Ask Ubuntu General Room

Nathan Osman

7:00 PM

And we're live... nitroshare.net

HTTPS support is finally here.

user139252

@NathanOsman It's supposed to give an indicator, right?

user139252

I see nothing in my tool bar on MATE.

Nathan Osman

You should automatically be redirected to HTTPS.

My Let's Encrypt certificate was just issued.

user139252

No, I mean the app itself. Yes, I am directed to the HTTPS version for the site. But the NitroShare app is not showing up in my MATE toolbar.

Nathan Osman

Oh, hm...

It should show up - it installs a .desktop file which MATE should pick up.

But that may not happen until you restart or something triggers it to reload.

user139252

7:10 PM

I'll try logging out and back in.

Nathan Osman

In the meantime, you can use the "nitroshare" command to launch it.

user139252

It runs, starts listening, but I have no way of sending files now.

Byte Commander

Delete duplicate answer: askubuntu.com/a/692466/367990

jokerdino

@ByteCommander It's a thank you answer.

Byte Commander

Doesn't make it better.

user139252

7:15 PM

.... I can't believe she didn't change her name!

Byte Commander

Oh, and close this as double-dupe: askubuntu.com/q/693966/367990

user139252

I have a student who's last name is Stark. Her parents are married. HER MOM'S NAME IS TONI!!!!

3

user139252

SHE TOTALLY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HER HUSBAND'S LAST NAME!

jrg

That's probably why she didn't.

user139252

She could have been Iron Man :P

jrg

7:22 PM

Iron Man commander, Iron Man!

(If you get the reference, go meet real people in the real world.)

Serg

So I dropped that java class this morning . . . I'm officially out of work-study and with only Advanced Analog class left for the end of the semester . . . .

This fall semester was a trainwreck right from the start

user139252

@jrg All Google returns is Minecraft

jrg

@HeatherBrown It's a quote from The Martian.

@Serg :(

user139252

@jrg Have not yet read that. It's in my stack, though.

user139252

I have to finish "What If?" and "Saint Odd", then I get to "The Martian".

jrg

7:30 PM

@HeatherBrown it's a good book. Movie was decent.

user139252

user139252

America is making cool armor, now?

A.B.

I need help with Unity, because I haven't installed this thing =) Where is the lettering "Ubuntu Desktop" if I activate "Show Desktop"?

> askubuntu.com/questions/691068/…

Is this in the top left corner?

Byte Commander

@A.B. No idea what you mean...

A.B.

@ByteCommander found it, thank you =)

Byte Commander

7:42 PM

Enlighten me, please! :)

needs to install shutter again...

:O

The following extra packages will be installed:
  imagemagick imagemagick-6.q16 imagemagick-common libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcairo-perl
  libclass-data-inheritable-perl libcommon-sense-perl libcrypt-openssl-bignum-perl libcrypt-openssl-rsa-perl libdata-random-perl
  libextutils-depends-perl libextutils-pkgconfig-perl libfile-which-perl libgd-perl libglade2-0 libglib-perl libgnome2-0
  libgnome2-bin libgnome2-canvas-perl libgnome2-common libgnome2-gconf-perl libgnome2-perl libgnome2-vfs-perl libgnome2-wnck-perl

imagemagick isn't installed by default any more in 15.10?

Installing that as well then... And GIMP.

user139252

Mine shows as imagemagick being installed...

user139252

Though it may have been installed with MATE or GIMP...

Byte Commander

Close votes for this dupe: askubuntu.com/q/693966/367990

Any mod around? Someone should merge askubuntu.com/questions/618389/… and askubuntu.com/questions/674885/…

@Mitch you think we should merge those two? ^^

A.B.

@ByteCommander Here is a screenshot: askubuntu.com/q/140742/367165

Byte Commander

7:59 PM

@A.B. Ah. Never noticed that until now :D

A.B.

=)

@ByteCommander your answer? askubuntu.com/q/693969/367165

Byte Commander

@A.B. Feel free to take it, it's similar to the ones about KDE and google accounts I want to get merged above, but you're better in writing that kind of answer.

A.B.

@ByteCommander Thank you, I will try it.

Mateo

@jrg so you probably allready read the books I suggested huh ;)

Serg

Who's got kubuntu ?

Terrance

8:11 PM

Not I, says me. :P

Byte Commander

Close, not Ubuntu askubuntu.com/q/693990/367990

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Serg

>_< I haz a possible answer but the OP is using ubuntu

Byte Commander

@Serg For what?

Serg

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user136984

8:21 PM

@Fabby: I just discovered this fun little app! What do you think? :D

user136984

Also, do you know if there is any way of getting it so that only a certain app is allowed to find your geographical location?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda redshift is awesome; eases the eyes

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda I think it's dumb! My machine has a sensor that does this!

:D :D :D

user136984

:D

Byte Commander

@ParanoidPanda No idea why I just gave you 15 points for that... ;)

A.B.

8:22 PM

@Fabby Eizo?

Fabby

So: question: not upvoted. Asnwer: upvoted!

Byte Commander

Still having 415 more points than @ParanoidPanda! >:D

user136984

Not for long! >:P

Serg

Still has more points that both of them @ByteCommander @ParanoidPanda

user136984

@Fabby: Before you fix it it read "uestion" and not "question"... :P

Fabby

8:24 PM

@Serg No more rain dance for @Serg! (CC: @ParanoidPanda, @ByteCommander)

@ParanoidPanda I have no clue what you are talking about... >:-)

user136984

:D

Byte Commander

Close dupe: askubuntu.com/q/694006/367990

user136984

Fine, we'll leave it... :P

Serg

@Fabby no more rain dance ? I aint dancing in rain, one could get a cold from that >:)

A.B.

Good night all =)

Fabby

8:26 PM

@ByteCommander VedTC

Serg

@A.B. sleep well, yo !

Terrance

@A.B. Have a great night!

Fabby

@A.B. Schlaf gut!

Serg

Gute nacht

Byte Commander

@Fabby @Serg Was that supposed to be German? Or Dutch?

Serg

8:28 PM

German, but then again, I know only chinese well enough :D

Fabby

@ByteCommander Engrish

Byte Commander

@Serg "Gute Nacht" is correct.

Serg

@Fabby dropped that class this morning

Byte Commander

@Fabby Fixed it yourself...

Fabby

@Serg Good for you: a bit tough now, but better in the long term...

@ByteCommander Turned on the spell checker

cl-netbox

8:30 PM

Goodbye - see you ... :)

Serg

@Fabby Yeah . . .gotta go ask my supervisor what to do now . . . .

Fabby

@cl-netbox Gute Nacht!

cl-netbox

@Fabby Schlaf gut Fabby ! :)

Terrance

@cl-netbox Goodnight!

Serg

Also my mom said to get a loan now, cuz she won't pay for my next semester -.-

cl-netbox

8:31 PM

@Terrance Good night to you ! :)

@Serg You should got bed ... as well ... NOW ! =)

@Serg Good night my friend :)

Serg

@cl-netbox but but but . . . it's 1:32 in afternoon right now oO

Fabby

@Serg You just look tired!

(That's all!) :D :D :D

cl-netbox

@Serg When you do not sleep in the night you will have to do it NOW ! =)

Fabby

rain dance done!

cl-netbox

okay - bye ... :)

Serg

8:34 PM

>_< I am no rain dancer yo @Fabby

Fabby

@Serg You're on the wrong end, my friend: I'm the rain dancer!

Zacharee1

73 first posts? No thanks :p

Serg

@A.B. come back from bed, I need you to translate what's @Fabby is talking about Oo

Fabby

@Zacharee1 meh, there are some nice easy questions in there that can easily be duped...

Nathan Osman

@Fabby Boo! there are dark storm clouds appearing outside now >:(

Fabby

8:37 PM

@ByteCommander: @Serg has no clue about me rain dancing!

Byte Commander

:D

Fabby

@NathanOsman :D :D :D You should look out the window here: it's as black as night!

Nathan Osman

@Fabby Because it is night? :P

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 Too few? Try Close Votes. We have 228 of them! >:-)

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander too many. I hate going thru them. Also, I need ~900 more rep for the close votes

@Fabby lol

@ByteCommander LQ and LA are fun, but not FP

user136984

8:39 PM

@Zacharee1: Can f.lux also be installed from the repositories?

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda That's how it's installed

justgetflux.com/linux.html

Serg

@Fabby wait till it's December, I'm gonna be snow dancing . . . .if that's a thing . . . also >.< i still have no clue what's it all about . . . .

Hmmm, and i don't dance well . . .

user136984

@Zacharee1: Why does the CRDF AV think that it is a malicious website?

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda erm

idk

Serg

and I don't like cold . . . .You know what ? No dancing ! I'll stay at home, drink hot tea and watch youtoobz

Byte Commander

8:42 PM

I fear asking for dmesg was not what I wanted here: askubuntu.com/q/693972/367990 CAn anyone help?

Zacharee1

I've used it on Windows, Mac, Linux and iOS and have not had any viruses @ParanoidPanda

soo

I wanted to use it on Android but you need CyanogenMod to do that and stupid Verizon locked my bootloader

user136984

@Zacharee1: That could mean two things: there weren't any viruses, or they were so amazing you couldn't find them. ;)

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda xD

@ParanoidPanda Seriously, though. Try it out. It's more stable than Redshift (at least in my experience) and it's actually made to help with sleep patterns. I use it on my iPad and it's wonderful.

user136984

@Zacharee1: Ok, well I'll run some more thorough scans, and then maybe have a look if they think it's fine. ;)

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda OK, but it's not like I'm trying to infect computers. Or am I? :p

Serg

8:46 PM

@ByteCommander well , the message in OP's screenshot is due to /etc/rc6.d/S40umountfs script, i can tell you that much right now

user136984

Probably not you (but maybe :P), but the site could have got hacked, or perhaps the owners aren't as nice as they seemed to be at first.

Byte Commander

@Serg Better tell it the OP, not me. I don't know much about that... I just tried to get some more error messages, but obviously dmesg gets reset on reboot.

Serg

@ByteCommander I've not much clue either

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda The website has no firewall, which is probably what you're seeing

sitecheck.sucuri.net/results/justgetflux.com

user136984

@Nathan: It's been a while since @GeorgetheDev's last video, you and him working on another one? :)

Nathan Osman

8:50 PM

There will probably be one more before Christmas.

user136984

@Nathan: Oh, you really should do a Christmas themed special! ;)

Serg

does 15.10 come with upstart ?

or systemd only ?

user136984

@Serg: I think systemd only.

Nathan Osman

@ParanoidPanda Oh I will.

@Serg It comes with a compatibility shim for Upstart though, IIRC.

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda What are you using that finds it as a malicious site?

Fabby

8:51 PM

@NathanOsman Oh! yeah! ;-)

user136984

@Zacharee1: I was just looking at the VirusTotal report on it.

user136984

Now I'm running some deeper more thorough scans though.

Fabby

@Serg He who does the vertical dance well, does the horizontal dance well as well...

Tip: take dance classes!

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda 1/66 finds it malicious! Oh noes!

Fabby

@Zacharee1 :D :D :D

@ParanoidPanda Just stay away from Pr0n sites!

Nathan Osman

8:53 PM

Hey, I remember when I came across some malware that only one antivirus program was able to detect.

Zacharee1

@Fabby Here we go again...

Fabby

(and don't download any executables and scripts you haven't read the source code of)

Nathan Osman

I caught a sample in the wild before the major vendors had updates for it.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman I think F.lux is a trusted site though

user136984

@Fabby: Don't worry, I don't like the taste of prawns... :P

Nathan Osman

8:54 PM

@Zacharee1 I'm just speaking generally here.

Zacharee1

@Fabby I never check programs I download and have never had a virus problem

@ParanoidPanda haha

Fabby

@Zacharee1 I've only ever seen viruses on other people's machines!

I don't know how they catch them!

Nathan Osman

I have tons of stuff in my inbox, @Fabby, if you want some samples :)

Zacharee1

@Fabby actually, my friend has managed to break I think 5 laptops by downloading programs from trusted sources

Nathan Osman

I get all kinds of stuff (viruses, phishing, etc,) in my inbox.

Zacharee1

8:55 PM

@NathanOsman You have a bad spam filter

Gmail gets rid of everything

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Trusted by whom?

Serg

Well, I'm gonna go smoke and get my a$$ to college. Have to talk to supervisor . . . . I dont know how to feel today: angry or depressed or happy, or psychotic o_O

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 I run my own mail server.

user136984

@Fabby: You look at Norton's list of bad sites and then you go to one without Norton... :P

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman You've never heard of F.lux? It's in the news

user136984

8:56 PM

Oh, I do love this song!

user136984

Iron Maiden - Blood Brothers

►

Nathan Osman

Here we go again...

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda eww, Norton

Fabby

@NathanOsman Like I said: other people's machines... ;-)

Zacharee1

My computer came with Norton Internet Security bundled

Serg

8:57 PM

@FAbby Tries to dance with a dog, but stomps all over dogs paws . . . . Nah, thanks . . . .I'll be looking for a gf who likes intellectual conversations rather than dances . . . .I like girls in glasses anyway

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Break? Laptops?

user136984

@Zacharee1: I used to use their products when I was on Windoes, actually they detect more viruses than most vendors.

Fabby

Actually break???

Zacharee1

It kept asking me to register it and I would press "Do not show again" every time, but it would just keep going

@Fabby He killed Windows :p

Fabby

Last time I broke a PC for a bet with just software is over 20 years ago...

Zacharee1

8:58 PM

@ParanoidPanda I've had nothing but bad experiences with Norton

Fabby

nowadays you have to write a device driver to accomplish that!

Zacharee1

@Fabby Well my friend has an "affinity" for doing this

Nathan Osman

All you need is rm -rf ... - wait, is Terdon around?

user136984

@Zacharee1: How so?

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda :D True!

Zacharee1

8:58 PM

Locked himself out of an ASUS eeeBook

Fabby

@NathanOsman Definitely NOT starring that!

Nathan Osman

:)

Serg

^_^

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda They come bundled on Windows computers and won't stop asking you to register

Then they expire and won't stop asking you to buy

Fabby

@Zacharee1 :D

Nathan Osman

8:59 PM

@Zacharee1 Yup, I've seen that.

Zacharee1

They're like those fake virus scanners that find 25,000 viruses and then 0 when you buy them

Fabby

That's crapware, not malware!

Zacharee1

@Fabby never said malware

Nathan Osman

Nowadays, Windows ships with Windows Defender.

Terrance

Or scareware

Fabby

9:00 PM

@Terrance Ransomware!

there was one on the site not long ago...

Terrance

@Fabby That too! =)

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman My Windows 8.1 computer had Norton

Fabby

Lemme look!

Nathan Osman

Now we're talking about something actually insidious.

Zacharee1

@Terrance Boo!

Terrance

9:00 PM

@Zacharee1 Boo?

Zacharee1

Scareware?

Serg

@NathanOsman if you actually want something insidious , look up usb killer - it's been a thing frequently mentioned on security stack site. not software thing, but still evil

Terrance

Yeah, it scares you into buying their crap faking you out showing that there are many things wrong with your system

Fabby

MMMh, I thought I answered it. Apparently only left a comment!

Nathan Osman

What happens is a rogue script encrypts a bunch of your personal files and transmits the decryption key to the bad guy. Then he offers to sell it back to you.

Terrance

9:01 PM

Scareware def

Nathan Osman

Basically extortion.

Zacharee1

Chat too fast :p

Nathan Osman

@Serg The one that short-circuits the host controller?

user136984

@Zacharee1: Well, I bought Norton Internet Security and I found it rather over protective which is something I liked... :P

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda I do a good enough job with my brain it seems

Terrance

9:03 PM

@NathanOsman That's Ransomware

Serg

@NathanOsman no, it has some large capacitors inside, gathers current , then reverses it back into the usb port

Nathan Osman

I know.

Fabby

@Zacharee1 That's @ParanoidPanda's main problem: not thinking with his right head!

Nathan Osman

@Serg You can buy an optically-isolated hub to work around that one.

Terrance

@NathanOsman Ah, you were answering someone.

Zacharee1

9:03 PM

sigh

Serg

@NathanOsman yup, but . . . how many people do that ?

Nathan Osman

@Serg Very few :P

But how many people plug in random USB devices they find lying around?

Zacharee1

idk why I'm even on here. I just had a 100F fever

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Oh my!

Fabby

Ah! Found the ransomware!

Serg

9:04 PM

^_^ raising hand i would do that before i got smarter . . . @NathanOsman

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Get some rest and use chilled cloths to cool yourself down.

@Serg Then our job is to educate people.

Zacharee1

I don't have it that bad anymore, but I am going to lie down

ttfn

Nathan Osman

I mean... who finds a random discarded appliance by the side of the road, takes it home, and plugs it in?

That's practically begging for problems.

Serg

@NathanOsman em . . . .a lot of people do that . . . . free stuff makes people forget everything about security

Nathan Osman

"Oh lookie here - a discarded circuit-board-looking thing. Imma take it home and plug it in to see what it does!"

user136984

9:06 PM

I just saw a blue version of this on the left side of my profile picture here but it went away before I could see what it was, what was it?

Nathan Osman

@Serg Wow. That's actually pretty scary.

user136984

Nathan Osman

@ParanoidPanda A chat flag.

user136984

Wait, what? I haven't got 10k yet...

Serg

My friend's sister in law , actually took in a PC lying outside some home . . . .I snooped around it . . . admin account had no password, there was a resume with previous owner info : email, address, phone, everything . . .

Nathan Osman

9:08 PM

That is a fail on so many accounts...

user136984

@A.B.: Do you know anything about this by the way? :)

user136984

I guess I reached 10k in chat...

Nathan Osman

You did.

Serg

I deleted all that, but man . . . .did those people never hear of identity theft ? or phishing ?

Nathan Osman

Yeah, pretty poor on their part.

user136984

9:09 PM

Cool! :)

user139252

What are we talking about here?

Nathan Osman

All manner of things.

Destructive USB devices, viruses, etc.

user136984

user139252

Like the USB device that will fry your computer in seconds?

user136984

I think that was the one... :P

Serg

9:12 PM

@HeatherBrown yup, the USB killer

Nathan Osman

@HeatherBrown If you don't have an optically isolated hub, yes.

Mateo

@NathanOsman Ive done it before

Serg

i've been lurking a bit on security stack site

user139252

@Serg I wear glasses ;P

Nathan Osman

@Mateo You have to be careful though.

Mateo

9:13 PM

you find intresting things about some people...

yeah.

Serg

@HeatherBrown <.< oh, you found that part of conversation too blushing

user139252

You smoke, though. That's a deal breaker.

user136984

:D

Mateo

I don't smoke ;)

lol

Serg

I'm working on that part :)

user136984

9:15 PM

@Serg: Next you should ask "What kind of glasses?"... :P

Nathan Osman

Three rules:
1. If you don't know where an attachment came from, don't open it
2. If you don't know where a USB device came from, don't plug it in
3. Bacon is awesome.

3

Serg

hides a block of Pyramids behind his back

A.B.

@Serg what?

user139252

@ParanoidPanda X-Ray vision?

Serg

@A.B. @Fabby was saying something about rain dancing, and I've no idea what he's talking about. Do you understand vorlon slang ?

@NathanOsman also add don't click unknown links

Nathan Osman

9:17 PM

That too.

A.B.

@Serg no :)

/me now sleeping, back in 8 hours. :)

Serg

Aaanyway, where was I ? oh, right . . . .i was on my way out . . . .

user136984

@A.B.: Goodnight! :)

Serg

sudo close chat && drive-to-campus

printf %s bye

Byte Commander

o/

Mateo

9:18 PM

just unplug your computer, then thermite the thing - then you are good ;p

user139252

@NathanOsman The first thing I do when I find any strange USB device is insert it...into the nearest garbage receptacle.

Nathan Osman

O...kay...

--- FAIL: TestChanRecv (0.00s)
	chan_test.go:28: true != true

That was helpful.

user136984

@Serg: Bye! :)

user139252

True is not equal to true. Don't you get it?

Nathan Osman

@HeatherBrown Probably the wisest thing to do.

@HeatherBrown Oh I happen to know what's going on in this particular case. But that doesn't excuse the poor error message :P

Mateo

9:22 PM

@NathanOsman no internet + live CD/DVD + photorec

Nathan Osman

@Mateo Yup.

I would definitely not let anything onto my private home network that wasn't personally verified by me.

If someone comes over, they get connected to the guest network :)

Fabby

Dumb question at first but nifty question after editing and even niftier answer:

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Q: How do I completely nuke my system and start afresh?

On a brand new DoS only laptop I installed Ubuntu. I got Unable to create disk partitions so I used a Windows7 installation CD to create disk partitions. I ended up erasing the disk with the Ubuntu and now on booting it goes straight to grub rescue where all disk partitions are unknown filesystem...

boot grub2 windows

(question rescued from the close queue)

Mateo

@Fabby if you can even get nukes...

Fabby

@Mateo Try recovering from a new partition table...

Nathan Osman

Uhm... askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/486911

> "Note: The code above works with bash but may not work correctly with sh."

Mateo

9:26 PM

in the desert with a very long remote detnator ;P

Nathan Osman

[citation needed]

Mateo

then buy a new one :)

user139252

@NathanOsman That edit seems silly and useless. Also, doesn't the inclusion of !#/bin/bash force it to use bash?

Nathan Osman

Well, yes and no.

It will use Bash if the file is executable and run from a shell.

Mateo

well, the church tv is almost done, just need a network run

turns out the mini pc has a strange wifi that crashes the kernel, won't run with it on in the bios

Fabby

9:31 PM

@NathanOsman Nothing bash-specific!

Nathan Osman

That's what I thought.

Fabby

Reject???

Nathan Osman

As far as I can tell, it doesn't apply...

Mateo

2

Q: How to install ubuntu on an Asus VivoPC vm60?

I recently tried installing Ubuntu 14.04 on a new Asus VivoPC vm60 and it didn't work. The grub loader would abort with the message: drm_kms_helper: panic occured... I wasn't able to find any direct help regarding this so I thought I would post my solutions here.

software-installation

Fabby

Bricked Windows: VTC please

Mateo

9:35 PM

so, that - but I guess a newer kernel regressed back to the same issue

we are going to plug it in to ethernet, so not a big deal...

user136984

Oh no... The UK government wants to pass a bill the means that they will keep our internet records for a year and can know everything we've looked at and sent on message apps... It disgusts me how they even say: "Almost certainly the way in which the firms could co-operate would be to turn off the encryption and give people the illusion it is still taking place,"

user136984

@Tim @Oli: You guys are in the UK aren't you so you will be affected by this too if they pass the bill?

Mateo

@ParanoidPanda let's just run every internet line back to rome - let the pope setup a supermassive data center...

user136984

9:54 PM

What is the actual name for this !#? I mean in terms of having !#/bin/bash at the beginning of a bash script.

Mateo

but, yeah, this totally is going to cause companies to setup more extensive internal networks, that don't even use the internet

Nathan Osman

@ParanoidPanda It's referred to as "shebang".

Mateo

chrunch bang, shebang - exclamation point, hashtag

user139252

I'm on telegram now!

Nathan Osman

@ParanoidPanda And now you've got it backwards.

Mateo

9:56 PM

@ParanoidPanda pling pound?

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