to nope-out

definitely nope-outing from physics

Should I nope-out from Electromagnetic Fields ?

TheXed

@Serg sounds interesting...

what other choices do you have?

Serg

TheXed

China and East Asia for sure...

Digital Circuits III might be interesting...

Serg

4:21 AM

So, I'm definitely keeping "China and East Asia" and probably "Digital Circuits 3" , because VHDL programming :D

TheXed

Control Systems Analysis, maybe...

Serg

Control System Analysis is one of the classes I failed last semester. I kinda wanted to learn Matlab and prepare before re-taking it . . . So I'm unsure about it.

TheXed

Oh yeah don't do that again...

Serg

Electromagnetic Fields scares me for 2 reasons: professor and whole-lotta linear algebra

TheXed

it took me three times to pass a college algebra math class because the teacher either really liked me and didn't ever want me to leave the class, or hated me...I am not sure...

what happened to the askubuntu room on discord?

Serg

4:25 AM

Lol, same here with Calculus 2. The professor gave me C- , but requirement for our college is basically C

No idea what happened to that room, but now there's new one

TheXed

Can I get an invite?

edwinksl

see the starwall

Serg

4 hours ago, by Byte Commander

Ask Ubuntu Discord Server 2.0

TheXed

Uh..I can't do anything in there...

nevermind

Nathan Osman

@TheXed Does what do?

TheXed

4:37 AM

@NathanOsman your chat thing...

Nathan Osman

It's something apps can use to interact with the chat network here.

Serg

that was fast

Kaz Wolfe

5:14 AM

so, has anybody figured out how to beam items through the internet?

because i need to borrow a Torx T7 for a few minutes.

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe just pop over my place. I have a nice kit

Kaz Wolfe

what's your teleporter callsign and frequency?

Journeyman Geek

don't have that yet, just walk

Kaz Wolfe

that's a long walk.

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Q: Running 'chmod 777 *' on home directory

I accidentally run chmod 777 * on home directory. Will It be a problem? Then how to solve it?

16.04 permissions security home-directory chmod

profile: dummywebforbadge.com as website.

also frog.tips

Kaz Wolfe

6:11 AM

-1

Q: Can't connect to wifi using Biolinux 8

Hi Guys im new in Ubuntu, Im currently using Biolinux 8 in our office, I am having problem to connect on our wifi, since i reformat the pc into Biolinux 8, it was ok when im using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. I did try all the possible way just to make it work and follow all the tutorial and instruction tha...

networking drivers wireless wifi-direct

NotUbuntu.com

Zanna

@KazWolfe lol thanks! & thanks @Zacharee1 for pointing it out too ^_^

Kaz Wolfe

glad i could be of assistance

Videonauth

6:45 AM

Kaz Wolfe

or worse... FORTRAN.

still, your friendly PSA inbound:

[PSA] All Perl code is obfuscated.

Nathan Osman

Yay. I finally found the XP SP3 ISO.

Journeyman Geek

shred it? ;p

edwinksl

7:01 AM

as in the gnu shred?

Journeyman Geek

sounds good, yes.

Nathan Osman

Argh.

It isn't even bootable.

It's just the SP3 update.

Not the installation media :(

Kaz Wolfe

doesnt microsoft have xp isos?

Journeyman Geek

Nope

Kaz Wolfe

wait, it's an update disk, @NathanOsman?

i think there's something you delete in there to make it a boot disc

Journeyman Geek

7:07 AM

I actually think I may still have XP physical media somewhere

Kaz Wolfe

i have SP2 somewhere

actually, i have physical media for everything since 98. no idea why.

Nathan Osman

I have a Windows 98 SE disc.

After a bit of hacking I even managed to get it to run in VirtualBox.

Runs games like a charm - Need for Speed II SE, Madden 2000, etc.

But XP would be better.

Kaz Wolfe

also, if you have to run windows 10, the enterprise version is so much nicer.

you get to disable so much more.

Nathan Osman

Ah.

Windows 7 was pretty much the best version there ever was.

Kaz Wolfe

agree, though 10 does look nicer.

but if i wanted good looks, i'd go OSX.

or, actually, once i reinstall ubuntu again... I was thinking get Unity, disable the sidebar, and run Cairo or something.

Nathan Osman

7:13 AM

Yes, there are some aspects of 10 I like.

Kaz Wolfe

or maybe go back to Gnome2/Cinnamon/Mate + Cairo/AWN. That was awesome.

Nathan Osman

The task manager (which originated in Windows 8) is much nicer.

Kaz Wolfe

god, my setup back in 10.04 was amazing.

Nathan Osman

10.04 was the last to use Gnome, right?

Kaz Wolfe

last LTS.

Nathan Osman

7:14 AM

Right.

Yeah, I remember writing panel applets for Gnome :D

Kaz Wolfe

Speaking of, 12.04 goes EOL in April 2017.

so in a few months.

Nathan Osman

Wow, can it be that time already?

Kaz Wolfe

Come April 25, 12.04 is gone.

Nathan Osman

That's crazy.

Kaz Wolfe

Unity replaced everything in 11.04

It existed in the 12.10 Netbook Remix, though, as the first "official" preview

hm. i actually wonder if it's possible to disable the sidebar for unity.

i'll ask that question on reinstall on my shiny ~~new~~ used XPS.

Serg

8:18 AM

@KazWolfe disable side bar ? as in disable Unity launcher ?

It sort of can be done, but you need to edit source code and compile Unity with launcher size set to almost 0 width.

Byte Commander

8:59 AM

^^ all 3 gone

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