Game Development

Code Assassin

5:00 PM

Setting up livestream...

twitch.tv/grestranger

Code Assassin

5:17 PM

yay first map done

John McDonald

:( Today is the first 30C+ day this year, and it'll get to 35C (95F)

too hot

Code Assassin

:<

John McDonald

At least it'll be a high of 21C (70F) tomorrow

ClassicThunder

@CodeAssassin What are you working on?

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder Shmup for some friends.

ClassicThunder

5:31 PM

Shmup?

Code Assassin

Shoot-em-up

ToddersLegrande

Shoot em up

Ninjad

Code Assassin

inb4 ToddersLegrande

(dammit got ninja'd before I could finish my inb4)

@ClassicThunder Eet es XNA

right now I'm looking for something to load my Maps from Tiled into my game.

Shouldn't be hard.

ClassicThunder

tiledlib

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder Does it have good documentation?

ClassicThunder

5:35 PM

kinda

its really simple though

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder Okay then - should be a breeze.

ClassicThunder

actually are you familiar with extending the content pipeline?

ToddersLegrande

Here's one with like no documentation! nerdculture.org/2009/07/14/…

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder No - but all I need is the lib.

and I just generated it

@ToddersLegrande That was something for the early version of tiled :P so it probably had little to no documentation.

Byte56

@JohnMcDonald Do they make ~~houses~~ igloos with AC in Canada?

ToddersLegrande

5:39 PM

Following links takes you here.... which was updated 3 months ago

github.com/zachmu/tiled-xna

@JohnMcDonald do you guys even have electricity up there?

John McDonald

@Byte56 It's not in every house

:p

ToddersLegrande

Guys. The help link is in the bottom right corner

I got your back

John McDonald

@ToddersLegrande This is easier

Byte56

Sorry for all the notifications. I wish it wouldn't send those every time I edited.

ToddersLegrande

@Byte56 Don't worry about it.

Byte56

5:42 PM

Yeah, like that.

Hmm, I haven't temp banned anyone yet.

@ToddersLegrande Think I should try it, on you, now?

ToddersLegrande

lol

I'd respond but I'm afraid

Byte56

MUHAHAHAHA

ClassicThunder

Uh oh, the power has gone to his head.

We better all run for cover!

ToddersLegrande

Code Assassin

@Byte56 nooo maceeee winnduuu nooooooooooo

ninja'd(just a little)

5:46 PM

Talking to Americans: National Igloo

(You only really need to watch the first minute)

Alex M.

this is so chill it will turn you into an ice cube

►

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder How do I add a Content Reference that is missing

it doesn't seem to display....

@AlexM. YUS. The Isley Brotherssssssss :D

@AlexM. I think.... Amy Winehouse does a version of that. I'm not sure.

Alex M.

never liked her

Code Assassin

5:49 PM

@AlexM. :<

ToddersLegrande

@JohnMcDonald I can't stop watching, to be honest.

ClassicThunder

@AlexM. If you want chill check out Backmill or CMA or Eddie

If your into electronic music at all

ToddersLegrande

Congratulations Canada for finishing the chunnel to China!

ClassicThunder

chunnel?

tunnel?

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder Blackmill has some good tunes. I was listening to them on Pandora the other day.

John McDonald

5:50 PM

Channel Tunnel

The Channel Tunnel (; also referred to as the Chunnel) is a undersea rail tunnel linking Folkestone, Kent, in the United Kingdom with Coquelles, Pas-de-Calais, near Calais in northern France beneath the English Channel at the Strait of Dover. At its lowest point, it is deep. At , the Channel Tunnel possesses the longest undersea portion of any tunnel in the world, although the Seikan Tunnel in Japan is both longer overall at and deeper at below sea level. The tunnel carries high-speed Eurostar passenger trains, Eurotunnel Shuttle roll-on/roll-off vehicle transport—the largest in the ...

Byte56

You guys really should move to the 24 hour clock.

ToddersLegrande

@Byte56 I was just going to mention that one xD

This is fantastic

John McDonald

I love the kid @5:12

Byte56

Nice

ToddersLegrande

I like the guy at 4:45

Alex M.

5:52 PM

@ClassicThunder I'll give em a try

ToddersLegrande

Good kid

ClassicThunder

Argh what is that dj room site called where you can ather people together and 5 or so people take turns playing songs that

There are 2 of them that are really good

Code Assassin

Does anyone know how to add an existing content project to an XNA Project - I've done it before I just can't remember the steps :<

Byte56

Man, how long does it take for a video to process? gamedev.stackexchange.com/a/58474/7191

ClassicThunder

Right click solution -> add peoject -> add existing -> project find your project

Alex M.

5:55 PM

Add a new project to the solution

and then either:

1) check your XNA's main project's properties - there might be something like "content project"

ToddersLegrande

That movie ends with a doozy

Alex M.

2) add a reference in your main XNA project to the content project - go to step 1)

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder I think I've done that step

Almo

Deusey. Short for Deusenberg, a car well-regarded in its time. "Look at that car go! It must be a Deusey!"

ClassicThunder

Oh god the sc2 answers on the arqade SE are terrible

Almo

5:57 PM

the name of arQAde is terrible

ClassicThunder

@CodeAssassin And it didnt add it?

ToddersLegrande

@Almo I had no idea

Almo

what was wrong with gaming.stackexchange.com

:)

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder It did but it needs to show up under the Content Reference folder. When I opened the project it had some sort of hazard symbol by it.

ClassicThunder

They wanted the letter QA in there somewhere I guess

Almo

5:58 PM

yeah >:(

ToddersLegrande

@Almo that being said, doozy seems to acceptable slang for the dictionary

ClassicThunder

@CodeAssassin IDK I would create a new one and copy the stuff over at this point

Almo

I'm sure

ClassicThunder

probably easiest

Almo

I was just mentioning its origin as a point of interest. :)

ToddersLegrande

5:59 PM

Definitely interesting :)

Almo

yup :)

ToddersLegrande

I appreciate good useless trivia

Almo

hahha me too man :)

Like where the word Trivia comes from? It was stuff posted at the intersection of three roads in Rome, or "Tri via"

2

I wonder how much programming knowledge I could stuff in the part of my brain that remembers all this stuff

Alex M.

I finally managed to buy and try some white tea

Code Assassin

@ClassicThunder It seems to be the only option

Almo

6:03 PM

Don't click the history on that ^^

Alex M.

steepster.com/teas/steeps-the-urban-teahouse/18509-silver-cloud

"I’ve been employeed at Steeps/Oolong tea houses in Calgary for over 4 years. The Silver Cloud that we sell comes from a distributer over seas in Germany. "

I bought it from Demmers Teehaus which has its HQ in Austria, and failed to see the "Silver Cloud" anywhere else

might be the same distributor

user4704

@Byte56 Nice zoom.

user4704

I was thinking of doing that, then I realized I was too lazy.

Byte56

Enhance!

user4704

I really wish we had better star moderation. :| I'm going to dig through MSO.

Byte56

6:12 PM

Don't be silly, you're a star moderator. Doing really well.

Maybe even a super star moderator.

ToddersLegrande

@JoshPetrie its been a little better since you've done cleanup. :|

user4704

Dumb thing stills get starred, though, and I can't figure out who did it. I also can't mass-cancel them (from the star log).

Byte56

Yeah, it's been abused lately.

Almo

we should go star stupid things in C++ Lounge and see what happens.

ToddersLegrande

See how they handle it?

Or just for funzies? :P

Almo

6:15 PM

yeah, that's it. that's what I meant.

Byte56

We had this discussion before.

Almo

I think that other C++ discussion was a little different

that was a coordinated posting of Obj-C questions.

Byte56

Jun 26 at 13:53, by Almo

hey maybe we could go do that to the C++ guys. they're really uptight

Almo

Whoever said that must have had experience with the C++ room.

Byte56

by Almo

Almo

6:18 PM

I've had experience with the C++ room, yeah.

Alex M.

I think that was the point lol

Almo

There's a reason I'm here and the iOS/cocos2d room

though the iOS room is odd with it being half Hindi

Alex M.

ikr, I bet the Android room is half Pa...

whoops, almost did it again

user4704

room topic changed to Game Development: Game development discussion and other things. Please don't star trivial messages. [game-design] [game-industry]

Alex M.

starring trivial messages was one of the attractive things here

ToddersLegrande

6:21 PM

Can I star that notice?

I approve of this campaign for less starring. It would be nice if something stayed on the screen for more than a day

user4704

@AlexM. Why? It's annoying, it floods the right pane with useless context-free junk.

Alex M.

it's natural

ToddersLegrande

Fail Fast has 6 stars, is last on the list, and its only been 4 days

Alex M.

if the users here like starring trivial messages, that means a place with starred trivial messages is their natural habitat

user4704

The zeitgeist on MSO seems to be that better posts will be higher-starred than junk.

user4704

6:23 PM

But we don't have the volume to make that happen.

user4704

So instead we get the junk.

Almo

true, Josh

Alex M.

I like this junk

John McDonald

rly?

Why?

Alex M.

people just need to relax

Almo

6:24 PM

Todders: just finished playing through your links. Recommendations to follow at some point.

ToddersLegrande

@Almo Thanks :)

Almo

Main thing I've noticed: they all have backbeats. So I'll start there. :)

user4704

Relaxing is one thing, but making the community look like juvenile is another. I think filling the star panel with useless messages results in a juvenile-looking community, and I think that is a detriment to the site as a whole.

ToddersLegrande

Whatever you say :P

user4704

Particularly to attracting more experienced game developers to it.

Almo

6:25 PM

hahah :) (replying to Todders)

user4704

I suppose I'll make a meta post about this later. I'm off to work now.

Almo

@JoshPetrie Well, I've been developing games for 30 years, and the looseness of the channel attracted me

Alex M.

@JoshPetrie well, we certainly won't ever get a circle of Carmacks in here, no matter the quality of the rightpanel messages

a public chatroom is bound to attract inexperienced people first of all

ToddersLegrande

@Almo I don't know that the looseness of the room has to go away. It's the fact that stars are treated like Reddit's karma system that's the problem.

Byte56

Save it for the meta post, Josh is off to work.

ToddersLegrande

6:26 PM

People just use it like a +1 button every time they like something

Almo

I have to agree with that Todders

John McDonald

++

Almo

We can fix it. We have the powa

TheProgramm3r

@ShotgunNinja everyone loves calling me Pip :P

@AlexM. nice hat!

Byte56

@TheProgramm3r Awh, I thought I started calling you Pip

Alex M.

6:30 PM

yup, and @Blue said he'll improve it

just wait until then

Byte56

Now we have to call you TP.

Alex M.

I'll stick to Pip, for the reason mentioned by ShotgunNinja

TheProgramm3r

still call me Pip :P

@AlexM. LOL

@Blue Im not @PythonInProgress anymore :D

@AlexM. from the English Language and Usage forums:

-picture too old to be shown-

Alex M.

OLD

TheProgramm3r

:P

Alex M.

6:33 PM

bring something fresh to the table

►

TheProgramm3r

@AlexM.

Alex M.

you should avoid @-ing to a message that's directly above yours

TheProgramm3r

ah

Alex M.

it's like quoting the post above you in a forum

TheProgramm3r

i have a new one for u

Alex M.

6:44 PM

pointless

TheProgramm3r

-redacted-

Alex M.

I think it uses the meme wrong

TheProgramm3r

:P

Alex M.

I hope for your 13yo dignity, that you did not make it

TheProgramm3r

i made the image

not the caption

Alex M.

6:45 PM

you really suck at this :(

TheProgramm3r

:P

Almo

they're both fictional characters? I don't get it

ToddersLegrande

implying "your mom" isn't real

TheProgramm3r

wow

Almo

:/

ToddersLegrande

6:47 PM

which.... yeah lol

Alex M.

13yo humor

TheProgramm3r

im done..... gb

Almo

i've never seen that image. how is its meme supposed to function?

I'm fascinated by those things, for some reason

like Lame-Pun Coon. I like him.

I submitted ten puns to a pun contest hoping one would win. But no pun in ten did.

Alex M.

it's not a very popular meme

TheProgramm3r

that was so insulting

Alex M.

6:50 PM

but I think it's meant to make fun of gay people

ToddersLegrande

@Almo oh you

TheProgramm3r

LOL

Almo

it's still in the history. I don't recommend posting things you shouldn't because you're about to edit them.

TheProgramm3r

kk

a change of topic:

Almo

and "ok" is faster to type than "ok" because you can use two fingers to do it. Go ahead and say kk if you want, but you're not saving any time. :)

TheProgramm3r

6:51 PM

does anyone know who upvoted my question today?

@Almo and "ok" is faster to type than "ok" :P

Almo

up cursor edit mistake

TheProgramm3r

you messed up on the post....

ok is faster to type than ok :P

Almo

oops

TheProgramm3r

:P

Almo

dang it

I'll quit while I

'm ahead

but ok is still faster than kk

:)

TheProgramm3r

6:54 PM

i got 42 rep from one question :D

8 upvotes and 2 rep from accepting an answer

Alex M.

kk\

ok

TheProgramm3r

and 63 from an answer :D

Alex M.

ok is also less typo prone

ToddersLegrande

@Almo kk if you say so

Almo

I do say so. I'm a gameplay programmer and it's my job to understand interfacing. :D

TheProgramm3r

6:55 PM

o k

Almo

you guys can slow yourselves down if you want

I don't mind

ToddersLegrande

If I cared about not being fast enough I'd try to learn VIM

:P

gotta go fast

Zoom zoom zoom!

hey Code!

6:56 PM

silly

@TheProgramm3r Hi

everyone knows good programmers finish last

TheProgramm3r

whats up? get my email?

Code Assassin

@TheProgramm3r I'm pretty sure I did and responded to it.

TheProgramm3r

6:57 PM

ahh

ToddersLegrande

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

TheProgramm3r

ill check

@CodeAssassin "The Doctor"

really?

ToddersLegrande

@TheProgramm3r you sure make fun of people a lot for not being able to handle any criticism

Sorry for pointing out the obvious

Code Assassin

@TheProgramm3r Is there a problem with that!?

ToddersLegrande

Do unto others as you would want others to do unto you

Code Assassin

6:59 PM

Alex M.

@TheProgramm3r isn't the champ when it comes to taking criticism either

TheProgramm3r

@CodeAssassin nope

@AlexM. thats what he said :P

ToddersLegrande

@AlexM. that was the point... I guess I could see how it would be interpreted differently

Alex M.

for a moment there I thought pip also screwed "that's what she said" up too

ToddersLegrande

lol

TheProgramm3r

7:00 PM

im going to go work on my game, got some mo' classes to write

ToddersLegrande

@TheProgramm3r good luck!

TheProgramm3r

cya CodeAssassin

ToddersLegrande

Screen shots :P

TheProgramm3r

Cya Todders

sure todders, one sec

Code Assassin

@TheProgramm3r okay gb

imgur is slow. use snaggy for screenshots if you gotta go fast

TheProgramm3r

7:01 PM

i dont :P

theres my player and monster classes

John McDonald

@CodeAssassin How is snaggy faster than imgur?

TheProgramm3r

subclasses of "Entity"

Alex M.

any normal programmer would write something like

if monster.isKilled() then show a nice message;

Code Assassin

@JohnMcDonald Snaggy is fast because gotta go fast.

TheProgramm3r

@AlexM. it will eventually

Alex M.

7:03 PM

that does not work with what you have there

TheProgramm3r

true

Code Assassin

@JohnMcDonald It seems to upload images faster.

Almo

vi. yeah man. I use that. (seriously, I do when I edit bash scripts and stuff)

TheProgramm3r

eventually it will! @AlexM.

@CodeAssassin Get On Hangouts!!! :P

Alex M.

not sure I get that but okay

I'd change it now btw

getting near the end and then rewriting the code is so... 13yo

TheProgramm3r

7:04 PM

it is :D

i plan to be constantly changeing/adapting code

it IS a Github project after all

Alex M.

what would the world be like without github

TheProgramm3r

:P

ToddersLegrande

I'm still waiting for paste images to chat

TheProgramm3r

?

ToddersLegrande

@JohnMcDonald I use snaggy because you just go to snag.gy and hit CTRL+V

John McDonald

7:06 PM

@ToddersLegrande You can do the same with imgur

TheProgramm3r

hotkeys ftw!

Alex M.

I still paste in paint because because

ToddersLegrande

imgur I have to click the upload button, paste, click the image, and then I can copy the URL. If you don't click the image you need to append an extension to the end

John McDonald

You don't actually need to do the first step there, but the rest is true

ToddersLegrande

@JohnMcDonald just tried it... seems I can paste on the home page but then I have to open the form and hit upload anyway? Unless I'm missing something

TheProgramm3r

7:09 PM

or you can press upload.... on the right :D

ToddersLegrande

@TheProgramm3r you mean in chat?

TheProgramm3r

yep

ToddersLegrande

That doesn't allow you to paste images in

TheProgramm3r

gotta go, watching Code's stream

ToddersLegrande