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12:00 AM
@hbdgaf huh, that is strange it says 2, but I don't see you when I click, are you hidden, maybe drop a message somewhere to see If I can find you
There you are!
 
I played with it a bit more. The callbacks are triggering, but not working as I expect as of yet.
#!/usr/bin/env python

'''
Porting This sourceforge.net/projects/camdesk/?source=dlp (cool app from Mike, give him the money) following wiki.ubuntu.com/Novacut/GStreamer1.0

Many things are not yet working. Broken: -video appears in new window ~ -no settings window yet

What has been done:

Changes folowing the porting guide
All indents are using four spaces even on line breaks (or python3 complains)
What needs to be done:

somehow connect the video to widget
settings window is broke, debug and fix
The settings window is instantiated. I just hid it because it instantiates on run and gets all in the way. I need to change some things, but it's better than it was.
also, it doesn't get focus just by being a toplevel window...so keypresses don't work unless you click the not working video window. still... it's progress
i'm getting no video capture at all. what package did you use to get the video source to show at all?
 
@hbdgaf cool, it is printing your keypress messages
 
yeah, so they trigger. i think video isn't working so it's threadlocked and it's waiting for a capture thread that doesn't do anything to exit...hence my previous question
 
ah, it should be using v4l
These are his notes in the original readme:

"Now if you're having any problems running CamDesk for Linux make sure you have V4L (Video4Linux), GStreamer, and Python installed. As well as the following dependencies...
libgtk2.0-dev
libgtk2.0-doc
libglib2.0-doc

If you experience some problems testing CamDesk (black screen, first run successful and following run leading to black screen, …) check if your webcam is UVC (USB Video Class) Linux compliant. To do that, type in the terminal "lsusb".

Now head to http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/#devices and check to see if your webcam is compatible."
 
12:16 AM
negative. i have that installed.
also, grabbing the cam from opencv worked... so the cam is functional
 
The gstreamer stuff then, following the top of this? wiki.ubuntu.com/Novacut/GStreamer1.0#prepare-xwindow-id
 
maybe. i'm getting bored. i need to smoke and drink a coffee. see if it is invigorating. it might almost be easier to write the capture stuff from the sources i was using for the pebkac app
 
@ThomasW. Well I had something for you to VTC.. but I can't remember what it was anymore..
 
@Mateo ah, i'm missing GstVideo...
 
/me reads all comments of this question but can't blame @Seth
 
12:27 AM
@Mateo I was using opencv and qt
 
@Braiam phew
 
ah
 
user image
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O_O
 
O_O
 
@Mateo do you know what provides gi.repo.GstVideo?
 
12:30 AM
@hbdgaf speaking of coffee just got a new kind intelligentsiacoffee.com/product/coffee/… ,
 
I don't need better coffee. I need moar coffee.
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or more time... or less stress... or medication... or ooohhhh shiny.
 
There needs to be a tag for . People are using for it, but the wiki for it says it's for Apple computers.
And I lack the rep to create the tag.
 
@hbdgaf the plugins base? maybe gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 (in raring?) I used ppa for precise
 
@AndrewGrimm Hmm.
Got an example question?
 
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Q: Get MAC Address Of Accesspoint

user1392185How can I find out what the mac address of the w-lan accesspoint I'm connected to is?

 
12:38 AM
Done.
 
@Seth Thanks!
 
@AndrewGrimm No problem :)
btw, congrats on the gold ruby badge on SO :)
That's a lot of work..
 
@AndrewGrimm interesting, seems like that would be used more... for questions on spoofing finding ect.
 
nope...
 
12:48 AM
so it did provide the import, but it didn't solve the problem. that's what i meant
 
these comments after the post seem interesting: jderose.blogspot.com/2011/09/…
 
@AndrewGrimm I wouldn't create a mac-address, either use networking or wireless or whatever
WE NEED LESS TAGS. NO MORE!
 
I remember reading that when I thought pygi was a good idea. I use it now only out of habit. If I were learning to use something now, I would us pyqt. Gtk lost the works everywhere card, so it doesn't seem worthwhile any more. I just haven't relearned everything for Qt yet.
 
yeah, looks that way
 
holy shit...i'm a retard. just a sec
        self.on_keypress_dict[event.keyval]()
is not
        self.on_keypress_dict[event.keyval]
 
12:57 AM
/me gives some overdose to @hbdgaf, he's not working quite right yet ;)
 
doesn't fix the video issue, but most of the keypresses work. still need to fix the settings window instantiation and whatnot, but it's another step in the right direction
@Braiam there's too much blood in my nicotine and caffeine systems
removed
3 bugs solved, 5 created. grr
 
1:26 AM
@ThomasW. in this question he's mostly asking when will be the strings being available to translate, you know... schedule ;)
 
I think I beat even @jrg for flash drives this time >:D
 
@Mateo still around?
 
Hmm. Maybe that's not as good as I thought.
Strange.
 
everything seems fixed here except the video capture... if you're going to incorporate it on github let me fork it and suggest the commit...but it's here: pastebin.com/fj6vSjrV
heh....he found the wrong one of me. he was looking for schadenfreude
 
jrg
@Seth that's a flash drive?
hm
I'll need to find a Windows benchmark
and then I will try
 
1:40 AM
@jrg Yep.
 
jrg
I think I might beat you.
that was a flash drive, not a spinning rust, right?
 
I am using this in Windows and I used disk manager in Ubuntu.
@jrg Yes.
 
jrg
ok
lemme find a usb stick
 
@hbdgaf I think I added you, I'll try and work backwards
@hbdgaf oh, not you, or a different you?
 
multiplicity
i don't try to be disingenuous. it just happens ;)
 
jrg
1:44 AM
so that's the ssd.
about what I expected.
(it's a little busy right now)
 
@Mateo anyway, it works mostly. i still have to fix the window parenting... but some of the bugs you had before are gone. settings window works and it recenters like it should on resize - which the original didn't even when setting worked. so yeah. are you sure you wanted it centered? shouldn't it be lower right justified or something?
@jrg anyway was not directed at you... they're distinct conversations. just making sure i didn't ruffle feathers
 
jrg
@hbdgaf huh. i was very obviously paying attention and stuff.
;p
 
@hbdgaf that would be cool, original centered it but I think that would be something worth changing up
 
derp derpady derp derp
 
jrg
(you know me. I'm very laid back. Until I'm not. you can call me an idiot to my face and I will probably shrug.)
 
1:47 AM
@Mateo yeah, cuz everybody wants their cam capture right in the middle of the screen...
 
face to face!
 
jrg
@hbdgaf I want mine bottom right hand corner.
 
eggggggzactly
 
lets do it, did I follow the real you @hbdgaf
 
let me sort out the rest of the migration to pygi crap, then i'll try it
@Mateo they're all real. i just use them for different things.
 
1:49 AM
@Braiam It's still "offtopic" here, because it's only relevant to a given dev cycle
so the use of the "In dev cycle" response is still valid.
who marked that for reopening anyways
 
@jrg Pretty fast.
My flash drive breaks down on small files.
That's the windows benchmark of the same drive
 
jrg
I'm trying to get it to recognize my USB3 drive.
it's having a bad day appearently.
 
I hate Windows' problems with recognizing USB drives.
My computer is really good at that >.>
 
I hate Windows... just generally
 
jrg
Eh. It's been a fairly stable system for me.
 
1:53 AM
@hbdgaf I like Windows 8.. but that's it.
 
jrg
I don't like it, but the fact is I don't have time to tinker with Ubuntu to make it like my hardware right now.
although fedora 20 livecds work well
 
What hardware doesn't run like a scalded dog on Xubuntu?
 
jrg
it's not that, it's my nvidia and latest intel stuff.
 
ah... once I nuked UEFI, everything just worked for me
 
jrg
 
1:55 AM
Which program is that?
 
dammit. apt-get upgrade broke flash on trusty in chromium
 
jrg
something else that worked
it's called "CrystalDisk"
 
@ThomasW. mm... if I'm not mistaken the dates are fixed to the roadmaps according to the string freezes (which is somehow my answer was directed, and removed the 14.04 reference), or I did loose something after couple... well 4-5 years without translating stuff?
 
jrg
flashbench doesn't like it for some reason
 
1:57 AM
easy listening for code problems...
 
@Braiam except the cycle dates change from cycle to cycle, so it's still the equivalent of "Only relevant to a specific time period" for any answers
 
jrg
there we go. started as admin and it's doing it now.
 
i.e. offtopic
 
jrg
@Seth I just got 175MB read.
Write is 20-30MB
is that possible with USB3?
 
Yeah.
Wait till it's done thoguh
Lemme reboot and try that app
 
jrg
2:00 AM
ok, for the small files it fell through the floor.
drools
amazon.com/Patriot-16GB-Supersonic-Boost-Series/dp/… | weird, mine is only supposed to do 90MB/sec. O_o
 
@jrg Well still faster than mine in Win 7:
Barely.. but it is
 
jrg
@Seth so there's the thing
i rarely ever see speeds like that
i've seen those real world once.
I was copying a 10GB SQL dump from my SSD to it.
haven't seen that type of performance since.
 
:-/
It's a pity alright.
/me want thunderbolt..
 
jrg
we keep coming up with faster transfer mechanisms.
but the mediums are still the slowest part.
99% of people will never saturate their SATA interface.
let alone their SATA II.
why?
because they don't have a drive that can do that.
SSDs/flash is making inroads, but the backbone is still the part that is left untouched.
 
mine still spins
 
jrg
2:10 AM
at work, we have a gig fiber internet line. you know how much we use?
(that's peered with all sorts of goodies, like google and (3 hops later) rackspace)
LESS THAN 50MB AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME.
again, it's because the transfer mechanism is wicked fast.
but the mediums (storage) are slow.
 
for those that don't know, Ubuntu actually follows a roadmap
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jrg
sorry, I don't mean to get emotional about it/rant. But this is important for people to understand. ;p
 
@ThomasW. that's what I meant. It isn't T-30 days some deadline?
 
jrg
@Braiam Oh, so you're saying it isn't just Mark flipping coins?
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because that's what I always thought things were.
 
@jrg I allways imagined him throwing darts
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2:13 AM
@jrg only half of the things are like that... the other half is where the miracle happens ;)
 
@jrg Always room for improvement
 
jrg
@Mateo Darts is more of a "I'm a millionaire. DEAL WITH IT" thing.
granted, that is what he is. ;p
 
He's been to the ISS too..
 
jrg
@Seth yes, there is. But that's my little rant for the week. gets off his soapbox
 
That's something I wish I could do someday.
 
jrg
2:15 AM
they had a cooling problem today
crew is fine,
 
gawd...where is the GST_MESSAGE_TYPE enum in pygi. this is IRRITATING!
 
@jrg Yikes.
Still not very safe yet lol.
 
jrg
@Seth crew is not in danger, they have a failsafe.
hey, nobody has died in space yet.
Only on the ground/trying to get there.
 
@jrg True enough.
@jrg I realize that.
Still..
 
jrg
2:17 AM
Yup.
ok, i'm being fatalistic. I should go do something else with my evening.
cya guys.
 
@jrg See ya.
I'm out too.
 
 
it's connecting signals directly instead of using message constants. it means, irritating. i had already read that...
 
ah
 
it just reminds me why i prefer pyqt... it's mostly done. i should just finish kludging around a broken library
 
2:42 AM
making it work is more this: bazaar.launchpad.net/~jderose/+junk/gst-examples/view/head:/… and less that. it's just a copy paste with a different source and some minor modifications. it would have been simpler to fork his junk folder and modify the window than muck about with making it migrate.
 
sounds like a good plan, we could even name it entirely different and such
easier to add from something that is already working
 
it would be sort of a mashup, but yeah. gst is so structurally different in pygi that it's like they're trying to break stuff.
anyway. i'll hit you back with something eventually. i'm just irritated with some me stuff and it's bleeding over in with my already existing pygi irritation.
 
3:04 AM
@hbdgaf cool, it's been fun, I'm heading out to play games, let me how know you want to push/pull restart abandon, however this project is going later
 
yerp
 
ok, one feature I miss in opera is saving whole sets of tabs...
hm, Home page them All! for now
 
in chromium it's shift+ctl+d for bookmark all tabs...
@Mateo remember to poing me about this stuff. i'll probs forget i meant to do anything with it, but i have the junk from jderose bookmarked and followed the you repo. so i should be reminded if i maintain my social bits. that's one of my weak areas though
 
 
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4:24 AM
0
Q: How to post links and commands?

Avinash RajHow do i post links in comments and commands in chat? whenever i post a link with a tag in comments,it doesn't work.And whenever i post a command with backtics in chat,it also won't work.

 
0
Q: im scared for my health

Sarah BentI was in the bath and I put an empty perfume bottle in my anus as I was very horny I was bored if normal sex so I tried this I was liking it and when I pulled the bottle put the lid was gone so I rushed to the toilet and had a poo just to make sure it would come out. I cant feel anything up there...

@Mitch see the above link
@Mateo you also
 
 
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5:32 AM
0
Q: Limit CPU cycles inside of Xen

HamyI'd like to run some minimum-expectation benchmarks on EC2, but I'm having an issue of high variability in my output data. Specifically, they keep giving me more CPU than I'm minimally entitled to, which is killing my ability to evaluate minimum performance when I'm only receiving my minimal CPU ...

 
5:49 AM
Hi,
I am trying to block new TCP packets which have flags set along with SYN. Like SYN & FIN set at same time. Will the below rule for iptables suffice-
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --tcp-flags ! ALL SYN -j DROP
 
 
3 hours later…
8:55 AM
@Mateo - here. haven't done bottom right justification yet, and it segfaults on setting state to play. it probably either has to do with not being able to find a place in the stream since it's live or not resizing the video to fit the display surface: pastebin.com/DFYGcZH1
 
9:31 AM
anyway, pygi Gst is either busted or undocumented... so totally not worth it at this point. new apps should really use it, but it's quite painful when nothing works as you would expect.
 
10:01 AM
@hbdgaf how do i flag a wrong answer
 
I don't know that you flag something for being wrong... You just vote if it doesn't work for you. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it's wrong, unless it's some bash obfuscation that expands to rm -Rf / or something
 
10:18 AM
bottom right justification works now. if only gst worked... pastebin.com/AWYK4vJA
 
10:41 AM
Yay meetings
 
least helpful error message ever: TypeError: 'Iterator' object is not iterable
 
11:13 AM
HUH:
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Q: is there any limitation of __fpurge()?

DevI am using fgets(), before that i need to flush stdin( to clear previous buffered characters), and i am using __fpurge() for the same. But this function not properly clering the stdin when entered/buffered characters are around 1000 . Can any one tell me is there any kind of limit on __fpurge()...

off-topic
fpurge is a C(++) function
 
Bored
 
11:28 AM
Me two.
@kalina, something to kill the time:
 
11:51 AM
SteamOS Available To Download on December 13:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/steamos-available-download-december-13
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Q: Basic guide to deal with answers

BraiamWith the recent acquisition of 10K reputation I've seen people flagging NAA wrong answers... this is not what the Not an Answer flag is for, for that is the Down Vote button! In which cases NAA should be used (OMG, I can't believe I have to explain this): When you should flag: If the answer a...

 
12:40 PM
And, now am bored again!
 
12:52 PM
 
Yes.
I flagged it as spam
Could someone flag/delete this:
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Q: is there any limitation of __fpurge()?

user224725I am using fgets(), before that i need to flush stdin( to clear previous buffered characters), and i am using __fpurge() for the same. But this function is not properly clearing the stdin when entered/buffered characters are around 1000 . Can any one tell me is there any kind of limit on __fpur...

They guy already deleted his account on askubuntu
but left his off-topic question(The Q is about the limitation of a C function)
 
@blade19899 don't worry, it's already in the queue
 
@Braiam, aight.
 
1:13 PM
@Braiam is that i does anything wrong
 
@AvinashRaj wrong answers are not to be flagged, that is in essence what the message wanted to say. If you are not sure, you should check the table ;)
 
1:42 PM
Three billion devices run Java. #FiveWordTechHorrors
 
2:05 PM
If i get accepted to a new school, i have to learn Java. Excited, but also worried. Is Java relatively easy to learn? And are there some on-line sites to learn Java?
 
Oli
2:34 PM
@blade19899 It's a programming language. It has its quirks but few languages don't.
The main problem these days is because Java is so old, so many different people have so many different ways of doing the same (or roughly the same) thing. If I were you, I'd just pick up a book and nail it until you "know" Java. After that you'll benefit more from random tutorials because you'll have the confidence to say "No, that's a crappy way of doing that, I'll adapt it"
 
2:50 PM
@Oli, thanks! any book u would recommend?
 
Oli
I've ever only owned one (an ugly yellow Lewis and Loftus thing)... But this was 10 years ago. I've no idea what the new king is. Won't your syllabus set you one?
 
 
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4:09 PM
@Amith! Buddy! Pal!
 
@GraceNote Hey!
Wassup?
 
What do you know about training guides for getting Ubuntu started and distributing within a new company? ♪
 
You're talking about deployments right?
 
Yeah. For someone looking to start fresh at a new company where they plan to be using Ubuntu instead of Windows.
 
Wait a sec
there was this SF question
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Q: Best way to deploy ubuntu onto 100s of laptops?

askvictorI'm deploying a few hundred laptops next year. I want them to be dual boot machines, and have the windows side of things worked out using sysprep. For the second OS I want to use Ubuntu, but am uncertain how best to configure this. I can load a disk-image easily onto the disk, but when it boots, ...

There's FAI
and then there's puppet
@jrg uses it. He would know alot about it
 
4:13 PM
Mmkay.
 
4:25 PM
BBT
Good Night
 
I have to leave for dinner.
If any body free , look at this issue.
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Q: export: * not a valid identifier, whenever I use bash?

andydraysenI keep seeing -bash: export: `=': not a valid identifier -bash: export: `/usr/lib/jvm/default-java': not a valid identifier -bash: export: `=': not a valid identifier -bash: export: `/usr/share/tomcat7': not a valid identifier I know its when I was installing tomcat7 and java stuff but I ...

thank you
 
4:56 PM
@Seth I want to get rid of the ... just lost a question that I could have an answer and only had that tag... and it wasn't the reviewers fault.
BTW, this two questions are way too similar askubuntu.com/q/375972/169736 askubuntu.com/q/389824/169736
 
jrg
@AmithKK someone said "puppet"?
@GraceNote oh
hello!
 
Hi @jrg
 
jrg
So I will say, I normally charge $50 just to say what I'm about to say, but i'm not consulting anymore on stuff like this. ;p
The long and short of it is that you want to read the Debian Handbook
and then you want to investigate puppet or saltstack for managing them.
The reason I say investigate is that puppet has a higher overhead than saltstack, and can be a pain to manage past a certain point.
But for installs, you want to look at doing a PXE server for anything more than 20 laptops.
the reason I say 20 is that you'll spend about 15 laptop installs worth of time figuring out PXE, and then the rest will be done in no time at all.
hope that helps, for some reason people would actually pay me to say that to them... :P
If you have questions, let me know. I would gladly spend an hour on a skype call or something explaining things in some more detail, like how this plays into LDAP and stuff.
 
5:13 PM
just me or unix.se cdn when kaput?
 
jrg
might be just you
loading fine here
 
@jrg Heh, not mine to give and alas I already sent the fellow off but if I get a response I'll toss that book their way.
 
jrg
@GraceNote fair enough.
consulting is weird. People would pay me to say exactly what I said above. which is, read this book, flip coins, and then we'll talk.
;p
 
Indeed
 
5:57 PM
boo!
@Braiam to me it is.
at least it is NOT a question :+)
 
6:28 PM
@Seth just to check how bad things are data.stackexchange.com/ubuntu/query/146225/…
> It boots on the machine it was burned on but not mine
 
7:07 PM
I'm not sure if this should be considered spam or not.
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A: Natural Sounding Text to Speech?

LincolnUse Spokentext.net. That is what I use nowadays. It is only $30 per year. It can be used on any operating system, pc, tablet, phone.

but I'm going to flag it anyway.
 
8:00 PM
0
Q: Could we get rid of all unuseful tags?

BraiamLets check this: http://data.stackexchange.com/ubuntu/query/146225/what-tag-is-most-common-for-first-posts Well, someone see the problem? I do. The version specific tags and a bunch of overly general tags are overwhelming us. We are not asking ourself: Who would filter using it? Who would t...

 
jrg
@Braiam version tags are important.
very important. I don't run 10.04 anymore, so I don't want to see anything related to it.
so I hide that tag.
I run 12.04 + server
and 13.04 + desktop
so I prioritize those.
 
@jrg you don't run, not should allow new questions with those tags
@jrg WAIT A DARN MINUTE! What differences are between servers in 12.04 and newer appart of the version of apache/php/stuff?
 
jrg
@Braiam So I filter out some things.
from the homepage
 
meh, I bet that even if you don't filter them you are able to answer them....
 
jrg
maybe.
but in other news, they are EOL.
so there aren't a lot of them
but I can't answer edge cases like that.
secleanup.com | ouch. below 70%.
O_0
 
8:16 PM
I found a "Social Network" to share files, made all with Free Software
 
@jrg they will get closed as they enter the system (or so should happen)
anyways, I AM LOSING QUESTIONS THAT INTEREST ME TO ANSWER BECAUSE OF THIS!
 
haha, right
 
@jrg and then, you bring that up...
 
jrg
@Braiam I don't think we have a tag problem.
 
of course our average will be low because folks doesn't find the questions they want to answer or are able to answer, AND THAT IS A TAG PROBLEM
really....
 
jrg
8:18 PM
eh. think of version tags like language tags on SO
i can't answer every single question on SO
 
nope...
 
jrg
but I can answer some + + questions.
and i definitely can answer a lot of questions now that I've done so much XML and HTML parsing.
 
@jrg I use Debian...!
@jrg but I bet you don't see SO making a new tag for each version of ubuntu, or debian... hey, not even UL does! and SU has too since vista since too many things changed between xp/vista/7/8
but even so, they don't create a new tag for version... and please don't use mysql, becasue they have a master mssql tag and one of 2005, 2008, 2013 but ubuntu release 1 version each 6 months!
Ok, lets be fair, show me a single case where the tag is useful by its own.
@jrg could you write an answer with all those arguments so we can discuss?
 
8:54 PM
@hbdgaf genius, that wraps up a lot of problems - send me a pull request on git hub, also I found and forked a similar project (in that it forces webcam into a window), I'm going try and work backwards removing stuff from that. Anyway Xlib forced it to Saucy and up (maybe a version down with ppas, but not precise) so on this computer testing on vm, they don't call it bleeding edge for nothing.
 
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