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12:22 AM
I gave up.
Restoring my backup and moving on.
My first rule of thumb is if it's working don't upgrade
It needs to be upgraded though.
For security reasons.
My second rule of thumb is clone the partition, upgrade on the clone and test for weeks. Get sick with the clone upgrade and wait until next years upgrade.
But, I can't for the life of me see what went wrong.
I upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04, and BOOM! PHP no longer works.
This, despite everything I can find indicating that nothing whatsoever is wrong.
My third rule of thumb is to not upgrade for security reasons :P. I upgrade for functionality and features. There will always be an attack of the week exposure. Look at the last round with reptoline it was a theory of memory leaks, no actual virus existed.
12:24 AM
No useful errors in the server log, nothing wrong with the configuration files, just random magic.
Perhaps do a fresh install of 18.04 instead of an upgrade and migrate your data over to it?
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Features are my primary motivation, honestly, but security as well.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix too much work, seeing as I'm one man.
Too much on my plate.
It could be done, but I'm not in the mood to wrangle with it.
@RolandiXor I kind of think NSA is the biggest spy and the criminals are second place. Can't stop the NSA with their budget so why bother with security.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I sort of feel that way too lol
But, I gotta be honest... sometimes, the errors I come across really tick me off - just in general.
Technology DOESN'T have to be this complicated and confusing.
People CAN do better.
I'll use the same password on hundreds of websites which I remember. I shake my head at the people that make up special ones site by site and have to write them down on paper and slide into their desk drawer.
12:27 AM
For instance, if everything is in place as it should be (I checked configuration files, logs, etc), and I've followed the documentation word for word - then wth man?
Sorry for my rant.
sudo apt purge php then sudo apt install --reinstall php
12:45 AM
Didn't work
I'm telling you, it's magic.
1:01 AM
I don't know what to say learning Personal Home Page (PHP) and Structure Query Language (SQL) and HypeText Markup Language have been on my to-do list for decades but I'm kind of slow... still on grub, kernel and just started putting icons on any monitor...
1:24 AM
Actually at little bit further, just got cron to call bash to download websites each morning and email me price changes. But still a long way from PHP and SQL.
2:00 AM
I only use PHP and even Javascript when I have to. I'm more of a HTML + CSS guy.
Still haven't got into those Complicated Style Sheets (CSS) yet either :)
I dunno only so many hours in the day so you have to pick and choose your battles. Besides I have my day job at the warehouse.
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2:16 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix understandable. I want to get back into Python and C++ - but time, interest, and motivation.
@RolandiXor Python and C are different tools. What you need first is the goal, and then select the tool to get you there.
I know, but I used to use both tools, is what I'm saying. I want to refamiliarize myself, even if just for the sake of the general knowledge.
I have used C for caching HDD to SSD PCIe like Intel RST but in Linux. And I have used Python for managing Grandfather, Father, Son daily backup generations in gmail.com email attachments but that is it in Linux and only because they were the only tools to accomplish the goals. Other than that I don't use those tools.
Why has the network configuration software changed in ubuntu 19.04? It's not /etc/network/interfaces . Its cloud-init. Why?
2:36 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix fair enough.
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7:20 AM
Starting October I am going to be a Linux engineer, whoo.
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8:25 AM
@blade19899 I'd congratulate you but I did not believe it took that much effort did it? :D I got mine handed over by just saying I worked with Xenix, Unix, SCO, and Linux for more than 20 years :P
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10:57 AM
@Rinzwind I develop in Linux for fun. I can't imagine getting paid to do it too!
11:26 AM
I do :=) But I mostly use an interpreter for coding so it is a bit old skool. We are still switching and/or replacing our old software with equivalent python code.
11:50 AM
Well Python is interpreted too. I had thought Python would be in my Ubuntu desktop learning future but now they are switching over to Gnome Java Script (gjs) which hopefully I'll start learning in 20.04.
12:33 PM
@Rinzwind Really, I've been in the Linux world just a few years now, and they offered me a job as an Linux Engineer.Whoo
12:49 PM
gnome java script? never heard of that :-X
@blade19899 now that is worth a congrats :D so gratz! :D welcome to the working class.
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