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@Serg Up to you or not whether you want to take a stab at it. I'd suggest maybe going to a library or 'preview' the book. I have it but I"ve not read it (eBook, and because E:NoTime)
@Serg note you'll want an IDE probably, and you'll need Kali
 
Kali VM wont be a problem probably
 
and a 'private lab'
so you can attack a target machine without breaking the law
(nobody in law enforcement cares if you run your own lab to target your own machines for learning... they care when it breaks out into the 'net)
 
Keeping that in mind :D
 
Hello ! :)
 
12:21 PM
welcome back mr netbox
 
Hi!
 
good morning to you all
 
@ThomasW. I just posted an answer askubuntu.com/a/797363/530811
 
all hail Doge ! Much leader so ruler wow
 
@grooveplex Ideally pip would autoresolve the Python-level dependencies, but your answer is a good one :) (upvoted)
 
12:23 PM
@ThomasW. thanks
Indeed it would be nice if pip packages had a way of expressing dependencies to be installed with other package managers
 
@Serg Hello my friend ! :) I nearly missed your welcome (you forgot the ping) ... how are you ?
 
@grooveplex Too bad you can run pip to create a local pythonenv, without installing to the system (read: easy_install) and as such isn't aware of things like package managers
 
@cl-netbox I've gotten into habit of avoiding pinging people just to say hello and such. I am alright, my sleep lately has been a mess ( It is 6:25 am and i have been awake all night ) How about you ?
 
Dev
@Serg My sleeping is a mess too. Same, except it's 5 AM.
 
Welp , at least i'm not the only one
 
Dev
12:27 PM
Lol
 
virtually shakes hands with Dev
 
Dev
virtually smiles
 
@Serg i'm 2 hours ahead of you and tired myself, so blurrrrrrrrgh. (didn't fall asleep until 3AM, been up for only two hours so far)
 
Dev
I woke up at 6pm yesterday
 
@Serg in my case pinging me is no problem ... I am quite okay ... had some work to do besides computing last week ... and I set up a dual boot environment fedora / ubuntu which is running perfectly fine. :)
 
12:29 PM
Very interesting , somebody submitted an issue on git that my script for floating apps to the top of the launcher doesn't work for them
 
Dev
@Serg

-[------->+<]>-.-[->+++++<]>++.+++++++..+++.[--->+<]>-----.---[->++++<]>-.++++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.-----------.-[--->+<]>-.
 
@Dev thanks no, I don't do brainfack , only python and bash
 
Dev
lmao
I do python too
 
Anybody wants to test my script and help out with this issue ? github.com/SergKolo/sergrep/issues/5
 
12:31 PM
@cl-netbox i tried fedora once and didn't like it, but now i have centos in VM, just need to get back to it
 
@Serg ckeck out fedora 24 ... it is a great distro ! :)
 
Dev
I have ubuntu mini installed as CLI only and I love it
 
@Serg yeah, but I think the issue is way too unclear
Which OS, which DE, etc, what are they actually seeing on the screen
What have they tried
It's all unclear
@ThomasW. Can I leave a "I'm glad that I solved your issue" comment?
 
@grooveplex well i'd assume they're using unity , because the script is written for Unity launcher. Also I just tested it, still works in 16.04 so I dont know what the deal is
 
What is the script supposed to do, anyway?
@Serg
I never used it so I don't know how to see if it works
 
12:41 PM
@grooveplex It is supposed to take the icon of your active application and place it to the top of unity launcher. So say you have firefox open and focused. It's icon will be placed bellow Unity dash . Then if you alt-tab to chrome , the chrome icon will jump to the top
 
Hm hm
Let me try it on 16.04
Oh wait
I don't use Unity
 
yep , it's for Unity specifically
 
Okay I'll get back to you ASAP
 
@grooveplex not urgent, take your time :)
 
To keep everything together, I'll post a comment on Github when done
 
12:44 PM
@Serg "bellow" is related to "below" as "willy" is related to "wily" - or "car" to "carpet" or "Java" to "JavaScript".
 
lol
 
> The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
Sorry about that.
Fsck you, YouTube on Germany
 
@ByteCommander well , in that case you didn't get rick-rolled :p
 
You probably can only get Reich-rolled here...
 
12:51 PM
since we're mentioning world leaders and music . . .
Mr. President actually would make a decent singer if he tried
 
o_O
 
@Zacharee1 just another day in AU room ,nothing to see
 
...
my phone's power button was feeling spongy so I blew into the crack around it and now it works fine
I didn't expect that to happen
 
probably you had something stuck there
also why and how am i still awake
 
1:07 PM
you stayed up all night?
 
yes i have
for no reason this time
 
sigh
 
aside from all the chans and deep web and grep and python
 
Ah, Jeff the Killer
Lovely
 
1:10 PM
 
on a side thought, i think you have a point . . .
o/ cya
 
1:24 PM
Whenever people say "cya", I automatically think there's "-nide" missing...
 
@Zacharee1 Don't say anything - you started to post creepy pictures.
 
I already saw Ubunta twice today.
Make a very feminine penguin as image for that.
 
problem is male would be ubunto
if we're following that rule
 
1:38 PM
@Serg No-repro. works for me
 
@Zacharee1 So what's the problem?
 
idk
 
Then fire up Gimp and do it! :D
 
I think the Ubunntu is really cute
 
Ubuntuna tastes better.
 
1:49 PM
Ubunut has returned
 
great
 
@grooveplex thanks for testing. i guess there's something wromg on thay guy's end
 
@Serg no problem, I'm glad I could help
 
2:06 PM
how am i still functional
 
you're not
 
nobody is.
:p
 
deep
 
nobody is functional. yet everyone is functional.
it is the great cosmic paradox. :)
apparently hasn't had enough coffee
 
I think you need to step away from your keyboard until you've had that coffee
 
2:19 PM
:P
 
2:32 PM
Nono, it was just getting interesting :)
 
2:48 PM
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Q: Ubuntu 15.10 Networking Problems

Web4FunI recently deployed a VM with Ubuntu 15.10 and I am having trouble configuring the network properly. Note: When the OS was installed, it picked up an IP (from DHCP I guess), because it didn't ask me to set up the network. After installation I could access the server via that IP. However, I keep t...

 
@Zacharee1 <sigh>
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Q: Ubuntu installer doesn't detect my USB drive

Ord3rI'm trying to install a copy of Ubuntu on a 32GB USB drive, and after having downloaded the ISO image and created the bootable drive with Rufus, I boot from the USB and start the installation process as normal. However, when I reach the option to choose which drive to install the OS on I am prese...

 
3:09 PM
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Q: fdisk Not Returning Space?

WhiteHotLoveTigerI'm trying to resize my partition by cutting off a little swap space. In fdisk, I remove my ext4 partition and my swap partition, but when I try to create a new partition and start it at the same spot as it used to start it, fdisk won't let me, claiming that the value is out of range. I'm on Ubu...

 
3:43 PM
@AndroidDev I don't think you'd be getting a kernel panic. The kernel lives entirely in memory (here)
 
3:59 PM
Pokemon Go adds more than $7 billion to Nintendo's market value in 2 days - Bloomberg http://bloom.bg/29BiEvx
O_o
 
Pew pew...
 
smokedetector is slower this time...
 
Why is Amazon telling me my free tier is expiring...? I've been paying them for months now.
 
complain about it? i heard their customer service is good
 
4:24 PM
Well I'm not sure there's a problem yet.
nathan@sf:~$ uptime
 12:25:59 up 558 days, 17:29,  3 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.03, 0.05
That's not a problem.
 
@StefanoPalazzo What would you get then?
 
@AndroidDev Any process that tried to read from the disk would run into problems, for one thing.
 
558 days O_O
if only the uptime for the pokemon go servers were that reliable
 
@AndroidDev You'd immediately run into problems because the shell wouldn't be available. You wouldn't be able to run a script.
It would be similar to what's described here:
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Q: What would happen if a hard drive failed while the Linux kernel was running?

Nathan OsmanI've always been curious of what would happen if a hard drive failed while the Linux kernel was running. Since the kernel image itself is loaded completely into RAM, I don't imagine there would be any kernel failures. Obviously any software that attempted to access the disk would fail. Is there ...

 
4:45 PM
@edwinksl Now let's see the uptime of a Windows server...
Prediction: < 30 days
 
really? i doubt it is that bad ;)
 
I have a Windows server.
22 days so far.
Though it does need to be rebooted for Windows updates sometimes.
 
seems like a very powerful server
1 Gb ram xD
 
presumably enough to run windows though
 
yeah 512 MB Ram is minimum requirement of Windows Server 2016 TP
 
5:04 PM
I tried running it (Server 2016 TP5) with 750 MB of RAM.
It was fairly slow but usable.
 
ew wai
 
Because RAM is expensive?
Azure was charging me $19 for a server with 750 MB of RAM.
 
lol
 
At least with Amazon, I'm paying about $12 for a server with 1 GB of RAM.
 
new ubuntu version confirmed! askubuntu.com/questions/797468/…
 
5:06 PM
Lol.
 
i can't tell if OP meant 14.04 or 16.04 or maybe even the mysterious 14.06
 
@terdon What to do with this? askubuntu.com/q/797467/518562
 
@AndroidDev they didn't link to what they're talking about; even if we accept it as a separate Q&A, it's all in the question; it's off topic (Mint)
 
not even on-topic lol
 
@NathanOsman Look at the RAM usage tho...
@NathanOsman That's not insignificant.
 
5:12 PM
I know but thankfully I don't need continuous uptime for this server.
 
I can't believe what I'm seeing here askubuntu.com/q/797466/530811
 
It's just a node in a build farm: ci.nitroshare.net
 
10.04?
 
@NathanOsman I deleted your comment since I was editing mine to mention precisely that when yours was posted.
@AndroidDev We close as off topic or unclear, take your pick :)
 
It has been EOL since April 2010
 
5:13 PM
@terdon :)
 
@grooveplex Not the LTS one. The server was active until April 30, 2015 and even the Desktop until May 9, 2013. Certainly EOL now, anyway.
 
What if they meant 14.04?
Unlikely event, but...
 
They should clarify that then.
 
@grooveplex What if they meant asparagus?
It's the OP's job to clarify what they mean, not ours.
 
I understand
 
5:17 PM
Although, I admit it would be pretty surprising if they meant asparagus.
 
"Stupid vegetable - won't let me upgrade..."
3
 
@terdon i don't see why that is surprising; asparagus is delicious and i find every opportunity to namedrop it
 
Can mod people edit comments? Powerful.
 
@grooveplex Yep.
 
Thank you
I'm on my phone
 
5:19 PM
terdon providing janitorial services on demand
 
That's what I signed up for.
 
Is this stuff on topic here? askubuntu.com/q/797472/530811
 
does it pay well
 
@edwinksl it's like babysitting 14 hours a day for free
 
@grooveplex Don't see why, no.
 
5:20 PM
I can't remember who said that
 
@edwinksl Yes, around 120k a year. Sadly, we're paid in asparagus.
 
Lol
 
mods do get our eternal gratitude
 
@edwinksl How much is that in asparagus?
 
tricky question
 
5:21 PM
the small sort, or the fat sort? Green or white?
 
Shopping advice/spam off-topic @terdon askubuntu.com/q/797471/530811
I'm on a roll
 
@JourneymanGeek you sound like an expert on asparagus ;P
 
@terdon that came to mind yes
 
5:24 PM
:)
 
This is shopping advice and therefore off-topic @terdon askubuntu.com/q/797471/530811
 
It's also closed.
 
I see now
 
lol
 
5:30 PM
quite the bug
thanks to OP's very observant wife
 
2009 though?
 
haha awesome bug
 
@NathanOsman That's brilliant!
 
I always say that printers delight in frustrating humans
 
not the printer though
 
5:34 PM
I have clearly been scapegoating printers unfairly
 
If anyone wants to write an answer with my comment as a starting point, go ahead :) askubuntu.com/questions/797452/…
 
I need to walk to catch the Pokemon? What a silly thing.
 
lol
 
I am a strong, independent dinosaur. I need no pokeballs.
 
@grooveplex Why the double grep?
 
5:41 PM
I don't know how to do it any other way
:/
 
@grooveplex Sure you do, you're doing it already. Just combine the two grep calls: ifconfig -a | grep -oE '10\.16\.[0-9]{1,3}{2}\b' for example.
 
6:01 PM
Clean up these comments, please (contains personal information and email address and it's too chatty) askubuntu.com/q/797448/530811
 
Awww. if that's really an 81 year old guy, respect!
(but yes, I did delete the comments)
 
what 81 year old guy
i clearly missed the boat on this
 
i feel like people need a proper education on using root askubuntu.com/questions/797486/…
 
81 or 83?
 
6:09 PM
@terdon 81 = 83 confirmed
 
They certainly do. For example, most Ubuntu users use sudo su.
@Zacharee1 Same difference. >80 anyway.
 
welp
 
welp
 
Every time you run sudo su on an Ubuntu system, a kitten is brutally disemboweled with a blunt asparagus.
4
 
oh god that is such a waste of asparagus
 
6:13 PM
@terdon I like sudo su because idc about permissions
 
@Zacharee1 but you are not n00b, so you know how to fix things ;)
 
i m not n00b?
yay
 
@terdon actually it's far worse than that
I can't safely say it here or the Dark Ones will smite me :P
 
@Zacharee1 1) That's an awful reason to use it. First try, if that fails then use sudo. 2) Never use sudo su. That's what sudo -i is for.
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Q: Is there ever a good reason to run sudo su?

terdonTo launch a root shell on machines where the root account is disabled, you can run one of: sudo -i : run an interactive login shell (reads /root/.bashrc and /root/.profile) sudo -s : run a non-login interactive shell (reads /root/.bashrc) In the Ubuntu world, I very often see sudo su suggeste...

 
@terdon 3) ONLY ever use sudo su when your sudo is so old that -i doesn't exist. And beat yourself up when you do this too, because you failed hard.
 
6:17 PM
Yep. Which is why I took care to mention on an Ubuntu system.
 
@terdon I don't open a terminal and do it right away, I do it if I'm running a ton of root commands over time
 
I can understand using su and I can understand sudo. It's combining them that bugs me.
 
and then there's just no sudo at all on Android or iOS
 
@Zacharee1 Then do sudo -i.
@Zacharee1 No, that's why you use su.
 
@terdon oh, and 4) You've condemned yourself to oblivion for doing sudo su.
 
6:18 PM
:)
 
that said, came across a 9.10 server recently that was so ancient and broken that sudo -i wasn't working
 
I've used it, but I don't see a difference with what I use it for
 
@Zacharee1 Same thing really, but far more elegant and efficient. Using sudo su is sort of like circling your house once each time you come home before opening the door. It gets you to the same place, but you've just wasted a cycle. CPU cycle in this case :P
 
I don't understand
don't they both give me root access until I quit?
 
@terdon he doesn't understand CPU mechanics
 
6:31 PM
@Zacharee1 Yes they do. Just like going around your house once before entering will still get you in the house, you've just wasted more time and energy than was necessary. Similarly, running two processes (sudo su) when one would be enough (sudo -i) is inelegant.
It's no biog deal, if we're being serious, it's just ugly.
 
then I don't care, because honestly, I haven't used it in years :p
15 minutes of sudo is enough for most things
 
True.
 
none of those
go get a gold plated thing instead
 
wat
 
6:36 PM
loljk.
@Zacharee1 it's a personal preference thing, which do you like the most
 
I like the canvas ones, but I don't really know which colors I like
 
6:49 PM
pick the orange one i guess
 
pick the dark black one
or the blue
or the yellow. or the white.
or any of them.
 
@ThomasW. shut
 
:P
 
It's simple. PURPLE is always best.
 
what does being feminist means
 
6:56 PM
@CodeX serious question?
 
yeah
 
Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, personal, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. Feminists typically advocate or support the rights and equality of women. Feminist movements have campaigned and continue to campaign for women's rights, including the right to vote, to hold public office, to work, to earn fair wages or equal pay, to own property, to receive education, to enter contracts...
being feminist means you are a staunch supporter of feminism.
that's all I say on the matter
goes to poke nagios again
 
so is there "Menenist" too
 
Not that I know of...
 
there's no need for that... feminism recognises present injustice
 
7:00 PM
can we not discuss this
the last time i saw one of these discussions was on IRC and I had to end up banning all parties involved in the discussion to silence drama
 
Yes please.
 
yes please!
 
How about: there are extremes on both ends which end up giving a bad name to their sides
like EVERYTHING
blegh
 
@ThomasW. advice question: I released a new version of NitroShare only to realize I left a bug in it - nothing serious, just one that caused it to display the wrong status to the user during a transfer. Basically a cosmetic bug. Is the best thing to do fix it and immediately issue another release?
 
b2ZmIHRvcGljCg==
please
 
7:02 PM
i'd call that a major regression if the end user is getting bad status messages, @NathanOsman
 
@NathanOsman give it the same version number and pretend nothing's changed
 
and yes I'd push a release before the bugs come pouring in
 
and that it's the user's fault
 
@NathanOsman assuming of course you can't retract the release
 
that'll make you a real corporate developer
 
7:03 PM
@StefanoPalazzo "off topic" ?
 
if it's already in the wild and downloaded you need to issue a patch release
 
Yeah, Fedora has picked it up already, sadly.
 
@NathanOsman new release then
with an 'important' / 'high' priority
 
I was afraid of that :P
 
and then stab Fedora
 
7:04 PM
It's a UI bug, not really that serious.
 
with a blunt asparagus? @ThomasW.
 
It shows the transfer as "connecting" instead of "in progress" even though the progress bar still goes from 0 -> 100%.
So the user would still know it's working.
 
that's pretty noticeable
ehh
I would think something's wrong
 
so would I
 
If the progress bar is moving?
 
7:04 PM
but i'm a power user :P
 
yep
 
@NathanOsman up to you whether to release or not
 
@NathanOsman That's doesn't sound too bad though
do you have to manually do something for fedora and ubuntu to pick up a new release?
 
It also broke Unity integration but that's not serious - Debian doesn't even have that.
 
I've seen too many programs that go to 100% and then show an error
 
7:05 PM
@StefanoPalazzo Ubuntu picks from Debian
and Debian takes an eternity to accept
 
@StefanoPalazzo Fedora, not really. For Debian, yes.
I'll need to contact my sponsor.
 
^ hence the "eternity" part :P
 
He's been pretty responsive.
 
you know what i mean :p
 
7:06 PM
Well do it, and don't worry if it takes a while
 
But I haven't told him about the broken release yet.
 
that's what I'd do
 
0.3.21 maybe
 
0.3.20.1 :P
shot
 
Nah, it'll just end up as 0.3.3.
The broken version is 0.3.2.
 
7:07 PM
@NathanOsman then either 0.3.3 or 0.3.2.1
 
The 0.3.3 release was scheduled to just include translation updates.
 
in either case, I would make a note to at least Fedora that it's broken. Before you get a flurry of bugs on it
 
Yes, indeed.
 
@NathanOsman or file the bug yourself, and then mark it "In Progress" or such
 
@ThomasW. The tooling is only designed to recognize three version components.
 
7:07 PM
like I do for 'i'm working on it' nginx bugs :p
 
@ThomasW. Their issue tracker watches for new releases and files a bug automatically.
I'll also spend a few minutes making sure nothing else broke in the meantime.
I mean, I do test the releases.
Somehow that one slipped by testing.
 
@NathanOsman happens to us all, I let a bug through accidentally in nginx
 
The 0.4 series is going to split the app into smaller components that will simplify testing.
 
caught it a few minutes later and issued a supplemental patch heh
 
Heh, that makes me feel a little better.
 
7:09 PM
that said, it happened such that I pushed a version... but forgot to make the actual change
I got scolded
 
I also have a build farm that test-builds each commit on Windows and OS X.
(Ubuntu has a daily PPA set up.)
Oh, and thankfully I didn't publish the update to iTunes yet.
Mac users can be so unforgiving :D
 
yes they can be.
 
7:28 PM
huh, did github just change fonts
it looks different
 
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Q: Unable to establish network connection between two servers

John NaegleI have 7 Ubuntu 14.04.4 servers running in AWS. One server is hosting memcached (port 11211) and the other 6 are clients. Of the 6 clients, 5 are able to connect and one is not (see note). I've taken a TCP dump of both sides of the connection. I saw that the client sent a SYN request, but n...

 
wouldn't know .. I changed all fonts to Ubuntu xD
 
alright i am not insane twitter.com/…
 
7:42 PM
O_o
I had a tab open and reloaded it.
It's showing the Ubuntu font now.
I don't like it.
 
heh @edwinksl might make you happy: I just came across one of your posts in review on 'low quality posts' I chose 'looks OK' and got Congratulations... this was only a test...
 
lmao :)
i am sure i do have some bad posts, might be time to cull them
 

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