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12:00 AM
well, I think it is supposed to... I dunno.
 
I just hoped that for once Google would use it's "user-tailored content" bullshittery for something more valuable than ads.
But who am I kidding, that ain't gonna happen.
 
Google == "live with it"
 
true
Sooo ... a less annoying subject. Election nominations start soon, "wheeeeee!"
 
true.
whelp, gotta run for now.
 
12:37 AM
Anyone else experiencing problems in closing? AJAX request keeps loading and times out...
works again now. was probably TL
 
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Q: Cannot vote to close as duplicate sometimes

GillesI'm voting to close mark "Premium SSL" vs "Stanard SSL" certificates - Any reason why I would want a "Premium SSL"? as a duplicate. It already has 4 votes to close as a duplicate of What are the advantages of EV Certificate?. But when I click “duplicate”, the wind...

 
@Seth I know, but that's fixed
 
supposedly.
 
12:52 AM
@amithkk Nope! Still the previous error T__T
 
A wild @Mochan appears.
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@FEichinger Mochan uses Hi - it's not effective at all!
 
How's life @FEichinger?
(Are you any good with VirtualBox?)
 
"Hey, how are you - Can you help me with that?"
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@Mochan It's boring as usual, that's pretty much it. How about you?
@Mochan Not really. Depends on what you need there.
 
12:56 AM
@FEichinger Not so bad.
@FEichinger Kernel problems.
 
@Mochan Yeh, I'm not gonna be much use with that.
 
@FEichinger XD
 
1:17 AM
hi @Mochan
 
@mateo_salta Hey mateo_saita :D
 
Thinkpad. :)
 
1:34 AM
@Flabricorn nice ;)
 
lol
 
I should have custom rejected with a silly message :D
 
Meh, they won't see it anyway.
 
true, but somebody will see it someday... and then they will laugh.
 
Oh, that was an approve-meh. :P
 
1:40 AM
or would have laughed.
@FEichinger lol
 
See, that works way better in speech.
"Meh." and "Meh." sound totally different.
 
totally.
 
Yeh!
 
Yeh.
I'm only 50 rep from 3k :D
 
Awesome :D Meh.
 
1:43 AM
OK, dinner time
@FEichinger lol
 
are you in the west-ish time zone or do you eat dinner late @Seth
 
@mateo_salta PST time
 
@Seth cool, Is the weather nice over there? It's snowing where I'm at.
 
@mateo_salta pretty foggy.
and when its not foggy its raining :(
then, when we do get a day of sunshine its too wet to do anything.
 
2:02 AM
Reminds me of home.
My daily luck-check failed. Losing Hold'Em with two pairs, tens and twos to a full house, tens full of twos is kinda frustrating.
 
shrug
 
jrg
2:55 AM
@Seth heh. I have an eBook somewhere explaining networking.
I haven't finished.
Networking is a dark, arcane art in some respects.
@Mateo you near me or something? We've got snow too.
 
close enough...
I'm really close to @AbrahamVanHelpsing
 
jrg
Oh, cool.
 
you are just a few states over right
 
jrg
Gotcha. So you probably are getting the tail end of the stuff hitting us here.
Yeah, north Ohio.
 
I think you are getting the stuff that hit us the other day, and we are in for another round
 
jrg
3:06 AM
Lovely.
 
hmm, maybe not... looks like it dies down if you hit the future button..
later
 
Back to Cinnamon Desktop! :D
 
3:50 AM
askubuntu.com/questions/111816/… <-- there's even a link to a similar question. all you have to do for the rep is extract the details...
 
This is a bug ...but do we have an existing question that covers this, that it can be duped to?
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Q: The application compiz has closed unexpectedly

suhaasi have installed ubuntu 12.10 on my desktop. its configuration is pentium 4, 80GB hardisk,2 GB ram, 32 bit. i have installed windows XP. i have made a partion of 40 GB for windows and 40 for unbuntu. i have installed ubuntu and it said installation is complete and asked me to restart. i restarted...

 
@EliahKagan That brings up an interesting side-effect of the dupe target no accepted answer thing... just saying
 
4:13 AM
@AbrahamVanHelpsing You mean that, when a question is closed as a bug and has no answers, other questions about the same bug cannot be duped to it?
 
there was something on MSO about a new "feature" that doesn't allow dupe-ing to unanswered questions...so i think that would be a side-effect
it means we'll have to create and answer questions for every bug that say "this is a bug" and accept it then dupe to that
or dupe to some generic bug question instead of one that has a link to the bug on launchpad....
 
Or we can just close them all as off-topic, provide a link to the Launchpad bug if there is one, and provide a link to other relevant open or closed questions (with or without answers). Still, I think we should be able to close questions as duplicates of unanswered questions, and this is one of the reasons. This, and self-dupes. How are we supposed to close them?!
 
there is no shortage of people that don't like the feature
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4:59 AM
i wonder how long it will be before there's an apt-get install raspi (developer) package like there is an arduino package
 
5:27 AM
Actually, it appears questions can be duped to older, unanswered questions by the same OP (example).
 
6:14 AM
okay...i was just regurgitating a heated issue that has been - discussed a lot -
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Yes, you have my sympathies. And if your position is that the recent change is not so good, then I am in 100% agreement. I'm open to Shog9 or someone changing my mind...but nothing anybody has said yet has come close to doing that.
 
6:43 AM
hi
@AbrahamVanHelpsing you there?
help with at command, anyone?
 
@Peachy I haven't used at much, but what's the issue?
 
@EliahKagan this is probably an easy one, I'd like to know where or how do I specify an address with the -m flag? According to the man pages is sends mail to the user once the job is done
 
@Peachy I think you have to be running an MTA to use that effectively.
You may want to post a question on the site about that; if an MTA is required, someone may be able to answer with a software recommendation and instructions for installing and configuring it for this purpose.
 
@EliahKagan Okay, thank you and hello by the way :)
 
@Peachy Hi! :)
 
7:20 AM
[hello everyone!
 
@Mahesh Hi.
 
HALP ME!
 
@Mahesh With what?
 
erm, a wierd issue that popped all of a sudden.
my X wont start.
lightdm starts and then stops immediately for no reason.
I manually started X and unity, and now I have a messed up partially working Graphical display.
I want to investigate this. where do I look?
syslog has nothing that helps..
no recent package install/uninstallations since last succesful boot..
any ideas?
btw, how are you? :P
 
@Mahesh Ok. Thx.
@Mahesh If the problem arose from manually starting X and Unity, rebooting and allowing them to start normally should fix the problem. As for how to investigate the problem, you can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, the logs in /var/log/lightdm, and .xsession-errors and .xsession-errors.old in your home directory. You can also log on as guest to see if the problem is user-specific, as it might be that you are logged in but then the session terminates immediately.
 
7:25 AM
the problem did not arise because I started things manually.
the problem is that i had to start them manually.
and nopes.. nothing of use in xsession errors..
lightdm stopped immediately after starting during bootup.
that must be the main issue. either I find what caused it, or reinstall the system. Its exam time and I need my machine badly. :(
btw, you contesting this time?
strange.. I have a gnome style notification system here.
I messed with gnome stuff long ago. that caused all this. :/
its trying to start nonexistent gdm
/me reinstalls.
 
 
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Q: How to truely install a tar.gz file on Linux, and register it to the sytem (eg: what to do after I compile something?)

RaekyeI see all these links explaining packages and .debs... I know that... and there are many kludges to get tar.gz files working (eg: update-alternatives for Java or manually dropping the file in /usr/local/bin (or somewhere else, which I had deduced from hours of searching)). If packages are so smar...

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Q: mv: try to overwrite `/opt/sana/media', overriding mode 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)?

Thota Madhu Sudhan RaoI tried to move like as follows: ./* to /opt/sana Then it asked this: mv: try to overwrite `/opt/sana/media', overriding mode 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)? Now, how do I override the files in current folder to /opt/sana.

 
 
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10:58 AM
@jrg @Oli why dont we resurrect the AU classroom?
 
hi all
 
hi
 
I am on Ubuntu 12.10 and I am trying to switch off the screensaver
but I can't. Basically everytime I watch a movie or video, after 10/15 mins screen
turn to black
and I have to press a key or move the cursor to back to screen
any idea how to switch screensaver off permanently?
 
simple solution. use caffine.
better solution? I have no idea. :P
wait..
you need to disable it permanently?
 
yes
 
11:05 AM
check brightness and lock in dash
 
I don't use unity
 
you have an option there asking you when to lock.
 
anyway I tried that in unity
 
oh. desktop environment?
 
gnome-fallback
 
11:06 AM
what DE do you use?
okay.
 
@Randomize anything of help there: askubuntu.com/questions/67355/… ?
 
@Takkat I already tried that but it doesn't work for me
 
hmm - could not try it - still 12.04 here.
 
that prettymuch covers everything..
wait.. I'm on 12.10
I'll report back in ten min.
 
settings may have moved to dconf
 
11:12 AM
gsettings uses dconf
 
But idk what if you dont run Unity :/
 
I'm trying xset s off
 
I tried with xset s off too
no luck
 
xset affects X wntirely.
let's see. :P
bbl. in ten min
 
@Mahesh pretty sure you will find it :)
 
11:13 AM
anyway, you can try caffiene.
its a thirdparty app in a PPA
it can smartly disable screensaver when certain programs are launched/videos are played.
okay. will test that later. :P I can't wait ten min without wiggling my mouse
 
that sounds like an awesome app
 
o/ @jokerdino
 
@Mahesh o/
 
@jokerdino !!!! o/
 
@Takkat o////
 
11:16 AM
lol
 
I'm having exams these days, so rewrite kind of stalled.
 
@Mahesh no worries. i understand.
 
We will grey out search. feb 7 is a deadline I set for myself. we bump to 0.2 landing rewrite and backup and restore.
search targets S. we'll make it into R-updates probably.
 
@Mahesh we don't have 0.1 right now
 
okayish?
argh.. wait..
we are on 0.0.1 right?
 
11:19 AM
we are on 0.0.1
err, 0.0.2
 
kay. we need a bump on minor for rewrite.
search can bump the patch.
so 0.1.0 for rewrite.
 
if you got my email a while ago, i set the team feb 14 as deadline
whatever didn't land will land next cycle
 
yup.
I got that mail.
 
so, anything you finish until that point will be good enough
 
the app is incomplete without the themes tab being fully done.
 
11:20 AM
I am trying caffeine - thank you guys
 
@Randomize happy to help. :)
 
@Mahesh that should probably get higher attention from you
 
@Randomize good luck - tell us how it worked
 
a couple hours and it works in the rewrite.
I dreamt of a plan yesterday.
as in seriously, I got a dream. :P
 
lol
 
11:23 AM
it was bugging me. all settings are independent and the only links are conditional enable/disable as of now.
and themes demand entirely different set of capabilities.
now I sketched out a solution. wrapper that handles two keys at once.
 
i'll admit. i lost track of the project
 
it has two children, each handles the tree. they communicate through parent.
 
i dont know what is in and what is in works
 
oh.. yeah development kind of stalled except for sam's bug fixes.
I lost track of the main branch.
main as in devel.
 
ah, that one.
 
11:26 AM
:P
cya.
 
last time i checked, we were yet to finish appearance tab and search
 
/me gets back to digital communications
 
and then you started work on rewrite
and then i lost touch
@Mahesh cya
 
@jokerdino we have made little progress since then. bug fixes and design improvements.
search is officially postponed.
 
so, we just need to get done with rewrite
 
11:27 AM
yup.
 
i am waiting on you then.
 
that fixes appearance.
I guess the entire team is..
 
apparently, yes :P
 
:P
 
when can i expect anything from you then?
 
11:29 AM
too bad we didn't 'start' with rewrite.
feb 7th, I'll deliver a fully working app.
 
that would be nice. thank you.
that's just 4 days though.
 
Do we have a question for how to customize Ubuntu to remove and replace material with Canonical's trademarks?
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Q: How to redistribute Ubuntu?

Shivam PandyaI have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Ubuntu/Kubuntu and Server) and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I want to change its backgrounds and packages in the ISO image, so when I Install it, the modified versions are installed. And I want to redistribute the modified version. I also want to replace the kernel with a new kerne...

 
3 days for my exams, followed by a nightout. :P
 
(If so, that can be closed as a duplicate.)
 
@Mahesh way to go boss.
btw, Someone said the restore button didn't work in cursor. is that fixed in your rewrite?
@EliahKagan in other words, debranding and rebranding?
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Q: How to de-brand Ubuntu?

Sean RiceI am working on an Ubuntu Mod, and I would like to change the name/splash screen/login screen/etc in order to make it a more customized environment. I've been able to change all of the names shown via the terminal, but no luck as of yet using gconftool-2 to change anything else. Am I missing so...

 
11:32 AM
@jokerdino Yes. Making a custom rebranded version.
 
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Q: How to customize live Ubuntu CD?

karthick87I would like to customize Ubuntu live CD by installing some additional packages. I have followed this link but it doesn't seems to work. Can anyone provide clear instructions? Thanks in advance! Customization Packages that I want to install: Thunderbird Samba SSH Changes that I ne...

theres also some words on themes etc.
 
@jokerdino it should be.
 
@Takkat That's an excellent one with great answers but doesn't seem to address the branding issue specifically, does it?
 
since I dont write code that says reset this.
 
@Mahesh Neat.
I'll wait until I hear from you on Feb 7. All the best with your exams!
 
11:33 AM
I tell a tab you have these things, and to the tabmaker I say reset every child to reset the tab.
 
Or should I say, all the best for your exams.
 
then everything is taken care of, automagically.
 
magic. yep
 
did I say I love magic?
 
you did.
 
11:34 AM
probably snwh is going to kill me after rewrite.
 
i might too.
 
lol..
since had we started with rewrite instead of the way we did now, we would have avoided all repetition and stuff
 
that's two months ago.
 
and guess what? rewrite makes it possible to write those automated tests.
motu seems to love automated tests.
 
@EliahKagan it may not be complete in terms of removing all Canonical/Ubuntu references but at least answers tell us a lot on where to look to change themes, wapplapers, apps, and so on.
 
11:36 AM
i <3 automated tests too
 
okay. time to look at the book. :P
 
cya
 
oh dear, why "wapplapers"? I may still be a bit hangoverish.
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There, enjoy the free star.
 
lol
 
11:39 AM
LOL :P
 
appears
 
disappears
 
Hi @AmithKK cya @Mahesh
 
> You've earned the "Caucus" badge for an election. See your profile.
How is that even possible
 
@AmithKK You earn it even if you visit an election that is in the nonstarted phase.
 
11:41 AM
I'm running
 
@AmithKK how long?
 
@Mahesh For the elections lol
I went for a spell bee today
It was fun
 
@EliahKagan you're in for the race?
and what about @jokerdino ?
he always wanted that diamond to do all evil. :P
(jk)
 
Sorry guys, timed out a little
@Mahesh Mwuahaha
Due to change in plans, I am not going home town during the election but right after that.
@seth ^
 
you missed a 'i' there iirc
 
11:49 AM
I am still thinking hard about whether I should nominate myself though.
 
What are you nominating yourself for? Mayor? :)
 
@Mahesh Did I?
@DennisKaarsemaker Something even bigger. AU mod ;)
 
@jokerdino nope. iSeth promoted himself to seth sometime while I was away
 
You sure you want to do that? It's an awful job :)
 
@Mahesh Oh that one. Yep. He did.
 
11:51 AM
@jokerdino Go! Go! Go!
 
Go Go Gadget!!
 
@DennisKaarsemaker You could be very well right.
 
Go Go Gadget Moderator!!
 
@AmithKK :P
 
@jokerdino I was #ubuntu irc mod for years. It's not a fun job :)
 
11:52 AM
IRC mod is a harder job though.
 
if dino and eliah nominate, I'm going to actively campaign for them.
 
yeah, more trolls
 
@DennisKaarsemaker and live activity
You can't take a breather.
@Mahesh Thanks. blushes
 
@Mahesh Not me? ;)
 
OK, I am not actually blushing.
 
11:54 AM
@AmithKK nominate yourself first. :P
 
@jokerdino better blush than fade
 
@Mahesh Well.. the election should start
 
oh. you dont nominate first and then proceed to elections?
I have absolutely no idea. :|
 
@Takkat Heh, blue mod ought to know it better.
@Mahesh it does work that way
but nominations are considered part of elections
nominations, primary and voting
 
no idea how election goes, and no idea why i am looking at the same page since morning. :P
@jokerdino oh.
3 posts this time, right?
 
11:57 AM
Yep
 
user image
3
XD
@Mahesh Look at the old election
 
You need to write an essay telling people how awesome you are. That's the worst bit.
3
 
hahahah..
 
"I am awesome and will provide cookies for everyone who votes for me. Also, all the other suck"
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11:58 AM
It's just a 1200 character essay this time around though.
 
Or is that more a presidential election campaign?
 
@Mahesh Are you nominating yourself too?
 
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