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Thomas Ward

12:00 AM

nope

Nathan Osman

Claps profusely.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

deletes all the users except Thomas and his rep drops to zero because all up-votes disappear

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix that happens

might happen for a bit too, there's some folk unhappy with current events enough to quit.

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Drops to 0? That's a special kind of fail since we all start with 1 rep.

Thomas Ward

summons forth Pure Darkness and destroys StackExchange by accident as the Dark Chaos Mage of Armageddon rises forth from the portal

Nathan Osman

12:01 AM

RIP SE.

Journeyman Geek

however you don't always lose reputation from user deletions

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@JourneymanGeek Yes a user was deleted today and I lost 4 points from his up-votes... although that doesn't make sense since an up-vote gives you 10???

Journeyman Geek

wait... 4?

Edits maybe? 2x2?

Nathan Osman

This is a math problem in disguise.

Thomas Ward

@JourneymanGeek exactly 4 lol

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:01 AM

lol

Nathan Osman

Let's see... he upvotes you twice, you downvote him once...

Then he downvotes you twice, and then...

Journeyman Geek

or you upvoted him and he downvoted you 3 times.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

True maybe I had edited two questions of his before I hit 2K and got 4 points.

Nathan Osman

@JourneymanGeek AHA!!!

We figured it out.

Journeyman Geek

(the scamp)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:03 AM

I think we need an SE accountant in the room :p

Nathan Osman

Must... not... ping... Shog...

Thomas Ward

prepares the Portal of Summoning to summon The Great and Powerful Shog!!!

Nathan Osman

Nopenopenope.

@ThomasWard there's a dark fusion reactor joke in there somewhere...

Thomas Ward

is there?

Nathan Osman

I don't care to find out.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:04 AM

dark fusion reactor as opposed to Happy Fusion Reactor?

Thomas Ward

lol

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Failed HL2 reference...

Thomas Ward

so we don't want to destroy everything with the Summoning?

Nathan Osman

I'm guessing "yes".

Thomas Ward

bah you're no fun

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:05 AM

You mean my ex and her lawyers too?... hmm... welll.....

haha...no...j/k

Nathan Osman

Who the heck is this?

chat.stackexchange.com/users/242419/aquariusone

WinEunuuchs2Unix

That is high rep user Aquarious One... everyone knows him!

Seth

@NathanOsman that's not hard to figure out,

Nathan Osman

@Seth I give up.

I must be missing something obvious.

Seth

@NathanOsman pretty sure it's one of Thomas's socks.

Nathan Osman

12:10 AM

@ThomasWard You have been found out!

Your secrets are exposed and laid bare for all to see.

We now know that you are part of an evil scheme to subvert Ask Ubuntu an— fzzt!

Silence.

Birds chirp "Still Alive" quietly in the distance...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman what is the significance of Aquarious One account you linked? I don't see anything suspicious there????

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix It has explicit write access to this room.

It is silently spying on us, ready to pounce at a moment's notice.

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman It was used temporarily to test Smokey powers

to see if it actually replied or did things in this room

it also was a 'bot tester' to test run things

Nathan Osman

"temporarily"

Lol.

>:)

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman yes, actually. We still test the thing here too.

if it were spying it'd be here

I know more than A1 does

Nathan Osman

12:14 AM

Fair enough.

It is possible to lurk without being seen though...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

What's the point on spying on a public chat room though?

Thomas Ward

^ that

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Shhhhhhh!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

whistles innocently and kicks snow

Nathan Osman

There is actually data available to room lurkers that doesn't appear in the transcript, FYI.

Thomas Ward

12:15 AM

drops @WinEunuuchs2Unix into a snowdrift

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It's going to feel like minus 37 tomorrow at 8 am ... that is COOOLLLLLLDDDDDD.

Thomas Ward

drops @WinEunuuchs2Unix into a frozen lake

WinEunuuchs2Unix

kind of hard to fall through ice :p

Thomas Ward

not when you shatter the ice with a kinetic strike

which you missed because your head was in the snow drift

bleh, i'm tired.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I've actually dropped a ski-doo in a frozen lake and car in a frozen lake.... they have puddle anomalies in places.

drops Thomas into a mysterious opening in the middle of a frozen lake

Thomas Ward

12:19 AM

reappears out of the transdimensional temporal portal that spawned right above @WinEunuuchs2Unix

lands right on @WinEunuuchs2Unix's head

oops

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I wanna know how I lost four points from a user being deleted and who else lost points :(

@ThomasWard Good thing it's minus 37 and I had 10 togues on.

Hey @TheXed how's the cold? Zach caught one too.

Thomas Ward

12:51 AM

at least it wasn't food poisoning

Journeyman Geek

1:13 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I think I've lost.. cumulatively, about 100-200 points of reputation from that sorta thing. I'd check your edit history

Nathan Osman

1:23 AM

Anyone happen to know how to boot a specific file from an EFI shell?

I've got KVM up and running and a macOS installation ISO.

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman black magic.

Nathan Osman

Darn thing won't boot tho.

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman oh...

@NathanOsman that probably won't work

you need hackintosh people

Nathan Osman

It's not a Hackintosh though.

This is running on an actual Mac.

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman I'd actually ask this on SU

Nathan Osman

1:25 AM

Well, I guess there's nothing to lose.

Journeyman Geek

it would be super helpful as an example of a good "running OS X legally on a less than supported configuration" question

Throw me a link too

Nathan Osman

Alright.

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman are you within a Mac environment?

not just a KVM setup

wait, @JourneymanGeek are you saying virtualizing OS X on non-OSX hardware/host is allowed on SU?

when did that change?

Nathan Osman

@ThomasWard No, I've installed Ubuntu Server on the Mini.

And I'm using it to virtualize macOS.

Wait for my question.

It explains everything.

Thomas Ward

that's... not my question to mister JourneyMan

Journeyman Geek

1:28 AM

@ThomasWard hackintoshes are still disallowed

Thomas Ward

well wouldn't Nathan's build technically be a hackintosh?

Journeyman Geek

Nope!

You're legally allowed to run OS X on apple hardware atop non OS X Oses

As per the EULA

> to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software
within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is
already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b) testing during
software development; (c) using macOS Server; or (d) personal, non-commercial use.

Seth

I'm honestly not sure why Nathan bothers to develop for OSX.

They make it such a pain to do.

Journeyman Geek

Cause OS X is a common, currently supported OS ;p

and he could in theory run it bare metal.

Seth

Yeah well just because it's common and well supported doesn't mean I care enough to lose my hair over it.

Journeyman Geek

1:38 AM

Not everyone feels that way!

There's a good chance when I'm employed again, that might be a good chunk of my work

Seth

@JourneymanGeek well yeah, there are people that can afford a $3k computer every few years when Apple comes out with a new one, and the $100 yearly developer fee.. but not me.

Journeyman Geek

@Seth mac minis are cheap and cheerful ._.

Nathan Osman

@JourneymanGeek superuser.com/questions/1176022/how-to-boot-macos-in-kvm

Seth

Apple can keep their matte aluminum for all I care.

Nathan Osman

Lol.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:40 AM

@JourneymanGeek Wow you've lost 100 to 200 points from users getting deleted. That's way more than the four points I've lost... This is fascinating. Can't wait to hear from the others.

Seth

It's not even shiny! :P

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I also have.... something like 90K rep on SU, and have given away a thousand points of reputation ;p

Nathan Osman

@Seth My Mini was $500. And you can get decent used ones for even less.

Seth

@JourneymanGeek $500 for those specs? My last computer I doubled everything listed there for less than $500.

Journeyman Geek

@Seth my beloved razer's matte black aluminium

Nathan Osman

1:41 AM

Granted, you'll want to throw an SSD in it right away.

Seth

@NathanOsman Trust me, I tried..

(simply to get away from Windows, which I hate even more than Apple..)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

My dell laptop is black aluminum too.... honeycomb... it's kind of cool.

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman I've never seen a PC I didn't want to throw an SSD in.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

After the SSD you wonder how you ever lived without it!

Journeyman Geek

well almost

Seth

1:42 AM

@JourneymanGeek what about a 12 disk RAID 5 array? slightly serious question :P

Journeyman Geek

I'm toying with downgrading my spare box...

@Seth imagine that with SSDs!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Seth Get a 12 SSD RAID 5 array instead :)

Seth

@JourneymanGeek I'd be starving, but my computer would be fast..

Journeyman Geek

@Seth the enclosure and controller would make you poor already ;p

I'd really like a low end 1tb SSD for throwing my games on

Seth

@JourneymanGeek touché :P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:45 AM

You know you can get a 4TD HDD and 200 GB SSD and cache the HDD to the SSD...

As you generally only play one game at a time for 20 to 40 hours it'll all be on the SSD when you are using it.

Games are only about 6 GB anyway.

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix and steam lets you move them

so you can store games on big disks, then spend maybe 5-10 minutes moving them the first time you want to play

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@JourneymanGeek Origin does too... I have the same game on multiple drives.

@JourneymanGeek With HDD to SSD caching you don't have to move the files... it's all automatic.

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I run an SSD as my main drive anyway

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The SSD works as a block device for the HDD where files are permanently stored.

Journeyman Geek

and a hyupothetical storage tier SSD would be slower than my system one

I have a cheap chinese one I could repurpose...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:50 AM

I had 16 GB SSD accelerating 250 GB HDD partition and it was incredible speed difference. Since then I've upgraded with 128GB SSD and 240 GB SSD and the 500 GB HDD isn't accelerated anymore.

Mark Yisri

Speaking of SSDs, will an SSD work in any computer with a 2.5" hard disk?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It was actually 32 GB SSD divided into Intel RST to accelerate Windows Partition 250GB and Enhance IO to accelerate Ubuntu 14.04 partition 250 GB.

Journeyman Geek

@MarkYisri kinda

MOST SSDs are 7mm

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Most 7mm SSD's come with a spacer to make it 9mm.

Journeyman Geek

You couldn't fit many SSDs in the rare system that uses a 5mm drive

but usually its a drop in replacement

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:55 AM

You know you can even get mSata SSD's up to 1 TB now... mine is 128 GB though. Silly because Ubuntu only uses 30GB partition on it.

it's like a tiny card 2" x 2" by 1/4"

fascinating stuff when you grew up on punch cards and floppy disk was a break through at 360KB.

Serg

wondering if i should go home or stick around in the library for an hour

Journeyman Geek

m.2 is the new cool

and darned things are so fast some are limited by thermal issues rather than anything else

Nathan Osman

I personally don't see the point when ethernet is capped at 1 Gbps.

Seth

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA65C56D6282 That seems like a deal

Nathan Osman

Oct 19 '16 at 4:43, by Nathan Osman

4

Seth

2:03 AM

dat review tho o_O

> I bought this and it immediately booted up windows 10. To clarify, it came preinstalled without me knowing, which is great because installs are time consuming. Also had gigabyte software on it for some reason. Very strange but I won't complain!

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Sounds like a refurb

Seth

@NathanOsman The current room description for the SO PHP room starts with:

> Support group for those afflicted with PHP.

xD

the golang room on SO is dead :(

muru

@Seth golang users don't need support groups, we're happy. :)

Seth

@muru true, but a social group might be cool :P

(you use go too?)

muru

Whenever I can.. Right now afflicted with Java, but hoping to move back to Go soon

Seth

2:17 AM

I can't believe just how refreshing go is.

although this is an interesting point:

in Go/Golang on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 22 '16 at 16:06, by Abyx

anyways, Go sucks and I hate it.

in Go/Golang on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 22 '16 at 18:21, by Abyx

I'll elaborate it a bit, while I'm here

(read the following few messages)

muru

I just use a defer for that sort of a chain

A TA once commented on my fondness for deliberate panics and defers

Nathan Osman

Notice how the short examples don't do any error checking.

Seth

@NathanOsman yeah, that was my first thought.

@muru can you expound? TBH I can't immediately see how defer would help here.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Pretty soon I'm going to install LAMP on the backup laptop. How do I go about finding website eye candy to put on it?

muru

@Seth in that specific case, it won't - but in general the if blocks would have something more complex but repetitive - so I move it all to the defer block and simply panic in the if block

The panic is to make the function used for deferring use the correct chain

Nathan Osman

2:43 AM

Le facepalm:

This is horrifying. Currently advising everyone I know who owns a @VIZIO set to toss it. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2017/02/what-vizio-was-doing-behind-tv-screen https://t.co/lDjPkQa31z

Tweeted by TerrenceOBrien on February 6, 2017 at 6:38 PM

@Seth ---^

Journeyman Geek

or to keep it off the network

Nathan Osman

Then they started going after the people in the tweet: twitter.com/SomaFmRusty/status/828746658938707969

Journeyman Geek

ow

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:55 AM

Ugghhh all my questions on opinion based SE Politics Beta seem to get put on hold as "opinion based" when they are all about opinions in the first place. ie: politics.stackexchange.com/questions/15358/… (note reference to this chat room is made as evidence in the question).

muru

@WinEunuuchs2Unix IMO that is an opinion poll if there ever was one

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@muru I'm getting very annoyed at that branch of SE. Every question I ask gets closed as opinion based. They are more elitists than us :p

Oh well most of my initial questions and answers in AU got closed too and it took me awhile to "get in the groove" here so maybe the same thing holds true with politics.

Your country is primarily cash based and had to exchange bank notes recently... maybe I should post that as source along with a few others that did the same over the last few months and ask if there are any other countries.... They might like a question like that.

muru

@WinEunuuchs2Unix will probably get closed as a "big-list" question

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@muru Never heard of that one... maybe you mean too broad? Did you know after thousand years of gold aquisition Indian women have more gold than the US Federal Reserve now? little tid bit.

Nathan Osman

Vancouver's toy trains are broken again? #canadaline

Tweeted by ladnermusic on February 7, 2017 at 2:54 AM

Ouch.

One of the trains is stuck on the bridge.

Also, this isn't what you want to look out your window and see: twitter.com/sorrywongnumber/status/828110296409464832

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:07 AM

Your whole region is all about rivers and bridges... which bridge?

Nathan Osman

The Canada Line bridge.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

never heard of it... is it close to Lions Gate Bridge? That's my fav.

Nathan Osman

google.ca/maps/@49.2010971,-123.1170993,16z

It's southeast of the airport.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Richmond?

that's a swamp.

Nathan Osman

It connects Vancouver to Richmond.

The Canada Line is above-grade though.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:09 AM

probably built on sand or garbage or both.

Nathan Osman

Ah, here we go:

That's what it looks like under better conditions.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

that's kind of cool.

muru

@WinEunuuchs2Unix now? I'd have imagined that that would have happened decades ago

Nathan Osman

Built a few months before the 2010 Winter Olympics.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

way better looking than what they build in Edmonton.

haha 2010....when there was no snow and they were making it by hand and then all of a sudden nature stepped in and there was lots of snow.... remember that one.... twas a classic.

Nathan Osman

3:11 AM

It's a driverless system - although it uses DC electric motors, unlike the SkyTrain, which uses linear induction motors (LIM).

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@muru Yes it probably happened many years ago... It was just stated on Keiser Report on Russia Today yesterday though.

Over 1,000 years India females have acquired 20 tons of gold they said.

oops...maybe they said 20,000 tons of gold... after a few kilos of gold I loose track :)

Seth

@NathanOsman Ugh.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman As far as I know there is only DC (Direct Current like your laptop battery and cell phone) and AC (Alternating Current like your house lights, TV, etc.)

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix there's multiple ways to design a motor

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix yes but propulsion.

Seth

3:19 AM

@muru mind writing a quick example? I'm not sure I'm quite following still.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

ok ok... well there is always rocket science....but that's above my pay grade :D

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix there's brushed and brushless motors

Nathan Osman

LIM systems use a third rail to propel the train forward using electromagnetism.

Journeyman Geek

there's 'stepper' motors

Nathan Osman

Linear induction motor

A linear induction motor (LIM) is an alternating current (AC), asynchronous linear motor that works by the same general principles as other induction motors but is typically designed to directly produce motion in a straight line. Characteristically, linear induction motors have a finite primary or secondary length, which generates end-effects, whereas a conventional induction motor is arranged in an endless loop. Despite their name, not all linear induction motors produce linear motion; some linear induction motors are employed for generating rotations of large diameters where the use of a continuous...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:20 AM

@muru Just to set the record straight I always thought saving in Gold was way smarter than Diamonds, stocks, bonds or comic book collections.

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix other than gold's value being primarily extrinsic

When civilsation falls, gold may not be worth more than bottlecaps.

or copper

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@JourneymanGeek Gold is easier to measure than Diamonds, stocks, bonds or comic books which all have subjective value.

Nathan Osman

Here's what the rail looks like on our system:

There's also a rail on the side that provides power to the train's electrical systems.

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix but what is gold worth?

Nathan Osman

Also, that train needs a bath.

Journeyman Geek

3:22 AM

Its value is still arbitrary, and while there's a market value...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@JourneymanGeek Sorry I cheated and rewrote that sentence as you were posting your question.

Journeyman Geek

I mean, under the old US gold standard...

a dollar was worth X weight of gold

But lets say if suddenly someone flooded the market with gold...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

That ended in 1973 when they closed the gold window.

Nathan Osman

The value of nearly everything is determined by what people are willing to pay for it. The one exception being Apple products.

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman even then there's the option of substitute goods

Nathan Osman

3:24 AM

People will pay anything for them.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

very true... you don't need an Apple MacIntosh... you want one because Madonna said so at the Superbowl.. .but a Ubuntu or Windows will still do the job.

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Heck, I don't want anything she says I should buy.

But that's completely beside the point.

Apple has created the illusion of value by keeping their ecosystem tightly controlled.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

An Ubuntu counters with open source?

Journeyman Geek

Open source dosen't have a selling point for the average customer

WinEunuuchs2Unix

haha open source is FREEEEEEEEEEE

Nathan Osman

3:27 AM

But sadly the average consumer is very ignorant when it comes to technology.

Journeyman Geek

TBH, the average open source centric user would be a serious power user

Nathan Osman

As recent as the early 90s, it was possible to pick a computer user at random and expect them to know what an operating system was, some basic terminal commands, and most importantly, the correct terminology.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I think that is true... almost every week I'm doing someting in Ubuntu that is impossible in Windows without a million dollars.

Nathan Osman

Nowadays the average consumer walks into Best Buy and asks "how do I reset the Bluetooth on my Wi-Fi?"

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman I consider "being able to install your own OS" a minimum

Nathan Osman

3:29 AM

Yeah, at least complete a Windows or Ubuntu/Fedora/Mint install.

I don't necessarily require that a power user complete an Arch install...

:P

Journeyman Geek

nope

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman Ha in the early 90's they had to use "format A:" and "copy 1991FIN.csv 1992FIN.csv".

Journeyman Geek

or a dual/triple boot

muru

@Seth minimal example:

func foo() (ret string) {
   defer func () {
       if err := recover(); err != nil {
           do_cleanup()
           ret = "foo"
       }
   }()
   ret, ok := bar()
   if !ok {
       panic("Noooooooooooooooo!")
   }
}

Actually it would be used where the return value is a complex object that takes some setting up

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman though its worth remembering doing an install from scratch would involve preparing media (I just use rufus for everything), resizing or preparing partitions and doing the actual install.

Most muggles would just go/stick with whatever OS their PC came with and run it till it failed.

Nathan Osman

3:31 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, Rufus is the way to go on Windows.

Journeyman Geek

Its an appliance, like a blender or a washing machine.

Nathan Osman

...which likely has firmware now :P

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman I typically have a windows box running, and the darn thing handles anything from XP to 10, linux or haiku

@NathanOsman which the average user would not upgrade

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@muru You have ret = "foo" on one side of if but no where else. The syntax looks off. Is that just serving as a GOTO or a "exit"?

muru

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I had ret, ok := bar(), but you're right - that's shadowing the ret that should be return value

SmokeDetector

5:11 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body: What do you about Junivive Cream? by Junivivecream1 on askubuntu.com

Zanna

5:55 AM

spam askubuntu.com/questions/646815/ubuntu-on-bq-aquaris-features/…

edwinksl

yum

Zanna

please vote to leave open askubuntu.com/review/close/674708

edwinksl

6:15 AM

ok

Zanna

thanks

the person who reverted my edit is actually making me cry hahaha

edwinksl

link plz

Zanna

6:33 AM

not sure you can access as it's in private beta vegetarianism.stackexchange.com/a/307/74

edwinksl

oh i can't

Zanna

never mind, it's time to let it go now sigh might have to take the day off from SE. Or maybe I just need breakfast

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: kind of product with a view to revive the pliancy of the pores and skin and eliminates by heriyahvaxer on askubuntu.com

Seth

6:53 AM

Done. If it comes back, lemme know and I'll blacklist. — Shog9 ♦ 1 hour ago

@Zanna --^ :)

@Zanna that's not cool! I'm sorry :(

It helps me to just disengage and move on, but that's not always easy to do. People can be really mean sometimes :(

Remember we <3 you anyway :)

Goodnight guys!

Zanna

@Seth awesome! :D

@Seth <3 <3 <3 it helps a lot :)

muru

7:14 AM

Spam: askubuntu.com/questions/880680/…

Journeyman Geek

@muru not entirely if its spam or ... well, cluelessness.

I mean, its probably utterly inept spam.

WHY CAN'T THE COUNTRY THAT GAVE THE WORLD TAGORE AND BHARATHI WRITE COHERENT SPAM?

edwinksl

woah jmg rage

Journeyman Geek

12 hours ago, by Thomas Ward

all caps rage makes me want to smack you hard

Oh dear

Zanna

some of the spam is coherent. No need to generalise XD

7

muru

@JourneymanGeek that link though

Journeyman Geek

7:18 AM

yup

edwinksl

@Zanna that is true. i can confirm some of the spam i write is coherent.

Journeyman Geek

@edwinksl you arn't indian though

so I'd need to replace the literary figures

edwinksl

XD

Zanna

I'm sure if muru wrote spam it would be of very high quality

Journeyman Geek

And what about all the people who won't be able to join the community because they're terrible at making helpful and constructive co-- ... oh.

edwinksl

7:36 AM

deep

Baron

What are you guys doing over here ?

I meant to say what you up to? not what you doing ( I don't care what are you doing )

Zanna

7:50 AM

what's the difference between doing and being up to?

Baron

Well, actually there is no difference!

Journeyman Geek

Whether you'd need legal representation if caught. ;p

Baron

You can put it this way Jo.

Journeyman Geek

Do I look like a Jo to you? ;p

Zanna

is there a dupe for this? askubuntu.com/questions/576075/…

Baron

7:55 AM

Nope, you don't. Being used to tap to complete the name on irc seems to not work here. lol

Journeyman Geek

(add an @ in front)

Baron

Oh, here we go @JourneymanGeek

:D

Thanks.

Journeyman Geek

Its a bit different from IRC ;p

You can also reply to messages (click on the down arrow next to a message, though I have a handy userscript for that)

@Baron which is nice when having a few conversations on channel at once.

Baron

@JourneymanGeek This is fantastic. I think I should spend more time here.

Journeyman Geek

It can be a bit addictive if you have free time... ;p

Oh, and you can edit mistakes for about 3 minutes or so.

Baron

7:58 AM

Most definitely!!!

This is better than irc! except that one cannot tweak it around.

Rinzwind

I see royalty :P

@Baron saves you time to waste on other trivial things >:-D

Baron

hahahahah @Rinzwind

Journeyman Geek

@Baron there's a bunch of userscripts

Baron

That is true.

Where @JourneymanGeek ?

Journeyman Geek

stackapps I guess

I run this stackapps.com/questions/2105/…

Baron

8:05 AM

I like this one.

Nathan Osman

8:18 AM

This is the second time I've installed Ubuntu on the one machine today...

@Baron Don't forget my script :) sechat.quickmediasolutions.com

Zanna

ooops thanks @Serg :)

Nathan Osman

That one shows you where other users have read and when they are typing.

(Assuming they installed the script as well.)

cl-netbox

Good morning ! :)

Fabby

Good morning and goodbye! ;)

user3108268

8:42 AM

hello

when ordering e.g. less than 1gb ram cloud server

do you go with ubuntu 32 bit or 64 bit

some sources suggest to go with 32 bit, but it doesn't explain why

the server would run nginx, mariadb and php7 fpm

so is it like, it would run faster on 32 bit version on <1gb ram than 64 bit?

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