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4:38 AM
@vzn u there?
 
vzn
5:02 AM
hi TA
 
@vzn hey, can you address me like this?: @TAbraham .. that way I get a notification that you have sent me a message..
 
vzn
ok rarely do that will consider it
generally respond to others who msg me within a day or so
whats new? thats an interesting/ advanced qm matrix problem youre working on with MM... are you in college? what year? whats your major?
(re)
in The h Bar, yesterday, by Mark Mitchison
@TAbraham How does $\sigma^+_i\sigma^-_i$ act on the states for site $i$?
is it in this paper?
in The h Bar, yesterday, by T Abraham
http://arxiv.org/abs/0807.4902
Dephasing assisted transport: Quantum networks and biomolecules / Plenio, Huelga
TK, had a brief fun chat with TA/MM yesterday. MM was tutoring him. MM works at oxford/ UK & has personally met deutsch.
MM is working on a memristor experiment and has worked with both arduino & raspberry pi.
TA welcome & glad you could drop by. feel free to ask any questions re this room topic/ history etc
TK/MM was going thru my recent physics links/ bookmarks on this subj getting ready to write a blog. reran across something you might like TA
Life is quantum / McFadden, Aeon
> Weird quantum effects are so delicate it seems they could only happen in a lab. How on Earth can life depend on them?
so how long have you been chatting with MM?
MM oops sorry correction above TA is the one working on the memristors
 
5:27 AM
@vzn just was going to tell you that!
 
vzn
typo
 
@vzn yes..
@vzn you know, I read an article on work McFadden's work in qunatum biology.. it was cool.. it explained how a violation of darwinian theory was caused by quantum superposition...
@vzn thanks...
@vzn for about a week or two..
thanks for the link BTW...
 
vzn
np. oh didnt realize mcfadden was doing research himself thats cool
yes it looks like an exciting new field in its infancy.
 
the first example of quantum biolgoy I heard was about smell...
 
vzn
ah yeah its theorized there or something... makes sense... a widespread & readily conceivable "detector"...
there one would speculate evolution has highly tuned/ optimized it in various organisms....
 
5:39 AM
the theory is that quantum vibrations are measured by receptors and concieved as smell...
in a nutshell...
 
vzn
yep.
 
anyway, what r u interested in memristors..
 
vzn
maybe even some qm entanglement too! dont know if it is hypothesized there....
 
@vzn really cool... I think qunatum biology is what I really want to be studying..
 
vzn
go for it! do you have a major right now?
re memristors, they were only introduced a few yrs ago. recall the announcement.
 
5:41 AM
@vzn am an undergrad...
@vzn that's cool too.. want to deisgn memristor circuits as well..
 
vzn
trying to remember, theorized as 3rd state of electronics along with resistors and capacitors, something like that?
 
@vzn and inductors..
 
vzn
ok! yeah.
do you have a major yet?
US college?
 
@vzn no ...
@vzn yes..
BTW, mcfadden's article talks about his research..
u read it?
 
vzn
yeah have to read the mcfadden article in detail
what interests you about memristors?
have a longtime interest in nanotech also.
have read some drexler.
 
5:44 AM
@vzn the fact that the resisitance can change.. it is "The Machine" that HP is trying to make..
@vzn me too.. u followed my area51 proposal?
 
vzn
haha not yet. its your own proposal eh? nice leadership/ initiative there
 
@vzn pls do.. with support, I am sure it will be launched..
 
vzn
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Nanoscience and Nanotechnology

Proposed Q&A site for students, professors, and researchers to ask questions about nano-science and nanotechnology

Currently in definition.

 
gota go soon so sorry ahead of time if I end conversation abruptly or don't reply ..
 
vzn
np late for me2
 
5:47 AM
@vzn yep that's mine..
 
vzn
so what classes have you taken in college so far?
 
@vzn where do u live?
@vzn mainly science..
ok..bye!
and remeber to follow my proposal @vzn !
:-)
 
@vzn thanks, good questions..
 
 
13 hours later…
vzn
7:12 PM
email reply from AK tipping me off on his new paper! (Dec 27 2014) he says its being studied in the lab at NIST. wow! need to look into this
yet another acronym "PCSFT". that "emergent QM" conference also used the term "superclassical"...
 
@vzn: It's funny how that isn't even his latest paper on arXiv
@ThomasKlimpel: What's the problem with QM in the first place? I feel it's only difficult if you fix your philosophical postition from the start, or if that position is too restrictive. Well, maybe I only think so because I'm a pragmatic person, in some weird way. I'd just learn and stop trying to convincing people. btw.: It's clear that every person in the world doesn't know enough math.
 
vzn
8:06 PM
hi NK welcome.
think we both have little issue with QM. its tried & true, battletested, etc., enough good things cant be said about it.
however, einsteins old conjecture about incompleteness may be starting to "re-emerge" (speaking of emergent qm....)
alas a lot of fuzzy thinking & philosophical baggage has accrued on the subj.... TK has some nice bkg to sort thru some of that.
 
 
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11:42 PM
@NikolajK For me, the initial problem with QM was that I could only learn it properly from a good teacher, or from good introductory texts. And the second problem was that I wasn't forced to learn it, because I could take the exams in other physics courses instead.
When I finally had to learn QM for professional reasons, I already had many years of practical experience in computational optics in the presence of partial coherence on my side. So it makes perfect sense for me to translate QM concepts into the context of optics, and see what they mean there.
A second bonus on my side was that quantum computing has lead to the availability of excellent German textbooks introducing QM from a more conceptual point of view.
There is also a philosophical side, which is a total different story. A real number can contain an infinite amount of information, but nature probably doesn't contain an infinite amount of information in a finite volume. So nature has to use QM (or something similar) to blur details enough such they no longer contain an infinite amount of information.
 

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