Ask Ubuntu General Room

Stefano Palazzo

4:00 PM

@MarcoCeppi I need your help,

Kaustubh P

@StefanoPalazzo true. My answer was intended to be wordplay on the words: 'these days` :P

Stefano Palazzo

My instinct says close as argumentative

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo Yeah?

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi do you agree with "close as subjective && argumentative"?

I wouldn't think twice were it not for the super ninja vote :(

Marco Ceppi

When I have a split feeling on something I just leave a comment saying "This seems subjective and argumentative"

wait for the > 3k's to put one or two votes before slamming down the ninja vote

htorque

4:02 PM

i don't have super ninja vote powers -> close (1)

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi thank you, will do :)

(still learning you see)

Kaustubh P

@StefanoPalazzo nope, not argumentative. There can be an answer, I feel.

Let it be open a bit.

Stefano Palazzo

@KaustubhP an answer that applies to every reader?

Kaustubh P

Theres no harm to let people blow off some steam (in a good way).

I think so. There wont be a context where fireall isnt necessary, rght?

Stefano Palazzo

@KaustubhP That's the question

Kaustubh P

4:07 PM

@StefanoPalazzo stumped, and clean bowled

Stefano Palazzo

I'm sorry, I don't know what that means :D

I know what each of the words mean, individually :)

Kaustubh P

hehe, it means, I am out of words, or something like, you got me.

Bowled

Bowled is a method of dismissing a batsman in the sport of cricket. This method of dismissal is covered by Law 30 of the Laws of cricket. A batsman is out bowled if his wicket is put down by a ball delivered by the bowler. It is irrelevant as to whether the ball has touched the bat, glove, or any part of the batsman before going on to put down the wicket, though it may not touch another player or an umpire before doing so. Such rules mean that bowlings are the most obvious of dismissals: almost never requiring an appeal to the umpire; a bowled batsman will usually acknowledge the dismissa...

Allan

Hmmmm googly

and that was well before you could do any googling ;D

Stefano Palazzo

:)

Kaustubh P

@Allan yeah, that is better!

:D

Allan

4:12 PM

Never managed to get a six but got a few fours before the rain started

Kaustubh P

hehe!

you hooked to the WC, @Allan ?

Allan

Not really but we lived next to one of Essex County's grounds so it was difficult to miss

Kaustubh P

Awesome!

Allan

@KaustubhP I do believe we might be confusing all the Americans

Stefano Palazzo

you're cetainly confusing one of the germans :-)

Marco Ceppi

4:19 PM

Wow, the status updated for Chromify-OSD: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/…

Kaustubh P

@Allan +1 :D

Allan

@StefanoPalazzo Last week I managed to get stopped by the "zoll" & the "polizei" one after the other :0

Stefano Palazzo

@Allan they just wanted to take a look at your "crazy" car with the steering wheel on the wrong side :P

2

Kaustubh P

@StefanoPalazzo lol!

@StefanoPalazzo another FW question:

12

Q: Why is the firewall disabled by default?

Why is ufw firewall included in Ubuntu, when it is not enabled and pre-configured by default? Most users don't even know it is there, because no GUI frontend is provided.

Stefano Palazzo

I wish I were British, then I could make some great jokes about the war (;

@KaustubhP without having read all of the answers, I feel if a question has been there for a few weeks, and there aren't any close votes, it has been decided upon by the community that the question is alright, so to speak

In other words, the less I do the better (:

Kaustubh P

4:27 PM

no, i didnt mean to say its wrong, just appreciare the clarity of the question, and answers :P

Stefano Palazzo

I see

yeah, tx's answer is awesome

Marco Ceppi

The main difference between that question and the newer one. That one asks a question of "Why is firewall disabled by default" something that can be objectively answered. The other is a question which borders more towards "Do we really need a firewall?" which will differ depending on a person

I say "YOU NEED FIREWALLZ" but I know that other feel differently

Stefano Palazzo

my opinion on the question of "do you need a firewall, ever?": I don't know, and neither do you :P

Marco Ceppi

Hum s/\"YOU/\"I/

Kaustubh P

@StefanoPalazzo the dude asked for answers, opinions go on quora!

Stefano Palazzo

4:31 PM

What I meant to say was, it's a bit like asking "does the higgs boson exist" on physics.se

Octavian Damiean

evening

Marco Ceppi

Salutations

Kaustubh P

@StefanoPalazzo I hope not adding smileys doesnt convey a sense of hostility.

dont mind if usage conveys sarcasm :P

Stefano Palazzo

@KaustubhP in this instance, I got the sarcasm : )

Kaustubh P

hehe!

anyway, a great statement that I tweeted:

The attention span of a computer is only as long as its power cord. -torbengb

Tweeted by kastbh on February 17, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Allan

4:34 PM

@OctavianDamiean Good evening

Octavian Damiean

@MarcoCeppi mate I love that extension :D

Stefano Palazzo

Good morning all scotch lovers. Happy Ballantine's Day :)

Tweeted by kastbh on February 14, 2011 at 4:26 AM

+1 :)

Marco Ceppi

@OctavianDamiean Glad it's working for you!

Kaustubh P

@StefanoPalazzo :D

btw, did you comment on the post in my blog?

Octavian Damiean

now the only thing missing is getting asynchronous notifications on answers, comments and the like on stackexchange with a desktop notification option

Marco Ceppi

4:37 PM

@OctavianDamiean You might want StackApplet

25

Q: Tools for Ask Ubuntu

As some of you know, I have created some tools for Stack Exchange sites (like Ask Ubuntu) on Stack Apps. What tools have been developed for Ask Ubuntu, or are especially useful to Ask Ubuntu users?

discussion tools

Allan

@StefanoPalazzo I originally come from the Spey valley in Scotland where "Proper Whiskey" comes from ;)

Octavian Damiean

@MarcoCeppi dude I love you lol

thanks

Kaustubh P

@Allan really? wow, you must have grown on that stuff :P

Stefano Palazzo

@Allan nice!

Allan

@KaustubhP Well the hairs on my chest if my granddad is to be believed

Kaustubh P

4:41 PM

wow, interesting (urban) legends!

Allan

Mind you it's obviously done no favours for the hair on my head

Stefano Palazzo

"Recently there has been some controversy over attempts to Anglicise the name into Spey Valley."

careful not to upset the locals ;-)

Kaustubh P

@Allan haha! just wax your head (or whatever they call it), get aviators, black pants, bling, and you are hip!

Octavian Damiean

reinstalls current Natty build

Allan

@StefanoPalazzo The locals have more money than sense and that's coming from a local

Whiskey isn't cheap

Stefano Palazzo

4:44 PM

the distillers you mean?

I say they deserve every penny :)

Marco Ceppi

More of a Bourbon man myself.

Kaustubh P

Beer or Rum+Vodka for me!

Stefano Palazzo

I planned to finish the first half of K&R tonight, so it's coffee for me ;)

Sid

I'm a "teetotaller".

@KaustubhP Did you watch the opening ceremony, mate? It was beautiful!

Stefano Palazzo

googles homepage has changed again

Allan

4:47 PM

I can see this conversation ending in a pub down the road obviously separate ones

Sid

Don't hate me: I don't drink. :)

Kaustubh P

@Sid hi! couldnt, work :(

Sid

Marco Ceppi

@Sid I used to not drink for the longest time

Stefano Palazzo

Sid

4:49 PM

Morne Morkel and Dale Steyn in Bangalore/Bengaluru.

Kaustubh P

@Sid awesome! love it when they mingle!

Sid

@MarcoCeppi: Cool!:)

Kaustubh P

theres something about riding a rick in india, its a one way raod to common man's heart!

@StefanoPalazzo not here, yet!

Sid

@KaustubhP And pocket!

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo Popped up last night for me. Not a fan.

Yi Jiang

4:50 PM

@MarcoCeppi I like the blue.

Kaustubh P

@MarcoCeppi an I dont see my name, instead see my username. opens up the hood

Yi Jiang

Still hasn't pushed out to reader for me, I can't care less about the few more pixels that thing will use

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi me neither, I'd remove most of the stuff, leaving only the search button, textview and links to "images" and "other"

Kaustubh P

@Sid there was a rickshaw puller who thanked his lucky stars, because ranatunga was no longer the captain :P

Marco Ceppi

I think it's still too much. One thing that attracted me to Google originally was it's minimal interface

Sid

4:52 PM

@StefanoPalazzo www.google.co.in hasn't changed!

Stefano Palazzo

they usually roll these things out very slowly, to see how people react @Sid

Sid

@KaustubhP Good one!

Kaustubh P

@MarcoCeppi that is still minimalist for my taste, compared to the other offerings!

Stefano Palazzo

they sometimes even change search results drastically, for a small number of people, then gather data

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo I'm freaking out right now, turning over cars in the streets and lighting fire to everything

Kaustubh P

4:53 PM

@Sid hope we win the WC. good for tendulkar if he goes off with a bang!

Stefano Palazzo

ha :D

Allan

I'm using www.duckduckgo.com don't have to wait for the adverts

Sid

@KaustubhP Yes!

Yi Jiang

@MarcoCeppi It's just like when they changed their favicon! People were rioting in the street and camping outside their Mountain View HQ for days! No, wait, that's Egypt...

Kaustubh P

@Allan yeah, I have heard a lot about it.

Stefano Palazzo

4:54 PM

can I make chrome open my homepage, instead of the most visited thing, when I open a new tab?

Allan

@KaustubhP cant remember where I heard it from originally might have been omg

Sid

Yes.

Kaustubh P

@Allan too off the mark :(

Sid

@StefanoPalazzo about:blank ?

Octavian Damiean

is back on Natty

Allan

4:56 PM

@StefanoPalazzo isn't there a plugin for that

Sid

Illustrated Privacy Policy of DuckDuckGo:

donttrack.us

Stefano Palazzo

No idea, I'll have a look

Kaustubh P

@Sid I know the reason for its popularity, it doesnt track you, but Id rather be tracked and not get lost, so as to say.

Octavian Damiean

Me thinks that Jockey shouldn't display Nvidia drivers as long as they are not compatible

Allan

@StefanoPalazzo new tab redirect

Stefano Palazzo

5:00 PM

Oh you were about a second quicker than me :)

thanks @Allan, works great

Allan

I had it installed to use omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/… as a new tab page

Kaustubh P

I like duckgo's neutrality. they have even advised some extension for browsers.

but the privacy and tracking explanation is awesome!

Stefano Palazzo

I've just switched everything to duckduckgo, as an experiment (i was never a fan, ask me in a week)

Allan

@StefanoPalazzo the only thing I miss Stefano is the previews but thats no biggie

Stefano Palazzo

sounds good, I rarely use those

Octavian Damiean

5:11 PM

reboots into Maverick

is back

Jorge Castro

6:01 PM

@MarcoCeppi around?

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro Always

Jorge Castro

im pls

Marco Ceppi

For those in the US:

broadbandmap.gov/provider/wireless/at&t-inc.

broadbandmap.gov/provider/wireless/verizon-communications-inc.

TheX

6:24 PM

hey gang

Stefano Palazzo

@RolandTaylor ping?

htorque

git-bisect is a good way to waste half a day :D

TheX

firefox 4 go gold today?

Stefano Palazzo

lol

I typed "firefox 4 release date" into duckduckgo, says "no results"

it's true, but not helpful (:

TheX

lol

Stefano Palazzo

6:29 PM

what do you mean by "go gold"?

TheX

as in officially released to the general public

Stefano Palazzo

looks like they're at beta 11

TheX

 yeah thatis what I thought

someone told me that it did though... I wa slike nooooo can't be

Stefano Palazzo

beta 12 will be the last beta before the final release

they were scheduled for "February", like "six to eight weeks" :)

TheX

brb

Stefano Palazzo

6:32 PM

(which is programmer-talk for leave me alone)

TheX

lol

by the way anyone have veto powers so you I can stop you from closing all my questions? :-P

Stefano Palazzo

@TheX No idea how serious you are, but in general, if you have any issue with 3+ users' or moderators' actions, raise a concrete issue and make your case, questions can be re-opened

TheX

I am not serious at all :P

Marco Ceppi

Also there is the "Reopen" vote

TheX

I am just giving you a hard time because I saw that you voted to close one of my questions, I perfectly understand why though

Stefano Palazzo

6:38 PM

which one?

TheX

the one about the firewall

9

Q: Is a Firewall really necessary these days?

should I install something like gufw?

firewall

Marco Ceppi

He didn't vote to close that - if he did, it would have been closed by now. Ninja voting powers decree this to be true.

Stefano Palazzo

I was just rocking the boat with my comment to see what the community thinks. I'm not 100% sure about it

TheX

@MarcoCeppi @StefanoPalazzo I see...

Stefano Palazzo

the community is usually right :)

TheX

6:41 PM

@StefanoPalazzo, yes, never agrue with the community.

Marco Ceppi

The community is always right - so long as I agree with them :) RESPECT SUPREME OVERLORDS

TheX

what happens if you disagree with them?

torbengb

Whoa with an image like that I'm hesitant to join the chat :-)

Marco Ceppi

1 min ago, by Marco Ceppi

TheX

oh i get it lol

torbengb

6:43 PM

I was going to ask for help, but "percussive maintenance" is not what I had in mind

Stefano Palazzo

hehe

Marco Ceppi

But seriously, just kidding.

TheX

@torbengb don't worry @MarcoCeppi i a softey as long as you don't piss him off...

Allan

Mmmmm Its Hammer time

torbengb

:)

Allan

6:44 PM

cant touch this

torbengb

I'm not afraid, I'm a viking and you don't know where I'm hiding!

Stefano Palazzo

very clever, percussive maintenance (:

TheX

►

torbengb

anyway, I have an issue with shutdown not working, and I'd like some more ideas what could be wrong.

4

Q: New computer hangs on shutdown/reboot, how to troubleshoot?

Summary: My machine hangs on shutdown/restart: all windows and the menu bar disappear but the desktop wallpaper remains, and it stays like that without disk activity forever (hours). It doesn't even show the shutdown screen (the one with the animated dots) where I could hit ESC and watch the shut...

installation shutdown freeze reboot

Marco Ceppi

torbengb

6:45 PM

what baffles me most is that the system freezes immediately...

Allan

@torbengb Do you know how to train a dragon torben ;)

torbengb

I don't need a dragon, I have an axe

Stefano Palazzo

@torbengb, if you can, try to remove as much as possible from the question, making it as concise as you possibly can. There seems to be a non-linear correlation between question-length and answers :)

TheX

@torbengb is is easier to train them... "keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer"

torbengb

yeah it has gotten kong, but I was trying to explain all the things ive already tried

kong = long

I will edit and shorten ruthlessly.

Stefano Palazzo

6:47 PM

you don't need to remove detail, just make it "look short" if at all possible

TheX

@torbengb besides you will get more rep if you break it into multiple questions

torbengb

@TheX gasp! that would be cheating! ;-) It's all one single problem...

TheX

@torbengb cheating??? how dare you suggest I encourage such a thing??

Octavian Damiean

@torbengb nope it isn't ;)

Roland Taylor

@JorgeCastro hi ^^ (I fixed my link and I'm not upset anymore thanks lol)

torbengb

6:48 PM

who said anything about cheating?

gaming, perhaps

Octavian Damiean

your resolution is not recognized and set automatically because your monitors EDID can't be read

htorque

@TheX i voted to close it

Roland Taylor

anyone know an addon for firefox that inserts apt:// links?

Octavian Damiean

that happens on some VGA plugged monitors

Marco Ceppi

@RolandTaylor Explain?

htorque

6:49 PM

@TheX i just don't think it's answerable

Stefano Palazzo

@RolandTaylor there's a javascript bookmark you can add, iirc - hang on

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi on chromium I can use a bookmarklet/addon to insert apt:// links for askubuntu (I forgot which one)

@StefanoPalazzo thanks ^^

torbengb

@OctavianDamiean yep, that's what I learned, and that question has been accepted/solved.

TheX

@htorque that is fine I was just joking around

Marco Ceppi

@RolandTaylor Oh, checkout this meta post: I think it's in there

Stefano Palazzo

6:50 PM

javascript:(function (pkg) {document.getElementById('wmd-input').innerHTML += "[" +pkg +"](packages.ubuntu.com/"; +pkg +") [![Install " +pkg +'](bit.ly/software-small)](http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/'; +pkg +')';})(prompt("Enter the package name to link to it."))

Marco Ceppi

25

Q: Tools for Ask Ubuntu

As some of you know, I have created some tools for Stack Exchange sites (like Ask Ubuntu) on Stack Apps. What tools have been developed for Ask Ubuntu, or are especially useful to Ask Ubuntu users?

lol

LOL

@RolandTaylor welcome back.

Stefano Palazzo

22

Q: How to post links that install software via apt?

There are some posts with nice Software Center icons and links to software installation via apt. How to do that?

support apturl

Roland Taylor

6:50 PM

@TheX gracias :D

Octavian Damiean

@torbengb oh I see well then

Roland Taylor

I will make a firefox button for that :P

Allan

@torbengb saw something about changing the frame buffer size in bios techonnews.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/… I know its about xbmc just thought I would mention

TheX

hmm the last 2 weeks I sat with 1497 rep points, in the last 8 hours I have gotten 100ish...

Roland Taylor

Seems my milkshake brings all the voters to the yard?

TheX

6:55 PM

@RolandTaylor perhaps...

Roland Taylor

kk I'm off to do some writing/gaming/music ^^

Jorge Castro

I need to game more

Octavian Damiean

is sad because of Nvidia not releasing updated drivers

torbengb

@StefanoPalazzo significantly shortened now:

4

Q: New computer hangs on shutdown/reboot, how to troubleshoot?

My system is working perfectly but it freezes during shutdown/reboot/suspend/hibernate: All windows and the menu bar disappear but the desktop wallpaper remains. It doesn't even show the shutdown screen (the one with the animated dots) where I could hit ESC and watch the shutdown console text. Th...

installation shutdown freeze reboot

Stefano Palazzo

@torbengb nicely done!

torbengb

7:01 PM

thx

Octavian Damiean

oh boy am I an idiot ... I totally forgot that I can test unity on my netbook ... I have an unused one somewhere lol

torbengb

@OctavianDamiean too many computers? I only have verrrry old ones.

Octavian Damiean

@torbengb well I have my desktop which is a quite powerful one, an Asus EeePC 900, a Lenovo T60 and a Lenovo T61p

hmm not that I'm thinking about it my T60 has an Intel graphics chip so I could test it on that one too

Jorge Castro

intel graphics in natty are the way to go right now

Octavian Damiean

perfect

well good not perfect but good

is still sad about Nvidia :D

torbengb

7:16 PM

what's up with nvidia? Is the support going away?

Jorge Castro

no it's just X is upgraded to 1.10 and they haven't updated their drivers yet

(same with ATI too)

so it's hard to test the development release right now. :-/

torbengb

ah OK

George Edison

Wait... didn't Nvidia say that they weren't going to support Wayland?

I don't like the way this is looking...

[pats my poor soon-to-be-useless Nvidia chip...]

ajmitch

closed driver support quite often lags behind X changing ABI yet again

George Edison

Sigh.... thanks alot Nvidia!

ajmitch

7:27 PM

Use nouveau? :P

Jorge Castro

your nvidia card isn't useless, it just doesn't work in 11.04 right now

2

George Edison

@Jorge: LOL

ajmitch

Whereas my ATI chipset is mostly useless in any release, or so it feels

George Edison

I don't know if that was supposed to be funny...

...but I got a chuckle out of it.

ajmitch

I don't know why you find it funny

It's unfortunately all too common for there to be a mismatch in what's supported throughout the whole messy stack

George Edison

7:30 PM

Well, if it doesn't work in 11.04 it is useless as far as I'm concerned.

Jorge Castro

it will, just right now

er, just not right now

George Edison

Okay... but I hope it's soon.

11.04 is soon.

ajmitch

'soon' being a number of weeks, but it does impact being able to test large parts of the changes

In the meantime, I believe nouveau is quite capable of running unity, at least on a few cards

htorque

it's running fine here on a 6600 gt, go 7600 gt, and nvs 3100m

George Edison

Is my GeForce 8400M GS supported? :P

Marco Ceppi

7:35 PM

I found a new question for AU!

George Edison

Oh good!

Marco Ceppi

Err, maybe it'll be a duplicate...

ajmitch

8400? I think that's fairly well supported

Jorge Castro

I cleverly just didn't upgrade Xorg

I need my twinview

htorque

@GeorgeEdison it's from ~2007, it definitely should

ajmitch

7:36 PM

@JorgeCastro yeah, I've been the master of selective upgrading over the years :)

htorque

wasn't that a common mobile gpu too?

George Edison

Me too... sort of.

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro then again, my first ubuntu desktop which ran for a few years was originally sid...

htorque

nothing is more fun than dist-upgrade -y

twice or thrice a day :P

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch yeah me too

ajmitch

7:37 PM

I like being able to have a working system

George Edison

I still have 10.04 in my VM.

Haven't gotten around to upgrading that yet...

Marco Ceppi

0

Q: How can I find out which cards are supported by the nouveau driver?

I'm looking at different Nvidia cards and would like to know which are supported by the nouveau driver - is there a list of these available?

nouveau

ajmitch

So I got bored the other day, bought another album through the music store. I was pleasantly surprised at how fast things went, remembering what it was like in the early days of it :)

@GeorgeEdison I'm still running lucid on my work desktop & my laptop here

George Edison

Oh.

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch yeah it's pretty near instant now

@ajmitch I just bought a track yesterday

ajmitch

7:40 PM

metal? :)

Jorge Castro

yeah, megadeth

I didn't have their grammy nominated track

@MarcoCeppi hah, from looking at the tag it's amazing no one has asked that yet

ajmitch

I didn't have A Matter of Life and Death by Iron Maiden, so it needed to be bought

@MarcoCeppi of course that answer depends on what you mean by "supported"

since there are varying levels of functionality

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch I like that one better than their new one

@ajmitch you've helped me decide the next hour of music, heh

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro their new one starts getting good in about the 5th track or so :)

Marco Ceppi

@ajmitch Updated my question

ajmitch

7:46 PM

@MarcoCeppi yeah, someone posted while I was typing out an answer :)

so I'll skip that one

I've been surprised at the answers that I've posted recently that have got 10 votes or more

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch I was the same way

my first 100 rep was like, impossible to get

then a brutal path to 1k

Marco Ceppi

With high quality, comes high rep

Jorge Castro

then after that it started to pile on

ajmitch

who'd have thought people would care about changing default shell, or the ubuntu revision so much?

Jorge Castro

I think at some point you just start to subconciously write better answers, I don't feel like my answers were any better or worse than before

ajmitch

7:50 PM

Possibly

Jorge Castro

yeah, some of my biggest rep earners were seemingly simple things that people want to know but never asked

ajmitch

At this rate, I may even hit 2k rep this year :)

Jorge Castro

for example:

39

A: What is the difference between upstream and downstream when referring to who to go to as a developer?

Think of it as a great river, with the people who write the software as the source of the river. They would be the upstream, futher downstream would be your distribution, and at the end of the river would be the user. Ubuntu is in the middle of the river. Upstream would be the software that Ubun...

Marco Ceppi

This is my highest rep-bringer

32

A: Whats the meaning of 10.04 and 9.10?

Ubuntu follows a regular release cycle. The version numbers are in the format YY.MM (10.04: April, 2010). Every two years they release an "LTS" version which is Long Term Support meaning it will be officially supported for two more years. Last LTS was 8.04 Now it's 10.04 the second release of th...

ajmitch

heh

Jorge Castro

7:51 PM

this one answer I have by far has the most votes out of all the ones I've done

ajmitch

such simple things

Jorge Castro

even though it's really simple

just like "chrome vs. chromium"

Marco Ceppi

This was also one of the first questions I ever answered

ajmitch

I'm not complaining

Marco Ceppi

25

A: When installing I'm given the option of encrypting my home folder -- what does this do?

Simply Encrypting your home folder doesn't actually make your computer more secure - it simply makes all the files and folders in your home folder more secure from unauthorized viewing. Your computer is still "vulnerable" in a security standpoint - but it becomes very difficult for your conten...

Jorge Castro

7:52 PM

".10 are usually considered a "look to the next major release" where they try out several new features to receive feedback from community. That feedback is compiled into the next YY.04 release."

actually, you can edit that, that's not true

we don't look at .04 vs. .10 to decide when to land things

ajmitch

No, it tends to be more long term than that, building up to an LTS

Jorge Castro

however you can say that the non-LTS releases kind of culminate into an LTS release

like a major cycle in addition to the little baby cycles

ajmitch

They've tended to be every 2 years, though that's not set in stone

Jorge Castro

I think I have a better description somewhere

ajmitch