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Rinzwind

10:00 AM

* until proven otherwise :+)

Zanna

haha @Rinzwind agreed!

Rinzwind

Thing is ... bacteria do have some kind of awareness.

terdon

@Zanna I know, but it's still alive and interacts with its environment. By the way, there are three kingdoms (or 4 with archaea), not 5. The protists (not protoctista) are still animals.

So, the defining factor is a central nervous system? If so, would eating, say, insects be OK?

Rinzwind

Chocolate dipped fried ants? :P

terdon

Also, would you eat meat if the—admittedly horrendous—practices of modern animal husbandry were improved or is it the death of the animal itself that's the problem?

Jacob Vlijm

10:03 AM

@Rinzwind Maak me niet gek!

terdon

@Rinzwind Loads of edible insects. Colombians eat ants like pop corn.

Serg

4 AM

terdon

usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/…

Serg

and i'm hungry

Zanna

@terdon oh my knowledge is out of date?! I am teaching this in GCSE syllabus 0.0
Let's say... I wouldn't eat insects because I can extend compassion to them... but not so much to yeast...

Baklap4

10:06 AM

Anyone who's able to help me with my graphics drivers?
Just upgraded to 16.04 but now it says graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe
The things suggested here at askubuntu are not working at all: http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/42362/gallium-used-instead-of-intel-nvidia

Zanna

I would never eat meat personally if I could survive without it, but assuming horrendous farming practices weren't an issue, I would consider my choice eccentric rather than right-on :)

terdon

@Zanna Well, I certainly wouldn't call protists a kingdom of their own anyway. But, as I just found out, you're quite right and some do consider them so. Whatever, the whole "kingdoms" thing is not really very rigorous.

@Zanna I see.

Thanks for explaining :)

Zanna

@terdon yeah I agree, I actually think classification is BS & science that proceeds by cutting things into pieces and putting the fragments into categories & treat all the contents as the same is... not good methology. All the best bits of science make links, for example E=mc^2 :)

thank you for expressing an interest

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Authentication vsftpd account using remote LDAP user

I'm trying to authenticate vsftpd from LDAP logins which hosted remotely another server . vsftpd hosted on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-48-generic x86_64) amazon aws . from the LDAP server i have these details . user : cn=demo,dc=ldap,dc=foobar,dc=com Password : testp...

terdon

Well, the so-called Aristotelian approach of cutting complex systems down into simple bits, understanding said bits and then extrapolating to the system has served us very well for a long time. We've now realized that it's not good enough for studying systems and that there are the emergent qualities that can only be observed when studying the system as a whole. Hence systems sciences. but still, the old fogeys did lay the groundwork.

Zanna

10:20 AM

I concede your well-made point. I made an unjust sweeping statement :)

terdon

@Zanna Sorry about that. I did my post-doctoral work on systems biology so have spent more time than I probably should have thinking about this sort of thing :)

Zanna

heh don't be sorry for teaching & helping <-- makes stuff better ^_^

Serg

wooo \ o / easy rep in 10 minutes

terdon

Yeah, I was just cleaving a little too close to that fine line between teaching and pontificating. I tend to do that :)

Serg

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Q: Using awk or sed to cut a line

I am trying to get just the configure arguments of compiled nginx on Ubuntu 14.04 using a command line. Running /usr/local/nginx/sbin/nginx -V gives us: nginx version: nginx/1.8.1 built by gcc 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.1) built with OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 TLS SNI support e...

bash nginx sed

Jacob Vlijm

10:24 AM

@Serg I always do it with scissors

Serg

@JacobVlijm Axes work even better :p

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg will you post that or shall I?

Rinzwind

@Serg I can offer some chocolate dipped fried ants if you want?

Serg

@JacobVlijm if you mean this cut a line question, i already have posted awk solution, but feel free to post alternative with some other tool

Or even awk . . . if there's any shorter version . . . .

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg I meant that question, but with the ax or scissors

Serg

10:27 AM

@JacobVlijm I doubt axes and scissors work in terminal XD

Jacob Vlijm

...Let me try...

Rinzwind

They works one time! :=)

And are the perfect encryption tools too!

Jacob Vlijm

I did it!

Rinzwind

and 1 more advantage
you don't need to remember a passphrase

3

Serg

XD

Byte Commander

10:42 AM

@JacobVlijm secure disk wipe.

Maybe...

I can't really tell which part of that pile was born as a hard disk once.

Serg

Dynamite also works really well

terdon

@Serg you might want to add an explanation of stdout vs stderr to your answer since that is the main issue.

Byte Commander

@Serg HCl (aq)

Serg

@terdon done and done

Jacob Vlijm

Sorry that the "Sue Mistress" question is gone. I think we should allow some overlap with other sites :)

Byte Commander

10:52 AM

@JacobVlijm It hasn't been caught by smoke detector, right? Do you have a link to the deleted Q for me?

Serg

I regret every morning that I am still awake

Byte Commander

never mind, I found it by manually trying to enter all post URLs that do not show up on the front page from the last hours...

close EOL (Ubuntu 9.10) askubuntu.com/q/797735/367990

Serg

11:07 AM

sigh.....why can't i control my sleep.....

Byte Commander

@Serg Maybe @Videonauth should send you some of his pills...

Or simply try warm milk with honey. Or valerian.

Serg

@ByteCommander last year I would drink three or four cups of coffee mixed up with water, basically distilled coffee.

And that helped

I would pass out around 8 or 9 pm

Not right away, of course, through out the day

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Thought : Stopping Spam posts automatically

This is kind of Discussion post, If I am a spammer I will not paste here links from *pastebin*(assume wild card can be anything and any length) and already to upload images we are providing a platform to end users. So can we simply stop atleast some percentage of spam posts by making few filter...

discussion feature-request

Serg

But still , that really helped

Byte Commander

@Serg Coffee made you fall asleep? o.O

Serg

11:16 AM

@ByteCommander yup . . . weird , but true

Byte Commander

Does valerian make you hyperactive then?

Serg

Never tried it, actually. I should

Serg

11:30 AM

Welp , with 65 rep under the belt , I leave for the next 9 hours or so . . . Also , will be yelled at today probably , because I won't be able to wake up on time and take my friend's family to aquarium

Byte Commander

Good night. Sleep well.

Byte Commander

11:57 AM

@terdon User with quite many contributions so far got mad user offensive

Stefano Palazzo

:-(

SmokeDetector

12:14 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected, blacklisted user: RStudio does not launch after installation by user5363615 on askubuntu.com …

Jacob Vlijm

I read an interesting research once, about what communication without the non-verbal elements (like on internet, like here) can do to people and their communication. Not always for the best. email- wars are well-known.

CodeX

and now I will be using Kubuntu

Byte Commander

@StefanoPalazzo Let this one get deleted as abusive or roll back the self-vandalism edit? askubuntu.com/a/743023/367990 Not sure if the initial version is worth saving it.

Stefano Palazzo

thanks for bringing this up

Byte Commander

12:32 PM

@StefanoPalazzo I thought you suspended him, he jsut posted a (valuable?) question: askubuntu.com/q/797765/367990

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: What is the best way to set up a company shared drive using Ubuntu Server? by user5363615 on askubuntu.com …

Stefano Palazzo

They posted before the suspension @ByteCommander

The question looks okay.

Byte Commander

Strange guy. Why did he do the self-vandalism then?

Stefano Palazzo

I'm going to stay positive and say they're having a very bad day.

It's probably this Ubuntu thing. Never works properly. :)

Byte Commander

:P

Rinzwind

12:50 PM

@ByteCommander or he used a location with an open internet and someone mis-used it :P

Byte Commander

Who knows...

Android Dev

1:14 PM

How can someone with 1.5k on SO write such an awful question? askubuntu.com/q/797761/518562

Jacob Vlijm

Not saying it's a good question, but what is exactly the awful part?

Thomas W.

pokes @Rinzwind

Stefano Palazzo

loopbacki?

@JacobVlijm I also don't get it. The question looks fair enough to me.

Maybe your edit :)

Jacob Vlijm

1:29 PM

@StefanoPalazzo :) thanks!

terdon

2:09 PM

Wow. This is probably quite real:

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Q: How can I remove LINUX/EBURY from Ubuntu 16.04?

I was alerted that I had a virus in my Ubuntu 16.04 which I installed a few weeks ago. I verified the system with chkrootkit to see if it found anything and it did indeed find "LINUX/EBURY". I searched Google for information about how I can eliminate this virus but found nothing. Does anyone kn...

antivirus chkrootkit

I don't have time to do it now, so if anyone wants to post an answer, here's a good reference:

welivesecurity.com/2014/02/21/…

Rinzwind

2:25 PM

rootkit != virus

@ThomasW. why you poke me? me no pokemon :(

terdon

@Rinzwind I know, but I didn't want to change the OP on that. It is indicative of their level of understanding and helps answerers know how to phrase their answers.

Rinzwind

@terdon that page you link to seems odd. I find that file on other places than they say.

terdon

I found it there on my Arch. Maybe it's yet another file that UBuntu decided to move?

Rinzwind

should be /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/

terdon

Anyway, I really don't know, that was just my first google result

Thomas W.

2:35 PM

was pinged but was busy

@Rinzwind Because I commented on one of your answers, and then ten minutes ago edited it

Rinzwind

on it btw @terdon

Thomas W.

so i need you to poke/review

Rinzwind

aha

Thomas W.

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A: www directory is not there when I open var

The FHS defines the directories and /var/www/ is not a default directory. From the link: Requirements The following directories, or symbolic links to directories, are required in /var. Directory Description cache Application cache data lib Variable state information local Var...

As of at least Xenial (possibly Wily), /var/www/html is the default configuration file's docroot location for nginx. It is created if it doesn't exist during the installation of nginx-common which all nginx flavors (extras, full, core, light) depend on. — Thomas W. ♦ 1 hour ago

^ confirmed Wily+ nginx uses /var/www/html as default docroot

so please review/edit accordingly, but wanted to let you know the edit/comment existed

Rinzwind

nope.

Thomas W.

2:40 PM

nope?

Rinzwind

your rep is high enough to warrant it without reviewing :+)

Byte Commander

NAA askubuntu.com/a/797809/367990

Thomas W.

heh

@Rinzwind being the nginx maintainer in Ubuntu has nothign to do with it then :)

Byte Commander

@Rinzwind rep + mod powerz...

Rinzwind

@terdon good enough? Or did I copy/paste it too much? askubuntu.com/questions/797787/…

fine approved >:-) @ThomasW.

dont make me regret voting for you >:-D

terdon

2:42 PM

@Rinzwind Looks good. I would also suggest that the OP change their ssh credentials since, apparently, those are this rootkit's target

Rinzwind

oh yes I saw that

check!

now here is hoping @ParanoidPanda does not see that topic.

Byte Commander

That's why you pinged him...

Rinzwind

Ofcourse >:-D

Making Panda more paranoid is a goal in itself >:)

@terdon ssh -G 2>&1 | grep -e illegal -e unknown > /dev/null && echo "System clean" || echo "System infected" seems a check too

from comments

Byte Commander

o.O?

Rinzwind

now to sit back and watch the rep flow in :=)

terdon

2:57 PM

@Rinzwind Really? That seems too easy to check! Wow!

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

3:21 PM

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Q: Compiling PHP with apache mod_php on Linux

I first asked this at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38319400/unable-to-locate-apxs2-on-linux but it's probably not the right place for this. I need to compile PHP with apache module on Kubuntu. I have installed both apache2 and apache2-dev. But I am unable to locate apxs2 nor apxs. Any id...

linux ubuntu apache-httpd php5

CodeX

3:35 PM

wrong decision to install kubuntu

edwinksl

what happened

CodeX

keeps crashing

I better try mint or Ubuntu GNOME

Thomas W.

4:22 PM

accidentally drops a pin, and hears it ping against the ground with it being so quiet here

grooveplex

F••k Nvidia

2

CodeX

Linus Torvalds ..is that you ? Lol

user136984

@Zacharee1 Until what?

Thomas W.

@grooveplex Rudeness begets rudeness.

Nathan Osman

5:13 PM

Good morning.

I managed to finally get the SVG icon issue fixed.

Thomas W.

5:24 PM

@NathanOsman mageia 6 is evil

Nathan Osman

How come? :D

Thomas W.

crashed :P

also was still installing an hour ago

Nathan Osman

On boot?

I managed to get it to boot with some hacking >:)

I set VirtualBox's execution cap to 20% when first booting and then when it gets to the splash, I restore it to 100%.

The sad part is that the technique actually worked reproducibly.

All that being said, I don't like it.

If I wanted an RPM-based system, Fedora or CentOS is the way to go.

Thijser

6:11 PM

Hey all quick question, I'm trying to get my grandma's wifi to work but it's not working anyone got any experience? I have kubuntu and the connection just times out.

Thomas W.

@Thijser any of fifty billion reasons

Thijser

Yes I noticed that there are a lot, can you advice me how to quickly find which one it is?

edwinksl

have you tried searching the site? there are tons of wifi-related questions (may just be the most common hardware question on this site)

Thijser

Yes I tried the search, tried looking at the wifi driver instal but that didn work

This one for example askubuntu.com/questions/726292/…

edwinksl

if you are convinced nothing in the site solves your problem, then consider posting a question? that way you get more eyeballs on your problem

Thijser

6:15 PM

Couldn't find aditional drivers (suggested elsewhere)

Yes but I'm slightly time limited as I have to go in about an hour

$ lspci -knn | grep Net -A2
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 [8086:095a] (rev 61)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wireless-N 7265 [8086:5002]
Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi

Any idea what Problem renaming the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.5eikMP to /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - rename (2: No such file or directory)
means?

grooveplex

@CodeX yep

All questions on Ask Ubuntu, to some degree, involve Nvidia and asparagus

Thijser

6:34 PM

Any idea what it means when sudo dhclient wlan0 hangs?

Thomas W.

use sudo dhclient -v wlan0 and see what's really going on

because I doubt it's 'hanging', rather I think it's waiting for a DHCP reply :P

Thijser

$ sudo dhclient -v wlan0
[sudo] password for corrie:
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.4
Copyright 2004-2012 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/wlan0/34:02:86:b7:68:67
Sending on LPF/wlan0/34:02:86:b7:68:67
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 (xid=0x77302249)
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 (xid=0x77302249)
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 (xid=0x77302249)

DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 (xid=0x77302249)
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 (xid=0x77302249)

Should I wait longer?

It keeps giving those same messages what do they mean?

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda doom and gloom (aka wolfboyft)

user136984

@Zacharee1: Thought so... 7 days now...

Zacharee1

dun dun dunnnnnn

what if he gets suspended right away again

user136984

6:45 PM

I hope that mods get an alert or something when a user suspended for so long gets unsuspended.

user136984

He might, but what if he's already done the damage?

Zacharee1

dunno

we can ask the mods here to be on alert for any activity

user136984

I doubt he'll come here though, more likely the Arqade main chat room, that's where he feels comfortable and tried to release my information last time.

user136984

It's probably fortunate that he doesn't feel very welcomed in this room.

user136984

@Zacharee1: But yes, I would feel more comfortable if the mods did keep a bit of an eye on his activities at least for a week or something.

Zacharee1

6:50 PM

all they would have to do is check for the latest time seen

if it's recent, then check actual acitivity

are there active mods in the Arqade chat?

user136984

I don't know... Haven't been there in a long while (I only went there to monitor him)...

user136984

Don't have any real plans to go back there either...

user136984

But I think that there is a mod who is there and sometimes comes here...

Thijser

Hmmm FATAL: Module wl not found

user136984

@Zacharee1: Hmm... Seemingly there are a few mods around there frequently.

Zacharee1

6:58 PM

good I guess

you may want to just drop a message in

user136984

@Zacharee1: To who though? And what would I say?

user136984

You mean just contact one of the mods who is frequent there and ask them to just keep an eye out?

Zacharee1

just put a message in saying there's a user (wolfboyft) who may know your contact details and plans to release them when his suspension is up

ping a mod who was there recently when you say it

user136984

You mean actually post it into the Arqade main room?

Zacharee1

yeah

user136984

7:04 PM

I'm not sure that that would necessarily be a good idea (especially if he somehow sees it and it makes it more likely he'll do something bad)... I would much prefer to do it in private. Maybe I can contact one of the mods here and they can just alert some of the mods there to the possibility of trouble when he comes back?

Zacharee1

maybe

user136984

I don't know... I'll have to think about it...

user136984

@Zacharee1: Who do you think would be the best mod to speak to?

Zacharee1

idk

user136984

Well, seem to be no mods around now so when one comes on I'll sort it out with them. :)

user136984

7:18 PM

Why is it so quiet in here at the moment?

user136984

Great... Now it's gone down to 6 days... >:{

user136984

Early in the morning it said 8, then 7 in the day, and now 6! That's 3 days in one!

edwinksl

@ParanoidPanda people probably having vacations and ditching AU :)

Nathan Osman

You need a chat mod?

grooveplex

The funny thing, when you think about it, is that UNIX, which started it all, itself is closed-source

Zacharee1

7:31 PM

@NathanOsman for Arqade

woflboyft is close to the end of his suspension

last seen 1 hr ago!

grooveplex

It would be nice if there way an easy way to reach any mod, on any SE site, by email

[username]@[sitename]

Or maybe even grooveplex@users.askubuntu.com

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 The chat room or the site?!?

Zacharee1

chat

@grooveplex no....

user136984

@Nathan: Yes... I'm just slightly concerned about something, I don't know if you remember the guy who used to come in here and call me "roboduck" and attack me verbally, but he got himself suspended for a year from the arqade site because he started being nasty to me in there in their main chat. Anyway, his suspension ends next Tuesday and the last time I spoke to him it sounded like he might do something like release my personal information or start attacking me again.

user136984

So I just wondered if the mods frequent there could be asked to keep an eye on him at least for the first week or something?

edwinksl

7:37 PM

you know the user in real life?

user136984

I do.

Zacharee1

you do?

user136984

Yes

user136984

Or at least, I did...

grooveplex

Then you can easily call the cops on them, right?

or whatever

Zacharee1

7:38 PM

so then he does know your address?

@grooveplex it's "coppers" in British :PP

user136984

I think he might, he either realised he didn't have it, or he just decided not to come and stab me like he said he would...

grooveplex

I.. don't know how to help you

Zacharee1

so you actually know him, as an acquaintance?

user136984

Yes, I've met him at least twice.

Zacharee1

@grooveplex we fly over an patrol the property with guns :p

@ParanoidPanda o_O. In what setting?

user136984

7:40 PM

He used to be a friend of mine (for a very short time)...

Zacharee1

rly

did you introduce him to here?

user136984

No, he tracked me down here...

Zacharee1

oh

...

creepy

grooveplex

@Zacharee1 good plan

user136984

Indeed...

Zacharee1

7:41 PM

@grooveplex ikr

Nathan Osman

No wonder you're paranoid panda...

Zacharee1

lol

grooveplex

I don't know if it's what I'd do but I think I'd call the cops or something

Like seriously

If it's that bad

I don't know

Serg

@terdon is there a tool for viewing how many questions were marked as dupe of a specific one ? For example, I would be interested to see if anyone marked things as dupes of any of my questions

Zacharee1

I suggested it too @grooveplex

edwinksl

7:43 PM

i am pretty sure stalking is a crime in the UK

report it to the police if you have sufficient evidence

Zacharee1

not to mention online threats

he has a chat record here

grooveplex

@Serg there's some kind of stack exchange data explorer

user136984

If he does something again like give me a death threat or actually release my important personal information online (like my address) then I will file a report with the police.

grooveplex

I'd suggest you do it now

Zacharee1

yeah\

grooveplex

7:45 PM

Better safe than, uh, sorry

Zacharee1

otherwise, your stuff is online

grooveplex

@ParanoidPanda also if it's up to the level that he might actually issue a death threat, then I'd certainly file a report ASAP

Serg

@grooveplex there's plenty of stack exchange tools , but i've never heard of something like that - checking dupes of a specific question

edwinksl

@ParanoidPanda only you can assess the severity of the situation. if it already affects you significantly psychologically, then i would say you can go ahead to talk to the popo

user136984

@grooveplex: I'll have to think about it, but it's been a while, maybe I should just give him one last chance. You know, maybe (probably not, but hopefully) he's changed... Also, no idea how to file a report and it doesn't feel like what he said to me here is enough evidence... I don't know, I'll have to have a look into it.

Zacharee1

7:48 PM

walk into the nearest station and ask about it

Serg

I need to keep up with my answers and fix my sleep . . . . This has become quite ridiculous situation that I go to sleep at 5 AM and wake up at 2 - 4 pm

Zacharee1

tell them the situation and they can tell you if a report is a good idea right now

@Serg o.0

@Serg lol

Go to sleep already

7:49 PM

@grooveplex but i just woke up ! Oo

Zacharee1

he just woke up :p

user136984

@Zacharee1: Ok, I'll look into it. :)

Serg

<.< Zach gets it right

user136984

That was a very odd message I just saw flagged up... :D

Zacharee1

wut

Serg

7:51 PM

And I have sooo many questions on my list. Most of them are oldies , so I don't worry about time pressure, but still . . .

user136984

It was something about whether males would mind being controlled directly or indirectly... But then I didn't see the context of it so it would seem strange...

grooveplex

I believe you can file a report online @ParanoidPanda

Harassment is a perfectly fine reason

Zacharee1

He should probably talk to someone in person, in case it isn't reportable just yet

grooveplex

Hmmm

Zacharee1

idk the British laws on online harassment and stalking

user136984

7:53 PM

I'll have to look into it, maybe ask a few knowledgeable friends of mine...