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wisemonkey

12:00 AM

can't get any better/matching icon theme

@jrg: so for documentation I suppose all I need to provide is sources and color changes for conky right?

jrg

@wisemonkey something like that.

afk, cya guys

wisemonkey

k will be done by end of the day :)

TheX

When does the American Civil War II start?

Bruno Pereira

done: askubuntu.com/questions/67909/how-to-install-oracle-java-jdk-6/…

Jorge Castro

12:23 AM

grr

and should avoid PPAs and blogs we can't update.

you guys are killing me with these PPAs and scripts from random websites!

Bruno Pereira

what if there is no other gui tool available?

Jorge Castro

ok so let's pretend this question is the canonical answer on the entire internet

and it's "the way" to do this.

you've given that guy root access to all those computers.

(which is fine)

Bruno Pereira

12:38 AM

I agree with you, a ppa can break and go away + 4 command lines are easy to use compared with adding a ppa, installing a tool, running it and with luck it wont do any harm and will work nicely. But I did ask and 100% of the voters said "both". :P

Jorge Castro

it just needs to be separated so people understand there are risks

AND FOR ME TO DOWNVOTE.

:p

Bruno Pereira

sexy: got "Revival" :D

@JorgeCastro To tell you the truth its only in Ubuntu that you see so many ppl whining about "no gui = hard", maybe its Ubuntu's own fault and those those sh*t blogs out there. Everyone has their own way and tool come out for something that 3 commands do the same job.

I laughed when my introduction to arch linux was "there is a global configuration tool for all your needs: nano". I don't anymore. I know its not everything, you should not do everything by hand, but ffs, 3 or 4 commands vs install a tool? I'll use the commands faster then one can remember the PPA's name.

Jorge Castro

sure

but the right way to do it is to encourage people who make these tools to get them in the archive and supported instead of making users install PPAs

that tool could be submitted to the software center

Bruno Pereira

/me nods

Jorge Castro

anyway, it's not our fault it's not easy to install, Oracle chose to make it that way

there's not much we can do about it

George Edison

12:52 AM

@MarcoCeppi: Are you around?

I'm sorry for the delay in catching up with you... I came down with a terrible case of the flu.

Bruno Pereira

well, its not oracle's fault also if users want to be that specific in what to install, most of these posts starts with: "I heard its faster", has: "dont know how to install it" in the middle and ends with: "oh, I managed to install it and its as fast, anyone knows why?"

Everyone whats it as easy as possible, Ubuntu wants it as easy and secure as possible. sometimes its hard to merge the 2 ;)

Jorge Castro

right

that's all good

until random PPA guy decides to crush thousands of machines.

Bruno Pereira

lol

yeah, thats the part the user fails to understand

George Edison

1:33 AM

@jrg: Speaking of turbo boost... we used to have a button on the front of an old 486 that actually had a button labelled "turbo boost".

Icedrake

3 days till Christmas break! :D

and yet, have either 3 or 4 exams before it. So close, yet so far.

George Edison

is downloading Git for Windows...

Amith KK

2:00 AM

Hey all!

George Edison

Hello.

Amith KK

I'm gonna go to school... need to get some info

@wisemonkey Is that Mint?

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Questions Feed

2:23 AM

Bounty offered: Open spelling correction dialog by keyboard shortcut instead of right click http://askubuntu.com/questions/87265/open-spelling-correction-dialog-by-keyboard-shortcut-instead-of-right-click #gnome

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on December 20, 2011 at 2:22 AM

jrg

@GeorgeEdison O_O Nice!

Amith KK

@GeorgeEdison We have one of em' in our computer lab

Although its gutted, It has a Hole with the words"TURBO" on the front

BBL

George Edison

I never figured out what it did.

Icedrake

2:58 AM

Can... barely... keep... eyes... open.

Going all out on this essay for Lit class.

Well, good night guys.

Questions Feed

5:45 AM

Bounty offered: How to prompt for input while doing preseed/late_command? http://askubuntu.com/questions/43286/how-to-prompt-for-input-while-doing-preseed-late-command #installation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on December 20, 2011 at 5:22 AM

WarriorIng64

8:05 AM

@MarcoCeppi I just have. I have already posted my own view on the topic as a response, and I'm sure plenty here would back it.

Stefano Palazzo

@WarriorIng64 I think the actual answer is decent enough

it doesn't provide any link to actual adult content, or show any images. it merely mentions the existence of it. that should be okay, no?

WarriorIng64

No, for the reasons I have listed

My apologies, but this is obviously a controversial topic I feel strongly on...just making sure my voice is heard

Stefano Palazzo

yeah, it should be discussed obviously - no need to apologise for that

WarriorIng64

Where I come from, the subject itself is kind of implied to be taboo, for one thing

Stefano Palazzo

I have two points to make on it, one, I can't really relate to the offensiveness of the content. given it's this abstract

two, we should think about how much 'offence' is okay

WarriorIng64

8:16 AM

For me, it's kind of like running face-first into some adult ad while surfing the Web

...

Stefano Palazzo

right. but it isn't actually adult content

WarriorIng64

I just had a flashback to what HedgeMage said about list questions being community ads when I said that

Depends on your definition of "adult content". There are those of us who still think even mentioning it is just not right, regardless of the detail one goes into on it

Stefano Palazzo

that's more interesting. I don't really think being offended is a good argument, but I'll reconsider if I'm convinced it casts a bad light on our community

there's another point: if we decide that any mention of adult content should be deleted, would that not lead to other kinds of posts having to be deleted as well?

Octavian Damiean

It is really just a technical interface to adult content. There was not adult content displayed or advertised.

Stefano Palazzo

for instance, what if someone asks about software to read the quran, and that deeply offends someone or other

for this reason, I think "it offends people" isn't a valid argument

Octavian Damiean

8:20 AM

Which means that if we delete such a question we should delete every browser related question just because someone can potentially browser for adult content with his browser.

WarriorIng64

That's not what I'm trying to get across here...

Stefano Palazzo

that's where the argument goes though

if we decide to delete content for moral or ethical reasons, we have to define what that means exactly

WarriorIng64

@StefanoPalazzo i don't think we can draw a direct analogy between someone being offended by someone else asking questions about software intended for a religious purpose and those asking how to access adult content...I think the latter is something more people would be squeamish about

Questions Feed

Bounty offered: What is the current state of apple device (iPhone, iPod, etc.) support? http://askubuntu.com/questions/83484/what-is-the-current-state-of-apple-device-iphone-ipod-etc-support #sync

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on December 20, 2011 at 8:22 AM

WarriorIng64

Adult content is offensive in that some of us regard it as, frankly, vulgar and disgusting, which I think is different from being offended that others hold different religious views

Octavian Damiean

8:23 AM

@WarriorIng64 I know a couple of Americans that could get offended.

WarriorIng64

And hey, I just happen to be one!

Octavian Damiean

@WarriorIng64 The flip side is that others don't.

Stefano Palazzo

I would be immensely offended by, say, a unity lens "bringing you all the latest news about racism" - I'd find it just as disgusting, if not more

WarriorIng64

@OctavianDamiean So does that mean it's wrong for us to be offended by it? I think that is a rather inconsiderate view to hold when it alienates us

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo To be fair that would be in violation with the CoC.

Stefano Palazzo

8:25 AM

but I'm still uncomfortable with deleting a post because someone is morally opposed to it

yes it would, good point

WarriorIng64

And I think I'm actually one of the less conservative ones over here...there will be issues

Octavian Damiean

@WarriorIng64 No, I didn't say that. What I mean is that there are people that just don't feel like you about it.

Stefano Palazzo

further, me deleting such a post would be in violation of one of my rules - i.e. "don't make the rules"

unless there is an overwhelming consensus by the community

WarriorIng64

@OctavianDamiean I understand that, but all the same there is still a significant group of us who feel as I do. Look at the earlier chat with Amith KK and Roland Taylor, for example

@StefanoPalazzo Which is why making a Meta question is a good idea...to get the community involved in making a decision on this

Stefano Palazzo

yep

Octavian Damiean

8:28 AM

nods

WarriorIng64

I think I'll let that stand where it is for now...I'll be fine with whichever way the community decides on it, though I will disclose that I do hold a position on it

Stefano Palazzo

it doesn't violate the CoC, does it?

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo Nope.

WarriorIng64

I just want those who don't share my view to understand there are those of us who would be quite sensitive to it and this should be treated with care

Stefano Palazzo

mh.. I'm just thinking, maybe an overwhelming consensus isn't enough, even.

> Any decision we take will affect users and colleagues, and we should take those consequences into account when making decisions.

so, let's say tomorrow there's a great consensus on meta that we should ban any mention of politics or religion

I wouldn't agree to that, even if 20 people voted on the meta post (and reference the CoC to back that up)

can we get to moral standards by consensus (from a small vocal minority, remember, we have many hundreds of thousands of visitors, only tens of people posting on meta)?

Octavian Damiean

8:34 AM

nods

WarriorIng64

I can understand allowing something if a small minority objects to it; I don't think religion or politics mentioned casually would set most people off

But I think adult content would

I don't know if it's the case in other countries, but like where I live we see religion and politics mentioned on the news ever so often and most people have no issue with that

Stefano Palazzo

I remember the tech press talking about "porn mode" in browsers when it was introduced

WarriorIng64

But you hardly ever see mentions of things that are more related to sex, again because people wouldn't want their children exposed to it, want themselves exposed to it, or want others to know they are exposed to it

Stefano Palazzo

nobody accused the browser vendors of anything in that case

okay that isn't the best analogy. in this case, the Scope is actually akin to porn mode in browsers, not our mention of it.

WarriorIng64

But in the case of "porn mode" for browsers, that's an individual's choice as to what content they want to see (likely in private, which is what it's made for)

That's different to posting information on it on a widely visible website

Stefano Palazzo

8:39 AM

isn't it the same here? it's our choice whether to install the lens or not - making it even harder to get at the adult content

WarriorIng64

On the contrary, it makes it easier

Stefano Palazzo

what would that policy actually look like?

WarriorIng64

I think one of Ask Ubuntu's purposes is to make information easier to get at for users, sometimes too easy

Stefano Palazzo

just "remove all mentions of pornographic or adult content"?

WarriorIng64

Well, we could look at something like what YouTube does and impose age restrictions

Stefano Palazzo

8:42 AM

I'll just take a minute to read up on the law

WarriorIng64

If enough people flag it as adult, it could be hidden by default unless someone of appropriate age explicitly tells the site they want to see it

I guess the issue isn't that we should outright ban the content, but make it "childproof", so to say

Stefano Palazzo

I'm pretty sure this answer doesn't in the least constitute "dissemination of pornography to a minor" - just to get the legal argument in

even the "over 18" warning in the answer itself is superfluous from a legal point of view

(not a lawyer, obviously)

WarriorIng64

@StefanoPalazzo Me neither (wish I was, then maybe I wouldn't be so paranoid over copyright and licensing, but I digress)

Stefano Palazzo

you understand, I have a big problem with deleting anything on moral grounds

I don't think I have any right to do that

I've signed the "code of conduct" and the "leadership code of conduct", both of which say nothing on the topic. Amending that with some (reasonably arbitrary) moral code doesn't seem right to me

WarriorIng64

Let me try asking a theoretical question: suppose someone posts an answer asking how to hack computers or program an actual virus, or posted an answer on how to do just that. Obviously that is not moral, but would that then be allowed if we're not taking that into account?

Stefano Palazzo

8:50 AM

accepting that, you could still make a case for an adult content filter that makes the user click a button saying he's over 18, like youtube does - of course.

even though it's unlikely that we'll get that (SE is always reluctant to implement new features, in general, unless the need for it is overwhelmingly obvious)

@WarriorIng64 I should point out that, unless it violates any actual laws that we subscribe to, I would not be against that either

WarriorIng64

I wonder if a checkbox could be implemented which allows a user to mark an answer or question as containing adult material and allow it to be filtered...this is also what Google Sites does (why do I keep bringing up Google?)

Building on that, anybody could mark their own content as such, but changing that label on others' content could only be done with fairly high rep

Stefano Palazzo

It's a solution, but in my mind a solution to a problem that doesn't exist

WarriorIng64

Anyways, I have a final exam in five hours I need to cram some more on...I'll let that question sit and see what comes out of it in a couple days' time.

Night (or morning, or whatever...it's 4am here, and I get confused when I'm on a nocturnal cycle)

I appreciate the discussion, by the way

Stefano Palazzo

sure, it's a discussion worth having. good look on that exam :)

Octavian Damiean

9:06 AM

The point is that it is one question out of hundreds of thousands of questions. It doesn't really make sense to implement such a complicated feature just for one question.

Stefano Palazzo

10:00 AM

@OctavianDamiean I'd also argue against an age limit on that specific question

Octavian Damiean

Indeed, it is not our responsibility to protect minors on the internet but their parents'.

Basically what I wrote in my answer to the meta question.

Stefano Palazzo

yep

gideon

hey there folkds

folks*

Stefano Palazzo

I'm writing my own answer now, and I didn't manage to make my point as concisely (:

Hi @gideon

gideon

just wanted to know, with regard to this answer (askubuntu.com/a/61422/38120) if its possible to install win8 on a new external usb hdd. (I have two regular HDD's on my system one with Win7 and the other with ubuntu 11.10)

or maybe that would be a highly stupid thing to do and I should just buy another harddrive?

hey @StefanoPalazzo

Stefano Palazzo

10:08 AM

@gideon I know you can install Ubuntu on USB hard drives, no idea about windows. But that's a question you can ask on superuser.com

gideon

aha!~

So I can plug in my external and install ubuntu on it!!!!

how would I boot into it though?

just plugin?

Stefano Palazzo

mh. I'm not 100% sure.

Either it'll just work (i.e. appear in the installer like any other hard drive) or you have to use something like the usb disk creator

gideon

hmm

Stefano Palazzo

if it does appear in the installer (which I vaguely remember) you would boot it like you'd boot from a CD or a usb key

that is, plug it in :)

gideon

i see.

Stefano Palazzo

10:10 AM

my computer always tries to boot from my external hard drive (because it's not been formatted, and there used to be ubuntu installed on it)

It's going to be very slow indeed. of course

gideon

ah.

Stefano Palazzo

I'd recommend asking a question like "how do I install windows 8 on a USB disk" on superuser. That should be the best way to try it out I guess.

gideon

will do.

thanks! so much @StefanoPalazzo

Stefano Palazzo

quite alright; I hope I remembered correctly ;)

gideon

From what I gather so far, installing ubuntu on a external seems easier and would suite my situation much better (since I don't use ubuntu now but plan to later when I know crazy things like bash, the terminal and apt.get a little better =P )

Octavian Damiean

10:20 AM

Mhmm, I'll have to create my LoCo website this week.

Stefano Palazzo

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A: Should questions/answers dealing with "adult" software be flagged as offensive?

Yes, they must be allowed We don't even have a choice in the matter, because we're unable to form any policy that would be fair and respectful to the vast majority of users if we start deleting any content on moral grounds. We don't make the moral rules. And if anybody is offended by any kin...

long answer again :\

Octavian Damiean

Very nice answer.

Amith KK

10:41 AM

Hello all!

@GeorgeEdison It is supposed to increase CPU speed

Amith KK

11:05 AM

Octavian Damiean

That looks like a solid To-Do list there.

Questions Feed

11:24 AM

Questions seeking how to bypass security, off-topic? http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2246/questions-seeking-how-to-bypass-security-off-topic

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on December 20, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Octavian Damiean

Awesome, isn't it?

Amith KK

yep

@OctavianDamiean Do you like this kinda music?

Octavian Damiean

Can't listen right now.

But I like Sonic. I've played it ages ago on a Sega. :D

Amith KK

@OctavianDamiean I still play it :D Would <3 to own a genesis

Octavian Damiean

I think you weren't even born by then. :)

Amith KK

11:36 AM

Yeah

Gens FTW

Octavian Damiean

I mean when I played it on the Sega.

Amith KK

@OctavianDamiean I played Sonic 2,3+Knux on Gens Sonic 2 betas have hidden palace

Oops AutoKeyboard

Octavian Damiean

Oh what? You own a Genesis?!

Amith KK

@OctavianDamiean no

How much does one cost these days anyway?

Octavian Damiean

Oh misread your message there.

I'm not sure if you can still buy it.

Amith KK

11:39 AM

Yay! See down

Greg

mornin'

Octavian Damiean

Oh you can!

amazon.com/Sega-Genesis-Core-System-2/dp/B000035XR9/…

Amith KK

@Greg Morin

Octavian Damiean

My god ... how time passed ... I can't believe it.

Amith KK

Sonic Generations.... looks legit :P

@OctavianDamiean Did you own a SEGA CD?

Octavian Damiean

11:42 AM

CD?

You mean a game cassette? :D

Stefano Palazzo

I had one :) (two actually, they were pretty flimsy)

Mega-CD

|discontinue = 1995 |CPU = MC68000 @ 12.5 MHz |media = CD-ROM, CD+G |storage=Internal RAM |onlineservice = |unitssold = 6 million |related = Sega 32X |topgame = }} The is an add-on device for the Mega Drive video game console, designed and produced by Sega and released in Japan, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. The device was also released in North America under the name Sega CD, for the Sega Genesis. The device adds a CD-ROM drive to the console, allowing the user to play CD-based games and providing additional hardware functionality. It can also play audio CD...

Amith KK

Greg

@AmithKK best game ever

Amith KK

Hidden Palace! Ah :D

Octavian Damiean

Sheesh!

Amith KK

11:48 AM

Thats Hidden palace from beta

</awesome-sonic>

htorque

12:42 PM

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Q: Should questions/answers dealing with "adult" software be flagged as offensive?

This question is being posted largely in response to this answer describing the "Adult Lens and Porn Scope" and how to install it. As Roland Taylor and I commented on the answer, we have concerns over whether this material should be posted at Ask Ubuntu. Besides the fact that someone under legal...

hehe

so ask ubuntu does no longer get a PG rating? :P

Amith KK

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rlemon

I am beginning to realize this 'how to' js guide is going to be larger than previously imagined

Bruno Pereira

1:00 PM

close ze big obvious dup

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Q: sun java being dropped 'TBD' but when?

In this article https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/Java6Transition I read that java from sun (now from oracle) is going to be dropped from the ubuntu repositories. Our company uses this to enable a java application. Since it's publicly available we're concerned about this. I tried t...

java

Amith KK

WTF!! What happened to libreoffice

rlemon

it was neglected as a child.... actions which have led to it's inevitable demise

Amith KK

Oh, libreoffice-gtk wasnt installed

rlemon

Greg

wonders when Ubuntu will get a usable office suite

Octavian Damiean

1:15 PM

Like Google Docs? :D

htorque

what's the problem with libreoffice? it looks outdated, yeah, but that doesn't make it unusable, no?

also, use latex for writing. :P

Octavian Damiean

lol

htorque

google docs - yeah, i like google knowing everything. >:D

Octavian Damiean

Of course you do. After all you want even better customized ads for you, don't you?

htorque

yeah, i want them to put maximum resources into creating ads i ignore. :>

rlemon

1:26 PM

google already knows everything.

there is no escape

Amith KK

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rlemon

@AmithKK wikileaks.org/the-spyfiles.html

Marco Ceppi

@htorque It's still PG, I couldn't find anything in that post which would change the rating otherwise.

Talking about software which performs and action, and actually posting the results of said action directly on the site are two completely different things. Just because you talk about "pornography" doesn't actually make your site "pornographic" It's lacking the "graphic" part.

Amith KK

@rlemon Can you help me a little

rlemon

what do you need

Amith KK

1:40 PM

Im doing my english project or RK narayan and two of his stories

I needed a good title page :)

rlemon

ok, never read them. but continue..

Amith KK

But I'm limited to Black&White for now

rlemon

cover doc?

Amith KK

yeah

with some of his sketches

I suck at B&W degsign

And this thing is due tommrrow

So, can you please help me :D

rlemon

ok, i'll try

Amith KK

1:43 PM

thanks alot in advance

I have till 9PM to use my comp

Marco Ceppi

nononononononononononononononononononononono

6

Amith KK

The giant wolf spider

Marco Ceppi

45 secs ago, by Marco Ceppi

nononononononononononononononononononononono

Amith KK

The only spider which carries its babies in the womb

@MarcoCeppi Sorry

Marco Ceppi

heh, it's okay

Octavian Damiean

1:48 PM

:D

Marco Ceppi

Just, KILL IT WITH ALL THE FIRE

htorque

@MarcoCeppi if i had kids and i'd know that there are more of such questions, i'd block AU. ;-)

yeah, that's something i agree with - KILL IT!

Octavian Damiean

helps Marco killing it by making even more fire

Oli

Yeah, if I lived anywhere near one of those, I'd start stocking up on Cognac, nail guns and aerosols.

3

htorque

probably makes a funny popping sound when you put your foot on it >:D

Amith KK

1:49 PM

@htorque Nah... It just kill its babies

And Probably will sting your foot with spider blood

Oli

@htorque Looking at the size of that, it'd probably take a chunk of foot with it on its way out - and then set its minions up your leg

rlemon

@htorque likely a small series of little popping sounds

Amith KK

@rlemon This is the silk case

Marco Ceppi

@htorque I wouldn't blame you, and as a parent you have every right to do so. When I'm a parent though, I probably won't block AU because it tells people how to install something :)

htorque

baby popping sound >:D

Marco Ceppi

1:50 PM

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With that, I'm going to wander away for awhile

And by wander I mean curl up in a corner

Amith KK

O.o Did I just scare marco?

Is the world ending?

htorque

@MarcoCeppi my kids wouldn't be able to install anything, so... >:D

Amith KK

@htorque No, NOT TRUE you Dont have Siblings or Kids do you?

Octavian Damiean

I had such a beast under my couch on the terrace. It tried to attack me.

Amith KK

> When I was living in Miami I had an encounter with one of these wolf spiders, one that was burned into my retina. I remember the hairy bastard walking down the rug of my bedroom, my girlfriend screaming, me using a shoe to kill it and then what I remember being two hundred thousand little spiders running everywhere. Then I screamed more than my girlfriend because I hate spiders like that.

@htorque Exerpt from the article

Octavian Damiean

1:54 PM

It had back luck on that day because I was cleaning my airsoft guns. :D

Amith KK

BBL

Octavian Damiean

So be warned. If you are a spider and plan to attack someone make sure that this person is not cleaning his airsoft guns at that moment.

htorque

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problem solved.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How do I troubleshoot this boot issue?

I have a Lenovo x120e that is not booting properly. When I turn it on, it just opens to a blank screen. The machine is running Ubuntu 10.04. Main Details: I shut the lid of the computer while it was running, and then opened it later and noticed that I couldn't get out of suspend / hibernate mod...

ubuntu boot

rlemon

2:16 PM

@AmithKK lol Yo, whats your name

Roland Taylor

@rlemon Amith

rlemon

got a last name? he asked me to make a cover page for him

jrg

@RolandTaylor don't we have a Google+ hangout here in like, 10 minutes?

Roland Taylor

Kumran I think

@jrg I didn't remember lol :D

jrg

@RolandTaylor checks trello

rlemon

2:17 PM

Google+ hangout

really?

that like an IRC party?

Roland Taylor

yesh

jrg

@RolandTaylor starts in 45 minutes.

Roland Taylor

cool

Octavian Damiean

But with voice AFAIK.

Roland Taylor

that gives me time to look like a human

jrg

2:18 PM

I think i'll just start it now, and then play around with it just so I know it'll work come prime time.

@OctavianDamiean And Video!

Octavian Damiean

Oh god!

jrg

Dear Google, please give the 2buntu page all those goodies you were bragging about yesterday... we need multi admins. :P

Roland Taylor

yeah!

jrg

@RolandTaylor hangouts with extras?

@RolandTaylor join us!

rlemon

jrg

2:24 PM

@RolandTaylor it crashed. :(

Roland Taylor

D:

I have hangouts with extras installed, host it again

jrg

Ok.

I'll host it to the "team" circle. Since that way we keep the creeps out. ;)

Roland Taylor

cool :D

jrg

OK.... here goes.

Roland Taylor

eats invisible popcorn

jrg

2:30 PM

Invited you.

Roland Taylor

hmmm Google's dissing of Firefox is getting on my nerves

nitstorm

@RolandTaylor Lol :P

hey guys. Me checking in :)

jrg

has it occurred to you that Firefox is just a a not-so-superior browser?

Roland Taylor

I have my camera off for a sec

@jrg actually - it's just Google putting up fake warnings all the time that's the problem

jrg

@RolandTaylor Oh.

Roland Taylor

2:32 PM

like on one G+ game "works in Google Chrome and Firefox. Best results in Chrome"

I mean seriously?!

it's just a Canvas based game - and Firefox has better performance in that regard!

And with uploading photos, you can only drag and drop to upload in Chrome

in Firefox (which supports the feature), it makes you click a button in the center of the screen!

jrg

@RolandTaylor i have yet to have drag-and-drop uploading work for any site in Firefox, including the one I wrote.

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Q: Mouse (in VirtualBox) scrolls horizontally

(the context of this question is within virtualbox, but AFAIK it shouldn't really be different) I have a Microsoft 5-button mouse plugged in, to which scrolling scrolls horizontally. Any ideas? xinput list: ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] ⎜ ↳ Virtual...

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dupe!

Roland Taylor

@jrg it works fine for me

I've used it on at least 3 sites now

jrg

@RolandTaylor Odd.

Roland Taylor

(though I have not tried it on my own as yet)

jrg

Maybe drag and drop from shutter to Firefox hates me.

Roland Taylor

2:38 PM

I've never tried dragging from shutter, only from Nautilus :P

maybe shutter is being dumb :D

nitstorm

brb.. trying to install the gtalk plugin in chromium...

Roland Taylor

cool

(chrome sucks!)

:D

jrg

@nitstorm good luck.

htorque

need help! i wrote some text into this chat's text field, but didn't send it right away. it somehow got saved (like posts on the main site) and i can't seem to get rid of it. everytime i join i see that text in the text field. :-o

Roland Taylor

Hey :D

@htorque did you clear the browser's cache?

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Q: Can't update ubuntu (apt-get update)

Here is the end of the output from "sudo apt-get update"; Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-backports/multiverse Packages Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-backports/main Sources Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-backports/restricted Sources Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-...

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Can you answer this? Xine always starts muted http://askubuntu.com/questions/35945/xine-always-starts-muted #pulseaudio

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htorque

wouldn't help - i'm also seeing it on a second system. :P

Octavian Damiean

Give me a second.

htorque

no, wait. on the second system it's a different text. clearing cache now.

Octavian Damiean

Aw crap it would have been the wrong thing I had in mind anyway.

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Q: Manual Draft Save - Save a draft on demand

Screenshot About This small script adds a save button to the editor bar that allows you to instantly save the contents of the editor as a draft. Although this happens automatically every minute or so, now you can force it to save the contents whenever you want. ...and now you can also ...