Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:00 AM

I don't think it's going to work. A whole section doesn't show up, and I can't even connect my domain to it (the button is non-functional

But, here's the site I have now: techyteen.tk @HeatherBrown

Fabby

@HeatherBrown (whew!)

OK, now I know I didn't offend/aggravate/... you, I can go sleep the sleep of innocents! @HeatherBrown

Good night all!

@Zacharee1 Oh, and you didn't change the rate: 10$ for the first hour, and then you can go down to 5$/hour for the rest.

Zacharee1

Yeah, give me a bit

Fabby

IMHO, you should be asking 50$ for the first hour, 25 for the next ones and

Zacharee1

yeesh

Fabby

and set typical total rates for the stuff you do.

So "Installing PC running Ubuntu with LibreOffice/Antivirus/Printer" typical: 65,5$

user139252

12:05 AM

Weebly... Ew :p

Fabby

Anyway, I'm going to sleep before I fall face-down on my keybodjhgkjhfjdgfjsdhbv,ndn

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Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown I know I know. I'm not good enough with manual HTML, though, and I can't seem to even find one that lets me import

Also, hosting

user139252

@Zacharee1Apache, home server, html5up.net

user139252

Like my site

user139252

That's how I've got mine setup

Zacharee1

12:10 AM

WHY WON'T THIS STUPID COLOR CHANGE

user139252

Then, you can also use let's encrypt for free ssl

Zacharee1

Hmm. Home hosting won't work

ISP blocks 80

But that looks like an interesting builder or whatever

user139252

Your ISP is lame :p

user139252

Verizon out here even unlocked port 25 for me because I asked nicely

Zacharee1

We have Service Electric (PenTeleData)

Welp, I fixed the text issue

Just had to use the actual graphical editor -_-

@HeatherBrown ooo, I like these themes

Nathan Osman

12:21 AM

@Seth are you saying I gave enough warning this time or not enough? :P

We're kind of in limbo now that @ParanoidPanda posted on meta.AU.

Seth

@NathanOsman I'm saying you didn't give anyone notice. No one is going to see your chat message.

@NathanOsman meh, just post it.

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown What HTML/CSS editor would you recommend? It's better if it works in Windows, but I guess Ubuntu-only is fine

Yay

I found the editor I was playing with over the summer

Brackets

Nathan Osman

12:36 AM

Well... I'm mobile ATM.

So maybe I'll write up something for next Sunday.

That should be enough notice :)

Seth

indeed :)

user139252

@Zacharee1 I use vim, tbh

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown I'm going to sound stupid, but how do I make a site with this HTML5UP?

@HeatherBrown wow

user139252

You download the template, open it up in an editor, change what you need, save the files to your server

Zacharee1

Hmm

OK

I'll have to figure out what Brackets is doing then

user139252

12:42 AM

I keep the page open in a browser window, tweak things in vim, refresh the page to test, repeat

Nathan Osman

Same here. Except for the vim part :P

Sublime FTW.

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown @NathanOsman Brackets has live preview mode and is by Adobe. It's also really fast. When you click text in the editor it tells you what it corresponds to by flashing the live preview

Seth

Brackets isn't bad.

I usually prefer to have the page open in a browser though because previews are usually lousy at best.

Nathan Osman

Yeah.

And if Atom ever gets some performance improvements, it would be a nice editor.

But right now, it's almost as bad as Chrome.

Seth

o_O

I haven't had any issues whatsoever, and I use it a lot.

Sublime will probably always be better, simply because it is compiled, but atom is catching up fast.

Zacharee1

12:50 AM

@Seth it is in browser. it just needs Chrome

user139252

I like Chromium :p

Nathan Osman

I like Opera :P

user139252

I love this time of the year... Hot ciders are 50% off at Target

Journeyman Geek

I read that as hot coders.

@Zacharee1 use another port?

Zacharee1

@JourneymanGeek bad for business

user139252

12:56 AM

I would love a hot coder, too

user139252

You use .tk, right?

user139252

Set up your A record to go to another port

Journeyman Geek

@Zacharee1 in that case, invest a little money and get a VPS :p

@HeatherBrown ._.

whaaaat?

Zacharee1

does that let people connect to 80 while it actually goes to somewhere else?

@JourneymanGeek I DONT HAVE A LITTLE MONEY

:p

Journeyman Geek

I think its called something else

port redirection

user139252

12:58 AM

I'm pretty sure that can be done

user139252

Or set up URL forwarding

Journeyman Geek

Typically A records don't care about ports

user139252

Get two domains, set one to URL forwarding (frame method) to the other domain at a different port

user139252

And then that forward target could be hosted at your home

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown fun...

I think my ISP might already be suspicious enough with all the traffic from the Minecraft server

Apparently it's against the TOS to host a web server (MC technically isn't, but I'd say it's gray area)

ping me if you talk to me

I'm editing

Seth

1:12 AM

resists urge to ping Zach

user139252

@Zacharee1 I didn't think ISPs really cared as long as it was nothing malicious or bandwidth demanding

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown Apparently not :p

They also throttle torrents, which I'm pretty sure was made illegal recently

I need a name for my business

Any ideas @HeatherBrown @Seth ?

user139252

Foobs

user139252

That's a good name

Zacharee1

Srsly

pls

user139252

1:20 AM

@Zacharee1, yes it is illegal to throttle

user139252

Don't ask me

Zacharee1

Something tech related

Generic

user139252

I go by Brown Tech

Zacharee1

Hmm. Wander Tech doesn't have that ring to it :p

user139252

Wanderlust Tech

Zacharee1

1:23 AM

I knew you were going to say that -_-

user139252

My home NAS is called the Brown Cloud

user139252

I'm not the most creative for names

user139252

Tech10

user139252

Penn Tech

user139252

Simple PC

user139252

1:30 AM

GCC - General Computing Company

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown Your name works well though :p

hmm

Seth

@Zacharee1 you're asking me to name something?

Zacharee1

sure

Seth

I couldn't name a doornail -.-

(I'm pretty sure I just made the expression up..)

@Zacharee1 What ISP?

Zacharee1

Service Electric

See if you can connect to xpw1.no-ip.org:62447

Seth

1:37 AM

service electric? Better'n Comcast. Remember CISA? Well the final version they tucked in a budget bill (to their shame) included net neutrality loopholes..

Ubuntu like a BOSS!

Zacharee1

So if this live preview opens at 127.0.0.1, how can I make it so I can connect to it at my actual IP?

(Windows)

Seth

(via G+)

Zacharee1

yikes

The CSS is too confusing on this template

time to try another

user139252

@Zacharee1 on a home server?

Zacharee1

Yeah

I want you guys to be able to see the live preview

user139252

1:58 AM

Find your public IP, copy it, register an A record with your registrar

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown I have port forwarding and No-IP. If I try to connect to my IP thru the web browser or if I try the No-IP address, I get connection refused

heheheh I can remove the attribution heheheh

But I won't, because this is a great template

and it isn't intrusive

user139252

That's NAT. Put your computer in the DMZ

Zacharee1

wat

watwatwat

user139252

In your router settings

Zacharee1

I think the site's coming along nicely though

erm

user139252

2:17 AM

It's because the router doesn't want internal requests to the external ip

Zacharee1

hmm

ok

I think

So I set the DMZ private IP to mine?

It doesn't work locally, so I'm going to give up for now

How do I put two elements on one row?

user139252

?

Zacharee1

like columns

user139252

Depends on the element

Zacharee1

this              that
this              that

user139252

2:22 AM

Span styles usually work well

Zacharee1

Can you give me an example?

Like I said, I'm not good with manual HTML

Got it with tr and td

At least I did have it

there we go

Ravan

2:38 AM

@Seth thanks =)

Zacharee1

2:53 AM

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Seth

just busy :)

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Seth

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Zacharee1

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Seth

add a line break

hbdgaf

2:58 AM

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Seth

That moment when you accidentally Ctrl+Shift+W

Zacharee1

@Seth lol

@hbdgaf it's loading

How much did you put??!?!?!?!

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Seth

I think there is, but I don't know what it is..

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Well that wasn't it...

Prabhpreet

Hi everyone. I have a problem with my ubuntu upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10. During the update, I had a problem with the octave package, which seems to be a documented bug (bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/octave/+bug/1511022), and it basically told me that my system might be unstable and to run some dpkg reconfigure command. I tried to wait overnight to see if there is some progress as it was trying to "Process triggers for libc-bin". It's stuck at that. What should I do?

hbdgaf

TO THE SANDBOX!!! - jkjk

Zacharee1

lololololol

Seth

@Prabhpreet yikes. Is the HDD light on?

Prabhpreet

@Seth I have a laptop and it only has three lights: power, battery and caps lock :(

Seth

3:04 AM

lol. I was afraid of that. I have the same problem :/

hbdgaf

You can "feel" a hard drive spinning as long as it's not an ssd

Seth

Interesting Q:

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Q: What documentation can I remove from Ubuntu server? (e.g. manpages?)

I need an Ubuntu server with VM with networking and ssh capabilities. I have several full instances so I don't need this instance to have any documentation. Can I remove man pages without removing the packages? Are there other docs (apart from man pages) on the server?

server vm

Prabhpreet

I don't know- the cooling fan is making a louder noise. I can access all files though, so hd should be working

Zacharee1

@hbdgaf generally they always spin

@Prabhpreet I believe what they want to know is whether or not the hard drive is actually working on something (i.e. processing that libc-bin thing)

@HeatherBrown How do I set up the email thing?

Seth

@Prabhpreet Well, this is kind of a tricky situation. I suggest you ask a question on the main site to get more formal advice. That's what I'd do anyway.

Prabhpreet

3:10 AM

@Zacree1 In that case, I'm pretty sure no. It's not working on the libc thing. The system has been on the libc thing the whole night

@Seth Yeah, I'll try that. I think I found a similar situation though: askubuntu.com/questions/690654/…

Just one last question- any idea on how to abort the upgrade during "Installing the upgrades" process of the upgrade GUI?

Zacharee1

I wouldn't

You should be able to kill the process using the killall command, but it might not be a good idea

Seth

@Prabhpreet If it's still downloading there should be a cancel button, but once it actually starts the upgrade you can't, you'll break everything.

(unless there's a way it can undo the operation, but I don't think there is)

Prabhpreet

I think I'll try killall. Thanks :)

Zacharee1

You're probably going to break something

If you have no important data, oh well, just reinstall

if you have something you want to keep, don't reboot until you've backed it up

@HeatherBrown @Seth 1st draft: techyteen.net16.net/index.html

Seth

ugh, giant hosting ad?

Zacharee1

3:24 AM

uh oh

what?

Seth

there was a popup hosting add the first time I clicked the link.

Zacharee1

oh

well then I won't use that host :p

Seth

otherwise looks fine @Zacharee1, besides being obviously created through a service.

Zacharee1

@Seth html5up.net

I had to edit it

It's weird that that ad came up

I'm using 000webhost

Seth

@Zacharee1 yeah I know

Journeyman Geek

3:27 AM

@Zacharee1 000webhosts got compromised semi recently

Zacharee1

@JourneymanGeek I saw their DDoS warning

Journeyman Geek

@Zacharee1 is this a static page?

Zacharee1

I'm only using them because I needed a quick solution

@JourneymanGeek huh?

Journeyman Geek

(if its a static page, and I can remember, I could probably throw you a little hosting. hell, I wouldn't mind hosting php stuff but I'd have to work out how to fix permissions and shit)

Zacharee1

Well, I don't know what static means. Static vs what?

@HeatherBrown techyteen.net16.net/index.html

Journeyman Geek

3:30 AM

plain html vs say php

Zacharee1

I don't see any PHP

user139252

@Zacharee1 what email thing?

Zacharee1

Does that look like a good image for the Services section?

@HeatherBrown contact form

user139252

Php

user139252

And you need sendmail installed on your server

Zacharee1

3:32 AM

Oh fun

Well I guess I'll save that for another time

Prabhpreet

@Zacharee1 Killall worked! Thanks!

Seth

@Zacharee1 static meaning it's just text/images. You're not running any server side operations.

Zacharee1

@Seth I wouldn't know

@Prabhpreet Do you have any important data?

Prabhpreet

Yeah, but on a different partition

Zacharee1

@Prabhpreet OK, that's good. So now, just reinstall Ubuntu 15.10 and you should be good

Prabhpreet

3:35 AM

@Zacharee1 Will do. Thanks

user139252

@Zacharee1 if you don't have any php or JScript, it is static

Seth

@HeatherBrown JS is considered static too, iirc. it's not using server resources, and served directly to the user.

Zacharee1

Well, then it is static until I put an email thing in @JourneymanGeek

user139252

I thought some JScript was server side, no? Probably not

user139252

Yeah, @Seth, you're right

Seth

3:38 AM

naw, JS is client side :)

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown maybe JQuery? iFrame, password stuff?

what's the point of an image being royalty free if you still have to pay? grr

user139252

Ajax is server side

Seth

@Zacharee1 no strings attached.

royalty free != free.

Zacharee1

hmm

I know that

Seth

really? That answer ಠ_ಠ

Zacharee1

3:41 AM

helpful

ಠ_ಠ

Seth

\o @Rinzwind. you're here early :)

Zacharee1

ಠ_ಠ
ಠ_ಠ
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anyone know of a good free clipart site?

Rinzwind

@Seth was watchign the funeral of Lemmy :P

Seth

D:

Seth

4:01 AM

@Fabby When reviewing tag wiki edits make sure that the content is not copied verbatim from somewhere else without attribution please :)

I quick Google works.

Zacharee1

@Seth site updated with some more icons

Ignore the "Solid State" on the homepage. I need to fix that

Zacharee1

4:21 AM

The design looks nice on mobile too :D

Nathan Osman

4:35 AM

@Zacharee1 "Virus/malware removal" - does that include the flu virus? :P

I know a few people who could use that service...

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman If it's on the computer

:p

Nathan Osman

The design is nice, though.

Zacharee1

Otherwise I'd have to call up Ms. Frizzle and ask to use the schoolbus

@NathanOsman thanks

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 ...and thanks for making me feel old.

Zacharee1

:)

Nathan Osman

4:37 AM

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Q: Systemd hogs 125% of CPU, causes overheating

I will try to be quick, because I fear my system may fail again. Twice in the past half hour, my laptop overheated and shut off. The second of these times, I was using top for something and I was horrified to see systemd and systemd-journal and a few other processes like dbus message bus using o...

systemd

Nice title :P

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Dual boot pre installed Kali 2

Salutations - I have Kali Linux 2.0 (jessie) installed as main OS. I want to install Windows 8.1/10 on dual-boot. The problem I am facing is in every tutorial, Windows is the pre installed OS. What should be done now? Can someone direct me to a proper thread?

debian ubuntu windows dual-boot kali-linux

user139252

@NathanOsman you aren't old. I loved that show, too :p

Nathan Osman

5:00 AM

I watched that as a kid in the mid-90s. That makes me old :P

user139252

Me too!

user139252

We can be old together!

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Nathan Osman

edward torvalds

5:23 AM

hi guys

which display manager is required by cinnamon de ?

Nathan Osman

@Seth regarding vim:

> "I've been using vim for about 2 years now, mostly because I can't figure out how to exit it. :P"

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edward torvalds

@NathanOsman did I told you a joke about touch command?

Nathan Osman

I don't think you did.

edward torvalds

@NathanOsman what did touch command said to itself?

Nathan Osman

I don't know.

edward torvalds

5:30 AM

@NathanOsman I cannot touch myself

touch /bin/touch
touch: cannot touch ‘/bin/touch’: Permission denied

user139252

@NathanOsman I started using vim a few months ago, in place of nano. I like vim now :p

Nathan Osman

I ought to be doing that but haven't gotten around to it.

Nathan Osman

5:49 AM

A JavaScript parser written in Go.

See, I knew it would become the eventual successor to C :P

user139252

Go can import libraries that aren't locally installed?

Nathan Osman

Sort of. If a file imports a package that isn't locally available, "go get" can be used to download it.

In fact, that's the easiest way to compile most Go apps.

"go get github.com/some-person/some-app" will fetch the app's source code, all of its dependencies, and build the binary.

If the package is available locally, obviously it isn't fetched.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Editing the lsb-release information

I would like to customize Ubuntu live CD and it's mostly done , but after changing the the /etc/lsb-release file , i can't add any new repository ! So , How can i change the lsb-release to have my own id and codename like this: DISTRIB_ID=Marcolinux DISTRIB_RELEASE=1.0 DISTRIB_CODENAME=Blanka D...

ubuntu livecd

Nathan Osman

6:10 AM

Well this is an interesting commit message.

On a completely unrelated note...

If anyone wants a nice 1080p wallpaper for a dual-monitor setup, I humbly offer this.

Marc Bressman

Hey Everyone - brand new on this chat on here (although have been using AskUbuntu for a while) - are we allowed to ask technical questions in here?

Nathan Osman

Sure!

And welcome to the chat.

Marc Bressman

Thanks!

Nathan Osman

I can't promise that I'll be able to answer it but we can try :P

Marc Bressman

So anyway, I'm trying to do http to https redirects on my Ubuntu 12.04 server - I have two servers actually, and it's been working fine on one for a while, but when I went to try and do it on the other one it just doesn't seem to want to work at all - I'm using this in the apache2.conf file:

<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerName <ORIGINAL_URL>
Redirect permanent / <NEW_URL>
</VirtualHost>

Nathan Osman

6:18 AM

What do you mean by "it doesn't work" - what happens instead?

Marc Bressman

absolutely nothing - when I try to browse to the http://<URL> it just doesn't load

Nathan Osman

You have the correct syntax, so it should work.

Marc Bressman

but if I browse to the https://<URL> (which is set up with another VirtualHost entry in the apache2.conf) it works fine

Nathan Osman

Sounds like Apache isn't listening on port 80.

Marc Bressman

actually that would explain a lot

how can I get apache to listen on port 80

Nathan Osman

6:20 AM

There should be a directive "Listen 80" somewhere in apache2.conf or one of the configuration files it includes.

Is there a "Listen 8443 https" directive anywhere in the file? If SSL is working, there certainly should be.

Marc Bressman

I tried searching for "listen" in the apache2.conf file and it's nowhere to be found

maybe it's in another config file?

Nathan Osman

(By the way, this is mostly from memory since I switched from Apache to nginx a couple years ago.)

@MarcBressman It could be... let me check where the other config files are...

Marc Bressman

I found a /etc/apache2/ports.conf file

Nathan Osman

Ah, yes.

That's the one.

Marc Bressman

oh wait, it looks like it might be misconfigured - it has this: "Listen 80" while my other server has this "Listen *:80"

Nathan Osman

6:23 AM

Those two are supposed to have the same effect though.

Marc Bressman

nope, that didn't seem to do anything (after changing it and doing service apache2 restart)

Nathan Osman

Hmm... let's check and see if Apache is actually listening on the port.

Marc Bressman

ok - can you advise how to do that?

Nathan Osman

You can do that with this command:

sudo netstat -nlp | grep 80

If there is no output, it means no application is listening on the port.

Marc Bressman

I got a bunch of output

Nathan Osman

6:25 AM

Hrm.

Marc Bressman

is this what you're looking to see:

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1051/apache2

Nathan Osman

Yup.

So it is listening on the port.

It just isn't responding to requests correctly.

Now try this:

curl --verbose 'http://localhost'

Marc Bressman

ok - can I ask what that does?

Nathan Osman

That will print out HTTP headers being returned from the server for a request.

That will help us see what the server is returning when a request is made.

Marc Bressman

ok, should I enter in to this chat everything it returned - it's a bunch

Nathan Osman

6:29 AM

Maybe try this: paste.ubuntu.com

Marc Bressman

paste.ubuntu.com/14456056

Nathan Osman

So it's responding to the request with the default VirtualHost.

And opening http://localhost:80 in the browser doesn't display any text?

It should say something like "This is the default web page for this server..."

Marc Bressman

so this server is located in a remote location - but I'm VPN'ed into it - if I do http://<local server IP>:80 it works and brings up the default text

Nathan Osman

But not when you enter the domain name, correct?

Marc Bressman

let me see if I have any domain names set up that will just use the default virtual host

Nathan Osman

6:33 AM

What's in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled? Those are the VirtualHosts that are currently enabled, including the default one.

Marc Bressman

000-default -> ../sites-available/default

Nathan Osman

Is that the only file in there?

Marc Bressman

under /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, yup

Nathan Osman

Hmm... I'm afraid that's all I can think of to try.

Marc Bressman

i had used webmin initially when I was learning ubuntu, and it seems to put all the <VirtualHost> entries in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf

Nathan Osman

6:36 AM

Oh...

Marc Bressman

do you think it could be a firewall thing?

like the router firewall that the server is behind isn't letting http traffic through?

Nathan Osman

Is the server publicly accessible?

(Can it be reached directly by IP address?)

Marc Bressman

not on port 80, but on port 443

Nathan Osman

Some ISPs block port 80.

Marc Bressman

yeah, i was just thinking that

it's optimum (cablevision) and I vaguely recall when I had it a while ago I had to enable port 80 somewhere - am looking through their online settings right now - i wonder if that's it

Nathan Osman

6:38 AM

If you can access the port through a VPN but not publicly, that would be a good guess as to what's causing that.

Marc Bressman

i think that might be it - it says port 80 off - i'm turning it on right now - give me a min for it to reboot the remote cable modem

Nathan Osman

Sure.

Marc Bressman

damn, its not letting me make the changes from a remote location - maybe on the PC that is VPN'ed in it will let me - give me another min - and thanks for all your help!

Nathan Osman

No problem. Glad to do it.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: An apache server in ubunbu cannot access the folder mounted by mount a CIFS folder

I used “mount cifs” to mount a folder. According to the request of users, I need to install an apache as a http file server. Then, I use symbolic link, linked all the CIFS folder to /var/www/html I add one in /etc/fstab: “//10.11.11.11/public /CIFS cifs username=smbuser,password=smbuser,uid=www-d...

ubuntu apache samba

Marc Bressman

6:43 AM

yup - that did it!

also - just got an email that there was no powerball jackpot winner - so the estimated jackpot is now 1.3 BILLION dollars - not sure why I feel the need to type this, but it's insane!

anyway, thanks so much once again!

Nathan Osman

Glad to help.

Stop by again some time :)

Marc Bressman

thanks, take care!