Game Development - 2013-06-25 (page 2 of 6)

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3:02 PM

Is OUYA available for normal buying yet?

yes

3:20 PM

I'm starring that fo' sho'.

@Almo stuff the game with ads

Like I want ads when playing a console game in my living room.

@Almo nope, but you can do it on the loading screens or the main menus

at least you will get some revenue

Not worth supporting another console in my opinion.

better off just making a PC or Mac game

or just make an initial version with ads and a paying version without ads

obviously :p

3:23 PM

Why do 1k+ question keep getting bumped by 101 rep users who have no activity within the question?

I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I'll be surprised if anything but an already-established title (like Angry Birds) makes any money on that console.

http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/37515/why-do-most-2d-platformers-start-off-in-the-left-and-progress-in-the-right-direc
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/268/stl-for-games-yea-or-nay
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/4177/how-is-2d-lighting-implemented

Hey @ToddersLegrande - Nice hat.

@ClassicThunder Ugh. More sock puppet stuff I think. They're creating answers and then deleting them it looks like.

ToddersLegrande

@Blue thanks...

Well that was a good ban.

3:30 PM

@Byte56 Was wondering the same thing. Takes a 10k rep user to see that. Thanks

Yeah, this is on the first question you linked: i.imgur.com/amL3aJQ.png

Just copy/pasted from the other answers.

What's odd, is that it takes someone with a decent amount of knowledge about how the site works to keep pulling stuff like this

ToddersLegrande

@LucasKauffman @Caleb @tombull89 was 90 minutes really necessary for quoting a song somebody else posted thats all about how we need to chill over being politically correct? While the content may have contained stereotypes, do we really think it was offensive?

@ToddersLegrande I didn't flag it

it was not clear you were quoting a song

I did not flag it either

ToddersLegrande

3:33 PM

I want to know what was offensive about it that warranted 90 minutes

Jew is a politically correct term....

as is "white"

saying they have all the money is not

hahaha

@ToddersLegrande Nor I. Nor did I validate. But if you get flagged for more than one something the automatic timeout time goes up.

ojbective-c and overriding setters fun

ToddersLegrande

"For more than one something" ?

Like more than one comment?

Or the same comment more than once?

3:35 PM

@ToddersLegrande The former I believe.

ToddersLegrande

I'd like to know the second comment then....

I'm sure I could get flagged for quoting NIN lyrics. :)

ToddersLegrande

@Almo its not really the fact that it was lyrics

@ToddersLegrande In any case see my lecture above about throwing jokes that include race into the middle of an ongoing dispute over a racial slur. That's just not the time to do that. And you know it's not a matter of the term being PC or not, PC terms can be used wrong too.

Hey. Why here: gamedev.stackexchange.com/a/… it calls the user as user32223? His account was deleted/banned?

3:38 PM

@Jantomedes deleted yes

@ToddersLegrande I was just saying because I thought it was funny. :)

Someone is in the process of farming rep, so there's strange activity.

I think the flagging system has done a wonderful job of interrupting a perfectly normal day of chat and creating drama.

@ManishEarth But why?

no clue

could have requested deletion

could you link?

you gave an incompletel ink

3:40 PM

user image

@ManishEarth gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/57994/…

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A: How do you find games with a similar idea?

I would like to add my own answer, which had elements already propositioned by the other two users here. However, their suggestion isn't the same as mine. As Patrick said, "There is no shortcut to experience" and Byte56 said, "It's a research task." Both are great answers, and both define quite ...

@ClassicThunder I don't think you've been in an unregulated chatroom where bad attitudes destroy it. These chat rooms work because they are heavily moderated.

hey all

hey modeconkey

ToddersLegrande

3:41 PM

@Caleb no I get that. It was clearly an inappropriate time in hindsight....

i cant really find a better place to ask

The other user involved in that question, FallOutDeviant (user32223) was also deleted.

@Jantomedes OK, no clue

so forgive me if this is the wrong place

ToddersLegrande

And when I got the 30 minute ban I was like ok... my mistake

3:41 PM

but i wanna ask a vim related question

@Byte56 same guy

nuts. can't set custom properties on .ccbs included in other .ccbs

@codemonkey shoot

ToddersLegrande

but when it jumped to 90 minutes I got the feeling some people were on a power trip

not the right place

but you can try

:D

I know a little vi

3:42 PM

@Almo I know, I'm sorry

like I edit bash scripts with it. :)

so go ahead :D

is there a quick way to select the word under my cursor, and search for it?

some viw

to select visually the word

must be but I don't know

B if I'm not mistaking

and then / something to find it?

3:42 PM

I know how to change the word under the cursor: cw

@ManishEarth I suppose so huh. There was Harold and FallOutDeviant.

yeah, i know cw

B. obviously. vi is so opaque

@LucasKauffman what does B do?

@Byte56 It could also be a migrated question, but it doesn't look like that

3:43 PM

I like it, but it's a steep learning curve

wait not B

@ManishEarth Nope, I saw it answered here.

kk

ToddersLegrande

Namely, Tom.

@LucasKauffman ok

3:43 PM

let me fire up vim

sure, tyt

thanks for your help

@Byte56 You said something with farming rep?

@codemonkey there isn't a function built in natively like that but what you can do is install this plugin vim.wikia.com/wiki/Search_for_visually_selected_text

Strange behavior yeah. Users answering questions then deleting their answers.

thanks @luca

@LucasKauffman

ps: where would be the appropriate place to ask such a vim related question?

3:46 PM

@Byte56 link?

@Noctrine gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/37515/…

Just check out the active questions.

@codemonkey I think superuser

Lots of high view/vote questions getting answers that are then deleted.

Yeah

@LucasKauffman ok, thanks mate

3:47 PM

They post on high traffic stuff to get some quick upvotes

Then delete, the rep vanishes after awhile

But it gives them enough time to proliferate through the network

Well, looks like someone is cleaning up.

yeah I'd go to superuser

Community is on the case.

@Noctrine we saw one pass on that on chinese.SE earlier

@ToddersLegrande Wasn't me even the first flag and I wasn't watching after that. And I don't think I'm privy to more details of flags to see how that went down, but chances are more than one thing got flagged so the timeout got extended. Right or wrong we can't give the time back or even identify the flager so I'd just let it go and move on, you didn't miss much :)

3:49 PM

@LucasKauffman I noticed some of these users had accounts there.

for whoever likes realistic sniper action, the 2nd sniper elite is part of the latest indie royale bundle, among other goodies

indieroyale.com

@Caleb you can see which messages of his were flagged on his profiles

Oh god

I don't like the starcraftII & diablo3 patch system

1setup 2playable 3optimal

@Noctrine Yes my child?

3:52 PM

@user11177 why not. that's pretty cool.

@Noctrine there's a meta question for it somewhere, let me dig it up

@ManishEarth Why so I can. Learn something new ever day. Well in that case @ToddersLegrande it was only the one message, but six separate people flagged it. In the future I suggest A) not playing with fire B) not throwing gas on fire and C) if not doing either of the above, being more generous with textual clues like formatting with blockquotes and adding attribution.

@Almo just normal download and then PLAY is cleaner and better in my opinion.

@LucasKauffman This one? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/184850/…

ToddersLegrande

@Caleb fair enough. Thanks for looking into that.

3:55 PM

@user11177 if you want that, then wait for optimal to finish. If you're in a hurry, start earlier.

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Q: What's up with this question?

Someone seems to be playing with the Stackexchange Hot Question algorithm: 这是一个专门创建的社区Wiki集学习中国普通话的资源，它已经批准由社区本身 This question seems to be the coordinated work of about a dozen entirely new users (created today) to post a "question" that gets a high "hotness" score. I don't know any Chinese an...

discussion specific-question hot-questions

it does clutter up the interface a bit, but it's only the loader. :)

@ManishEarth showed it earlier

ok, a quick vector question

to get right, is it up X front

or front X up

?

right hand rule

point fingers along first vector

curl fingers to second vector

3:58 PM

@Almo automatically when reading that I extended my fingers xD

thumb points third vector

:D

a friend of mine showed up a breakfast with NO written on his left hand. I asked why. He said "Physics test."

haha

4:13 PM

Wait... Why "NO"?

Am I missing some very clever Physics ref# or is it simply NO - DON'T CHEAT NEWB

LOL @Blue

Same reason that people who are about to have a limb surgically removed write "NOT THIS LEG" on the good limb

He just didn't want to accidentally use his left hand for the right-hand rule

Which... could be considered cheating, but meh

it feels good, when you are not active on the site, and you reputation goes up time to time

Yup, little by little

and mostly it's those answers not well appreciated when you first wrote them :P

4:18 PM

hahahaha

by the way why is the room extra crowded?

do you guys know any dlna server for windows supporting mkv and flv?

Is PS3 Media Server DLNA?

I think so, but I doubt you could run it on windows.

ps3mediaserver.org/about

windows media player is a good enough DLNA server itself, though it doesn't support those formats

I'm looking for some app, which works just like wmplayer, as a service in the background.

4:25 PM

PS3 Media Server runs on Windows

"with versions for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X."

4:36 PM

this looks like it's going to be Amnesia 2's competition

and the most system shock game system shock fans are going to get anytime soon

@AlexM. Oh yeah, I forgot about that

Looks good.

wish I could play them

couldn't take more than 10 mins of amnesia lol

switching the focus on my mainframe->stations a bit

having specialized stations that do their own work independently is a better idea and leads to a more decoupled design

I like in that trailer, how a minute in, without even knowing there's anything bad going on, they're already peaking around corners.

I'll keep the mainframe for services only

e.g. streaming music to stations that request it, so that there's really no need for each station to have its own music db

but to have a station that is an independent web browser for example, it would be silly to keep it communicating with the mainframe for each user input

ToddersLegrande

5:00 PM

Those games need occulus rift support

Now you're talking

@ToddersLegrande yes

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I saw ur evil plan

@Byte56 SHAME ON YOU.

:P

@CodeAssassin I know, that amature using public channels to communicate like that.

5:06 PM

Unfortunately, we still don't have "On Hold"

ToddersLegrande

I was more interested in the "my plans" than the "nobody look"

yes

woa everybody left

Ah man, I'm still chuckling about that one.

Trolls can be so adorable sometimes.

Start game for first time windowed or fullscreen with option to change in preferences?

So, is the goal still "fighting against the high rep users", for the little guy?

I do wonder what you get out of this.

5:14 PM

Troll destroyed

(has no parent user)

So... chaos for the sake of chaos?

@ManishEarth I was questioning the suspect!

@Byte56 Meh. Don't feed the troll

what a loser :(

The more you humor him the more fun he has

ToddersLegrande

@Tetrad or anyone - does a duplicate question just have to have an answer, or does it have to have an answer that is marked as THE answer?

5:17 PM

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It has to have an accepted answer

It's not clear whether that means, an answer with one upvote or an answer that has actually been accepted.

ToddersLegrande

Ah ok.

@ToddersLegrande No thats the wrong way to think if it imo. It should have to be the same question. Sharing an answer is not a duplicate question.

i think upvoted answer

ToddersLegrande

5:19 PM

@ClassicThunder I think thats been the expectation with some exceptions getting through. I was just curious about the linking - it mentioned needing an answer to link a question and I wanted to know if it could be any old answer or if it had to be an accepted answer

But we can no longer mark as duplicate unless that duplicate question has an answer.

Very likely upvoted answer.

Kind of an issue when people ask the same question again because the question they wanted answered doesn't have an answer.

Its definitely an issue when its a new user that asked the question because they couldn't comment on the answers on the other question.

@Byte56 mods can override

5:21 PM

@ManishEarth Well I guess that'll work.

ToddersLegrande

If a user wants a different answer than whats posted based on a set of criteria, is that worthy of a new question / won't get marked as a dupe?

I would say yes as long as thats clear

@ToddersLegrande bounty

or re ask if the criteria are sufficiently different

ToddersLegrande

Bounty would work for the exact same question but wanting more answers

not necessarily

New users can't bounty.

ToddersLegrande

5:23 PM

True....

meh

then re ask and make is different

or edit and pray

I've opened bounties for people who couldn't yet, or wanted updates on a question. Kind of a time consuming work around though.

Hmm. It would have been nice to have no voting on the questionnaire.

I guess we don't have a good way to enforce that on meta.

There need to be a no vote option on meta imo.

If only for the elections.

I guess it doesn't happen often enough to warrant it

Troll alert.

claw/claw/bite, right?

5:36 PM

Yeah, but puff up first to scare them.

the weather's cool now after yesterday's rain

went outside at 3AM, in shorts only. nothing more amazing than a chilly gust of wind after combos of 33+ degs

C?

yeah

Why, in Flooby Nooby, there's no need for puffery.

this was also the first morning in which I did not wake up all sweaty

5:39 PM

33F would be a chilly gust in shorts.

in quite a long time

33F is our weather in early December

33C is our weather, like never. :D

33F (0.5C) is the transition between jacket and longcoat for me

always a nice time of the year

@JohnMcDonald we go up to 40C in hot summer days

33C...

Cairo, Egypt here

sounds like typical summer

ALL summer

17C right now in my town

no wonder it's so awesome <3

the laptop is also more silent

5:42 PM

"Hot" here is like 25C+

maybe I'll go to the seaside in August

it's the only place where those 40C are actually cool for me

though I have to admit I'm mostly attracted by the nice malls in Constanta, not by the beach itself :(

I enjoy drinking cocktails near the beach, but that's about it

ever since I saw a guy dying right next to me after being taken out of the water

I'm not that confident in swimming

At least he made it out of the water?

haha

I thought you were going to say that's when the drinking started.

the only thing that started then was me not wanting to go in the water anymore

actually, I did go for a swim last year, but it was just once in a full week, and lasted 20 mins or so

5:46 PM

I rather like swimming in the ocean.

I thought it would be a waste to go to the seaside (it's pretty far from where I live) and not try the water out at least once

But only with goggles that cover the nose too.

I'd gladly swim each day in an Iron Man suit with swimming addons

Then swimming under the waves and looking up at the sky is fantastic.

I'd gladly do a lot of things in an Iron Man suit.

I was never able to float on my back

everyone seems to be able to do it, except for me

5:47 PM

@Byte56 everyone wants to be TONY STORK

@CodeAssassin Bringing the babies?

TONY STORK lol.

@Byte56 I just want his tech and his iron man suit - that is all.

@Byte56 lol :P

quick question: when writing documents in Word or anything similar, you can organize stuff in chapters and subchapters like this:

1 Title

He can keep the babies!

1.1 Subtitle

1.2 Subtitle ...

anyone know what these are actually called?

5:49 PM

It's called a table of contents

I'm sure I can do it in LibreOffice, but I have no idea what to call the function

And yes, you can do that in Word.

ToddersLegrande

Iron Bird.

@Byte56 let's see

help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Creating_a_Table_of_Contents

found it, thanks!

I used to do it manually

but when exporting to pdf it wouldn't work obviously

Yeah, it should auto update with page numbers and what not.

5:51 PM

I want to be TONY STORK too

user image

Ha, someone made an image for it already.

That looks nothing like a stork.

@Code Assassin every nerd wants to be tony stark

Agreed.

This is a stork.

5:54 PM

is this birdman?

False. That's an image of a stork.

Oh good point :/

(False != True) == Fail

the wizard for the table of contents is so complicated

I'm not even sure what I want anymore

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