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Amith KK

1:00 PM

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Octavian Damiean

It says that your OS should take the file with that name in this current directory.

Stefano Palazzo

you need a webcam that shows the display ;)

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo Uhm

How do i set that one up?

Now it shows "OMFG PYTHON"

Marco Ceppi

@WilliamHilsum Because / is the root, so you're not going from the current directory, but rather the top of the file system, it's like typing C:\Folder\Folder\File.exe only it's /Folder/Folder/File

Now, to blow your mind a little: You don't need /etc/init.d - try just service ssh stop

Stefano Palazzo

@AmithKK if you've got one lying around, that should be pretty easy

Amith KK

1:01 PM

@StefanoPalazzo I have one

Stefano Palazzo

just have a script that saves pictures to the web-server

with the same filename, then put an <img> tag on the page

Octavian Damiean

@MarcoCeppi You're mean. :D

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo It will replace the image every 1 second?

Stefano Palazzo

how ever often you like

William Hilsum

@MarcoCeppi and @OctavianDamiean Sorry, I get that / is root folder, but, in Windows, if I was in the directory, a local .exe file would take preference over the path - so, I just don't get why the /usr/bin/ssh is taking preference over the local ssh file

ahh... I just need to learn this, if that is how it works, that is how it works! I can't change anything - just got to adapt to it! ... need to shut up and get on!!!

Stefano Palazzo

1:04 PM

sudo apt-get install streamer
streamer -f jpeg -o ~/image.jpeg

Marco Ceppi

@WilliamHilsum Because of ambiguity, Windows says local trumps environment. On linux, path trumps local :)

Stefano Palazzo

and have the second command run every second (or however often), either via a bash script or a cron job (I recommend the bash script)

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo Heh, I can haz script?

And how do i make it refrest the pic every 1 sec?

Octavian Damiean

@WilliamHilsum Also, /usr/bin/ssh is a binary which is executed and what is inside of /etc/init.d/ is a shell script which just controls the ssh daemon. :)

Stefano Palazzo

while true; do streamer -f jpeg -o ~/image.jpeg ; sleep 2; done

Octavian Damiean

1:07 PM

meh, beat me to it.

Stefano Palazzo

and then you can hit Ctrl+Z to put it in the background, type "bg" to make it start again, then type "disown -a" before you close the terminal, so that it will keep running

Marco Ceppi

Could run bg too

But I don't think that disowns it

Stefano Palazzo

whoopsie, yes

corrected. Ctrl+Z will stop the process

Amith KK

O.o

Im gettting my tvtuner output

Octavian Damiean

hehe

You just created a streaming tv service. Congratulations.

Amith KK

1:10 PM

Really, how can i do it

Stefano Palazzo

looks like streamer will just grab /dev/video0

Amith KK

Octavian Damiean

I'm sure you can tell streamer which input device it should take.

Stefano Palazzo

streamer -c /dev/video1 -f jpeg -o ~/image.jpeg

this could work

Octavian Damiean

\o/ works.

Amith KK

1:13 PM

The problem now is it turns off and turns on the webcam every second

Therefore the webcam has no time to init

Marco Ceppi

Maybe you should increase the rate at which it takes a snapshot

Stefano Palazzo

it can turn off?

Amith KK

yes

still I get black

@MarcoCeppi Its taking one as soon as the webcam turns on(which it cant do)

Stefano Palazzo

cloning the vm seems to work, I wish there was an option to make 8 clones at once

it takes a couple of minutes

William Hilsum

@MarcoCeppi Now you said that, that makes a lot of sense!

@OctavianDamiean Thanks

Octavian Damiean

1:17 PM

@AmithKK I'm in your webcam watching you!

Amith KK

yeah.. right

Stefano Palazzo

@AmithKK try adding this to the streamer command: -s 640x480

at the very end will work, after "image.jpeg"

there you go, that works

nice!

Octavian Damiean

Now mount the cam to be in a fixed position.

Stefano Palazzo

no unicode? :P

Amith KK

How can i increase the brightness?

Marco Ceppi

1:24 PM

Ah, interesting

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo No, I cant fit all of the chars onto the SUPER small memory

Octavian Damiean

Hmm. :(

:O Gnome-Shell!

Amith KK

@OctavianDamiean ??

Octavian Damiean

Isn't that Gnome-Shell?

Amith KK

No, its XFCE

lol

Octavian Damiean

1:27 PM

Oh.

Amith KK

FORTRAN time?

Marco Ceppi

What is this?

Amith KK

Stopped output

send

BBT

rlemon

1:48 PM

I know i'm in AskUbuntu but is anyone here a FreeBSD junkie??

Oli

Anybody have any experience forwarding incoming email to one server onto an external mailbox? I've been playing around with postfix's virtual_alias_domains but this just bounces the emails (so if there's a SPF record, GMail et al drops it as spam). I'm looking for a way to forward each message as if it were sent by the server, rather than bouncing.

Octavian Damiean

@rlemon You may want to visit Unix and Linux.

rlemon

ahh, was looking for that site - must have scrolled right past it (I was also searching for that BSD keyword)

ok, now anyone wanna join the chat and help me out :P lol

Octavian Damiean

lol

rlemon

i kid... well not really but kinda

Stefano Palazzo

2:10 PM

@rlemon what does one of these cost?

William Hilsum

2:22 PM

Right... I have changed the IP on one machine, and done "service ssh stop" then "service ssh start" and I still can't connect in... What have I done wrong? I am pretty sure the IP is working as I can now ping it, but, I can't work out what I need to do to bind SSH to it? :/

Marco Ceppi

2:35 PM

@WilliamHilsum Is the port open?

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Stefano Palazzo

2:48 PM

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Jorge Castro

ta!

William Hilsum

@MarcoCeppi Yes, certain it is open, I just changed the IP on three machines, and, it dropped me off of SSH instantly (of course), but, I can't seem to work out how to restart SSH on the new IP.. I am certain it is unblocked

William Hilsum

3:26 PM

... I just tried changing the IP via ifconfig, but, it resets upon the machine rebooting... I thought ifconfig would do something similar and make it permanent, but, is it via /etc/network/interfaces then?

Marco Ceppi

@WilliamHilsum I believe so

It's been a while since I've needed to hard-code ip addresses on Ubuntu servers

Stefano Palazzo

@WilliamHilsum help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html

the server guide is absolutely excellent

you can just change the URL, swap out 10.04 for 11.10, as well

if you're not at Ask Mark, you're missing out :D

> <sabdfl> vala is ok. Go is the future.

Octavian Damiean

Hehe

Where he is right he is right.

Stefano Palazzo

3:43 PM

this was in response to a question saying that people are moving from python to vala

keeps calm

people might take it seriously (:

William Hilsum

@StefanoPalazzo Not sure I can get on to IRC from work :( I just need to get HAProxy working! (This is what the whole project is about!) ... but, been meaning to learn Ubuntu/Linux for years, ... so... doing it all at once!

Stefano Palazzo

don't worry about the IRC then. you're not going to care about most of the questions if you're not pretty well invested in the ubuntu community

he said boldy

but you should definitely have a look at the Server Guide, it's the best place to start.

William Hilsum

@StefanoPalazzo ... Well, I want to be! If you don't know me, look at my SE profile - I happily help people/get involved, but, I have just never known enough about Linux to be here! If I had the knowledge, I would be here every day!... just... I don't have it yet!

Stefano Palazzo

don't worry about that. you'll be fluent in a couple of weeks if you keep going like that ;)

rlemon

hey all,

Marco Ceppi

3:55 PM

@StefanoPalazzo Is there any way to tell if a hash is a sha1 or md5sum ?

rlemon

how do i get a list of connected serial devices, is this possible with a console command?

Marco Ceppi

@rlemon Do they show up in lsusb ?

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi yes, a sha1 hash is 40 hex characters, an md5 hash is 32 (20 bytes / 16 bytes)

Marco Ceppi

What other types of hashes are out there that are used for file checks?

Stefano Palazzo

I'd use sha256 (a variant of the "sha2" suite, also includes sha224, sha384 and sha512)

Marco Ceppi

3:58 PM

So, how can I tell, from a hash, what algo was used? or can I?

Stefano Palazzo

only by their length,

rlemon

@MarcoCeppi nope, but I didn't expect it too. I have a motherboard setup, I want to see If I can write to the CF on it from my linux box via serial / terminal

Stefano Palazzo

the sha2 hashes are 56, 64, 96 or 128 characters long

Marco Ceppi

each has a unique length?

rlemon

don't even know if thats possible.

William Hilsum

3:59 PM

Ok... I screwed up file permissions! I modified /etc/network/interfaces on one machine perfectly, I typed it up on another then forgot to sudo first, so, I saved it to a temp file then sudo replaced the real one with it... but... I think I mixed up permissions

Stefano Palazzo

there are also other types of hashes, like RIPEMD160, Whirlpool, Skein, ...

you never really know

but md5, sha1 and sha256 are like 90% of what you'll find in the wild

William Hilsum

I don't mind fixing it myself, but, what do I need to type on the real one to see what I need to make it to? I tried CHMOD, but, I can only set, not see what they currently are (unless I missed that switch?)

Marco Ceppi

I'm just going to use the 90%

rlemon

@StefanoPalazzo you know that setup I sent you?

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi if you develop something new, and you have a choice, always use sha256. it'll be secure for quite a while. whereas sha1 is on the brink of being broken (a couple of years perhaps)

Marco Ceppi

4:00 PM

@StefanoPalazzo I'm not, I'm trying to write a bash function

Stefano Palazzo

@rlemon first time I've seen one. and I want one now! :)

rlemon

Is it possible to connect something like that to my Linux box via serial port and write to the CF on the system?

I don't want to have to take out my CF, re-write it from my pc, then plug er back in.

Stefano Palazzo

phew, no idea. maybe the manufacturer will sell you an expensive piece of cable for that

rlemon

Or do I need some underlying code to communicate back with linux... yea, nevermind. stupid question.

Stefano Palazzo

you can get these USB flash cables for some serious enterprise mainboards,

Amith KK

4:03 PM

Hey all

Stefano Palazzo

they're pretty pricey. maybe the manufacturer of this thing sells something similar

and they typically come with software (the idea is: you plug in the cable, hit one button, and it does the rest automatically. so that you can deploy 20 boards quickly)

or so I heard

Amith KK

CompactFlash?

Stefano Palazzo

<sabdfl> yes, i agree, we need a new icon theme
 we have agreed to do a proper study on iconography, with the university of reading

hooray

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo on which channel?

Stefano Palazzo

@AmithKK you're in the right place, but you've just missed it

it ended a minute ago :)

irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/11/23/%23ubuntu-classroom.html ← logs are already online

Amith KK

4:08 PM

@StefanoPalazzo Thanks

Marco Ceppi

type_hash()
{
        local DIRTY="$1"

        case $DIRTY in
                *[![:xdigit:]]* | "" )
                        echo false
                        return 1
                ;;
                * )
                        case ${#DIRTY} in
                                ( 32 )
                                        echo md5
                                ;;
                                ( 40 )
                                        echo sha1
                                ;;
                                ( 64 )

Stefano Palazzo

if it's calling "sha1sum", won't that give you the filename on the same line?

~:$ sha1sum test.py
0d1f0b2262d8d852c5662f90047d5a9579851f40  test.py

Amith KK

4:25 PM

voicedbox.wordpress.com

Its Online!

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo This assumes you're just passing it a hash

Amith KK

Hey @RolandTaylor

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo when you finish victory chat's release, we need a charm for it

also, someone made a generic django charm

Roland Taylor

@AmithKK hi

Amith KK

@JorgeCastro Agree!

Stefano Palazzo

4:28 PM

looks good. it might not be right every time, but that's fine as long as you know about it. the other types of hashes are really rare at the moment

Amith KK

@MarcoCeppi JuJu doesent work here

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro You might have seen me and Octavian trying to install VictoryChat. it was seriously complicated

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro Tell @Oli he uses Django all the time

@AmithKK What doesn't work?

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo it's ok, we only have to figure it out ONCE.

:)

@MarcoCeppi let's get Oli writin' some charms

Stefano Palazzo

absolutely :)

Jorge Castro

4:29 PM

charm school next friday!

6

Amith KK

@MarcoCeppi George pinged you a few days ago

Jorge Castro

be there!

or be square!

Octavian Damiean

Alright, let's learn Go. :)

Stefano Palazzo

Hopefully +Ask Ubuntu will remind everyone before it starts :)

Marco Ceppi

@AmithKK I've talked to him since, it seems to be resolved

Octavian Damiean

4:33 PM

All those job offers to develop Windows applications ... STOP BUGGING ME WITH THAT STUFF!! I don't care!

Amith KK

Nov 20 at 4:39, by Amith KK

JuJu error:
  error: Failed to start network default
 error: internal error Child process (dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/libvirt/network/default.pid --conf-file= --except-interface lo --listen-address 192.168.122.1 --dhcp-range 192.168.122.2,192.168.122.254 --dhcp-leasefile=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.leases --dhcp-lease-max=253 --dhcp-no-override) status unexpected: exit status 2

    Command '['virsh', 'net-start', 'default']' returned non-zero exit status 1

Octavian Damiean

Yup, that is a known problem.

Amith KK

Fix?

@JorgeCastro Want a logo?

Stefano Palazzo

> This tutorial gets you started with juju. A prerequisite is the access credentials to a dedicated computing environment such as what is offered by a virtualized cloud hosting environment.

is that so?

I don't have any of that, nor the requirements that follow

Amith KK

:( Am I the only one without an EC2

I NEED

CREDIT CARD!

Stefano Palazzo

4:40 PM

I suppose you could set up a private cloud made of VMs

Octavian Damiean

@AmithKK Why would you be the only one without, I don't use EC2.

Stefano Palazzo

but it also says "For the moment, though, the only environment supported is EC2."

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo Not too much power here?

Marco Ceppi

Could use local

Octavian Damiean

Indeed!

Amith KK

4:41 PM

@OctavianDamiean You can

Oli

Yeah another non-EC2er here. Linode FTW.

Amith KK

Icanhaz free linode plz?

Stefano Palazzo

so is there a JuJu tutorial that doesn't require me to buy a bunch of servers?

apologies for my ignorance, I'm looking into it for the first time (:

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo You have a credit card?

Stefano Palazzo

I have a card, it's the other part of that which might be a bit problematic. "credit". :D

William Hilsum

4:43 PM

Follow up : chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2513955#2513955 : ^^ I have done both chgrp and chown on the file, and it still isn't working :/ Not sure what I have done wrong :/ Anyone know? (or worthy of a proper question?)

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo Get the EC2 Free for one year

Octavian Damiean

@AmithKK Yea free one year if you choose a contract for at least two, right?

Stefano Palazzo

well I also have access to an ec2 machine, and I have a VPS, but I'd really rather do everything locally at first. all of these machines are busy and mustn't be disturbed. they might get angry.

Alvar

I just got to say that @OctavianDamiean is one of the most awesome names ever! it sounds like a vampire! :D

Amith KK

@OctavianDamiean No, I dont think so

Octavian Damiean

4:46 PM

You mean this? aws.amazon.com/free

Amith KK

@OctavianDamiean Yes

Marco Ceppi

@OctavianDamiean Still need to put a credit card on the account

Octavian Damiean

Yea.

Marco Ceppi

For charm development ou can simply setup a local provider

Octavian Damiean

Which is what I tried. If only there wouldn't be that bug.

Marco Ceppi

4:47 PM

juju.ubuntu.com/CharmSchool

Stefano Palazzo

cool, I think that's what I want

Octavian Damiean

Yea. I was trying to do that but apt-get suddenly decided to break.

Now I have to fix apt-get.

Marco Ceppi

ah

Stefano Palazzo

I'll remember to make a snapshot of the clean VM.

Octavian Damiean

I wish I would've done that.

Amith KK

4:51 PM

amith@amith-desktop:~$ juju bootstrap
2011-11-23 22:20:44,501 INFO Bootstrapping environment 'local' (type: local)...
2011-11-23 22:20:44,502 INFO Checking for required packages...
2011-11-23 22:20:45,179 INFO Starting networking...
error: Failed to start network default
error: internal error Child process (dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/libvirt/network/default.pid --conf-file= --except-interface lo --listen-address 192.168.122.1 --dhcp-range 192.168.122.2,192.168.122.254 --dhcp-leasefile=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.leases --dhcp-lease-max=253 --dhcp-no-ov…

htorque

hi! can anyone please run "sudo dpkg -S /usr/bin/ftp"?

Octavian Damiean

@AmithKK I said this is a known issue.

juju.ubuntu.com/CharmSchool

Amith KK

How can I fix it

dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/ftp.

Octavian Damiean

Follow the steps in the Necessary Software - For attendees section.

htorque

@AmithKK thanks

Amith KK

4:52 PM

@OctavianDamiean Did that Before

Octavian Damiean

Trolol! The apt-get problem is gone.

Without me doing something!

Amith KK

try.cloud.ubuntu.com

Stefano Palazzo

yikes, juju install 142 packages

among them x11-common. that can't be right

it's probably java or something. oh well.

Amith KK

I have 50 minutes

ec2-174-129-151-108.compute-1.amazonaws.com/FrontPage

ubuntu@ip-10-12-15-185:~$ mkdir .juju
mkdir: cannot create directory `.juju': File exists
ubuntu@ip-10-12-15-185:~$ rm -rf .juju/u
ubuntu@ip-10-12-15-185:~$ juju bootstrap
2011-11-23 17:07:53,389 INFO Bootstrapping environment 'local' (type: local)...
2011-11-23 17:07:53,390 INFO Checking for required packages...
2011-11-23 17:07:54,030 INFO Starting networking...
Network default defined from /tmp/tmpYygdX9

error: Failed to start network default
error: internal error Network is already in use by interface virbr0

Oh, It doesent work there too?

Octavian Damiean

5:11 PM

It worked for me.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:juju/pkgs
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install juju charm-tools apt-cacher-ng zookeeper libvirt-bin lxc

This is important!

Amith KK

@OctavianDamiean Did that!

Octavian Damiean

This is impossible. The bug fix for just that problem is in that PPA.

Stefano Palazzo

I'm getting the same error

Amith KK

ok..

Stefano Palazzo

says "Network is already in use by interface virbr0"

could that have something to do with it running inside a virtual machine?

Octavian Damiean

5:14 PM

Log out and log back in.

Stefano Palazzo

right, forgot about that

I'll reboot for good measure

Octavian Damiean

No need to.

Amith KK

amith@amith-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install juju charm-tools apt-cacher-ng zookeeper libvirt-bin lxc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
apt-cacher-ng is already the newest version.
zookeeper is already the newest version.
libvirt-bin is already the newest version.
lxc is already the newest version.
charm-tools is already the newest version.
juju is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:

Stefano Palazzo

the last message was this:

SSH authorized/public key not found.
2011-11-23 18:16:47,716 ERROR SSH authorized/public key not found.

it was very quick, about 20 seconds. now it says "environment is already bootstrapped"

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo That means you don't have an id_rsa.pub file

Octavian Damiean

5:17 PM

Yup.

Stefano Palazzo

am I good to go ?

Amith KK

It works there....

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi I do now

ran "ssh-keygen" after the (failed?) bootstrap

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ensemble/+question/172588

Amith KK

@OctavianDamiean Still doesent work

Octavian Damiean

5:18 PM

Run a juju destroy-environment

Then bootstrap again.

Amith KK

Still the same error?

Octavian Damiean

@AmithKK Well you have a problem with your apt repositories apparently.

Try to fix that.

Stefano Palazzo

great, thanks marco & octavian

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro cool thanks

Jorge Castro

5:22 PM

Our fearless leader at work:

photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Precise/…

2

Marco Ceppi

just got a half day at work

Amith KK

BBT

Jorge Castro

Charms, AU, and beer: photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Precise/…

actually, that was our editing frenzy iirc

Marco Ceppi

yeah, during the MythTV Import

Octavian Damiean

hehe

Marco Ceppi

5:23 PM

I had forgotten about these

photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Precise/…

Incognito

Anyone familiar with gitweb here?

I'm trying to set it up, but it wont identify my repos.

Octavian Damiean

Just told my LoCo about the charm school.

Hopefully I can get them to join.

Incognito

Disregard-- problem solved. Apache permissions.

Octavian Damiean

Nice.

Jorge Castro

Ads are much easier when you use inkscape, heh

I need someone to make an ubuntu app developer week one if someone is looking for something to do

Stefano Palazzo

5:32 PM

what do I type after juju deploy --repository?

Jorge Castro

you need a charm

install charm tools

sorry, charm-tools

Stefano Palazzo

I think I've got all of that

juju deploy --repository=charms/oneiric/mysql/ mysql

gives me this error:

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo the repository is the charms/ folder

Stefano Palazzo

DNS lookup failed: address 'store.juju.ubuntu.com' not found: [Errno -2] Name or service not known.
2011-11-23 18:33:20,549 ERROR DNS lookup failed: address 'store.juju.ubuntu.com' not found: [Errno -2] Name or service not known.

Marco Ceppi

it'll pick distro and folder based on the charm name

Jorge Castro

5:34 PM

juju deploy --repository . local:mysql

Marco Ceppi

and you need to use local:mysql :)

Jorge Castro

from your charms dir.

Stefano Palazzo

ah

Jorge Castro

for 12.04 it will just be

Marco Ceppi

so juju deploy --repository=charms/ local:mysql

Jorge Castro

5:34 PM

juju deploy cs:mysql

Stefano Palazzo

that worked, thanks :)

ERROR Ambiguous relation 'mediawiki mysql'; could refer to: ...

this is really helpful

Marco Ceppi

mediawiki mysql:db

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I implemented a few installations of mediawiki in a parent folder called: /var/wiki I was alerted this morning that the wikis are no longer working. Upon a little research, the /var/wiki folder is gone. Is there any Linux-based reason why this folder would be removed? If not, I'll look at ho...

Jorge Castro

ouch

@MarcoCeppi hey, I got that same ambiguous relation error yesterday

Marco Ceppi

yeah, it's because MySQL charm has two mysql interfaces, db and db-admin

So you need to tell it which interface to use, admin-db or just db

Octavian Damiean

5:38 PM

Dude, juju is so awesome.

Stefano Palazzo

sorry to keep asking these questions guys

status now says "pending", what do I need to do next?

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo You're done :)

It's waiting on provider to boot up the machines

then it'll run the charms

after a few minutes the status will change to either error out, or completion

if you have a big enough screen you could do this: watch -n 15 "juju status"

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Stefano Palazzo

how nice is that

thanks again

Marco Ceppi

np!

Jorge Castro

5:40 PM

@MarcoCeppi ok so on the two interfaces, I wonder why I was getting those errors

Stefano Palazzo

(terminator -> ctrl+-, if you don't have a large screen)

Marco Ceppi

[MySQL Charm]
    provides:
      db:
        interface: mysql
      db-admin:
        interface: mysql

So it doesn know which one you want to create a relationship for

Really what should happen, juju should see which interfaces the charm is requesting. Since mediawiki and thinkup don't have a db-admin interface requirement it should just use db and only show that message when there are two requirement interfaces with the same names

George Edison

So everything works now?

Octavian Damiean

Stupid question. How long can it take until the status changes from pending?

Stefano Palazzo

I was about to ask that too :)

Marco Ceppi

5:45 PM

It depends on the provider

if it's ec2 it can take a little bit of time

For local?

A lot of time.

Oh, that's probably

:)

I see.

5:46 PM

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Q: How do I configure juju for local usage?

I'm too cheap to pay for EC2, and I don't have enough servers to set up my own openstack, how do I configure juju to use Linux Containers (LXC) on something like my laptop?

juju lxc

Jorge Castro

local will be alot the first time

lazyPower

Dont know if anybody saw this yet, but its really neat. Graphical representation of sorting algorithms cs.uwaterloo.ca/~bwbecker/sortingDemo/index.html

Stefano Palazzo

this answers all my previous questions doh

Jorge Castro

after it caches the stuff it'll be faster the 2nd time

Octavian Damiean

How did I miss that question?

Stefano Palazzo

5:48 PM

okay, in that case I'll have some dinner while juju is thinking. like a real sysadmin ;-)

Octavian Damiean

heh

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