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James Tobin

3:19 AM

the chat is quiet

yes.

Installing...

iNsTaLlInG wHaT?

Proper case?

pRoPeR cAsE?

3:22 AM

Yes, proper case.

James Tobin

oK

Nathan Osman

Trying to install amdgpu driver.

incompatible type for argument 4 of ‘ttm_bo_move_accel_cleanup’

Boo!

Kaz Wolfe

bug

James Tobin

arch linux failure!

Nathan Osman

At least I'm four kernel releases ahead of you all right now :P

Kaz Wolfe

3:26 AM

moo

oh? i have kernel 4.8 now too

Terrance

Does kernel 4.8 make that much difference over 4.4?

Kaz Wolfe

it comes with predictive intelligence. it runs commands before you type them

Terrance

:D

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe It hasn't been released yet. You've been tricked!

Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha >:)

Kaz Wolfe

of course not.

that's why I got the Release Candidate

infact @NathanOsman, what RC are you running?

Terrance

3:33 AM

I am going to try the RC3 version of them.

Kaz Wolfe

bleeding edge or no edge m8

Terrance

Sounds good to me! =)

RC5 is out now

OK, downloading RC5

lol

3:36 AM

wait no not bleeding edge enough

download the latest source from the latest development branch

edwinksl

 VERSION = 4
 PATCHLEVEL = 8
 SUBLEVEL = 0
-EXTRAVERSION = -rc4
+EXTRAVERSION = -rc5
 NAME = Psychotic Stoned Sheep

Kaz Wolfe

i think there was a commit a few hours ago

edwinksl

psychotic stoned sheep, ok

Nathan Osman

RC5.

^--- what I've got.

Freshly built this afternoon.

Kaz Wolfe

does torvalds just throw everything into the master branch?

Terrance

3:38 AM

Downloading now . . . . . . .

Kaz Wolfe

woah. the kernel has infinite contributors

so... how does torvalds do any work on only one branch?

Terrance

Darn! Errors with the module. =(

vboxhost

edwinksl

github.com/torvalds/linux heh, infinite number of contributors

Ralf17

Hello

Could someone help here?

Kaz Wolfe

with?

Ralf17

3:43 AM

I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and its taking time to install applications after download.

30 minutes has already passed and that image in terminal is not yet changing.

edwinksl

huh, that's a problem i haven't seen before

Kaz Wolfe

and i will soon be a member of the Linux Foundation! yay!

3

Ralf17

@edwinksl Can you help me?

James Tobin

@KazWolfe wow! (suprised they allow uefi fans) HAHA

Kaz Wolfe

They allow anyone who throws money at them.

Or are a student.

edwinksl

3:47 AM

@Ralf17 no, i hesitate to recommend anything because i don't want to break your system :P

Kaz Wolfe

Yeah, you're in a weird place right now.

Just wait a bit longer...

Ralf17

@edwinksl ...so I really have to wait until it stops?

Kaz Wolfe

WOAH WTF. Linux Foundation members get employee pricing at Lenovo/Dell/etc?!

I can get all the pro-grade hardware that comes with all the benefits of proper UEFI!

Ralf17

I read some posts here and there online, they recommend to delete some stuffs but do so with caution.

Kaz Wolfe

wb @ByteCommander. Do you ever sleep?

edwinksl

3:51 AM

@KazWolfe nice i just submitted application

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe I tried to, honestly.

But then I got haunted by a nasty mosquito...

Not sure if I managed to swat it yet.

Kaz Wolfe

also god damn tech certs are expensive

Ralf17

I did follow on of them i.e. if ps -e | grep -e apt -e adept | grep -v grep prints nothing

Kaz Wolfe

if you want to risk it ralf, there may be a way

Nathan Osman

Interesting...

So the headers are incorrect...

Terrance

3:54 AM

@NathanOsman How so?

Nathan Osman

The 4.7 headers are in /include but I am running a 4.8rc5 kernel.

So modules that depend on 4.8 features won't build.

Terrance

Hmmm

Nathan Osman

Reinstalling...

Terrance

Mine are 4.8. Interesting that you got 4.7

Kaz Wolfe

so i'd need to take A+, Server+, Network+, Security+, Linux Sysadmin, and maybe Linux Engineer

god, that's easily over $1k

Byte Commander

3:58 AM

Well, I'll try to get some more hours... night o/

Kaz Wolfe

it's gonna be day soon lol

Terrance

@ByteCommander Goodnight!

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe Do I look as if I would care about that? ;)

Kaz Wolfe

has anyone in this chat taken the LFCS/LFCE?

Ralf17

@KazWolfe Then sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock

Kaz Wolfe

4:02 AM

I'd say Ctrl-C out of the process, clean apt, and dpkg-reconfigure.

Ralf17

and sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock

@KazWolfe Would that ruin my system?

Kaz Wolfe

potentially.

Ralf17

I mean your suggestion

Kaz Wolfe

welcome to apt.

edwinksl

lol

Kaz Wolfe

4:04 AM

What does your syslog say?

Anything about why snapd would fail to start/stop?

Ralf17

I actually have done the steps that I was describing a while ago because s -e | grep -e apt -e adept | grep -v grep

and then I tried installing sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client

Kaz Wolfe

you're not looking for adept though, you're looking for snapd iteslf.

basically apt is waiting on the process that handles setting up snapd to finish doing something

Ralf17

after deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/lock and sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock

Kaz Wolfe

It is obviously not finishing anything, and this is typically stopping and starting services.

Also that is how to break things.

those locks are there for a reason

Ralf17

When I typed in sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client the terminal throws E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.

Did I broke my system our something by following that the thread is : askubuntu.com/questions/15433/…

It is the answer of karthick87.

Kaz Wolfe

4:09 AM

Run that command

sudo dpkg --configure -a

Ralf17

I did and I am now back to the never ending setting up of snapd

Kaz Wolfe

oh...

Ralf17

That was the earlier story now I said everything on what I did let's go back to the present and discuss if my system is already broken, how would I know?

Kaz Wolfe

0

Q: apt-get stuck on 'Setting up blueman'

I installed xubuntu-desktop to give XFCE a try, and during that process it got stuck installing a few packages. It got stuck on setting up blueman, hddtemp, or lm-sensors. I eventually ended up skipping these packages as I didn't need the services they provide. However, now if I ever try to run ...

linux is resilient to breakage. Try what the answer there says.

Anwar

@ParanoidPanda still there?

morning everyone (or noon or evening)

Ralf17

4:13 AM

@KazWolfe Okay so I will control+C first to stop sudo dpkg --configure -a then I sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get install -f and again sudo dpkg --configure -a

Kaz Wolfe

basically

yay @linux.com address :D

Anwar

someone lost ownership of ~/.local folder and they're asking why some themes didn't appear in list!

they were even doing sudo to copy at that place.

edwinksl

4:28 AM

@Anwar oh that theme question

how did OP's .local even get owned by root in the first place

Anwar

That only God knows!!

they tend to not disclose these secret details!

edwinksl

i fear darker secrets lurk in OP's ~

Kaz Wolfe

W10's mail app is simultaneously amazing and terrible.

And I hate that.

Anwar

ha ha. but that's not my problem. @edwinksl

but I wonder if you ever sleep!

edwinksl

secret

Kaz Wolfe

4:32 AM

he takes catnaps

edwinksl

i may or may not be omnipresent

uh stackoverflow.com/questions/39403791/…

Anwar

let me count seconds

Ralf17

@KazWolfe That solve the problem, thanks! I think snapd is broken that is why the set up is taking to install so I purge snapd and do those three steps (1) sudo apt-get clean (2) sudo apt-get install -f and (3) sudo dpkg --configure -a. I can now a make installation sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client

Kaz Wolfe

well if it works...

Pandya

Saurashtra (region)

Saurashtra is a region of western India, located on the Arabian Sea coast of Gujarat state. It consists of 11 districts of Gujarat, including Rajkot District. == Location == Saurashtra peninsula is bounded on the south and south-west by the Arabian sea, on the north-west by the Gulf of Kutch, and on the east by the Gulf of Khambhat. From the apex of these two gulfs, the Little Rann of Kutch and Khambhat, waste tracts half salt morass half sandy desert, stretch inland towards each other and complete the isolation of Kathiawar, except one narrow neck which connects it on the north-east with the...

edwinksl

4:43 AM

@Anwar OP of that perl question replied with a dropbox link lol

Anwar

@edwinksl saw it :D added to the question

edwinksl

@Anwar i should have warned him not to manually install the deb, although that can be easily reversed

Anwar

yes. agree with you

Kaz Wolfe

i have an au question idea

but it may get closed as PoB or too broad.

so i'm sad

Anwar

what's the question?

Kaz Wolfe

4:45 AM

"What is the fastest way to destroy my system in order to infuriate IT?"

edwinksl

@Anwar so i think maybe we can ask him to dpkg -r that perl package and then fix the broken dependencies from scratch again

Anwar

@edwinksl I think yes

@KazWolfe it will be off-topic I think. but interesting ... :D

Kaz Wolfe

yeah...

so how do i make it not off topic

edwinksl

@Anwar i will let you handle that since you are already on it :)

@KazWolfe say you want to specifically destroy a ubuntu system

Kaz Wolfe

i will

edwinksl

4:49 AM

but that would still be pob or too broad

Kaz Wolfe

not pob... I want as fast as possible

edwinksl

still too broad

i think

Kaz Wolfe

well i can try

edwinksl

no harm trying. you have enough rep to tank the downvotes

Kaz Wolfe

and i can just nuke it

Anwar

4:51 AM

destroy in what way? I think most answers will say rm -rf /

edwinksl

there is a similar question here askubuntu.com/questions/641944/…

Anwar

and I asked a question how to crash unity

what about deleting everything from /boot folder and reboot?

Kaz Wolfe

how would i tag this...

edwinksl

command-line

Anwar

:P

Kaz Wolfe

4:58 AM

0

Q: I need to destroy my Ubuntu install as fast as possible. How?

So, I got into really hot water with my IT department, and they're on my way down to my desk right now. Turns out they hate free and open source software with a firey passion. Fortunately, they're not too bright. Either way, I need to get rid of my working Ubuntu right this second to avoid their ...

command-line system

edwinksl

are there better ways than the usual ones? i am curious... time to google

James Tobin

@KazWolfe rm -rf /*

Kaz Wolfe

post an answer!

edwinksl

nice 1984 reference

@KazWolfe 1 CV. that didn't take long

Anwar

bootsect is really quick.

Kaz Wolfe

5:11 AM

i like it, but partition analysis...

Anwar

you need to boot into windows and use the command. There will be no sign of Ubuntu after reboot

that theoretical tag

Kaz Wolfe

we'll see how this goes

i'm going to be blackballed from question-asking in the future lol

edwinksl

at least you are not lord kife

Kaz Wolfe

true.

i have a positive impact on this site lol

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@edwinksl You really meant lord troll.

Anwar

5:18 AM

@KazWolfe you can't nuke a question after answers have been added i think

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg -_-

edwinksl

@Anwar are you going to make a chatroom for the perl guy

there are so many comments lol

Anwar

Serg did it :p

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg hates fun.

edwinksl

oops, maybe command-line tag backfired...

Anwar

5:21 AM

oooops!

Kaz Wolfe

sigh

It is a candidate for re-opening as the questions are fundamentally different.

that's asking for any, i'm asking for extremely fast methods.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: How to use Linux without any user and permissions

Sorry for my strange question. I want to use Linux without any user. I mean. I want to use Linux system in way i run processes without any user, and freely edit any folder and any file without any permission entity. Yes, i additionally want that my system being totally unsecure. Maybe i need to u...

linux ubuntu

Anwar

@edwinksl the system still hasn't given me the option

well the duplicate target is not valid imo

edwinksl

@Anwar huh, interesting, okay. let me know when it gets created. i am curious what broke OP's dependencies

Anwar

ok. I'll let you know @edwinksl

Kaz Wolfe

5:24 AM

brb taking anger out on review queue

Anwar

this is shown to me askubuntu.com/error?aspxerrorpath=/review/close

Kaz Wolfe

yeah... things went down

edwinksl

you really did take your anger out on the review queues

Kaz Wolfe

brb making meta post

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Hai

Anwar

5:27 AM

hi!

Kaz Wolfe

0

Q: Cannot access review queues

As of 5:26 AM on September 9, 2016 (UTC), the review queues went down: This bug can be reproduced by attempting to visit any of the review queues on the site. Moderator Tools and flagging seems to be unaffected at this time.

bug review

i love how i'm hated on meta lol

edwinksl

3

A: /review/* failing on SE sites, but not SO

I pushed a bug that didn't manifest locally or on dev - a fix is going out now. Sorry!

culprit found

Kaz Wolfe

that guy is getting my MSE rep :(

and i actually need it. I keep getting murdered in all the meta sites

i'm down to 44 lol

James Tobin

what would be causing this?

Kaz Wolfe

sudo apt install virtualbox-5.0

return that pls

James Tobin

5:35 AM

heh

@KazWolfe I'm cracking up laughing lol

it's a joke

:P

Anwar

meh! asked a question :)

James Tobin

@Anwar :)

Anwar

please answer. I need that fast :)

James Tobin

made it with Gimp. cant install virtualbox because virtualbox is not installed lol

edwinksl

@Anwar seems like a serg type of question

Kaz Wolfe

5:37 AM

brb getting question-banned on MSE

James Tobin

lol

Anwar

@edwinksl do we have a serg on AU?

edwinksl

you can create one :P but it will get burninated i am sure

James Tobin

welcome serg :)

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@Serg Hello! o/ :)

Serg

5:40 AM

@KazWolfe I don't hate fun, i just did what other people would - closed a duplicate :)

Hello, chat ! o/

Kaz Wolfe

yet it's not a dupe...

Anwar

It seems Nautilus doesn't let me to have even a real copy progress window on latest version. It just shows a progress pie.

@Serg o/

but that's not a dupe imo

Serg

@KazWolfe and what's your argument that it's not a dupe ?

@Anwar I've set the "Above" rule in ccsm , but the dialog now doesn't even show up XD

Kaz Wolfe

That question is looking for any/best way. I'm looking specifically for a quick and more-or-less irreversable method.

They're similar, yes, but the goals are ever slightly different.

Anwar

@Serg what ??

lemme check

working fine here

Kaz Wolfe

5:44 AM

0

Q: Why do we hate fun at StackExchange?

Fun is Important™. Yet, we at StackExchange and our Lord and Savior Jeff Atwood tend to hate it, unless it's in "irrelevant" places like chat and the comments section. As long as it doesn't detract from the question at hand or otherwise impede the site's ability to function, why should we active...

discussion fun

I need ALL the downvotes!

Serg

@KazWolfe Arguably so. In either case, the end result requires irreversible destruction, and "best way" is a broad term, also implies efficiency and speed.

What does the chat think ?

Is Kaz's question a dupe ?

@Anwar welp, ain't working here for me

Anwar

how. I edited a bit. you'll add type=Dialog

Kaz Wolfe

no VM for one :D

plus... that question really doesn't have any good, creative, out-of-the-box answers

Serg

48

A: How many hamsters power the StackExchange sites?

We use 932 hampsters in rotating shifts of 212 for the web tier, they get 3 weeks of vacation time and all the carrots they want. Benefits also include medical and time off every 4th Tuesday and a bathroom break every 36 hours - we treat the help quite well here.

Some how I don't think SE hates fun that much

James Tobin

LOL

Anwar

5:50 AM

can mod see voter?

Kaz Wolfe

Nobody but the system and Shog can see votes.

Anwar

good.

Kaz Wolfe

They can, but the record is audited.

So they can't abuse it

Anwar

I want to vote down a mod's answer. :P

Serg

@Anwar very hard to do, as most mods either stop producing answers after they become mods, or their sh*t is 1337 AF

Henry WH Hack v2.0

5:55 AM

I need to go play in the sandbox.

Kaz Wolfe

yay halfway to modhood then!

(usually) 1337 answers, and always pestering existing mods

Ask Ubuntu Meta

2

Q: Cannot access review queues

As of 5:26 AM on September 9, 2016 (UTC), the review queues went down: My browser is reporting that this page is an HTTP Error 500 page, suggesting (as noted) that something is wrong with StackExchange's servers. This bug can be reproduced by attempting to visit any of the review queues on th...

bug status-completed review

Anwar

@Serg oh. anyway, did that work?

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe answered cause I am sure that will HNQ ;p

Kaz Wolfe

i hope to god it does

i really need MSE rep

Anwar

5:57 AM

This duplicate thing actually is stupid : )) — reversiblean 25 mins ago

Journeyman Geek

also, question closed

@KazWolfe I want to hit 10K so if someone complains about me, and it gets downvoted and closed so fast I miss it, I can see it ;p

Serg

@Anwar nope :/ I've set it exactly as you showed, type=Dialog. Even tried filtering by title. That bloody dialog ain't comming back

Kaz Wolfe

i want to get over 100 again

to make up for my little... "forum" incident

and that bounty on that annoying bug

Anwar

strange! it worked here. @Serg

edwinksl

@KazWolfe that single post made you lose that much rep ._.

Anwar

5:59 AM

@KazWolfe what incident and which bounty?

Kaz Wolfe

@edwinksl well, i lost 50 on a bounty after the Edity incident.

And the rest was because of that question

-11

Q: Discussion Forums?

(Reposted + Modified from AU Meta) One of the great things about the StackExchange network is the ability to ask a question and get it answered. No fluff, no frills, nobody saying "Me too." However, sometimes things need to be tested. Sometimes clarification is needed. Sometimes, the chit-chat ...

feature-request forums

this is the "incident"

Journeyman Geek

rofl

Anwar

oops!

@edwinksl that perl user disappeared!

Kaz Wolfe

meta sites just hate me altogether.

i don't have good ideas

Serg

Guys, is this opinion based ? askubuntu.com/q/674441/295286 I don't think it is, OP had specific issue, but created poor title making it look like opinion based question. Do you think it's worth reopen vote ?

edwinksl

6:05 AM

@JourneymanGeek thanks for easy +2

Kaz Wolfe

i'll take it

i'm just gonna start editing like hell on MSE

1000 edits to 2k, right?

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe meta.stackexchange.com/questions/221239/… this is my most upvoted question on MSE ._.

edwinksl

lmao, not worth

Anwar

LOL

@Serg I think a universal thing is broad. and actually there is no universal way afaik

edwinksl

@Anwar OP did reply with the debs he installed

Kaz Wolfe

6:08 AM

does MSE just hate everyone?

Anwar

@edwinksl I checked but didn't see it. thanks.

@KazWolfe I think new one

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe nope

edwinksl

@KazWolfe so your question is now in the reopen queue. let's see what happens

Kaz Wolfe

brb voting for it

Journeyman Geek

That said, for some reason, people like me on the internet

Kaz Wolfe

6:11 AM

AU main likes me.

AU meta hates me. MSE hates me.

It's just meta lol

Serg

@Anwar yup , universal thing is definitely broad, partially opinion based. But OP's issue was that he tried creating iso 3 times, and it failed. Oh, by the way, about your question just now - i think you can bring up zenity dialog, but the problem is that the "File Operations" dialog is nautilus child. For whatever reason, it hides once it looses focus. I was able to get it back only by restarting nautilus

Anwar

@Serg hmm... nautilus in 16.04 doesn't show a copy dialog. I tested with thunar's

Serg

@Anwar by the way, i edited that question to ask "What is the proper way to create installation media from Ubuntu iso ?" How's that ? Less opinion/broad based ?

Anwar

and from the question what I understand is, they actually succeeded, but options were different in three different methods. I saw different usb creators giving different boot-menu before. but those are irrelevant to main installations.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

I love flagging spams and bad post.

Anwar

6:20 AM

@Serg i need to go now. I'll check the question later and will ping you

bbl

Henry WH Hack v2.0

272

Q: Is this rotating cube interface user-friendly?

I'm working on a prototype for an innovative form interface, where different parts of the form are shown on different sides of a cube. The cube rotates, and the user can fill it out as the cube spins. Here is a working example: To me, it seems like a pretty robust solution to our problem (i.e....

forms interaction-design

^That post is fun!^

Serg

6:48 AM

@NathanOsman are you familiar with python Gdk stuff ?

edwinksl

@Zanna oh hi our next 10ker

Nathan Osman

7:04 AM

@Serg Not really, no.

I have my head buried deep in the drm section of the kernel right now.

Serg

Understandable. I've my head burried in Gdk now :) Day in the life of a programmer

edwinksl

huh, wasn't aware of this definition of gdk urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gdk

James Tobin

I just love all the features of 8.1. Just wish I could use an ubuntu package manager and core and linux kernel with it all

Serg

@edwinksl As Zachary would say , le wut ?

edwinksl

le wut indeed

Rinzwind

7:24 AM

@HenryWHHackv2.0 damn D:

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