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Serg

7:04 PM

Back. Well, smoking is not a good habbit and I plan to quit eventually. But so far I enjoy the flavors.

Plus it gets my blood rushing , so helps me shake up a bit

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Q: logrotate every 2 hours

I'm trying to make httpry logs every 2 hours. I added this to my logrotate.conf file: /var/log/httpry/*.log { rotate 1 weekly create 640 root admin missingok notifempty } I tried changing weekly to hourly (still need every 2 hours), but it doesn't work. I read to copy a scr...

RPi Awesomeness

@Serg Nicotine gum?

@Serg Exercise does the same thing, win win there :D

Byte Commander

Anybody in apt-get fixing mood today?

Mine makes problems: askubuntu.com/q/656581/367990

Serg

Nah, nicotine gum won't be necessary - if I set my mind to quitting , I won't need any nicotine at all. Just have to choose a day and do it. As for exercise, that's a good one ! I've read Eminem replaced his addiction with exercise , so he both lost weight and got rid of addiction. I'm pretty skinny already, 155 pounds, but i wouldn't mind some extra inches on my biceps :)

RPi Awesomeness

Indeed. I need to get going again, this family move has been a real troublemaker for exercise space :P

Serg

7:14 PM

@ByteCommander try doing sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* and run apt-get update again

RPi Awesomeness

imgur.com/8brHKaV < RIP car

quake120

Haha. Owned. I wonder what happened

Serg

@RPiAwesomeness ouch . . . . I doubt insurance covers that

Byte Commander

@Serg Does not work because of contained directories...

quake120

I saw some video once that people had made while intentionally crashing their minivan into a pole to try to collect insurance money...They posted it on the internet

Serg

7:15 PM

@ByteCommander contained directories ? you mean the "partial" directory ?

quake120

Insurance company (somehow) found it

Byte Commander

Yes.

RPi Awesomeness

imgur.com/gallery/I8u2G <-- Yeesh...I'm rethinking getting Windows 10...

user136984

@A.B.: This is probably something for you. :)

Serg

As long as you delete files there , it should be alright. This trick helped couple of times when apt-get throws errors

quake120

7:17 PM

@RPiAwesomeness I've been asked a few times if I've upgraded to Windows 10 and my response so far has been 'Nope, haven't had a reason to boot out of Linux yet :)'

Byte Commander

@Serg So I run it recursive (-r switch)?

Serg

@ByteCommander no,no,no, no recursive

Byte Commander

but what instead?

RPi Awesomeness

@quake120 Exactly

Serg

just delete the files. You can leave that partial directory alone.

rm: cannot remove ‘/var/lib/apt/lists/partial’: Is a directory

Ignore that

Byte Commander

7:19 PM

If I run your command, it blocks, because it finds that directory. :-(

It does not delete any file.

Serg

Hmmm, ok . . . Let me think

Byte Commander

sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*.* maybe?

user136984

@ByteCommander: I've commented on your question by the way. :)

quake120

Microsoft can use your bandwidth to do updates peer-to-peer it sounds like... WTH

This is why I use Linux

Byte Commander

rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*

Serg

7:22 PM

@ByteCommander those files don't have . and extension

Byte Commander

They do.

Serg

oO

Byte Commander

Most have .tar.bz2 or things like that.

No, just .bz2 or .xz

Serg

Most of my files are like : us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_universe_source_Sources

Byte Commander

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  8294644 Apr 24 20:39 ftp.uni-stuttgart.de_ubuntu_dists_vivid_main_binary-i386_Packages.bz2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3456337 Okt 28  2014 ftp.uni-stuttgart.de_ubuntu_dists_vivid_main_i18n_Translation-de.bz2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4235430 Apr 23 17:50 ftp.uni-stuttgart.de_ubuntu_dists_vivid_main_i18n_Translation-en.bz2

Just a little extract...

Mateo

7:23 PM

@RPiAwesomeness so they are doing p2p updates?

RPi Awesomeness

Maker Faire Detroit 2015!

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BABAM

user139252

sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/ && sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists/partial maybe?

user139252

Are we trying to get rid of all files in a directory?

Serg

sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -type f -name "*" -exec rm {} +

RPi Awesomeness

Crap. I need flash don't I.

RIP ME

user139252

7:24 PM

Why not just delete and remake the directory?

Serg

@HeatherBrown that's also an alternative

user139252

@RPiAwesomeness Nobody needs flash

RPi Awesomeness

@HeatherBrown Well, for youtube I do :P

Byte Commander

So why not recursive deleting then?

user139252

@RPiAwesomeness HTML 5?

Byte Commander

7:25 PM

That would be the same.

Serg

@ByteCommander yes, just do that, sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists and then sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists

not even mkdir

user139252

I'm smart :)

Serg

I removed it recursivelly and ran update again

user139252

Oh, not smart. Suggested extra. Stupid me. D=

Serg

lists dir created again

with apt-get update

user139252

7:27 PM

Oh, yeah. Makes sense.

Byte Commander

Now apt-get update takes a while...

:-( No change.

Still hanging.

Serg

still hangs ?

user139252

So, we have this girl subbing for one of our teachers today... She decided to spend her lunch practicing her violin.... Why? :(

Serg

@HeatherBrown because she likes music more than teaching ?

user136984

@ByteCommander: Do you get anything like this when trying to do other stuff with APT?

user139252

7:29 PM

@Serg But music is something you practice at home, away from the public, when you haven't been doing it long.

Serg

@ByteCommander Ok, which repository it hangs on ?

user136984

Perhaps you should try to reinstall APT.

user139252

sudo apt-get remove apt-get

user136984

Although that may not go well if you try to purge it with itself... :D

Serg

@ParanoidPanda sudo apt-get install --reinstall apt-get ? apt-ception !!! :D i don't think that's a good idea tho, probably he has some bad repository

user136984

7:30 PM

@HeatherBrown: It may be a config file problem, so purging would be better than removing I think in this case.

user139252

@ParanoidPanda I know, I was just showing the paradox :D

Byte Commander

@Serg No repository. After that!

user136984

@Serg: Yes, is it possible to purge all config files and then recreate them if you are doing is with the reinstall flag?

user139252

Just reinstall Ubuntu.

Serg

@HeatherBrown I haven't been good at chinese, but it helped me to get out and practice it with people on my campus. We all need exposure somewhere

Byte Commander

7:31 PM

You know how I can capture that status line at the bottom?

RPi Awesomeness

@HeatherBrown Make sure you do sudo apt-get install -d --reinstall apt-get prior to sudo apt-get purge apt-get ;)

user139252

PrntScr

RPi Awesomeness

It'll download the apt-get package prior to it being purged, 'cause it sure won't work after :P

Serg

@ByteCommander can you run apt-get update and just post whatever you have in terminal to paste.ubuntu.com ? Probably won't be that useful, but maybe someone notices something

Byte Commander

No, I mean how can I redirect the output to a file including those updating/disappearing infos.

user139252

7:33 PM

command > textfile.txt

Byte Commander

No, that does not work.

user139252

Oh.

Byte Commander

It only writes to the file what stays visible in the terminal anyway.

I might have to filter out backspace-like characters maybe?

Don't know how that kind of output works...

user139252

Yeah, possibly. I'm not sure entirely how it handles that output..

Serg

@ByteCommander so it hangs on random repositories ? not one in particular, right ?

Byte Commander

7:36 PM

It hangs after the repositories.

user139252

Let it sit for an hour.

Byte Commander

You know how I can record it to a animated gif maybe?

I think you did not get what I mean...

Serg

@ByteCommander yes you can record it with byzanz

@ByteCommander so it hangs after the lines :

Fetched 23.0 MB in 1min 47s (213 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done

Byte Commander

No, before that.

After it writes the list of Get/Hit/Ign.

Then there's in the last line dynamic information about what it does.

user139252

Who wants to take a look at this and tell me whether or not they approve of how my students are doing this?

Byte Commander

7:39 PM

Like "100% [Translation_en]" and stuff like that.

Serg

Ooo, python. Somebody get Jacob here

user139252

I feel like they could have shortened it down a bit

user136984

@Seth: When submitting a patch you are meant to provide a "regression potential" section, but what does this mean exactly? How can you test, or know what potential regressions there are? What are you meant to put in this section? Are there any guides on this? :)

Seth

Where are you reading this?

Serg

@ByteCommander how about sudo apt-get check ? That's supposed to be a diagnostic tool for apt-get

user139252

7:47 PM

sudo apt-get panic-mode

user139252

Don't try that, it's not real

Serg

No wonder i didn't find that in the man page, which i am reading right now

user139252

Me too, I just like having fun :).

user139252

@ByteCommander So, how long does it hang on that last line? Or is it indefinitely?

user139252

All of the repo's run through without a problem?

Serg

7:51 PM

@HeatherBrown hehe, as long as the jokes don't go as far as making someone remove their root directory - that's all nice and dandy :D little bit of fun every once in a while should be good for health . . .maybe . . .

user139252

I promise to never pull a Terdon :p

Byte Commander

@Serg No output for "check" except the standard "reading package list... etc"

Serg

@HeatherBrown Ooooh, so you know that story

Byte Commander

@HeatherBrown It did not continue yet past that line. AT least 15 minutes or so.

user139252

I was around, though my name was a little different.

user139252

7:52 PM

You could try, like I said, letting it run for at least an hour...

user139252

Maybe.

Byte Commander

I tried to byzanz-record it, but I can't.

It creates so heavy HDD access that it slows the entire update down to probably 20x the normal time.

Can't I record to RAM and write when finished to disk?

LANG=C byzanz-record --x=40 --y=40 --width=1100 --height=800 -e "sudo apt-get update" out.gif

Serg

@Bytecommander ok, there is alternative. Command called script

so run script first like script record.txt, that will record everything you do in terminal

Byte Commander

Yes?

Serg

hold on

$ script record.txt
Script started, file is record.txt
You will pass away very quickly.

$ echo hello world
hello world

$ exitScript done, file is record.txt

$ cat record.txt
Script started on Tue 04 Aug 2015 01:54:15 PM MDT
You will pass away very quickly.

$ echo hello world
hello world

$ exit
Script done on Tue 04 Aug 2015 01:54:23 PM MDT

$

user139252

7:55 PM

I don't get that "You will pass away very quickly" bit...

user139252

Are you threatening me?

Byte Commander

There is a command like that preinstalled? Cool!

Serg

@HeatherBrown I have 'fortune' command in my .mkshrc

it runs on every terminal opening

@ByteCommander surprisingly yes

user139252

@Serg It still does not capture that dynamic line

Byte Commander

I wonder if it will capture the dynamic output.

Not?

Damn.

Serg

7:57 PM

@ByteCommander what dynamic line are we talking about ?

user139252

I just tried it with a working apt-get update. Nothing showed up. Just the last update on it.

Byte Commander

That is what I try to describe to you!

user139252

@Serg the last bit that tells you what it's currently working on.

user139252

Mostly says "waiting for headers"

Byte Commander

No, it captures those lines!

user139252

7:58 PM

Mine didn't D=

Byte Commander

But it has many ^M symbols in it...

I'm copying to pastebin...

Terrance

pastebin did that to me too.

user139252

pastebin.com/4veu5wzQ

user139252

Pastebin?

Serg

>_< i should start learning python somehow , everybody around seems to be using it more and moar

Byte Commander

8:03 PM

Finally! pastebin.com/tsacPJ9C

Gedit crashed when trying to open it...

Had to cat | xsel -ib

You see what I mean now?

Serg

I see. Weird

Byte Commander

No more ideas?

Can I try reinstalling apt-get with aptitude?

Both depend on apt, but not on each other, I think...

Serg

Both depend on dpkg if I'm not mistaken

Byte Commander

So you think it's worth a try?

Serg

Give me a minute ok ?

Byte Commander

8:12 PM

Sure, i'll wait.

Serg

Bad idea

$ apt-cache show apt | awk '/Depends/'
apt-cache show apt | awk '/Depends/'
+ awk /Depends/
+ apt-cache show apt
Depends: libapt-pkg4.12 (>= 0.9.16), libc6 (>= 2.15), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), ubuntu-keyring, gnupg
Depends: libapt-pkg4.12 (>= 0.9.16), libc6 (>= 2.15), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), ubuntu-keyring, gnupg
Depends: libapt-pkg4.12 (>= 0.9.16), libc6 (>= 2.15), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), ubuntu-keyring, gnupg
Depends: libapt-pkg4.12 (>= 0.9.16), libc6 (>= 2.15), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), ubuntu-keyring, gnupg

libc6 is one of the depends

I suggest sudo apt-get install --reinstall apt

and reboot

Byte Commander

apt package provides apt-get?

hbdgaf

@Seth I prefer this one humorhub.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/…

Byte Commander

I did sudo aptitude reinstall apt now and reboot. BRB

Serg

Sigh . . . so many fails and so many good moments . . . . and so much trash too -_-' I used to draw and I have like gigabytes of just pictures of other people's drawings that i would just go on google or baidu and binge-save

user136984

8:24 PM

@A.B.: Do you have any ideas about this? :)

user136984

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Q: Laptop suddenly refusing to suspend on lid close

It was working just fine earlier today, and in fact I have never had a problem with it before, but now when I close the lid of my laptop, nothing happens, when I open it back up again, not even the locked screen do I get... Although when I close the lid it does blank the screen, but does nothing ...

gnome suspend laptop power-management

Serg

@ParanoidPanda Try looking into file /etc/systemd/logind.conf and uncomment line #HandleLidSwitch=suspend.

Terrance

@ParanoidPanda I would love to help you on that one, but Ubuntu won't run on my laptop. Stupid video drivers won't work. :(

Serg

8:42 PM

So . . .I'm deleting like whole bunch of software from my win 7 . Kinda feel sad, but it has to be done. My win 7 needs a makeover

user136984

@Serg: Why has that been commented out in the first place? Or is that not what would have changed, but a back up option of some sort?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda that was commended in 14.04. Now that you have 15.04 , it runs on systemd. Thus, systemd reads that file and goes "Oh, it's commented out, so I'm not gonna do it." At least that's my theory on how it works. 15.04 really breaks a lot of things with the whole switch to systemd instead of upstart

user136984

@Serg: Ok, I have edited that file, do I have to restart now to apply the changes or something?

Serg

I'd say yes

user136984

Ok...

Serg

8:44 PM

Report back once rebooted

user136984

Be right back then! :D

Serg

@ByteCommander any luck yet ?

user136984

@Serg: Ok, I have restarted, and it still makes no difference... :( Any other ideas?

Serg

:/ nope . . . . that's all i got for now

user136984

@Serg: Do you know anyone round here who might? :)

Serg

8:56 PM

em . . . no . . .only blind guess that Fabby or A.B. might know . . .

user136984

@Fabby: Do you have any idea about this? :)

Serg

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Q: Laptop suddenly refusing to suspend on lid close

It was working just fine earlier today, and in fact I have never had a problem with it before, but now when I close the lid of my laptop, nothing happens, when I open it back up again, not even the locked screen do I get... Although when I close the lid it does blank the screen, but does nothing ...

gnome suspend laptop power-management

user136984

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Q: Laptop suddenly refusing to suspend on lid close

It was working just fine earlier today, and in fact I have never had a problem with it before, but now when I close the lid of my laptop, nothing happens, when I open it back up again, not even the locked screen do I get... Although when I close the lid it does blank the screen, but does nothing ...

gnome suspend laptop power-management

Serg

one link is good, two is better :D

user136984

:D