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@ByteCommander Shouldn't be a copyright issue, the band give these videos to this official channel as a sort of advertisement and promotion. They don't want it to be censored.

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda Let's call GEMA. 1-800 555 GEMA

:p

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 E: No Coffee, Sarcasm Detection Offline until Energy stores are replenished

5

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard $_POST["COFFEE"]

Thomas Ward

8:22 PM

@Zacharee1 406 Not Acceptable

Anwar

OT?

Byte Commander

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard $_POST["Doubleshot_Espresso"];

why

Anwar

bbl

Thomas Ward

because the server is offline.

edwinksl

8:24 PM

@Zacharee1 fite

Zanna

oh they don't want to use sed :(

Zacharee1

@Zanna sad sed

@edwinksl fite

edwinksl

i would fite but i am on mobile now

Zacharee1

@Anwar it's a Window Manager. idk why they call it a distro

@edwinksl fite :(

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 calls in an orbital strike

Zacharee1

8:27 PM

@ThomasWard FITE

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Tag Synonym Request: Asus-Related Stuff

Recently, Asus tags have been getting created left and right. I'd like to propose the following synonyms: asus-pc -> asus asus-laptop -> asus The ASUS tag seems good enough to cover almost any question that requires ASUS (which honestly, shouldn't be many at all). I am unable to submit this ...

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Q: Tag Synonym Request: [wsl] -> [bash-on-windows]

There are currently two tags covering Bash On Windows: bash-on-windows and wsl. I propose that wsl should be a synonym of bash-on-windows, as the latter is more readable and intuitive. I am unable to request this synonym myself, as I do not have enough votes and it seems to be a controversial s...

discussion tag-synonyms

Thomas Ward

well

they deleted it

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard woot woot deleted

but I was typing a zinger :/

Thomas Ward

said zinger probably would have been target-locked by me, deleted, and then everyone would get slapped

needs more coffee and sleep, but also needs food

Zacharee1

no, it was just me saying they never actually said anything about it being acceptable

and they're on SO, so they must know that question would probably work there...

Kaz Wolfe

8:31 PM

bloody new users

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe 3yr10mo on SO

one would think he knows what he's doing

Serg

Advice needed guys

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard LOL askubuntu.com/questions/818409/get-usb-device-name-in-ubuntu

Kaz Wolfe

unrelated

Zacharee1

@Serg kill it with fire

Serg

8:32 PM

Should i just keep 2 classes ?

@Zacharee1 i would if could

Zacharee1

:}

Zanna

@Serg what's the other option? what are all the classes? why do you consider keeping only 2?

Serg

2 or 3 classes ?

Zacharee1

how stressed are you?

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 NICE CAPS

Zacharee1

8:36 PM

@edwinksl THANKS FOR NOTICING

Thomas Ward

@AskUbuntuMeta Done because it makes sense.

edwinksl

SENPAI NOTICED ME

Thomas Ward

@AskUbuntuMeta Waiting for community consensus/agreement/discussion

goes back to declaring war against his python IDE

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard import sword from weapons

Thomas Ward

erm

Zacharee1

8:40 PM

@ThomasWard do you not like swords?

Thomas Ward

from ArclightArsenal import RailGun as ArclightRailGun, EnergyCannon as ArclightCannon, LightArms as ArclightSidearms, HeavyWeapons as Endgame

Zacharee1

ooooh

@ThomasWard I have a suggestion for tags, while we're still somewhat on the subject. Should I ask your opinion first or go to Meta?

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 you can ask, but I'll probably point you to meta unless it's super clear :)

Zanna

@Anwar I will upvote your answer to the sudo save as question tomorrow

Thomas Ward

(the asus tag merges were pretty damned easy because it made absolutely perfect sense)

Zacharee1

8:42 PM

he's still doing it... askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/610526

@ThomasWard there are a ton of obscure-ish and specific Dell tags, like dell-mini-9 and dell-mini-10 and del-xps-13 (or whatever). They seem a bit redundant with dell-laptop existing

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 mod level orbital strikes make sense

Zacharee1

huehuehue

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 masi is truly a legend

Thomas Ward

@edwinksl yet Masi needs to adapt to the tags - the decline on their review should help

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard we've been declining them and nothing's changed

edwinksl

8:44 PM

i meant that sarcastically btw :P

Serg

@Zanna well 2 clAsses is less pressure. 3 classes means i can buy an insurance

Zacharee1

@Serg insurance for what?

THERE we go askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/610534

Serg

@Zacharee1 health insurance. I'm 26 , by law required to have one , otherwise have to pay fee wwhen i do my taxes

Thomas Ward

I'll poke them then

Zacharee1

@Serg oh yesh

take teh clasz

Thomas Ward

8:45 PM

if they don't listen to mod-level squishing and declining of edit suggestions

@Masi you may wish to read Meta, and note that asus-laptop and asus-pc are now synonyms of asus. Adding asus-laptop and asus-pc are no longer going to help, and removal of asus tags won't help either. Tag merges confirmed. (Please check Meta, specifically this synonym request)

Zacharee1

1 min ago, by Zacharee1

THERE we go http://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/610534

what do I do with this? askubuntu.com/review/first-posts/610519

Serg

Sigh . . . .my college life is shiz , so much mistakes and so much bs

Zanna

@Serg can you deal with the pressure? Do you need the insurance?

Byte Commander

I revived my 2GB/month, >3Mbit/s VPN from hide.me now. Surfing from a Dutch IP address now :)

Serg

@Zanna yes i do need insurance. don't know about pressure. I'm also considering internship opportunity , so it might be a bit tough

Zacharee1

8:49 PM

yikes askubuntu.com/questions/818403/…

@Serg if you're an intern, do you get insurance from the company?

Zanna

haha nice comment

calm down and check the cable

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe I added an answer to your synonym request for the Asus stuff if you want to accept, though that status-completed helps :p

Zanna

@Serg if insurance is not optional then is there really a choice here? Or can you get this insurance some other way?

Zacharee1

So @ThomasWard about the Dell tags

or did I blank on your answer

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 I got busy

@Zacharee1 compile a list, metapost it

a mod'll review/get to it

Zacharee1

8:51 PM

kk

Thomas Ward

or the community will crucify you

or both

without a list of what tags you're suggesting be merged/aliased, I can't really help much :)

Zacharee1

well I gave you one :p

but I'm asking

Thomas Ward

I'd still put it on Meta

is about to go offline anyways for a while

Serg

@Zanna purchase from other companies or through a job.

@Zacharee1 its college internship so not sure about that

Byte Commander

Set up Canadian and Singapore servers as well - that should be enough to bypass YouTube GeoIP restrictions, even although it uses insecure PPTP.

Zacharee1

8:54 PM

@ByteCommander eww PPTP

@Serg hmm

Zanna

ok so if you have money you only need to do 2 classes and easy life, or if you get a job you can take only 2 classes but still have pressure from job?

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 I could have installed StrongSwan, but last time I tried, it messed up everything.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander no, don't use that. It messed up my computer too

Byte Commander

I still use TOR browser for everything that requires privacy though, this VPN is just to make YouTube think I am no German.

Zacharee1

synonym requested

Ask Ubuntu Meta

9:10 PM

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Q: Tag Synonym Request: Dell Tags

Right now, we have dell (1643), dell-vostro (60), dell-mini-10 (17), dell-studio-xps-16 (10) and dell-mini-9 (8). Since those tags, except for the dell tag, barely have any questions, it doesn't really make sense to keep them. If they were more popular, like the MacBook tag, then it would be use...

discussion tags tag-synonyms

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Q: Are brand tags necessary?

Within the past few hours (of writing) have had two tag synonym requests to clean up branding tags and to unify them under some centralized tags. However, this brings up the following question: Are brand tags (like asus) even necessary for the site? Tags are meant to define what a question...

discussion tags

Serg

@Zanna i think with job i could handle the pressure. depends on how much i work

Zanna

but it is uncertain now? you have job offers to hand, or anticipate a challenge on that front?

Serg

so i can squeeze in one more computer science class to two engineering classes already

@Zanna uncertain. Applied on linkedin but no response

Zanna

I see the problem

you have to decide imminently?

can you drop a class later without consequences?

Serg

not immediately but asap. Consequences could be if i dropb below 6 credit hours. I am at 7 right now

Zanna

9:17 PM

so could you not get job applications in the pipe, take 3 classes, and ditch one when you get a job?

Kaz Wolfe

o/ @FamousParanoidPanda

user136984

@KazWolfe: \o :)

Serg

@Zanna possibly yes

Zanna

that seems to me that least stressful option because knowing you have to get a job and not getting the job immediately is very stressful, imho

if stress is what we are trying to cut down on...

Zacharee1

bug report? askubuntu.com/questions/818425/…

should I just post this as an answer? askubuntu.com/questions/818403/…

or should we close the question, since it isn't Ubuntu?

Kaz Wolfe

9:25 PM

i'd say cannot be reproduced or Not Ubuntu.

Zanna

yeah I agree, hardware problem so OT, right?

Kaz Wolfe

different OS suggests that.

OT it is

Zacharee1

custom VTC FTW

rly

@Zanna add a third message :p

Zanna

lol I voted for yours

I'm a supporter

not an originator

Kaz Wolfe

aww :(

Zacharee1

9:30 PM

aww

I wanted to make it so all 5 VTCs had unique messages :p

Zanna

I started writing a comment here to tell them to install tree but do we know what the dir structure should look like? askubuntu.com/questions/818419/cant-execute-a-bin-file

Kaz Wolfe

i'm actually curious about what the system would do in that case

Zanna

well I failed in my supporting duties if I thwarted your desire then @Zacharee1 haha

Kaz Wolfe

we should have a sandbox.stackexchange.com site where we all have every privilege save for mod powers.

edwinksl

which of the custom reasons should i pick hmm

Kaz Wolfe

9:32 PM

use the one from the higher rep user :D

or zach's. it honestly doesn't matter

they say the same thing

edwinksl

alright 2 votes for each

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe Why

edwinksl

who is going to cast the 5th CV

Zacharee1

@Zanna :p

@edwinksl and which'll it be o_0_O

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg

edwinksl

9:33 PM

i like how kaz just threw Super User under the bus

Zacharee1

@edwinksl muahahahahahhahaha

Kaz Wolfe

askubuntu.com/review/reopen/610543

Zacharee1

eh, they get enough terrible questions already

what's one more?

@KazWolfe it's worse now

Kaz Wolfe

see, i should have a delete button for that post.

but i don't. which is dumb.

Zacharee1

don't you need -3?

Zanna

9:35 PM

I can't make anything of that but maybe I just lack experience in the topic. Whatever the topic is meant to me

Kaz Wolfe

i think some other conditions

Zacharee1

@Zanna no it makes no sense

Zanna

I have reviewed a total of 15 reopen votes... that gold badge could take a while hehe

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe

> You must wait for a question to be closed for 2 days before you can vote for deletion. This restriction is removed for trusted users when a post scores -3 or lower. If you feel a post should be deleted despite having lots of votes or for being new, please flag it for community moderator attention.

Kaz Wolfe

yep i see that.

Zacharee1

9:37 PM

So you need to wait 2 days or get 10k more rep

Kaz Wolfe

and sockpuppet it down 2 times

Zanna

lol

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe eh, just hack a mod acct

Kaz Wolfe

flagged

using my 10k powers to nuke 1 question tags. this is fun!

edwinksl

@Zanna why are your answers not accepted???

quite the streak you got going

Kaz Wolfe

9:44 PM

@edwinksl Is there a tag for stuff like date/currency formats?

edwinksl

no clue, i ain't no tag lord

user136984

Goodnight! :)

edwinksl

i haven't tagged much at all

@ParanoidPanda night!

user136984

Been a long day.

Kaz Wolfe

then locale it is.

Zanna

9:47 PM

well in at least 3 cases they are not accepted because OP can't find the accept button

added "thanks" as a comment or answer etc

Kaz Wolfe

who wants 5?

Zacharee1

huehuehuehuhee

Zanna

Maybe folks don't like it when a girl tells them what to do...

Kaz Wolfe

i didn't know until today

@ByteCommander askubuntu.com/questions/805761/… -- do either of these tags make any sense?

because i think just replacing them with software-installation is good enough

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe Don't know if this [x-apps] will ever be a thing on Ubuntu, if yes it would make a valid tag I think. However, [pix] seems to be too specific and not useful to me. It's all just my humble opinion though.

Kaz Wolfe

9:53 PM

alright. if [x-apps] becomes real, we can always make the tag. until then, i've just burned it

Zanna

:D

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe you found a way to use your powers

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander I'm guessing it's typically a good idea to burn tags about specific programs with only 1 question and no wiki?

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe do a search. If there are other questions about the same thing, then you might want to consider

someone said something about 15 questions for a tag to be created

Zanna

you want some more to burn? there's some new rubbish

Kaz Wolfe

9:55 PM

i have a list of every tag made in the last 30 days.

i think i already managed to halve it :D

Zanna

thank you

Kaz Wolfe

until mods yell at me for doing something

Zanna

It was painful to look at the view

Byte Commander

Believe me, those "mod tools" (which are just an info panel) get boring pretty soon...

Kaz Wolfe

i thought the review queues would do that too

Zacharee1

9:57 PM

@KazWolfe kill this one askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/x10

it has no questions

Kaz Wolfe

i can't delete unused tags

Zacharee1

this one has one question askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/firecracker

Kaz Wolfe

i can only disassoc them from questions

Zacharee1

ohh

Kaz Wolfe

or more accurately, i don't know how to nuke tags

Zacharee1

9:59 PM

heh

Zanna

is this one you can do something with Lord ZAMD? askubuntu.com/review/close/610362

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe wait. All it gives you is the ability to delete tags without editing the question

Kaz Wolfe

pretty sure only mods can purge tags

Zacharee1

THOMAS!!

@Zanna so on that GIMPShop subject

check out what the gimpshop.com page says

Zanna

you fixed it?

Zacharee1

10:05 PM

> Gimpshop.com is distributing the original unmodified software, obtained directly from GIMP's repository website, and does not modify it in any way. These installers comply with the original software manufacturer's policies and terms & conditions. DownloadAdmin™ is an install manager, which manages the installation of your chosen software. In addition to managing your download and installation, DownloadAdmin™will offer free popular software that you may be interested in.

> You are not required to install any additional software to complete your installation of your selected software. You can always completely remove the programs at any time in Windows' Add/Remove Programs.

the site is literally redistributing GIMP, but with a monetized download manager

Zanna

hahaha yeah I just found that

so gimpshop is fake

Zacharee1

that site is

is it legal for them to make money redistributing GIMP?

Zanna

up there where I mentioned Lord ZAMD I meant you @Zacharee1 did you click? ^^^^

Zacharee1

I know it's open source, but they're not modifying it at all

Zanna

I am soooo not an expert on licenses

Zacharee1

10:08 PM

@Zanna I took a look, idk

Zanna

I skipped it

is gimpshop actually a thing now then?

Zacharee1

no

GIMPShop was a thing, but it was put on hold in 2006

Zanna

like I said before you killed my GIMP

Zacharee1

wut

Zanna

I said it's been abandoned long time 'go

Zacharee1

10:12 PM

I'm lost :p

Zanna

but you said nah zanna install this deb I found down the back of the sofa

Zacharee1

4 hours ago, by Zanna

not your fault :) @Zacharee1

whistles nonchalantly

Zanna

hahaha I stand by that statement

but ima still joke about it

Zacharee1

:p

Zanna

there was no doubt it was going to be horrible haha

Zacharee1

10:14 PM

sigh

so it is legal to redistribute GIMP for profit as long as the GPL license is included

Seth

yeah

Zacharee1

doesn't look like they include the license though gimpshop.com/terms-and-conditions

it's a badly recreated T&C from somewhere it I think

quite a few grammatical errors and vague statements

Kaz Wolfe

hlelo @Seth

Seth

hi

Kaz Wolfe

so question. can regular users purge tags?

or just mods.

Zacharee1

10:19 PM

ah wait gimpshop.com/gpl

Seth

@KazWolfe the only way to purge tags it to leave them with no questions.

Kaz Wolfe

and the system will remove them after a while?

Zacharee1

hmm

> Note that you cannot simply give a link to the GIMP ftp mirrors: it should be the exact source code that was used to compile the binary package that you are selling and you have to cover the costs of redistribution yourself. If you sell and distribute the binaries online, the GPL requires you to make the source code available “from the same place” so giving a link to the GIMP mirrors is not sufficient

I think I should contact them and ask for their source code. See what they do

Zanna

do it

the T&Cs are like... conflicting with the GPL violently? or is it just that IANAL?

Zacharee1

idk

but they have the T&C, which do seem weird, and then they also have the GPL

Zanna

10:23 PM

which says the opposite

Zacharee1

should we go to [legal.se]?

wait

Kaz Wolfe

Law

Zacharee1

thx

lol law.stackexchange.com/posts/13693/revisions

Zanna

looks painful. if a post is all in caps I copy it into the terminal for example and alt+l through it

hah but that wouldn't fix it all in that case hahaha

Serg

i think im overestimating my capabilities....just squeezed in job in addition to classes on monday

Zanna

10:28 PM

you got job?

most likely you are underestimating yourself hehe

Zacharee1

yikes law.stackexchange.com/questions/13690/…

Serg

@Zanna computer labs still willing to hire me, so i made up schedule and still will apply for internship.

edwinksl

everyone needs a sysadmin

Zanna

@Serg congrats :)

Zacharee1

@Zanna that site is a disaster. Not sure I want to ask :p

@Zanna and seeing as you have better received questions here, you know how to do it better anyway :p

100 rep so far today

little more than an hour to go for UTC 0

Zanna

10:40 PM

yeah who knows what they will send you pretending to be source code hehe

Zacharee1

I'll open it in a Linux VM :p

btw, I meant Law, not GS.com :p

and not Goldman Sachs

Zanna

isn't there an open source SE?

I dreamt it?

I would just email Richard Stallman directly

Kaz Wolfe

Open Source

Zanna

there you go

Zacharee1

@Zanna I still think you'd be better at asking it :p

Zanna

10:44 PM

my brain is not totally in S3 yet

@Zacharee1 if you want I will ask, but tomorrow, it's 2344 BST

Zacharee1

sure

Zanna

remind me, my absent-mindedness is legend

Zacharee1

we'll see if I remember o-O

Zanna

hehe one of us will remember eventually I hope

later folks :)

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