c# question:

public event Action OnCompleteOpenEvent;

getting the error just a sec

don't call events like that

warning CS0067: The event `AbstractMenu<T>.OnCompleteOpenEvent' is never used

but

	protected virtual void OnCompleteOpen()
	{
		IsOpened = true;
		IgnoreInputs = false;

		if(OnCompleteOpenEvent != null)
			OnCompleteOpenEvent();
	}

event handlers should be called like that

public event Action OpenEventCompleted;

SomeObject.OpenEventCompleted = someObject_OnOpenEventCompleted;

or something like that

well, this is someone else's code

so I'm more annoyed by the warning than the naming :)

got it :D

does the warning persist after a build?

anyway, I haven't found anything to remove this error beyond the #pragma suppress

well, this is Unity

is the same event defined in a base class?

so every time I change a file and go back to unity, i get the warning

Do you really need to check if event is null before calling it? I remembered that events were special in this maner.

I guess not, otherwise you would have noticed

and the warning would have said so

this is a

public abstract class AbstractMenu<T> : ManagerSingleton<T>, IMenu where T : AbstractMenu<T> {

@Lasse yes

I remembered wrong then

unless you initialize the event with an empty lambda

looks like this OnCompleteOpenEvent thing is only defined in this class, AbstractMenu

public event EventHandler NewEvent = delegate { };

not in the base classes

this ensures the event is never null

so you don't have to check it

@Almo yeah, and a subclass can't directly access a parent's events anyway

you have to wrap them in methods

I wonder if it's more efficient to check if it's null or add empty delegate on it

@Almo restart Unity, do a clean build, w/e? :D

But that's just premature optimization to think about that

:D

@Lasse I sorta always check for nulls

got used to it

I guess I'll just put up with the warning

They annoy me because in my own code, I set warning = error

omnipsyence.bandcamp.com/album/dark-star-falling

my iPhone games compile with zero warnings :)

My bad habit is that I don't check before I got an exception. Should check for them anyway.

:)

@Almo I can't compile without warnings

Of course I check if it's obvious to check for null

that way when I do get a warning, the number of warnings goes from 0 to 1, not 155 to 156 and say hey! a new warning

the Orthello library for Unity has its own

fucking great

my code doesn't though

ok well thanks for looking at the thing

Me not being native english speaker fails me again, what is the concept of a world? If I have several different maps separate from each other, are they considered to be different worlds?

@Lasse they could just be different regions

But you can travel from region to region just by walking, you can't walk between these maps

@Lasse a world should be substantially different from the others

I'm just thinking how I should name my classes

like, this world is Earth-like

the other is Mars-like, with all sorts of aliens on it

Basically, this is where naming classes like real world objects breaks down

Okay, but two worlds can be similar, like have similar plants and animals, but they just have no physical connection to each other, right?

And you just have to use something that sorta fits and add a comment with what you mean

hello

Yeah, I guess I'm going to call these things worlds

Lo @joapet99

lo?

lo is like yo

oh

It's hello without the hell

no, it's without the hel

@Lasse phonetically

comment on using empty delegates for events vs null checking

so it depends on the usage then

yeah seems so

both are ridiculous silly solutions

use an atomic pointer

god damnit I was just so proud of myself for not being a douche

we're talking about C#

We should stop talking about C# and start talking about C++, it's ++ so it's obviously better!

I'll use the empty delegate approach for a few weeks and see what downsides/upsides I come upon

But C++ users can not C#

(see sharp, got it? heh? hehheh? no?)

speaking of C++, this was a nice read: herbsutter.com/elements-of-modern-c-style

I especially like the range for

and std::begin() and std::end() that also work on arrays

I just made a Vector3i because I didn't feel like using tuples for creating keys for my dictionary

I wonder if this is the right call

If there's a good hasher what could go wrong :P

oh well I could also use just plain int for the keys

oh, wait, no

I don't know what the max values are

better just post the pic in the tweet

What

@AlexM. what the hell is this

That looks like it would derail the train.

no shit

@GnomeSlice It looks like it wouldn't even slow the train down.

Depends on how big the train is I guess.

yeah the wheel would just cut thru it, the train has so much weight

What are they trying to measure, I wonder?

@GnomeSlice that's a fire truck

It's most likely a water hose =p

I think that's just car tire protection for the hose

Why don't they just park the truck on the other side of the rails?

Even "just" the small 612 ones we have driving around here everywhere already weight more than 100t per wagon.

@GnomeSlice cause it's a fire truck, they need to be on that side of the rails, maybe to fight a fire?

Someone from belgium chimes in!

And a wild @JoshPetrie appears

lol the railroad pic now got cross-posted twice

quick, everyone, post it in other places too

I posted it to ask someone from belgium about it =p

work day over, going to head home

yay

@AlexM. done

I just calculated that currently one single world can take up to 1536 terabytes of space if it's completly filled with blocks, and then there can be several worlds.

I think that can count as infinite

There can be 4*4*4 billion chunks filled with 32x32x32 blocks in one world

Should be enough for this

I don't think "infinite" means what you think it means. ;)

@Almo it's infinite, it just loops

Which may or may not be how the universe is infinite, so what the hell why not!

bah, boss threatened my job

too distracted

sup nerds

Hello shotgun

yo

anyone know what the"upgrade discount" is for verizon after 2 years into your contract

lol

@erebel55 completely dependent on your region

That much I know

ahh okay

@Lasse Depends. How fast can a player explore, in terms of chunks per second?

Not fast, one block is intended to be one meter, like in minecraft

And there are 32x32x32 blocks in one chunk

Estimate, please.

Default Minecraft flying (creative mode) speed is 10.8m/s which translates to about 1 chunk/s when flying diagonally.

Well, I think it would be something like 1 meter per second at max, which is about 1.5 chunks per minute

Horses are faster, but limited by terrain.

But yeah I haven't counted flying

You know, 1m/s could be rather slow unless you're playing a rodent ...

lol yeah

well, let's say 3-4 blocks per second then

But anyway, I think you get the idea

So ... a slow jog, about 1 chunk every 2 seconds.

That means you need about 158456325028528675187087900672 seconds to explore everything, give or take a few.

How's that 1 chunk every 2 seconds

Ah, right, you used the minecraft speed

Assuming a constant mean solar year of about 365.24219647 days, it's 5021285221452738448991 years of playtime.

Sorry, 5021285221452738448992, I rounded that wrong.

Not bad eh

I'd say that's infinite

@MartinSojka or, about 3.6*10^11 times the age of the universe

Yep.

363913989089 times, says my calculator.

I asked wolfram alpha

That's practically infinite, as far as the human perspective goes. I can certainly say I won't be playing it for quite as long.

Sorry, the game just isn't that good. ;)

damn, I was hoping you would play it 363913989089 times the age of universe amount of time

That would actually take so much time that by then we should have home computers that are capable of storing the whole world

Since that would take up 1536 terabytes

Since I aborted the jam timeline anyways, I guess I should do a decent javascript port before I go any further

@Lasse Yeah, but that's only for one snapshot of the world. What about world video?

Or streaming worlds?

My engine also supports several worlds apart from each other already

count that in

well, no moderator response to my question

I'll go ahead and post the project highlight in a couple of hours

no

I pasted the permalink to the message so that you could follow it :(

anyway, what we want to do is make this meta post where everyone posts stuff about their projects and regularly update it; then, at the end of the year, we give an award to the most popular project

aight

I guess one defining picture per post with extra links to pictures is fine

it's not necessary but embedding pictures is not necessary either tbh

links work just fine

I'll just avoid adding the rule for now and see what happens

@Pip I have added some notes on strategy to my entry, and the "AI" does not cheat!

I don't really want to say how dumb the AI is, but... needless to say, I did the simplest thing I could do in the time allowed: Gratuitous use of Math.random()

so uh

when's the gamejam ending?

I suck at clocks

it ends when someone does this

old

already discussed

damnit almo

YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRYING

:P

Math.random() AI can be quite fun. What I like to do for the quick & dirty is: Make a function to estimate how good the current situation is. Chose a bunch (five or so) actions with Math.random(). Pick the one which results in the best result. Repeat until defeated by the player.

I think it ended 3 hours ago

@JoshPetrie can you close it in that case?

Just wanted to make sure anyone who didn't see it, saw it.

yup

Sounds good

Romania's biggest code & algorithm challenge website is starting to add content in English

switching to English will gain them some extra popularity but will sorta alienate the project from Romania

No

@JoshPetrie nope, voting will go on

> Read a few lines down of the matrix and start constructing the rows of the transposed matrix left to right in memory. When the memory fills, dump them to disk in a preallocated file by seeking to the beginning of each row if it's binary, or by writing each row to an individual file then cat-ing them together if it's text. You'll only have sqrt(100G) * 100 = 31600000 seeks to do then if it's binary.

"Flip the initial bit indicating it's a column-first matrix to a row-first matrix" doesn't count as a solution, I guess?

that's the effect of Google approving anything until someone makes a complaint

any app is guaranteed to be published by them in less than 2 hours

BTW, the matrix has 160k rows and columns, so you can exploit how the file system stores it: First transpose blocks of the matrix in strips which correspond to the physical block size on disk in place (for 4k block size ext2, that would be 1024x1024 blocks, 4MB in memory each), then rearrange the file metadata so that the matrix file itself is correctly transposed.

you should go work for google

Nah, I'm fine working for the TV stations right now. :)

@AlexM. Well, it doesn't do any harm, at least.

I think lying to customers is harm enough

No, that's marketing.

that one was not a lie

@MartinSojka you seem more intelligent than that imo

people are stupid enough to be exploited, i don't think it is google's job to protect them

sigh

@AlexM. No, really. Claiming something has features it doesn't just so people (well, fools) part with their money is marketing. Fraudulent marketing, obviously. It's still common practice and will continue as such.

I'm not even going to discuss this further

i'm not saying that what the developer is doing is right. I'm just saying google shouldn't constrain it

imo

disagree

makes people npot truyst buying things on google store which hurts us honest devs

@AlexM. Damn lot of code just to change an icon on tap

@Lasse lol

just go use the SDK to generate an EMPTY project using a tab view

and bask in the glory of those hundreds of lines of code

that's pretty much android tbh

Yeah, well, I have no idea since I've not made apps for android without any library

I still can't believe starting a Yes/No dialogue and listening to it for the user's choice is so complicated and takes a shitload of code

And the only one I've made was with libgdx and I never got it to run on my android virtual

welcome to Java

even our lambda functions have it

DialogInterface.OnClickListener dialogClickListener = new DialogInterface.OnClickListener() {
			    @Override
			    public void onClick(DialogInterface dialog, int which) {
			        switch (which) {
			        case DialogInterface.BUTTON_POSITIVE:
			            ai.receiveAnswer(question, type, "Yes");
			            break;

			        case DialogInterface.BUTTON_NEGATIVE:
			        	ai.receiveAnswer(question, type, "No");
			            break;
			        }
			    }
			};
			AlertDialog.Builder builder = new AlertDialog.Builder(this);

that's a Yes/No dialogue

again, boilerplate

C# could roll that down to like 6 lines.

actually, it's less

because tying in lambdas as responses to buttons instead of implementing interfaces with anonymous classes

makes it super fucking sexy

@AlexM. Your java'ing?!?!?

coughs

if (MessageBox.Show(params here, which instruct it to be a Yes/No dialogue) == DialogResult.Yes) { //do stuff if yes } else { //do stuff if no }

that's C# .NET

@Grey I don't have a better option on Android

oh yeah, right

lol

if it works, it works

haha, Pascal code I wrote 5+ years ago

var numowowowo,x,y,z,b,a,c,n,t,i:longint;
    u,q:text;
    iepuri:array[0..100000] of longint;
begin
//WoooOOOOoooOOOooo!
assign (u,'iepuri.in'); reset(u);
assign (q,'iepuri.out'); rewrite(q);
readln(u,t);
for numowowowo:=1 to t do begin
  read(u,iepuri[0]); read(u,iepuri[1]); read(u,iepuri[2]); read(u,a); read(u,b); read(u,c); read(u,n); readln(u);
      for i:=1 to n-2 do begin
      iepuri[3]:=(c*iepuri[0]) + (b*iepuri[1]) + (a*iepuri[2]);
      iepuri[3]:=iepuri[3] mod 666013;
      iepuri[0]:=iepuri[1];

The best part of it is this line:

//WoooOOOOoooOOOooo!

@AlexM. Xamarin? :P

@William'MindWorX'Mariager yeah I'll surely pay money for that :P

@Lasse lol yeah

@AlexM. Got a free version? :P

the free version has limits I could not live with

limits on resources, limits on apk size, limits on libs you can use

also limits on source code size (lol)

Really?

That's not very clear from the overview :P

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P

just google for more

I'm building a virtual assistant that's part of a much larger ecosystem

having limits is just not a good way to go

I'd rather develop everything in assembly if I have to, instead of paying $300 or whatever to Xamarin

^ hypothetical case

Java is not that bad for me here

99% of the time I deal with code written by me which is just as clean as the C# I write

Am I the only one who can't get acces to this website: opengl.org/sdk/docs/man/docbook4/xhtml/glGetProgramInfoLog.xml

Or has it really been down for several days already?

doesn't load for me either

I wonder if anyone who's responsible for that website knows that

Any mirrors around?

Well, I could google it

lol "opengl documentation mirror" produces tutorials to create mirrors

I don't want that this time >:(

nope

maybe google cache has something

Today's Listening is brand new.

any guy working on unity?

anyone have any performance numbers they could share for the different admob ad networks?

it's alive

ALL THE UPBOATS

copies For Sparta! over

I want some suggestions in this

answers.unity3d.com/questions/682174/…

@JohnMcDonald are you going to work on it further? :O

guise

gnooms

@AlexM. Heh, not likely. Might add some balancing and some niceties, but no significant work

the things is more intended for stuff you're working on :(

I don't want an other Like Clockwork that will suck all of my energy away from Asteroid Outpost

@AlexM. Then say so

asteroid outpost is a good example of something you could post

Sadly, this post sounds a lot like a smaller version of TIGSource's dev forum, but... I guess that's ok

I should really get on TIGsource and starting learning up on some shit

Give me IndieDB or give me death

There is an insane amount of traffic in the TIG dev forum

forums.tigsource.com/index.php?action=profile;u=57120

forums.tigsource.com/…

I was a little demotivated by TIG, just because everyone seems to be all about the flashiness of a project, and because of the low engagement I was getting, ;(

like a 3% engagement, ish

Same with my project. Incredible amount of circle jerk, "who you know" and the amount of flashiness in your project.